So what's the story behind this being a stereotype for bards? Aren't they just people who play music?

So what's the story behind this being a stereotype for bards? Aren't they just people who play music?

Bard often end up being the party's heal sluts, so they tend to go full slut.

Confirming. Playing a bard. Ended up the party healslut.

I don't mind.

High charisma, chicks digs musicians, and the charming trickster angle.

Their main shtick is having a high charisma and convincing people to do things. So, naturally, people assume they're attractive and charming. And charming attractive people tend to have a lot of sex, at least as portrayed by most media. It's a natural progression really.

memes. high charisma means they can roll to seduce anything, and with the "roll a nat 20, break the universe" meme, they can seduce the world because lol epin meme

It's more the sort of person who plays a Bard tends to not always be the dude who wants to be the Bard, but the guy who thinks it's a guarantee of getting laid (plus it's a Charisma class).

Sorcerers and Paladins should pull more tail, honestly, but they tend to be played by people who actually want to blast and smite things instead of "lol I am a music man get on my dick and let me ruffle your anus while I link this Coldplay youtube and say it's what I'm singing during sex."

Yes, I knew someone who did that.

Rock stars.

I wonder what level of faggotry do you have to be to even consider looking up from that.

Anyway, I think it's mostly because instead of all the interesting directions the concept of 'magical musician' could have taken, bards were constantly represented as sort of scoundrels and medieval rockstars who swagger around with lutes and rapiers. So instead of a wandering skald, a knowledgeable sage of a foreign magical tradition or an enigmatic half-mundane enchanter, they're mostly the guy who dumps INT, parties hard and makes tavern wenches pregnant.

>Paladins should pull more tail
But muh chivalry and chasity

This, and they have a strong overlap with players who think Charm Person = Friends for Life and players who can't have an actual conversation beyond "I roll Diplomacy with Majestic Word and smile at the princess and kiss her hand and say 'milady u are so sugoi' I want to lick your tears away."

>chastity
>required of the Designated Hero class

>and chasity
not all paladins, furthermore paladin's dick is also tool of justice and smiting

Frees up the rogue from eternal UMD support duty, frees the cleric of having to spend hours waving CLW wands instead of praying, and frees the wizard from having to devote all his mid- and low-level spells for utility. As far as 3e classes go bard is a pretty useful fifth member. Completely shit on his own, especially after 3.5 turned scrying into a spell, but it eases the pressure from every other party member.

Also a good cum catcher on those long, lonely expeditions. You're the only guy who has the time to pretty up every morning. Unless the party arcanist is a sorcerer. But then you can do each other's hair and share butt shaving tricks.

Half of all the adventures Arthurian knights got themselves into was because they were thinking with the small head.

I don't catch cum, but I do munch our fighter's rug.

But it's worth it because she keeps me safe. I'm too small to defend myself.

>3.5
>crossdressing

Jesus Christ you're a pathetic person.

It's probably caused by shitty artists.

>not giving her the D

What are you, a cuck?

Or a woman.

No, I just don't have a D myself.

Isn't that guy basically a rapist ? Doesn't sound like a "hero".

He saved the world/the pocket universe they're in multiple times through sexual violence.

If he's a rapist, the your regular hero's an assassin.

No he's not, he died for our sims.

Many medieval writings about bards fucking different women by being good a singing exist.

What, specifically, about 3.5 makes it immune to jokes about cross-dressing? I'm genuinely baffled by your ignorance. The setting that has a gender changing belt and often involves a party of all men, together for months upon months and separated from women and society?

It's a shitty meme perpetuated by shitty players who thing "I roll to seduce the monster" is the height of humor.

He's a wizard player and he's jelly about all the chic ballgown parties sorcs and bards have.

What's wrong with being a rapist if it saves the world? Murder saves the world all the time, and murder is worse than rape, isn't it?

Historically bards offered skilled entertainment that doesn't make them look foolish or scary and they typically work in establishments with lots of booze. If you don't see how that can inspire a high CHA class that tends to drop anchor in every port it comes across you need to get out a little more.

Morally reprehensible individual actions don't prevent someone from being labelled a hero.

3.5 is shit and so outdated that the only sort of person who plays it would have to be hardcore into WANTING caster supremacy.

Also a bunch of fat, sweaty neckbeards sitting around a table discussing how their characters become qt traps is absolutely cringey. Just get a fucking camp follower if you're going to pretend to be "devoted to realism". You can easily carry a Halfling woman around in a sack.

>sitting around a table
We have this thing called 'online RPGs'.

it's even worse, those fat fags don't even will ashamed to play qt traps if it's online

They're medieval rock stars.
Rock stars get incredibly slutty groupies that will ride their dicks simply because they're rich and famous not making them all that different from the average woman

This is Japan, the country where cultural marxism never took hold and rape is a form of saying hello.

That depends, as someone unfamiliar with the character, how necessary was the sex to save the world?

Ah, so your autism won't allow you accept the idea that 3.5 players aren't all greasy, fat neckbeard men, even for the premise of a joke. Interdasting...

>murder is worse than rape
Nope.

>playing 3.5
>calling other people autistic

If you're claiming you're not, prove it yo.

Wow great argument fagtron you sure convinced me with those hot opinions

>the cessation of existence entirely is not worse than a short interlude of pain and humiliation and possibly having abortion

Someone's drank the kool-aid.

Healslut is an mmo meme pls dont bring that /v/ tier garbage here.

>assuming I play 3.5 because I made a joke about another person playing 3.5
I don't even know what level of autism is necessary for this. A guy who wasn't even me made a joke about a bard in 3.5 being a party bicycle, and now I'm a greasy fat autistic 3.5 playing scumbag. I don't know who is autisming whom at his point.

you can always kill yourself after rape

You can always kill yourself after failing a class too. Does this mean your ethics teacher is worse than Hitler?

There's a case to be made for forcing them to live with it or take themselves out, rather than outright killing them

That said, I'd still rate murder as outright worse. Maybe if you raped them every night, and didn't let them off themselves, it'd be worse?

Well I'm playing a female Paladin of a goddess of love in Hells Rebel. We're on part one and I can honestly say I have gotten exponentially more tail then the Bard.

Nice

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>Ah, so your autism won't allow you accept the idea that 3.5 players aren't all greasy, fat neckbeard men, even for the premise of a joke. Interdasting...

But all 3.5 players are greasy martial-hating grognards, there is literally no other reason to play 3.5. Where's the joke in what you said? I mean, I can't read minds, but the only explanation is that you're tantruming because you're a sperglord.

>Paladin of a goddess of love
what's are even your paladins duties or job requirements?

By that point it's more or less torturing someone over an extended period for presumably no reason, which is pretty evil. The problem is, ultimately, whether you think motive matters more than outcome or not.

ERPy dyke or cockslut master race?

If that's a female Paladin and male Bard, no shit. He has to put in work because that's how human mating rituals work, you basically just have to open your legs.

> you basically just have to open your legs
not only that, being paladin makes her "higher value" than bard

Keeping swords well-sharpened. Polishing staves.

>triple dubs

Kek confirms.

Kek's approval confirmed!

This. There's a reason why a male Bard, as cringey as he may be, gets a pint hoisted to him at the tavern. A female Bard is basically just a prostitute, if she's played straight.

I guess you could say the healslut meme *puts on glasses* gets around.

YEEEEEAAAAH!

she probably does it for no monetary compensation

>Paladin of a goddess of love in Hells Rebel
Quite literally and not figuratively a battleslut

What if you play a female bard who's a virgin slayer, preying on young boys, chaste paladin and timid clerics? What if she also gets off on reverse NTR? What if she constantly bullies the party healer by groping his butt and telling him she eats innocent little boys like him raw?

Because apparently having a 22 Charisma means you're a braindead man slut.

When did the lore for Gorgons change from "so ugly you turn to stone" to "eye contact turns you to stone"? Isn't a cute Gorgon like a tanned vampire?

,,,that ain't even single dubs, nigga.

Also, nice dubs, Kek blesses the morons.

>female bard who's a virgin slayer, preying on chaste paladin
oh look at the time, it's fap'o-clock

>be artsy
>be charismatic
>get pussy
it's a formula as old as time itself

Then you're putting in work, so it's legit.

>lore for Gorgons change from "so ugly you turn to stone"
But it never was? Perseus could easily look at medusa's face( she's a gorgon) through reflection from a shield

Can you really ignore a medusa's gaze if you're staring at her tits?

>unironically being into straight shota

I thought that worked because the reflection was distorted, thus blocking her full ugliness.

>artsy

No, it's all about being cool, not artsy, that's the mistake every numale makes. Be rich, be alpha, rock hard.

it's not really work if you just bully them into sex, unless you're talking about paladins and wizards that refuse having sex

>4 4
>75 75

Are you blind?

Traditionally this.

I'm not sure if looking at ANY part of her turns you into stone, but Perseus used her head only to turn other into stone. Meanwhile other parts lacked this power after her death, so maybe they never could during life, so yeah it's possible that if you stared at her tits you will survive

Chicks dig wealthy musicians. I've known an ungodly number of scraggly beta males who thought a guitar and a Che shirt could get them laid and were sadly disappointed.

Charisma class. The idea of musicians living the sex drugs and rock and roll lifestyle. No moral restrictions like people often associate with Paladins. Not creepy or dangerous social outcasts like Sorcerer or Warlock.

In Russia, the term bard refers to an unshaven, smelly hiker who spends most of his time in remote tundra in the middle of nowhere, can play the guitar but not much else and sings poignant songs about woods, mountains and canned stew. This is the stereotype that I imagine whenever bards are mentioned, and I can't get it out of my head.

Chicks dig wealthy/powerful everything. You can be some scrawny beta neckbeard but if you somehow manage to become POTUS (that musts be one hell of a PR team backing you up!) you'll slay pussy left and right.

It's not so much about musicians as it is about womankind's parasitic instinct. Women cannot survive on their own, so they look for the mate that most guarantees the survival of themselves and their offspring.

It's just a meme like paladins and succubus and good necromancers

Scauce?

>paladins and succubus and good necromancers
1.paladin is a class
2.succubus is evil
3.necromancer can be good
neither of them are memes

Very

>Being a healslut bard
>Not just spamming shatter and call lighting
It's like you're a little bitch or something.

Why would anyone ever want to cast shatter? Anything worth destroying is magical and thus immune.

>what are editions other than 3.5

Why are you still playing 3.5?

Because the other versions may as well not exist.

I'm sorry about your shit taste.

Funnily enough I said the same thing IRL on my university campus.

Got a few death threats in the process.

Are you high or just trolling? 3.5 has been dead for years, more dead than 4e. It's all Pathfinder or (almost entirely) 5e now.

Don't worry, I'll protect you.

Campuses are progressive indoctrination centers these days, governed by socialists that can't survive outside of a greenhouse environment where they literally can't get fired.

I turned out fine. Hell my professor was with me the entire way ironically (was part of a presentation). Got an A for it regardless.

True, while there are some progressivism there I tend to think of it on the fairly light side at my school. I mean for gods sake the tenured professor who specializes in feminist at my university, who is a female, said the only way to 'save' feminism today was to completely dismantle it and restart from the ground up due to the changes from when it started to the modern society today, otherwise it would self-destruct.

Which is a shame as that was probably the only time I ever wanted to take a feminism class, but I graduated before I could go to any of her classes beyond a simple presentation shortly after her tenure status.

Shelyn is the goddess of art and beauty too, so the paladin's job would be defending love, art, aesthetically pleasing things, and so forth from harm, promoting the creation of wonderful things like the previously mentioned art, beauty, and love, and promoting harmony and avoiding violence where possible. The Shelynite paladin strives to convince the enemy to stand down, and to make peace, before resorting to the blade.

I dunno, I have a lot more things than just healing. It just happens that one of the many things I can do includes healing, moreso than any other party member can.

Thanks for the laugh. And the pic. Been looking for that one.

I think what he meant is that the concept is different enough to be legit.