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I noticed a trend in the Gathering of the Storm books. Each of the two factions that form the focus on the book lose something or have something bad happen to them.
>Imperium ----> Cadia >Eldar -----> Ball-Tan
Assuming the other books follow the same trend, what will happen to the other factions? What are they going to lose for plot progress?
Brandon Green
Chaos. They are going to loose the war and get the shit kicked out of them when Emps gets back up. .
Josiah Fisher
Facing Necrons with decurion thingy 3 flayers and at least 6 Wraith.
Sadly I lack any proper anti air or a way to proxy one in time
Jonathan Allen
THe Deldar may be losing the dark city
Lincoln Jackson
Gonna be legtimately angry if they do this. Sure, the 'Chaos has already won and is infinite and can't lose' new-fluff is insufferable, but to hype them up for so long only to have them easily and casually shitstomped would just be pure, uncensored, buttblasting.
Benjamin Hall
The artist in White Dwarf sort of implied 3 main books...
Gathering Storm I + II + III
As he is working on the third book right now.
I was personally expecting 4 Triuvirate boxes based on the Box art of the Imperium, which looked like it was 1/4 of a Doomsday clock and there would be 3 more, now maybe just 3?
Dylan Gray
No i'm fairly certain that's going to hold since defending that is probably part of the deal the inquisition cut with the homunculae covens to build emps a new body.
Lincoln Scott
Tau lose nothing and some how expand their empire with their new even bigger and stupider not! Titan
Jason Scott
IF IF i wanted to host a 40k/gen/ league on TTS, how many would sign up?
Jason Brooks
Oh they won't loose entirely, they'll just get beaten back and we will go to new status quo.
Henry White
I look forward to their Giga Gargantuan Warlord equivalent
T12 / W32 2+/2++/3+++
Gavin Evans
They already lost Aun'Va and Agrellan. They ain't gonna lose more because that would be unfair to them and their fans.
Nathaniel Nguyen
Am I Castellaning right?
Penitent Engines are gr8 vs Crons. As long as your Saint takes most of the shooting/assaults you'll be ok.
Gabriel Wright
So, I'm actually thinking of going against some normal 40k wisdom and running some mixed loadouts for some units. Let me know if I'm being crazy: I mostly run Word Bearers.
-Chaos Marines: Normally, I run a minimum squad with Bolters, Meltagun, and a Combi-Melta champ. However, I had 4 points leftover. I decided to give the Meltagun Marine in each squad an extra CCW, and replace 2 of the remaining 3 Bolter Marines with Pistol/CCWs. Rationale is I can either fire 2 Bolters or 2 Meltaguns, and one of the guys gets Grenade duty anyway. Meh?
-Termicide: I just run Combi-Plasma and Power Axes. I'm thinking of giving the Champ a Maul so I have something that strikes at Initiative. Meh? (Or maybe a Lance for charging/punking lesser schlubs?)
Havocs: If I were to do an Iron Warrior list, Havocs are a must of course. Normally, they're "4 autocannons". Could 2 Autocannons/2 Missile Launchers work? 10 points more, lose some efficiency versus tanks, but you gain some threat versus MCs/force bikes to Jink.
Luis Nelson
I'd join in if I had time to learn TTS first, still haven't started using it for anything yet.
Chase Sullivan
>wanting to play with the trolls, memers, and waacers that post here in /40kg/
Grayson Brown
...Source? I've never heard this
Ethan Wood
>Lose Aun'Va >Nobody except a few commanders even know he's dead and they seem to give minimal shits >The Ethereal Caste just replaces him with a hologram anyway
I somewhat agree with you, but how they handled Aun'Va's loss was nothing short of insulting. An Etheral dies? Tau get severely disgruntled. Popehat dies? Eh, replace him with a hologram, nobody needs to know.
Carson Thomas
Literally who and what? Honestly anyone really care about the space Tau pope?
Unless they lose farsight or the kroot homeworld they haven't lost anything.
Lincoln Brooks
Orks lose Ghazkull, every planet they've ever conquered, and Gork and Mork.
They get nothing.
Juan Collins
I have 6 Penitent. 4 bss with Immolator and flamers.
Wonder if I could make it work.
My other liat
Nathaniel Long
thats not fair.
they get nobz with free 6+ fnp.
Juan Adams
He making stuff up. A radical group of the Admech travelled through their captured webway portal and arrived beneath the Dark City. There they struck a deal with an unknown party. Possibly "The Prophets of Flesh" since their stronghold hands on the underbelly on the Dark City.
Other than that, there isn't much known.
Source is the Admech codex timeline.
Jose Jackson
Whatever could you mean :^)
Brandon Anderson
hangs*
Zachary Russell
>>Nobody except a few commanders even know he's dead and they seem to give minimal shits
Shadowsun and Aun'shi know that he was a huge cunt. He was really abusive towards Shadowsun. Some part of them is glad that he is gone, for sure.
Evan Taylor
I'd be down. How many points, any houserules, etc? (1850 or otherwise?)
Nicholas Nguyen
I'd love it but I don't own the game, I'm afraid it's the kind of thing that people never find time to play with you.
If people signed up I'd buy the game and maybe try it.
Cameron Stewart
I sometimes run two 14-man CSM-squads, one with bolters and one with CCW/pistol, but sometimes I mix them up to have 7 of each per squad instead. Quite useful if I think I'll be the one to get assaulted in a game. Then the bolter guys are useful for shooting in the beginning, and arethe first to die due to standing in the front, meaning my squad has mostly CC-equipped marines left when charged. These guys have MoN.
I also run havocs with either 3AC 1ML, or 2AC/2ML. Often AA-missiles if I expect to meet flyers. Makes them very useful for just about anything, due to the versality of launchers.
On termis, some swords are always nice if you expect to meet marines.
Ethan Williams
I would like Tau to suffer a Chaos incursion. A corrupted commander with a horde of corrupted AI going full skynet.
Forces the Tau to realize how much they've been relying on muh superior tech.
Tau of course win, push back the traitor Commander who flees to Abby's Crusade.
But the cost is. The Tau become more hesitant of tech. Not to the level of the Imperium. But they send their Water Caste Diplomancers far and wide and the new kits of Tau would be focusing solely on Auxiliary
Kroots with Pathfinder style Armour (5+, that turms to a 5++ in cover) with Markerlights and Pulse Weapons. Vespids and more Auxiliary
Justin Gonzalez
Technically i'm extrapolating, and you are miss representing it. What the codex says is that the admech found an irreparable flaw in the golden throne. As in the throne WILL fail. Period. 100 percent going to happen, unless that gets retconned.
After this was discovered a group of radical inquisitors went and struck a "dark bargain". Knowing that the throne is going to fail the only thing they could really want is a way to preserve emps. If they wanted the throne preserved they wouldn't have gone to deldar, they would have just gone to eldar.
What the deldar have is the ability to make new bodies and move souls into them. which means that is probably what the inquisitors asked for. It makes the most sense. Now for their payment the deldar could basically want two things way i see it, slaves or help. Could be slaves, but that wouldn't make for as good a story/events as working together to defend the city.
Asher Martin
okay so this is using the sentinels of terra supplement.
- Heavy Support - Devastator Squad (5) 130pts x4 Missile Launcher
Devastator Squad (5) 150pts x4 Lascannon
Thunderfire Cannon (1) 100pts
-Fortifications- Aegis Defence Line 50pts
Jaxon Long
Justify this, Veeky Forums
Grayson Roberts
They would've asked for help or nulls. They can get slaves no problem. But if Khaine's Gate were to open / fail / be breached they'd be fucked.
Christian Baker
whats wrong?
Isaiah Kelly
Justify what? That's been the situation of the Imperium for some time.
Matthew Hughes
>Technically i'm extrapolating,
There is no technicality. You made shit up. The Dark Eldar are just as capable of making devices that prolong the victim's life/suffering. The Golden Throne is basically that.
So unless you have evidence that they plan to clone the Emperor a new body, please don't speak of it like it was certain. You will only spread misinformation. Now please get out.
Nathan Evans
Thats my point, what they want more than anything is for the gate to hold and for themselves to continue to survive. It says the bargain has already been struck. So i have every reason to believe we will see a imperium deldar team up.
I suppose you have a point. Alright, perhaps we shall see a repaired golden throne. In any case the deldar imperium thing is gonna go down.
Mason Rodriguez
2 squadrons of 2 walkers will shut down most Wraith lists, as long as they're away from gauss blobs.
>Yet all of these pale beside the most insidious threat of all, that of Chaos.
Dylan Reyes
If you want a fluffier list, replace maybe the stormtalons and some of the devastator/centurions/scouts with tactical marines in drop pods.
hes right by saying marines on foot get rekt. however 5-man dev squads with imp fist doctrine are cheap enough to warrant playing. and the aegis provides them good cover if you choose to use it.
Scout squads with twin-linked boltguns put out some serious firepower for their price and counteract the short range of sentinels of terra doctrine with their ability to infiltrate close to the enemy depending who youre playing.
Brandon Miller
They believe the memes, that's what. This board has pushed the hurr failbbaddon meme for so long that people who only know 40k from here think it's true.
Angel Bennett
Maybe it could work.
Kevin Perez
Well, it's true.
Orks and Tyranids want to murder them and eat them. Chaos wants to enslave them and their souls.
I would rather have a Tyranid munch on me.
Charles Ross
It has tons of positive reviews so something has gone right.
Gabriel Sanchez
I'd personally would prefer to have the dark eldar munch on me
Carson Harris
Threats from within are generally spookier than external threats
Liam Morgan
>the biggest threat to the imperium >is the imperium, but corrupted
Xeno fags BTFO
Jason Davis
I'll have to see if i can grab a m8 to test it during the week Seems like even 1k could take much longer than usual tho
Christopher Powell
>there are still people that exist and who post here, who claim to love the game, know the fluff and understand the setting and will sit there and tell you with a straight face straight in your eyes that the ultimate end game big bad villain ancient evil threat of the setting upon which everything revolves around are the Orks or the Nids or the Dark Eldar or the Tau or the Necrons and not Chaos
Joseph Kelly
Chaos biggest issue of why it seems a joke is because every faction save the Imperium has a Nope clause built in on why Chaos doesn't affect them.
Orks >Nope we have our own Ork Gods of Orkiness that protects us
Tau >Nope our souls are McDonalds tier while the Imperium is top steak
Necrons >Nope we have no souls
Tyranids >Nope we have no personality besides the Hive Mind
Eldar >Nope we learned after jobbing Slaanesh
Dark Eldar >Nope too edgy to be corrupted
Grayson Reed
Eldar >Nope we learned after jobbing Slaanesh
chaos still loves nomming on eldar souls. just because they carry soulstones that doesnt mean they can all be saved.
Ethan Edwards
There are Chaos Eldar living on daemon worlds/crime worlds. Not that many of em tho.
Lincoln Mitchell
the imperium is like 90% of the factions in 40k.
Christian Torres
Man, I wish they'd bring back Chaos Orks as a thing. Does anyone have that 3rd ed Daemonhunters artwork of the diseased Nurgle Orks? That or bringing back Stormboyz of Khorne would be neat.
Elijah Williams
That's mostly your headcanon.
All of them were attacked and got fucked up by Chaos. There are examples of Chaos corrupting all these races. I can give exact citations for each. Also they would dissolve into soup once Chaos breaks the walls of reality. Guess what's preventing that from happening? Just the Necron pylons and there isn't many of them left in the galaxy and the surviing ones cannot handle the pressure.
Brandon Morgan
True, but you don't really see Eldar's get corrupted or Craftworlds suffer from Chaos Cults you just see Eldar fighting Chaos / Eldar souls getting eaten by Chaos >(Correct me if I'm wrong)
Jack Baker
Chaos orks and chaos nids team up when?
Joseph Perez
It's because the game assumes you're gonna view things with human-centric tunnel vision, then gives you like 83 playable factions.
And then only really makes Chaos Marines relevant to the Imperium, besides some offhanded trolling of the Eldar by Slaanesh marines.
Christian James
What if the hive mind gets corrupted though?
>Chaos nids
Adam Turner
*crone worlds. Same shit I guess.
Juan King
Chaos Orks are still a thing. They are mentioned in CSM 6th ED codex and also the novel "Angron's Monolith" has feral Ork being corrupted by Khorne.
There is also FFG material which has the Blood Boyz who are Orks who abandoned G&M to worship Khorne.
Joseph Morales
i though the tau have no connection to the warp they were immune to the effects that the warp and chaos has on the mind.
maybe a chaos incursion as part of some crazy warp storm that EMPs their technology and puts them in the dark against chaos. forcing them to find analog means of communication and low tech weapons
David Hill
Path of the Dark Eldar. A Craftworld seer is corrupted by Tzeentch. The series also have tons of corrupted Dark Eldar working as cults trying to summon Nurgle and Tzeentch forces into the Dark City.
Carter Rogers
Go ahead and let me know where I'm wrong and strayed into headcanon.
Orks had old fluff of Khorne Orks / Orks accidentally worshipping an idol of Nurgle, but I was pretty sure for the Khorne Orks it was written as "just a phase for Orks and they grow out of it"
Lincoln Cruz
>the imperium is like 90% of the factions in 40k. Tyranids sends their regards.
Hive fleet Leviathan have numbers to devour entire galaxy and only faction with enough manpower to fight it is currently fighting witch Failbadon. That will be greatest and last failure for Armless, as he and his black crusade will make way to Holy Terra just in time to be nomed by hive fleet Good job chaos you will be able to destroy yourself.
Jonathan Robinson
Wait a minute...Citizen, how many arms does the Emperor have?
Luke Bennett
They are not immune. They are just hard to see. See the first rule.
Levi Bell
2 sir
Joseph Gutierrez
S-six?
Andrew Foster
Tau have a soul. Period.
But to the level of the soul it's usually so insignificant that they go unnoticed
>Why aren't there any Chaos Cults / Uprisings on Tau controlled Hive Worlds?
Andrew James
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Colton Carter
Trick question: He's a god. He can have as many or as little as He wills.
Jaxon Price
Can the god emperor create an object thats so heavy that he can't even move it?
Joseph Brooks
Eldar and Orks and Corrupted Tyranids are mentioned in "Storm of Iron" and Chaos made Tyranid their slaves in "Daemon World".
In Fire Warrior and FFG material show that the Tau can get corrupted albeit slowly with no effects until it builds up high.
Necrons check their 7th ED codex timeline. See the "Daemon Tomb"
Did I leave something out?
Ryder Gray
Neat. Will have to check that out.
Adrian Sanchez
None because he is dead
Wyatt Howard
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Bentley Diaz
>Corrupted Tyranids are mentioned in "Storm of Iron" and Chaos made Tyranid their slaves in "Daemon World". These are just Tyranids isolated from the Hive Mind and without the protection of the Shadow in the Warp. Nids end up with ferals or splinters running around all the time, but that makes up like 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of all Tyranids. It's like if Chaos corrupted a couple of my microscopic dead skin cells that sloughed off - doesn't touch the actual mind of the entity.
Ethan Lewis
He can create object so heavy that he can't move it and able to move it at the same time. He is a god user, logic does not concerns him.
Brayden Davis
He already did. Humanity's Destiny, so long as they continue to do as He wills.
Ethan Ross
>Hive fleet Leviathan have numbers to devour entire galaxy and only faction with enough manpower to fight it is currently fighting witch Failbadon.
Daemons outnumber that Hive fleet and all the Tyranids combined.
Also remember that Tyranids avoid warpstorms like a plague. With the Eye of Terror expanding (and other warpstorms forming and expanding across the galaxy) the Tyranids will have a lot of things removed off the menu. What makes your statement more stupid is that the Eye of Terror is heading straight towards Terra so the Nids in Seg-Solar will be chased off before the onslaught of Chaos. Eventually, the Eye will spread all over the galaxy and destroy it unless some miracle happens and stops it. So basically, Chaos, as the fluff stand, have already won. The Tyranids are too late.
Gabriel Reed
Does Russ really deserve all the hate?
Anthony Kelly
We are getting a little to surreal for me user
Jonathan James
memes, memes everywhere, on both sides of the debate.
Carter Ward
Is someone upset that Chaos is the true enemy?
Jaxson Nelson
One week in the pain glove and therapy sessions with your company chaplain until he is ready to pass further judgement on you, brother.
With all due respect, Ecclesiarch, we have to curb this hidden cult before it can spread any further.
Carry on citizen.
Kevin Stewart
That's not the point. The point that it does happen. Chaos warbands raid Tyranid fleets to steal their warrior beasts to work for them as slaves. The Iron Warriors stole and corrupted a whole hive ship.
Ayden Ross
Not at all. They're great tanks, just a little overpriced for some of their configurations and the whole Ordnance weapons make all other weapons snapfires.
Leo Williams
If he wasn't a boneheaded idiot, he could have apprehended Magnus who could replace Emps on the throne.
Carson Brown
Next book is more hopeful and will have a yellow/gold cover.
BL is releasing a boatload of Blood Angel books in March
Source: White Dwarf
Theory: Sanguinor/Dante is on the cover of the third book. Deals with the Nids and Kharn atacking the BA
Nolan Gomez
They will probably do the reaver equivalent next and then later on warlord equivalent.
Jose Sanders
WoM says that the Emperor told Horus to tell Russ to arrest Magnus. Horus changed the orders into KILL.
How is it Russ's fault that the Emperor trusted Horus to deliver the message?
Caleb Lewis
>overpriced I would argue they're under-priced considering how durable and how many guns the tank gets. The problem is regular vehicles are shit in this meta.
Kayden Adams
What would happen to those Slave-beasts if they were to return to Synapse?
If they instantly go back to acting like Tyranids in Synapse then they weren't corrupted.
If they stayed under Chaos' control then yup they were corrupted.
Julian Thompson
>Kharn atacking the BA
You mean Ka'Pandaman. And I would groan like brainless zombie if that happens. No more Imperium please. Some other factions need the spotlight.