How would you do an important and powerful character without them being like pic related. Stubborn...

All I remember her as is that one delicious brownie with abs who has loads of porn dedicated to her.

that's more or less everything to remember about her

Even if Legend of Korra is shit (I wouldn't know, I haven't watched it), I hope it will at least normalize musclegirls in Western (and perhaps in the long term Eastern too?) animation.

We can only hope.

By making them cheerful and fun.
I think one of the main mistakes in 95% of "powerful characters" is that they are serious as fuck and don't have even a bit of self-irony which makes them extremely boring. The only thing that helps Korra is that she's a hot brown musclegirl.

A gifted teenage bender taught they will change the world and be some bad ass avatar cloistered away from society would behave exactly how Korra does. Its realistic in this sense. Aang being more humble and responsible is also a result of his air bending monastic life.

Although it doesnt really make for a good protagonist to follow in a children's cartoon

How do you like Bryke adding canon gay?

But Aang actually ran away from those responsibilities. Part of what made Aang a good character was him maturing and owning up to them.

Korra had no contrast. Korra was the typical online-gamer personality, everyone worse than her was a LOL NOOB and everyone better than her made her angry. And because of author-fiat, that worked.
At the end of the first season when Korra lost most of her powers, there was never that moment of humility. For a whole season about the struggle between benders and non-benders, Korra never had a moment where she was grateful to still be a bender of the rarest type (air), still be considered a hero, and have gotten everyone out of this alive. There was never that moment of acknowledgement of "Oh, maybe I fucked up. Maybe I deserve this. Maybe those normal people who have no powers at all had a point in rallying behind Amon and Karma's a bitch." Nope, she just cried/got angry until she got her powers back via DM-fiat. Fuck all those normies who were afraid of benders opressing them or whatever, fuck having to even partially get a taste of that? Fuck actually being relateable to anyone else in the world at all.

Fuck, Korra had such shit writing. I could do multi-page thesises on each season, but I'll suffice to say they're all just as bad.

Wheelchair Korra

I remember that time she assaulted and threatened to murder a judge unless he reversed a legal ruling. That pissed me off so bad that I can't actually remember anything OTHER than that.

Was Book 2 just the worst of the writing? I gave up a couple episodes after that grand display of author-driven protection from consequences.

>Even if Legend of Korra is shit (I wouldn't know, I haven't watched it)

Season 1 was interesting if a bit slow to start.
2 sucked.
3 was god-tier.
4 was great up until the last episode, when it turned 8 shades of suck.

Make them learn and grow.

It was stupid and hamfisted, an obvious grab for the progressive crowd because the series had nothing else to it.

Why would I care one way or the other?

Book 2 was the worst, yeah, but all the seasons were garbage in their own way.

Literally the only good part about Season 3 was the Wan Flashbacks, because it was a story about an avatar that WASN'T Korra.

Tfw dropped it halfway through the first season way back when and never looked back

Not particular mad about it, but it really didn't add anything to the story. It felt... token. "Hey, lets make a character lesbian to show we're progressive." Maybe the build-up just sucked, I dunno.

>this thread reminding me just how mad I was at how poorly written Korra was as a character
I didn't even like the show that much, it was just THAT BAD

Season 3 would be God-Tier if Korra and her gang weren't there.

I'd rather watch a whole series about Tenzin struggling to remake the air nation.

Speaking of: why the fuck is bending genetic in Korra? I always thought the mechanical glider guys would eventually rediscover airbending.

>only good part about Season 3 was the Wan Flashbacks
That was season 2 bruv, Season 3 was the anarchists with Zaheer, who was a god-tier villain and made the season worthwhile.

It was shit, but I guess sexual preference is now the most important feature of personality, so better get used to it.

>Dropped halfway through season one
>Maybe season two is a bit better? Let's watch this marathon and find out
I made it halfway through that before the daze from the barrage of retcons wore off and I remembered why I dropped season one.
>oops I accidentally the Avatar cycle
>lol just make a new one

The Wan shit was stupid. The whole Raava and Vaatu shit was a straight up dumb retcon of the mythology of the series.

Remember in TLA where apparently all bending descended from humans bending energy itself? NOPE. Remember the Avatar being a mysterious, ancient soul meant to bring balance to the world? NOPE. Remember spirits being bizarre, dangerous animalistic creatures? NOPE.

Fuck LoK. All of it.

But bending is Genetic, and has been since the first show.

In one episode, Aang and Co were helping an Earth village against some disaster (flood or fire Nation). Basically, two minor characters were shown, a pair of twins with one being a bender and the other not.

I know it's a children's cartoon, but that is at least how I saw it explained.

but user the kite was balance
and the kite went into the avatar
and then the avatar stops the bad kite
also the dragon turtles did everything all along
it all makes sense

But how does that make any sense? If bending is genetic then where did the first benders come from? How did they first learn bending if it's an inherent genetic thing? That doesn't make any sense.

Hell, if identical twins have a bender and a non-bender THEN IT CAN'T BE GENETIC.

That's not true. Korra had character development. It's just that for some reason they felt the need to take her back to square 1 every new season except for the last one.

Season 1: What was Korra's character development again? crying because she lost some bending at the end and the immediately getting it back because main character? Because it sure as hell wasn't her developing any empathy for the plight of non-benders or anything (a plothook that generally gets ignored throughout the entire series despite its huge potential as a plot goldmine).

Season 2: I know I watched this season at some point, but it was so boring I literally don't remember any of it except the Wan stuff.

Season 3: Korra gets fucked up by the BBEG because she's still a stubborn idiot shonen hero. Other characters actually defeat the BBEG... which was cool, but it still doesn't mean Korra had any character development.

Season 4: SUDDENLY LESBIAN AT THE LAST EPISODE.

Yup, stunning character development there. Peg it right up there with Naruto and Kirito.

>But how does that make any sense?

It's part genetic, part magic. The magic part is ain't gotta explain dat shit. The genetic part is easy to see: earth benders have earth bender children. Fire benders have fire bender children. Water benders have water bender children. That the whole basis for the entire existence of separate elemental tribes.

Given, it's a little more complicated when a character have parents with several different bendings, but it's all the same shit, genetic.

The only non-genetic shit is the avatar, which can pop in any bender of the good element.

>If bending is genetic then where did the first benders come from?

Dat's the magic part. Ain't gotta explain shit. The bending forms were learned from mythical creatures, but the bending magic itself comes from we-don't-know.

Or, if the canon of Korra is to be believed, from giant turtle'n'shit.

>How did they first learn bending if it's an inherent genetic thing?

Mythological creatures for the forms, magic ain't gotta explain for the magic. And turtles, I guess. Korra is only good for mind-controlled muscle cocksleeve anyway.

But the identical twins means it can't be genetic. Because it's fucking stupid.

Shit I don't know mate, it's been a few years, so my memory is fuzzy. Wouldn't it be logical (within the context of the show) that the people/races of men descended from these strange spirits we see time and time again. Dragons are clearly fire spirits, and by some strange means, this power came to the Fire nation's "race".

That keeps to the core of the animist/spiritual themes seen in the show, and give greater importance to the Avatar, as he bridges the gap literally and spiritually.

Also I'm tired and I don't know shit about genetics since you brought up that counter to the twins, so I'll shut up and go away.

Refresh my memory, it's been ages, mate. Where are the identical twins again?

I don't think it's every implied that humans descended from spirits. Makes more sense that some humans just have an easier time bending than other.

avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Poi_and_Ping

Given how identical twins are made it's impossible for one to be a non-bender and have it still be genetic.

Well, maybe it's like DB. It's genetic, but the spark is magic, and sometimes you have it, and sometimes you don't. Genetic cross magic and whatev.

It's clearly genetic, but maybe the spirits choose in the pool who they want to exalt or something like that. It's at least 50% genetic in any case.

>mister i'm not actually going to do my duties but get multiple deus exs to save me
>character development

Unless it's some magic recessive gene that activates randomly

She learned not to be headstrong and to try and talk things out instead of KORRA PUNCH

She just did it at the wrong time for the one villain who actually needed to be Korra punched.

But if it's 50% genetic then what are the odds that 4 different genetically diverse cultures all developed a similar form of it independently?

It being genetic is stupid.

The only real asspull was the lion turtle, user. Compare that to Korra's...everything.

Yup, and despite the ultimate deus ex ending, he was still a more interesting and relateable character than "brodude with boobs" Korra.

Naruto has actual character development mate. Please don't compare with Korra.

Yes, something like that. Having the good genes is a prerequisite to be a bender, but not the only prerequisite. They also need to be activated by magic or something like whatever.

Except she didn't. At all.

For example her first course of action to stop the season 4 BBEG was to challenge her in an honorable duel, only to cheat and have her friends jump in when she was losing, and then still continue to fight said BBEG even though she promised to leave her alone if she lost that fight.

But you know, who needs honor or honesty when you're a MAIN CHARACTER?

...

Because we saw Aang grow. Compare his love story to Korra's: it takes two and a half seasons for him to openly express his feelings, and throughout those seasons we see his guilt, his doubts, his various hang ups and we can thus root for him.

It was like that with everything he did. We saw Aang grow.

Your right, Naruto is pretty shit-tier shonen garbage as a series, but even the main character there had more actual character development and developed more real wisdom that Korra. I'm sorry.

Naruto's problem was less with it's protagonist and more with it's anatgonist. Sasuke is a pretty good comparison to Korra in terms of "characters that fucked up the entire series".

>It being genetic is stupid.

Hola hola. Hold your horses.

Genetic doesn't mean evolutionary developed. Genetic doesn't mean science and shit and little monkeys developing genes for fireball punching out of the blues. That would be strange.

Genetic, in that sense, literally means in the blood: touched by the spirits, your blood has the possibility of Exalting and becoming a dragon-blooded... I mean, becoming a bender. It's probably something magical, or created by magic. There is probably a gene for bending somewhere (if genetics apply to the world of TLA), but I doubt it was created by pure randomness. 'Intelligent' turtle design by canon.

Yeah...sorry.

Sasuke makes me appreciate how well written Zuko was.

You're making a lot of leaps of logic to justify a stupid retcon in LoK, man.

Make them old
Done
What's next

Agreed. Remove turtles from the equation. The turtles should never have been born to begin with. They are an abomination.

They were okay in the original.

>The only real asspull was the lion turtle, user

>chiropractor rock
>koizilla

She talked Kuvira down at the end. but it was bullshit. I mostly agree with you. I just think she developed a teensy tiny bit, even if it was possibly in the wrong direction. I don't really care enough to argue about it.

Second season was the only decent one, everything else was clearly rushed and chopped to bits.
But it's okay, because it gave us Bolin.

> Second season was the only decent one

...

Patrician Vetinari.

I agree with your points Mr image poster please keep posting with images so I know it's you.

I would make them a character more introspective and withdrawn from the politics of nations but give them traveling companions so they can grow and overcome their own faults with some effort

Second season gave us Cave Johnson: Avatar Edition, and it's the only season where she recognizes that the villain has a point and actually goes through with it. Season 4 had so much potential, but they squandered it all by going down the route of "Oh, she's actually an eeeeevil dictator", just like they squandered season 1 by shitting the finale out and making Amon full of shit, a twist that everyone saw coming from miles away. That's one of the shows greatest weaknesses: The villains all kinda have a point, but in the end they are all evil enough to keep the characters from actually meaningfully questioning themselves.

Kuuvira legitimately wasn't evil at all. The other nations just got butthurt that she spec'd more resources into military research than she did. Trufax.

Dunno. They're all equally bad in my book. At least the third season had half decent villains? Though the sudden superman scene was ridiculous. And the fourth had yoda toph? Or something?

Who am I kidding. The second season is the worst. It had turtles, man. And Ravaa. And that little psychopathic shit who's the first avatar and makes me literally figuratively puke.

Gladly, but I don't have much safe for your cubicles, mate.

All I remember about this series is that at least it wasn't as insulting to TLA fans as the movie and that it sent /co/ and /u/ into overdrive.

Also delicious brown musclegirl lesbian porn. That's always a plus.

The series gave us good art and that's about it yeah.

Literally just don't play them like that. Fuck, most PCs end up important and powerful.

>3 was god-tier

old toph and a morality-flipped airbender slash white lotus made for high points, but hardly elevate another dull season

>Avatar is a great show with no porn
>Korra is a shit show with a tonne of great porn

How to make good show and good porn?

You need good plot and thick musclegirls.

If only TLAB didn't have a dark knight-esq character beloved by the fans in addition to being genuinely funny and given an arc. In addition to being the only non-bender main cast.

Somebody bolin could never possibly begin to equal?

Exept this is not what Korra was or you just dropped it after first episode?

Aside from a few scenes/her being in the avatar state she really doesn't look muscular. It's a shame because that style choice fits the character far better.

>female protagonist
>only good for sex appeal
really makes you think

She has a well-defined muscular shoulders and arms. Shame they never showed her abs.

what..what in the fuck have you done user?

Nah, she looks blocky in all the good way. It's subtle but enough to give the impression of muscles.

I'll try keep the pics up, but I wonder if I won't get the banhammer for unrelated shit soon. Will do my best until then.

>that pic

Indeed.

What really grinds my gear is the fact that Korra has lost her past lives. Dammit.

Thousand and thousand of years of wisdom (barring the first little shit) lost. Countless lives and sage souls in the fucking trash. For ever. And ever. For all the reincarnation of the avatar, for the future and future. Thousand of years of history lost to that little cunt.

She could (should) have been mind-controlled and used as a cocksleeve for the rest of her life, and she would still have been a more successful avatar in retrospect than what she is now. Korra the cocksleeve is less of a loser, in the grand scheme of things, than our canon Korra. This is stupid.

Your words are rude but I want you to keep posting them regardless.

Depends on where their power is derived from.

If they are a studiously groomed chosen-one, they'd probably be very by the book on their first time out, and slowly grow into their abilities, remaining grounded the whole time.

If they are powerful by birthright but didn't have anyone to teach them the responsibility that comes with that, they'd be petulant and impulsive, but prone to regret at their overreactions.

An older character could be cool and calculated.

Power doesn't necessarily change the way a character behaves. What really matters is how the character feels about it.

If this had happened we would've gotten a lot less brown musclegirl lesbian porn. This is unacceptable.
Anything that was sacrificed to get brown musclegirl lesbian porn was expendable in the face of the results.

I like Castlevania's Belmont family as a go-to for legendary people.
They know they're big shit, they don't bemoan it as a burden, they're proud of being "the only one who can stop Dracula"tm and don't break down in desperate uselessness when others do the job like Korra did when she lost her powers. And most importantly, they threat everyone else good or neutral with respect and responsability.

You want someone who will shit-talk the devil to his face but be courteous to people who have done them no wrong.

A lot more brown musclegirl straight porn though.

They wanted so hard to make Korra the strong independent womyn type that they didn't even let her get a male partner in fear of emasculating her.

This is totally correct and deserves more (you)s

The biggest problem with the story was just over pressured writers.

The original was three seasons of 20 episodes, 60 episodes total, that told ONE story.

Korra was 4 seasons that told 4 different stories and each was only 14 episodes long.

You just can't compress a show like that and still have good character development.

Generally the best media doesn't have porn because people develop an emotional rapport with it.

I like this way of thinking.

Alternatively, stubborn, childish, and complete bitch, all this crap, but in a fun and amusing way. Like Mumei from Habaneros. She knows she's hot shit. She knows she's the biggest hot shit in the biggest pond. She's arrogant, vain, and proud, but in a way that moves the narrative forward. Don't make her the protag, keep a good foil at hand.

The story should have embraced Korra as supremely vain, arrogant, and altogether disliked by everyone. That would have been a real change from 'Buddha 3: return of Buddha' Aang.

>Avatar
>No porn

>The story should have embraced Korra as supremely vain, arrogant, and altogether disliked by everyone.

So, female Archer?

I'm starting to think people only like Korra because of the rule 34

ITT: People whining about a perfectly decent show

>The story should have embraced Korra as supremely vain, arrogant, and altogether disliked by everyone

Are you sure you're not saying this because it's exactly how you see every woman who doesn't want to fuck you?

According to a few random searches I did on boorus, the ratio of fan-art:porn seems to be directly proportionate to the quality of the characters. The better the characters, the less porn there is.

Booru numbers are very inaccurate and it relied on users properly tagging, however, but the hypothesis stands.