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The baatezu of the Nine Hells, in collaboration with the yugoloths of Gehenna, have concocted a nefarious scheme to sway mortals towards law and evil.

Many desperate are to be given "binding rods." These rods can project Silent Images of an illustrated catalogue of the unique devils of Baator. Whenever the mortal willingly commits a major act of law and/or evil (with neither chaos nor good), the rod gains a single charge. A rod can hold unlimited charges.

A charge can be expended to permanently conjure and planar-bind a lesser aspect of one of the unique, powerful devils of the Nine Hells! The aspect serves the mortal faithfully, and if captured or killed, will reform in a binding circle in the mortal's home. There are some catches:
• Which aspect is conjured is completely randomized. You might receive an aspect of mighty Mephistopheles or even Asmodeus himself. You could get an aspect of a beautiful she-devil like Zariel, Fierna, Glasya, Baalphegor, or Lilith, whose artwork in the catalogue looks so enticing! Or you could be stuck with an aspect of one of the rubbish Rabble of Devilkin, like Cahor or Rumjal, whom you have probably never heard of before. Obviously, the more desirable aspects are much rarer than the forgettable ones.
• The rod projects a Silent Image "spinning wheel of fortune" animation to show you JUST how close you were to getting that aspect you wanted.
• You can have only four aspects active at any given time. The rest are kept in temporal stasis in the binding circle at home. You must return to this circle to swap around your active aspects.
• You can wind up with duplicate aspects.

On the bright side...
• You can meditate upon the rod daily for a quest! These are small, generic missions to commit a minor act of law and/or evil. Fulfilling a daily quest bestows a small boon.
• Meditating upon the rod daily for an entire month gives bonus charges at the end of the month, even if you failed to complete daily quests.

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• Conjuring aspects in large batches comes with a discount of charges, but you must commit to the mass-conjuration beforehand.
• The rod announces special days wherein the appearance rates of certain powerful devils dramatically improve! Better stockpile charges before those days.
• A binding rod is actually cheap and easy to craft, even for a mundane mortal. Giving a binding rod to a friend rewards you with a large amount of charges!

How much havoc will this insidious scheme wreak?

>Devils using Freemium skinner's box schemes to spread large quantities of minor evil

Suitably lawful and evil, I approve.

Gacha is bad civilization, so I can't really be surprised that's a literal demonic scheme.

It's not amazing but I mean, it doesn't seem to cost devils any, forms a contract to increase law and necessitates evil actions.

So it's okay/10. I wouldn't make it the huge evil scheme but something a minor demon is sstarting to build or a system that's becoming a core part of the setting could work.

Just imagine all those people screwing their family out of inheritance thanks to legal loopholes just to get that SSR Asmodeus in a Santa hat. Most devilish scheme.

The baatezu and the yugoloths are considering implementing prerequisites for conjuring an aspect of one of the more desirable devils, like Glasya or Asmodeus. The idea is that you must first have aspects of their retainers in your binding circle.

For Glasya, this is easy, as her only retainer is Tartach.

If you want Asmodeus, you will first need Adramalech, Phongor, Buer, Bune, Morax, Rimmon, Zagum, Alastor, Baalberith, and Martinet.

You need these prerequisites first, and only THEN do you have a chance of conjuring the archduke in question.

Should this be implemented in this scheme, or would it discourage foolish mortals, since they know they have no chance of getting an aspect of Glasya or Asmodeus on their first try?

It costs the unique, named devils power to create those aspects, but they gain a net profit in power because of the mortals' acts of law and evil.

>Whenever the mortal willingly commits a major act of law and/or evil (with neither chaos nor good), the rod gains a single charge.
>>Whenever the mortal willingly commits a major act of law

>paying taxes
>writing letters to officials
>volunteer work
>baking cookies for the town guards
>being honest and keeping your word

Sounds pretty nice.

It might sound weird, but yes, the baatezu are equal parts law and evil.

Every law-abiding act is a step towards winning the Blood War for the Nine Hells!

>volunteer work
>baking cookies for the town guards

These have a bit too much good in them though. You might not qualify for a charge that way!

>current PC is bound by an epic level ritual to be a soul sacrifice to a demon lord, as well as his fiance and sister
>currently looking for a way out of it
He would likely jump at the opportunity to get some manner of patronage of that scale if it meant a way to save his loved ones.
>OP can keep posting best Onee-san as much as they want

The exact wording was "Law OR Evil"
The acts are lawful and therefore meet the requirement, as there is no provision preventing said lawful acts from being good in the original wording of the arrangement.

>a major act of law and/or evil (with neither chaos nor good)

Sounds like the plot of a shitty anime that drags on way to long.

I'd watch it.

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Well... surely an act such as taking cookies to a town guard with the express purpose of gaining charges for the rod would not be an entirely unselfish thing and could therefore be considered to be at least neutral for charging purposes

SSR Asmodeus in a Santa hat is literally the same Asmodeus artwork, but with a crudely-drawn Santa hat painted on his head. This will still inexplicably be far more popular than the regular artwork.

Suffering.

Brilliant.

I love you guys.

Sure, but you will need an extremely mercenary attitude in your heart while going about it, enough that your intent will outweigh what (little) good you create.

Speaking of extraneous accessories, the developers of the ruby binding rod are considering padding out the appearance rates with "equipment" that only certain aspects can wield.

Did you want a new aspect? Too bad. You got a lance that only your lance-proficient aspects can use!

>artwork has sprung up in cults and picture books and distributed about towns of these rare devil aspects
>angels have been dispatched to deal with the issue and are bewildered at the amount of vitriol being heaped upon Asmodeus and minions even as the mortals keep spinning the gambling wheels

The celestials can start their own randomized planar binding scheme, but the Upper Planes have fewer unique, named celestial paragons to hand out aspects of.

>eat these cookies you fucks

Alternatively

>It's... it's not like I made these cookies because I like you, I just want more charges!

Gachas are objectively Lawful Good because they're a trap for people with addictive personalities and low self-control, but they won't kill you like drugs or alcohol.

Gacha saves lives.

I think the good gods would be morally against exploitive business models, and would instead try to get people off of that stuff in some manner.

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It would be in a god's power to grant charges to a rod, right? Maybe Lawful Good gods would simply just hijack the rods and have it give charges if you do Lawful Good actions as well.

But ultimately intents don't matter, acts do.

You can make a contract with the Town Guard to supply them with cookies for a reasonable price, though.

Bonus points if you win the tender by abusing legal loopholes, and use the profits to eventually monopolize the cookie production and manipulate the town government, using your Guard sponsor status as leverage.

We call that using a trainer for your account.

Bad god.

>Gods directly getting involved in Devil's affairs
>cold war going hot

I would argue lawful neutral as they don't actively save lives, they just inhibit condemnation a bit.

That seems like something the Chaotic Good gods would do, not the Lawful Good.

>The divine afterlife is infinite gacha rolls

I'd worship them

Thinly veiled FEH Thread?
Thinly veiled FEH Thread.

What does qualify as a major act of evil without chaos? Obviously murdering for fun is too chaotic, but what about other nefarious deeds?

Using a disguise to capture a good guy, like a real paladin.

>Major act of Evil without chaos
A pre-planned and carefully executed jewel heist.
A Long Con siphoning off money from a rich family.
tax evasion

Don't do it. Nobody would whale for say, Arturia, if you had to have Merlin, Gawain, Lancelot, Bedivere and Tristan prior. People whale for their favourites, adding hoops means less odds of whaling.

Clever, vey clever. However, you have forgotten one key aspect of your plan.

Defence attorneys, by default, follow the law in order to ensure a not guilty verdict for their clients! Anyone in a client-oriented postition, such as a defence attorney, can, and most likely will, cherry-pick truly innocent clients apart from actually guilty clients!

By such logic, a defence attorney could easily complete several collections simply by fulfilling his work and sell complete collections to whomever is interested.

>implying you can sell or trade them

You'd be surprised.

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It was so effective that it had to be made illegal, in real life.

Considering the OP is gbf, it'd be more likely if it was a thinly veiled granblue thread that either turns into Doraf/Erune/Sexy Potato porn or attempts at turning the games lore into a workable gaming session. I'm okay with both.
I got a 5* Lyn, so I've gotten pretty much everything I want outta FEH. No good Greens beside Anna who I haven't used, so I'm a bit sad on that front

>thicc monk demon lady
You got my attention.
>flamethrowers in greaves
you got my interest.

Why is stealing a jewel counts as major? Even if it's pretty and valuable, it won't really hurt anyone. The owner can probably live and function without it.

Maybe if I kill the owner and the guards in cold blood to get to the jewel and other valuables, then yeah, sure.

1. Lawyers strengthen the cosmic force of law. This should not come as a surprise.

2. The aspects cannot be sold or traded.

Gyus, you're overlooking
> A binding rod is actually cheap and easy to craft, even for a mundane mortal. Giving a binding rod to a friend rewards you with a large amount of charges!

1. You and your friend craft buttloads of rods
2. Exchange them endlessly
3. ???
4. PROFIT!

Of course, this plan doesn't work without a friend, so maybe friendship was demons' plan all along.

That's a bit different than that kind of Gacha. The system as posted earlier would lock Asmodeus out of the gacha until you had all the others and then you could roll them. Kompu gacha gave you the special reward for getting A, B and C. This would unlock them in the Gacha, much like clearing Camelot put Tristan in the gacha.

Well, they are physical goods. I fail to see anything preventing these rods to be collected en masse, and completed rods from being sold or traded, barring self-destructive means such as limiting them to one per person, or connecting the collections by person, rather than by rod, which would severely cut back on the consumer base shortly after the fact was observed.

At no point did i imply selling or trading individual aspects, but rather selling or trading a completed collection rod for money or unrelated goods. Maybe Steel Samurai figurines?

>Major act of Law
>Performing the societally expected minimum to be a functional citizen. Or just pandering.
You seem to have mistaken trivial for major.

Damn, now I really want to run a game where all the beings from the Lesser Key of Solomon are summons, though only those from Ars Goetia are available at first.
Oddly, it seems that there are not versions of the 72 in anime girl form, which perplexes and disturbs me.

Only one rod can be attuned at a time, and if you attune a new rod, you lose your stored aspects!

Also, to create the rods you have to actually do a minor act of villany.

Fine Print:
• The party accepting the new binding rod must redeem at least one charge from it.
• The referral reward is generated upon this redemption.
• Any given party can generate only one referral reward.

The binding circle and the aspects collected therein are tied to one's soul. Even if a rod transfers ownership, the binding circle's bond remains the same.

>How much havoc will this insidious scheme wreak?
You're literally evil.

Which in turn, would severely cut back on the consumer base, maybe even to the point that anything else would be more efficient. When faced with the option of doing lawful or evil acts without good or chaos, many of those who think themselves better people, would much rather do good rather than evil, even in desperation, in order to cling to their notion of benevolence. Thus, you'd only have a small group of active users, and a large group of passive users who do maybe one redeemable action per decade, if that.

On the other hand, you can get yourself an aspect of a beautiful she-devil to serve you as your waifu.

Celestials, in an attempt to limit the flow of essence and worship generated by the planar devices, discovered that, by exploiting regular astrological events, they can temporarily edit the summoning matrix, occasionally summoning some of their most powerful and/or attractive angels alog with the regular demons. It was hoped that their presence in the mortal's binding circle would guilt trip them into stopping.

Unfortunately, the heavens did not anticipate the allure of Limited Edition summons.

Well ain't that just ridiculously convenient

That's fair. I just have seen FEH everywhere and took a guess.
Nino best green if you can find her, Minerva is also okay

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they came in multiple flavors

It seems to me like you're just makin' these up as you go now. Proprietary binding circles? Attunement? What kinda crap are ya trying to pull ah?

Their race is Doraf. The woman are built for breeding. The men are built like a brick shithouse.

>Thinly veiled FEH Thread.
>OP's pic is Granblue
u wot m8

You were only looking at the basic product description, not the EULA.

GBF seems like a pretty cool setting to play an RPG in. Literally sky-pirates chasing the magical hidden isle of plot, and getting into adventures with a bunch of really cool races and monsters. Dorafs, Humans, Erunes and Harvins probably being the only playable races.

What's a major act of law then.

As long as i can homebrew Erun to have tails.

Cat/foxgirls without tails are just not the same.

Yuel has a tail. I dunno if there's an in universe reason, but I don't know how I'd feel about tied for best boy here with a tail

Time for more Gacha bait

Which is completely up to luck whether or not one is received, something which the average passive user may not have much patience for. The novelty wears off rather quick.

Not to mention, considering mankind's existing track record with EULA contracts, most of the rods would end up as dead weight simply due to incompatible personalities or attempts at gaming the system. It might work if the virtual goods could be redeemed through something other than a lawful/evil act without neither chaos or good, which, inherently, ends up clashing severely with some, something which would not be an issue with conventional currencies. That's not even getting into the fact that less savory entities may attempt to meddle with the rods, up to and including altering the EULA to their own ends.

It says something about the product when the EULA itself may defeat the entire purpose of the item under it's protection.

Not to mention, tacking on an End User License Agreement without having the end-user actually agree to it first doesn't strike me as particularily "lawful"

Indeed. While i can understand an impatient sort agreeing to the EULA without reading it in order to access the meat of the product, adding one after the fact, or hiding it in such a way that it can be ignored without even seeing it can be tantamount to fraud.

>bad civilization

Mysterious Heroine X Alter is most baddest civilization

>first draw of first gacha is 4* Nino
>proceed to steamroll eight chapters without worrying about my wallet
Best daughteru

Did you name them Gacha based off that Japanese vending machine game? That game is pretty evil.

I feel like I fell for that irl, so it seems like a practical idea.

If people in real life waste tons of cash just to get a 2D waifu gacha, they'd spend lots more to get a real loyal devil waifu.

Why would I want the Lord of the Nine in a Santa hat? Isn't that thematically ill-fitting?

The joke is that it's literally a mobile game gacha system like from Granblue Fantasy (which OPs pic is from) but with premium currency replaced with acts of evil and malice. This is a fantastic deal for devils considering how readily people already ruin their lives for gacha waifus. Some nip died after borrowing money from the Yakuza to whale for Scathatch and couldn't pay it back

And how is Alter Lily Santa Jeanne d'Arc appropriate? Gachas don't give a damn about that, it has to seel, and for it to sell it has to be cute. All of Baator needs a facelifting for a better PR anyway.

>Some nip died after borrowing money from the Yakuza to whale for Scathatch and couldn't pay it back

Is this true? Why would you die for worse lancer?

Would the scheme be improved by turning it into box/package gacha?

Oh? And which one is the better one?

Not everyone can have good taste user

FGO is such a shit game even for mobage standards, but they know how to design their gacha baits.

What makes this more insidious than "discount for mass pulls"?

_Which_ Scathach of which mobile game in particular? There's two or three Scathachs.

It encourages whaling to increase the probability. However it is possible and insidious to make it as difficult by setting the SSR rate to 0.0x %, so if the gacha machine is "emptied", the SSR rate will be equivalent to the SRR rate of a normal gacha.

I don't know about minimum % regulations on gacha prizes, but I heard some FF mobile games have lower gacha rates outside of Japan.

you mean like very single fantasy race ever???

woops wrong one.

Still the point stands.

So the same principle as "mass summons = better discounts/rates" then, like in a lot of mobages?

The sky racing event was fantastic.

Is gambling a lawful or chaotic act?

Seing as the rods were meant for desperate people, do you thínk people like that would have the time for such frivolities? If it was for the common populace, i can understand your point, but...

Not to mention, the only reason people waste cash here is because cash is somewhat readily available. In OP's post, an act of lawful or Evil alignment without chaos or good is required for each gacha, which is a lot less sustainable than using money to buy gachas. Only the most fanatical would be ready to do such actions for a, possibly snowball's chance in hell, to get a devil waifu.

Fate/Grand Order limited servant 5*

Erunes and Harvin prove you wrong there

>Some nip died after borrowing money from the Yakuza to whale for Scathatch and couldn't pay it back
PROOFS

But if that's true it's fucking hilarious.

THE ONLY STORY DEVELOPMENTS THAT MATTER ARE TAKEUCHI WANTING TO DRAW LITTLE GIRLS
-Nasu, 2016 probably

>Moe fang same color as skin.

Disgusting.

While not a news story reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3wdmq8/someone_in_japan_just_spent_600k_yen_trying_to/
There's this. It's old news, so trying to find it is a pain

Just put laxatives in the cookies, you dolt.