Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

Dude, why are you even surprised?

Who do you play against regularly?

His own.

Put the res orb where his head used to be.

Ultramarines, Nids, Elysians and Ulthwé.

Rowboat Gillyman's head.

reminder that eldar are literally going to be grand alliance: death in 8th edition

hes english, just be thankful you can understand him and he dosent have that gutterspeak english white trash accent

This comes with being a britbong.

In related news, people have dialects and accents.

Jesus seriously?
What did they do now? I literally just started collecting thousand sons with the intention of playing them, now you tell me the best faction just got better?

They all get fnp, the characters get wounds back when their units die next time, if one of their units die within 7 inches of anther unit that unit gets to shoot/move for free.

>sell fuckhuge models for lots of money to WAACfags
>make boxed sets like Start Collecting and Armoured Assault for normal players
It kinda checks out.

Gotta admit, as someone coming fresh into the hobby, start collecting and armored assaults are pretty fucking awesome. I just wish my LGS sold ones that weren't Guard or Tau.

I'm really glad my FLGS has an online shop, so you can order stuff or just be sure they have it in stock. And them being about 20% cheaper than GW is also nice.

Is this real?
I don't understand, what do the guys who "balance" the rules hope to achieve with this?

Nice. Mine will do orders from GW for me but it's just getting to the point where if I want anything I have to ask them to order it and they're only slightly cheaper than GW. They only stock Marines and the offshoots, Tau and IG for 40k. They have maybe one or two boxes for other armies, typically things that don't get bought in large amounts like huge Nids. I play CSM/KDK so once I bought the one box of ten standard CSM they sold I had to start ordering.

it's a good buff to dark eldar and harlequins, but idk about craftworld guys since it means less scatterbikes but another shooting phase at the cost of some cheap wyches sounds tasty

you're too hung up on the word and idea of balance user; this is done to boost the eldar races a bit since they're taking a major hit fluff wise

The fluff should have no bearing on the game, Eldar are already no fun to play against on the tabletop so their answer was to make them stronger?

the eldar always have incredibly powerful rules since they're the good guy army that was literally built from the ground up to job and get slaughtered by other armies

this most recent fluff update shows the largest concentration of eldar in the galaxy (commoragh) exploding due to a chaos invasion, then the new largest concentration of eldar in the galaxy (biel-tan) being blown up by THEIR OWN PEOPLE

thats the equivilent of terra going nuclear, then the imperial fists deciding to move to macragge and blowing it up, taking most of the smurfs with them.

frankly I'd be more than happy if the new book was a direct nerf to the eldar so long as the lore showed us winning, I always prefered fluff over crunch anyway

the fact that I collect dark eldar too doesn't help

In reality it's just another nerf. My local group has been boycotting eldar since the beginning of 7th edition. The only eldar player remaining in the entire state of florida is some tourneyfaggot who brings multiples of those forgeworld wraithknights to every game, and is completely delusional about his own race. Like this dude is so fucking delusional, he rightly belongs in a mental hospital.

> Dat feel when you boycott eldar so hard that one faggot even gets rid of his entire 15,000 point collection.

All you have to do is tell your opponent:
> "No thanks, I don't want to play against Eldar"
And you win.

So you think because the eldar are getting wrecked in the fluff they should be able to easily win 9/10 games on the tabletop?
Naw that shit aint gonna sail, that's bullshit.
The two things should have no bearing on each other what so ever.

Well, my LGS is about an hour away from my place, so I usually order anyway. Just driving to it and hope something I want is there is always a bit risky. Don't wanna drive over a hundred kilometers just to find nothing. But the stock in the store isn't that great anyway, loads of CSM, SM and IG, with a bit of Eldar inbetween. And I'm a Necron player.

I thought that was how you were meant to pronounce it, since the name comes from the Beltane festival

Are you telling me I shouldn't pronounce Saim-Hann as "sow-in" either?

>And you win
No, then you dont play at all.

I play fucking orks and I never turn down a game bases solely on what my opponent is playing, thats shitty. Ill play against eldar and have fun giving the smelly elves a bloody nose

never said I agreed with it, in fact i hate it.

unfortunately the fact remains that the eldar's strength in the crunch has only ever been matched by their tendency to job in the fluff, I hate this fact and wish that they would cut the bullshit, but its still true.

I bet you play grav-spam marines too faggot.

more seriously, do you ban eldar as a race or just the craftworlders, cos I've got a substantial Deldar/harlequin collection too.

would you turn down a game with 3 raiders, 2 ravagers and a shitload of reavers?

according to gw, why not? if anything it's about time for their mandatory update/supplement since their only supplement for craftworlds is a 6th oop book

you don't like waacs, fine. but what about the casual players and those not looking to cheese the game? i do eldar but i'm more likely to use guardians then a wraithknight.

>This
My imperial guard regiment will never turn down the chance to fight and die for the Emperor.

Play 30k if you want usable thousand son rules.

IS there a compilation of their leaked rules yet? I saw the individual pics but didn't save them

Just craftworlders. I play Herohammer marines bro. My every-day casual list is like 30 rough riders supported by 3 tactical squads, 4 scout squads, and a pair of librarians walking around with a beatstick captain in some honour guard. I'll also take like 4 dreadnoughts. Because dreadnoughts are cool as shit. Most of my tactical squads are also walking around with a heavily pimped-out veteran squad.

The problem with this is that the only eldar player remaining in my area is THE MOST UNFORGIVING WAACFAGGOT in all of existence, and whose "Casual" list consists of 6 squads of D-guard in wave serpents supported by wraithknights. In the 5 years I've played this game, I have never once seen him run anything less than that kind of list.

Magnus is just a teensy bit OP, but here's the whole thing.

imgur.com/a/NkoTp

With the new Biel-Tan stuff coming in, does that mean more Macha fapfics?

they dont all get FNP. the "the eldar player's units get fnp(6+)" rule is a mission special rule

all the named characters have a chance (4+ for infantry, 3+ for avatar) to regain a wound when a nearby friendly model dies
if a unit dies within 7" of one or more units, one of those units can move/shoot/run/charge as if it was their appropriate phase

Same thing here user. we hardly have any Tau or Eldar players at our store now. Now we just need to get rid of the Necron players.

lets say i got a mek in a unit of flash gitz.

the mek wants to repair a killa kan. can the flash gitz still fire at something else?

imgur.com/a/dbR41

so there is a focus on regaining health on the 3 new characters, soulburst is the major thing

30 rough riders? you're a mad man. with that many they have to make it to combat at least once but they still fight like guardsmen

>implying necrons are on the same tier as Tau or Eldar

Thank you
I never saw their RoW
I like guard of the crimson king

Lol, they get hilarious when used in a Castellans, which is now the new patrician way to play casual 40k. I once had a 10-man squad with a Khan gib a tyranid Tervigon on the charge, while another squad chased his melee flyrant all over the board to prevent it from landing.

While Rough Riders are definitely mediocre; even in a Castellans, they are easily the most fun unit I have ever tried using.

Refusing to play WAAC is fine but you can't just boycott an entire faction, that's gay as fuck.

Filthy beggar faggot here. Any chance that someone has the Raven Guard codex? That is literally the only thing i want that isn't in the trove

>more
There's already some that exist?

you do bretonnia and king arthur proud user

get the angels of death supplement, all their rules are in there

No, you don't understand the true meaning of waac here with the Eldar. It is straight up impossible for Eldar to not be a WAACFAG, as every last fucking one of their units is lightyears ahead of everyone else's. Even their most mediocre of units like storm guardians are still orders of magnitude better than most other faction's melee specialists.

I only ever put casual fun lists on the board. But my idea of casual fun isn't to just bend over and take it in the ass just because I wanted to have a good old fashioned mosh pit in the center of the board with multiple hero-dudes challenging each other to awesome duels.

does anyone here have the link to the new eldar formations from gathering storm 2?

Commoragh hasn't exploded, it is at war.

Biel-Tan hasn't exploded or ceased to exist, it has turned into a megafleet of huge pre-Fall ships because its Infinity Circuit fell apart BIRTHING THE ELDAR WIN BUTTON GOD.

Stop being such a baby.

A direct nerf would be welcome. Then I'd have to deal with less asshurt babbies like
who are stupid enough to think they'll ever get a truly balanced game out of GW and refuse to play when they feel like they're in danger of losing.

I see. TY.

Are there special rules for Catachan plants that one could use on their board?

No fun playing when you can't kill a single enemy unit.

God, you are so fucking bitchmade. If your list doesn't flop their dicks out and slap fucking GUARDIANS around, you're an objectively shitty player and should just pack your shit up and leave.

one of my best friends plays eldar and frequently tables me. When I beat him it's only ever barely, but I do win. I think you might just need to improve your strategy beyond charge mid and smash each other. As much as I can appreciate that kind of battle, it won't do against space elves.

Bro, there's a difference between "Not wanting to lose" and "Not wanting to play a game where I have a 100% chance of losing". Playing eldar is like a whole game of ROCKET TAG. They just automatically destroy every unit they point at with no real chance for me to fight back.

I have no intention of playing any sort of rocket tag games. I only want to play casual games over beer and pretzels with friends. Is it completely impossible to understand that maybe some people just don't like playing competitively?

in codex catachans, yes

I believe there was also a set of them in index astartes in one of their articles.

So applying even the slightest bit of strategy is now playing competitively? You just want to mindlessly throw units into the fray and roll dice? I'm surprised it's just eldar you hate if that's your play style

How does Castellans make Rough Riders much better? Just because of Hatred or what?

>So applying even the slightest bit of strategy
You mean the thing that Eldar don't need to do because they get free firepower shoved up so far up their ass their ScatLasers protrude from their ears?

>I bet you play grav-spam marines too faggot.
>eldar RWBYfag calling anyone else a faggot

>The narrator in the Visarch video says "bail-tan".

the only formations we have is the WD image. The rules glossary leak is on natfka, dakkdakka, bolter and chainsword, and some archived /40kg/ threads

> Implying rocket tag is "Strategy"
Nigga, get those dicks out of your mouth. Eldar don't need strategy so much as "everything I point at automatically dies because Strength D outside of apocalypse games, RENDING EVERYTHING, and Scatlasers". There is still strategy in casual games, like my timings as to who I get into the mosh pits, where, and when.

A jetbike is literally less durable than a single tactical marine. By claiming they're gamebreaking, you're saying you can't kill a tactical marine.

They already have s5ap3 and grenades. I imagine hatred goes a long way to making rough riders decent

I imagine it's the respawn chance, letting them act like the suicide charge unit they're destined to be and getting their hunting spears back.

If eldar just point and shoot they will get rekt like anyone else. I could on and in about how retarded battle focus and bladestorm is but they have it so just get over it. Learn how to bait them out and punish them every time they show their coward faces in open field. Victory washes away all dishonour

>A jetbike is literally less durable than a single tactical marine
>t4 3+
no its not?

Since when are Rough Riders troops?

only troops respawn in a castellens detachment

Oh bollocks, I forgot about that. I was just recalling off the top of my head.

Yes because eldar are all just S:D scat lasers. how bout you dont play against faggots who arent there to have fun and find a player who wants a fun game?

they can also jink, so technically they're more durable

You know, when I get rekt by something enough times it pisses me off. Instead of giving up I learn what I did wrong and do something else. I've learned how to beat eldar now, and it's not easy but it's entirely possible. You two scrubs are a disgrace to the imperium

Get good. Eldar players aren't impossible to beat.

>Bro, there's a difference between "Not wanting to lose" and "Not wanting to play a game where I have a 100% chance of losing". Playing eldar is like a whole game of ROCKET TAG. They just automatically destroy every unit they point at with no real chance for me to fight back.

You suck. You are legitimately shit at the game if you can't even harm your opponent, no matter their build.

Also, I bet you don't refrain from playing against weaker codices, like Orks or Nids, which you have just as much if not MORE of an advantage of against than Eldar do against your Guard or Necrons or whatever you play.

They have S5 AP3 I5 on the charge, with 22 attacks per squad. Instead of only hitting 11 times, you hit an average of 19 times thanks to hatred. It goes a long way to making them considerably more powerful.

Where did you miss the whole "The only eldar player remaining in the entire state of florida" is straight up fucking incapable of playing anything other than Ultra-hyper competitive-competing for champion of the universe kinds of play?

Fucking nigger, the only eldar player within 1000 miles of me is the top tournament faggot in the entire state of fucking florida. He never runs casual lists, and always tries to defend himself by claiming that his lists are "perfectly acceptable for just playing for fun".

>There is literally one Eldar player in the state of Florida

At first I thought you were exaggerating for effect, but now you genuinely believe this: Shut the fuck up that's so fucking obviously wrong.

>Where did you miss the whole "The only eldar player remaining in the entire state of florida" is straight up fucking incapable of playing anything other than Ultra-hyper competitive-competing for champion of the universe kinds of play?
Thats your own damn fault. You drove out any new blood who could of been adjusted to the meta. You caused the only person who wants to play them to be the fuck who doesnt care about how cheesy he seems

>> "No thanks, I don't want to play against Eldar"
>And you win.
No, then you're a faggot.
It's one thing to boycott tourneyfags, but its an entirely different thing to boycott an entire race.
The fact that your actions made someone get rid of a 15,000 point collection should not be a point of pride, but of shame.
You are a massive faggot and you bring shame to marine players everywhere. There is more honor in gravspam gladius with WS bikes and gravhammer than your actions.
To boycott WAACfags can be good, to refuse to play someone just because they play a certian army is horrible. You bring shame to your chaoter and your primarch.
A true Astartes player would rejoice at the chance to crush foul xenos, no matter the odds, not run from battle because "boo hoo GW can't balance codexes."

Esspecially since are codex isn't exactly much better than the eldar in that regard

*our

>Where did you miss the whole "The only eldar player remaining in the entire state of florida" is straight up fucking incapable of playing anything other than Ultra-hyper competitive-competing for champion of the universe kinds of play?
>Fucking nigger, the only eldar player within 1000 miles of me is the top tournament faggot in the entire state of fucking florida.

By your own earlier admission, this is because you've effectively banned all other Eldar players, you colossal faggot. You don't get to ostracise people and then whine that there's only one left and he's a shithead to you, you absolute piece of shit sore loser assburger.

Get thicker skin or get better at the game.

I have to say Anti-Eldar user does make some actually good bait

>the eldar always have incredibly powerful rules since they're the good guy army that was literally built from the ground up to job and get slaughtered by other armies
Imp. Guard are a good-guy faction that gets shat on in the background and they have fairly shit rules. Orks are a bad-guy faction that always lose in the background and have really shit rules. Necrons are ultra-powerful in the background and generally have pretty awesome rules when they actually get a codex until it becomes outdated. Space marines are good guys who always win in the background and are generally pretty good in game. To be honest mate, I'm not seeing a coherent pattern here. Looks like power level has fuck-all to do with the background.

Yes.

> Getting buttmad about an entire meta straight up banning craftworld eldar.
Eldarfags detected. Just leave your army at home or pick up something more acceptable.

>Fucking nigger, the only eldar player within 1000 miles of me

No, they're probably just playing in small, private groups and clubs, because you chased them away with your hysterical autism.

Nah he probably doesnt play IoM hes probably this user actually

Daemons pretty much always win in the fluff and always have good-to-fantastic rules. CSM usually lose in the fluff, and they've had the whole gamut of shit-to-fantastic rules. Thousand Sons have spent the entirety of their existence losing to the same faction, and they've always had shit rules in 40k.

would people be alright fighting against a tau army if there were no riptides but several squads of specialised crisis suits, some fire warriors, *maybe* pathfinders, and then a tank or two, would that make people less pissy compared to bringing a riptide wing into a 1000pt game.

there wouldnt be a lot of models but each suit would be expensive and would have questionable effectiveness against horde armies, also would be extremely dependant on good reserve rolls and deep strikes.

>squads of specialised crisis suits, some fire warriors, *maybe* pathfinders, and then a tank or two
sure

It's riptides, stormsurges and several rather busted formations that put people on tilt.

riptides, stormsurges and retarded formations are what makes tau annoying to play against.

crisis suits are fine.

t. buttmad autist that can't win games

I've played whatever armies I like the fluff for, through the good and the bad metas, since 2e. You and people like you are weak.

Sadly it's not bait. I once shared his exact opinions, I think we all have at one point. That's eldar do to you, they break you mentally, and you either get rebuilt stronger than you were, or become a sniveling mess like him

>several squads of specialised crisis suits, some fire warriors, *maybe* pathfinders, and then a tank or two

Sounds fine, senpai. I'd happily play against it.