Pathfinder General /pfg/

I'm quite alright with Pathfinder Kitsune, honestly.

They've got a furry fox form and a normal human form, so at the very least you've got some kink in your midnight dalliances if you feel like it (unlike a "proper" Kitsune.)

Speaking of Kitsune, I'm kind of butthurt Nioh doesn't actually have Kitsune in it.

Oh it's YOU.

Tell me of your experiences with 3.5e players.

In this case, I've got some reasonable conversions of 3.5e material that I am thinking of allowing.

>DHB is a massive fucking weeb
Rate his taste

doesn't like exactly what I like/10

Looks pretty fucking weeb to me.

I mean, look at that list of anime, none of it is even remotely mainstream!

put Boku no Pico in and you didn't notice/666

>snuck in Boku no Pico/10

Too big of a list, we'd need more specifics, like his 3x3 to really tell.

>furry in that way that the media sees furries as.
Like this?

youtube.com/watch?v=yVUY3Qf64Gs

>forgot Millennium Actress/10

>Is your character a real villain?
She's a wraith who's of the opinion that undeath is actually radical as fuck so anyone who's not dead is obviously missing out
I think she'd technically count as being chaotic good despite being a mass murderer because she wants to help everyone.

>not watching boku no pico

>Calling people weebs on Veeky Forums

You do realize where you are, right?

Weeaboo is a trash-tier meme manufactured by Reddit.

All anime is trash

>Weeaboo is a trash-tier meme manufactured by Reddit.
It actually comes from a /b/ wordfilter for wapanese implemented by >who? aeons before reddit existed as a website

>You do realize where you are, right?

I don't even know anymore, user. We had a guy last thread who hasn't even seen Dragonball.

To be honest a lot of boards haven't watched shit for anime and will flip shit about using anime reaction pictures
That's when I flood them with smug anime girls

Urban myth.

Veeky Forums's an image board designed for discussion about anime and it always has been.

Weeaboo is a Reddit-made term designed to sow discord in Veeky Forums's community and draw away a portion of its user-base, by creating a toxic reaction to everything Japanese in the minds of most anons.

Legitimately can't tell if this is ironic anymore
Nobody said Veeky Forums wasn't a weeb board, but that doesn't mean that moot's wordfilters are somehow a myth

Stop using Reddit memes.

Veeky Forums is an image board made for the appreciation and discussion of anime and Japanese culture.
'Weeaboo' and 'weeb' are derogatory terms invented by Reddit and shoved in the community subconsciousness, just like how the Jews invented the Holocaust.

...see I think you're being ironic but I invoke Poe's Law.

user, I haven't seen shit for anime but I love the reaction images.

>It actually comes from a /b/ wordfilter for wapanese implemented by >who? aeons before reddit existed as a website

simpler, better times

And now you're posting using Reddit images.

Why are you even on Veeky Forums?

Why is a small child clinging to Aqua's leg?

puddi puddi puddi

Watch the latest episode

Lads, let me redirect this conversation to something more pertinent to Pathfinder.

Using the prices under Trade Goods, what resource would you want to deal in the most if a Merchant campaign cropped up? Now, I don't necessarily mean the most expensive, but rather the one you'd have the most fun handling!

That particular version of bait was created in an /a/ thread.

Life.

It's hard to remember it all. I've stuffed the experiences in the bad place of my mind. Let's see...

>Applicant posting long rants about how OP house rules are because xyz 3.5 feats that are fundamentally different like Improved Grapple. This was a Pathfinder game.
>THAT GUY thinking natural attacks could only have one primary attack with the rest secondary. Holdover from 3.5 where claws are secondary. Lots to say about him.
>Player playing a fighter>duelist who got baited into a duel and lost because fighter>duelist is garbage
>Player playing a core rogue with 7 str thinking he had to wait on weapon finesse until level 2
>Another THAT GUY who believed you could stack some (Ghost Strike) SoP talents together because of the wording and wouldn't take no for an answer.
>Various 3.5 players that lead me to ban Trip Monks, Summoners, etc for a long time.
>One that didn't understand counterspelling and was counterspelling a level 6 spell without a check when he could only cast up to level 5.
>General tendency to multi-class to a stupid degree
>General tendency to complain that shit like Power Attack or Prestige Classes are ruined forever.
>Heard of a friend of a friend who believed Wizards and Clerics were too weak because they didn't gain enough from the conversion to 3.PF compared to a sorcerer.
>Same person believing that Turn Undead is better than Channel Energy in any metric
>Seriously wtf is with 3.5's Turn Undead. You roll like 3 times and look at 3 charts.

Life is not a resource, You can not buy two pounds of life!

>being this new
You reek of faggotry. Lurk more.

Sure you can!

something something merchant of venis

I insist that she was not a trip monk.

Still, it seems like the problem is people with hangups on garbage rules rather than the rules themselves...

>Life is not a resource
What did he mean by this

You're a fucking idiot.

Weeaboo comes from the webcomic Perry Bible Fellowship, where it was a nonsense word that, upon uttering, caused someone to be paddled by his coworkers. Moot, back near the beginning of Veeky Forums's life (and specifically /b/), put in a wordfilter to mock those who used the term "wapanese" because he knew that Veeky Forums was purposefully designed as an anime-centric imageboard styled after 2chan; the wordfilter eventually was removed, but the terminology stayed and became more mainstream on the internet.

So, in short, "baka desu senpai", go fuck yourself and educate yourself.

To be fair, nobody actually used Turn Undead for its intended purpose; they used it to fuel various feats and class features, primarily Divine Metamagic.

Holy fuck you are easy to bait

Does Warder actually make sword and board interesting?

What disciplines make the most of a 1 handed weapon? I've been thinking of focusing on Cursed Razor, Iron Tortoise, Eternal Guardian, and Golden Lion. Which of these four should I drop though because I am unsure if I have enough maneuvers known to go around.

Cursed Razor

>people still fall for the PoW trap
Don't. That shit makes combat unbearably boring and shits on your party unless they do the same, and then your GM literally has to delve autistically deep into PoW to have any sort of challenge in fights.

>unbearably boring
Not compared to "I five foot step and full attack."
>shits on your party unless they do the same
Not everyone has to be all combat all the time.
>your GM has to delve autistically deep
Just give the enemies a counter and a strike each.

>Moot

Any idea what we can expect this year for Pathfinder supplements? 2016 was really sparse and I'm hoping 2017 is better.

Starfinder dropping in August.

Spheres of War

Path of Might, too.

Maybe for 1p shit, but 3p brought us Jolly shit.

Man I just want sword and board to be good.

Is Warder/Bloodrager at all interesting as a Gestalt? They seem to compliment each other well enough.

You want Warder/Magus for better synergy

So /pfg/ what role do you most often play in a group? The face? The leader? The skill monkey? The tool box? The damage dealer? What sort of characters do you normally make.

I have realized that I can't help but make skill monkeys in some capacity.

Melee fiend

Why Magus? Nothing the magus does seems to mesh well with warder.

I usually play A Character.

Magus and Warder both benefit from Intelligence, where Warder and Bloodrager are more MAD.

Magus and Warder both key off Int. Of course what you really want is Warder and Alchemist.

Warder and Vivisect Alchemist, ayy

Because they're both INT based, and they mesh really well I don't know what you're reading.

I play big dudes with a strong lust for life who like to see action and roughhouse, so I usually end up as the muscle. Happily, the rest of my IRL group then assumes I'm a dumbass who can be safely ignored, leaving me--the only player with a good grasp of the mechanics--to then curb-stomp any other PC's attempt to backstab the rest of the group.

I generally find myself playing the face; I'm a huge fan of charisma based characters as I love making a personable character.

Sneak attacking, self-buffing, shield using, attack deflecting, big ass motherfucker.

They're both after the same actions is the issue.

Alchemist is perfect, thanks.

It's still a problem shared by 3.5 players, and why people championing their 3.5 experience is a red flag.

>No one used Turn Undead
Yeah no kidding. What a nightmare. Channel Energy is so much better. It's why I'm playing a Dual Channeler, so I can fully utilize Channel Energy.

>Spheres of Might swapped the stretchgoals around so that the Gish book is now unlocked
Cumming buckets right now.

I mean, 2017 is already doing well thanks to Psychic Anthology and Heroes of the High Court being great. After all, WIS-based Magus that's actually good (and actually a Spiritualist archetype), Kineticist archetype that makes you a heavily-armored elemental knight, and BLINGOMANCER, ARCANE MASTER OF DOSH

Yeah, we REALLY wanted to do the gish book. There's some content that'll probably be getting switched around, some classes make more sense for that book.

I have 16 languages my character knows. He is planned to have been a student at a the University of Lepidstadt obsessed with ancient Thassalon who snuck into Razmiran chasing ruins and ended up becoming a Pathfinder.

Right now the plan is:
>Varisian
>Taldan
>Hallit
>Kelish
>Osiriani
>Polyglot
>Tien
>Azlanti
>Jistka
>Thassalonian
>Dwarvish
>Elvish
>Draconic
>Goblinoid
>Orcish
>Giant

I am really unsure of the non-human languages. Is there any languages I should drop or pick up?

Draconic, Celestial, Infernal, Orc, Elvish, are probably the most common non-human languages to pick up. Sylvan is also a good choice, along with the rest of the core race languages and then the outsider languages.

I grabbed every human language I thought was relevant. The dead languages was because my character is an archaeologist.

I think you're right though. I'll drop goblinoid and giant for now and pick up Celestial and Infernal.

I think dwarvish will probably come up more than Sylvian.

Sylvan is the biggest one you're missing.

Fey have a nasty habit of sneaking into situations where they shouldn't otherwise be, and being able to deal with them is important

Giant is important if you're an archeologist because ancient Thassilon employed giants to build pretty much every ruin that litters Avistan.

Celestial may be of interest but only one domain of Thassilon was powerful enough to enslave angels.

>t.guy who did a fuckton of research for his character concept

Thanks. As a Thassilonian specialist is there anything else specific I am missing?

I may drop Tien as well.

So the languages important to Thassilon research seem to be:
>Thassilonian
>Azlanti
>Jistka
>Giant
>Celestial
>Draconic

Besides this the smattering of human languages that come from Thassilonian may be important as well. The rest are just extra.

My players all want to be nature-based and essentially found a kingdom for the fey in Kingmaker. How do I let them down easy?

Don't.

Let them reap the harvest of their folly. Let them make peace with their end as the hour of twilight falls.

Why not just do a fey civil war?

NEVER MAKE A DEAL WITH THE FEY

The fey, even good fey, are beyond mortal understanding. In the same way outsiders are. They shouldn't have mortal-like psychology.

No, I'm wrong, they should be MORE alien than Demons and Devils. Demons and Devils were made from mortal souls. Fey just exist as something alien to mortals, a different path entirely.

Trying to forge a mortal and fey alliance should at best least to hardship and at worst least to madness. The fey are not something to trifle with.

Have pic related invade them complete with her GFW instant respawn bullshit and 100 ice spells / second danmaku bs

>WIS-based Magus that's actually good
WHAT
I must have missed this. Please point me in the right direction

I don't know what the fuck any of that means, but judging by the picture's aesthetic I assume it's from some anime that only you watched.

Quit wanking to "lol so ALIEN and MYSTERIOUS" fey/fae/fairies/faeries just because you read Changeling: The Lost or the Dresden Files and equate 2000s-era urban fantasy to real mythology.

Fey are supposed to be alien to mortals in pathfinder because the first world is full of strangeness.

Like I said, it's actually a Spiritualist archetype. But it's 3 pages long, and is pretty much a Magus.

How do you not know who Cirno is desu

I'd say that the fey would have divine-type psychology, if we allow that they're a reflection of nature. They'd basically be ontological in nature, something that is instead of something that becomes.

>Dresden / Changeling
You don't need to read either of those, but their actual lore in 'real mythology' is both inconsistent and decidedly inhuman.

The First World is the template for the Material Plane. Fey are the template for mortals.

If anything, it's elementals and genies who are supposed to be the most alien creatures, because they were never mortal and mortals were never based on them.

You don't see anyone furiously masturbating to how strange, alien, and ~awesome~ elementals and genies are, do you?

Okay, even assuming it's something more in the vein of, say, Stardust, you're still playing with dangerous forces. Fey in Pathfinder are still capricious on the whole, and the good ones do tend to worry about nature first and people second.

The PCs in this situation are going to be hard-pressed to reconcile all that while trying to build and run a kingdom.

True elementals would literally be ontological though, which automatically puts them into the metaphysical tier of existence from a philosophical point of view. In other words they're little gods unto themselves.

Anacho-primitivism and all that

>You don't see anyone furiously masturbating to how strange, alien, and ~awesome~ elementals and genies are, do you?
You should emphasize how different they are from mortals, just like you do with Fey.

They should be on the same level or more alien than fey. Intelligent aberrations should be up there as well as psychologically alien to mortals. Dragons should not be understandable by mortals either honestly, at least not on a personable level.

>but their actual lore in 'real mythology' is both inconsistent and decidedly inhuman.

No, it's... pretty consistent and decidedly human, actually.

The vast majority of fairy tales are cautionary tales to warn people against dangerous or immoral behavior, or moral parables to sway people away from being dicks and towards being excellent to everyone.

That's why the fairies in the stories go after disobedient children, dickish misers, or whatnot and reward the humble shoemaker who consistently pays his hired fey-employees.

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