Are the Tyranids the only good guys in Warhammer 40k?

Are the Tyranids the only good guys in Warhammer 40k?

From what I remember they are driven by an animalistic instinct to just consume, and there is no good or evil in nature. Their contenders are:

Necrons - automatons to evil gods

Chaos - self explanatory

Imperium - giant fascist empire that treats its subjects like shit and enslaves them to follow a corpse or more accurately the high lords

Tau - supposedly space communists (good) but are more like space Stalinists who treat other non-Tau as second class citizens and are under mind control via ethereals

Orkz - fighters that know what they're doing (fighting, looking for a fight, etc) and just want to fight because why not lul

Eldar - space faggots willing to let anyone die to save even one of their faggot members so he can participate in the blowbang later

That's all the major factions, right? I don't think I am missing anyone and lumping some together is justifiable.

So, Tyranids are the good guys, yeah? The goodest of all the other races.

t. Hive Mind

Farsight Enclave Tau, Salamander Space Marines, and I'd say that most of the imperium is based on well intentioned extremism

No.

The idea that there is no good or evil in nature is fucking boring.

If there is no good or evil in nature, how can they be the good guys?

No. The only good guys in the universe are the Salamanders. If they were in charge, we'd have all the different factions living together in total harmony. Xenos, Chaos, and Human would lose all meaning. We'd all be one race.

>Are the Tyranids good?
>After all, they're driven by instinct that is neither good nor evil.

>Are these guys that are not good good?

Please just kill yourself.

>Necrons - automatons to evil gods

Not any more.

>Tyranids
>would extinguish all life in the galaxy and convert all usable matter into sacrificial pawns for a ravenous hive mind

>Orkz
>would fill the entire galaxy with vibrant ecosystems and all sentients would have the time of their lives fighting each others eternally, basically Valhalla on Earth
Well it won't be so utopic for gretchin I guess, but I think they still prefer that to being devoured outright.

>...space communists (good) but are more like space Stalinists...
>Imperium - giant fascist empire...
>Eldar - space faggots willing to let anyone die to save even one of their faggot members...

Communism is good?
Stalinism isn't communism?
Fascism and empires are evil?
Protecting your own race is evil?
An all-consuming entity of nothing but hunger, destroying all culture and replacing it with 'animalistic instinct' is good?
(Overlooking the fact that the hive mind is sapient)
(Also, necrons do not serve the c'tan and if the tyranids are good then the c'tan are too)

This shit is fucking Cthulhu death cult ways of logic.

It's correct, but also wrong. The Tyranids are just a precursor to something MUCH-MUCH worse that's been attracted to the 40k galaxy.

They're just followers with no will of their own, their aims are detrimental to all but intentions are innocent, pure and honest, those that seek to enable them however are subject to human labeling of evil and the like.

When the Great Old one comes to town the Alignment system is thrown in the fucking bin where it belongs, it is the purest definition of existence brought to the highest concepts of following the natural order to it's peak, no good or evil, for it is more and knows more, and it isn't in capacity for you to process or understand, because you didn't evolve the brain functions for it, higher perception of colour, geometry, and more out the spectrum of lesser biology, it was made and born from the ultimate environment and is adaptable in ways that break any fundamental puny science that can't even auto-correct.

This is why they work through proxies and servitor races, because any question posed to these beings is like asking more questions than the entirely of mankind's history with a statement which could be considered simple, it's a layer upon layer of total utter superiority, wisdom and intelligence what shits over everything you are and what you do, so they learned to not enable it in the slightest.

You know how you drop dead cellular matter ever second or so? These things do that too, except those "cells" just became an innumerable precursors to a number of organisms that could very well spawn their own species in record time, if the process of fission isn't underway and it's vibrating through layers of geometry, space, time and perceptive dimensions out of human perception, basically lagging life into existence.

There is no meaning in the universe, but creatures as such are effectively the contenders for a "decent counter argument."

Good and bad are spooks.

>It's correct
>this race is neither good nor evil
>that means it's good

It's not correct, it's retarded.

>What is extremism
>Especially in W40k flavour

Chaos are the only good guys.

Spooky

Explain your reasoning

>imperium is fascist and mean!

user, those sound like moralist spooks to me, you're not really good at the whole Stirner thing.

>communists (good)
Don't exist.

>i don't believe in equality

There's believing in equality, and then there's believing in it so hard you'd stab your friends in the back to seize power and enforce your narrow vision of it at the end of a gun. Never trust a Marxist, user.

That's not really Marxism then. You don't stab your comrades in the back! You shoot them when their backs are to the wall if they're fascists.

>Salaniggers
>good

>You don't stab your comrades in the back!

Tell that to all those historical Marxists and the people they betrayed then.

>implying equality is good

>communism
>equality
You misunderstand communism.

Explain.

well at least you aren't a tau moral fag here to tell me about the greater good. We have one of those at my shop, won't shut up about how the rest of us are terrible people and we should feel bad for playing evil armies.

There is no truly good force in 40k. While the Tyranids may have no concept of good or evil consuming all life in front of them is just genocide which is bad. If anything that makes them the most evil of all the factions. Also the necrons aren't slaves anymore. They turned on and imprisoned the C'tan.

Good and Evil are a spook

I'm not that guy but communism is a fundamentally flawed ideology, it's literally impossible to uphold without forcing everyone into the same ideals which go against the very nature of our being, and gulaging and killing any dissenters. Otherwise the whole fucking thing falls apart.

In addition, there's ALWAYS got to be someone at the head of authority to direct people and resources around, and they will naturally steer resources towards their own pockets, because this is the way the human mind works.

>muh human nature

Jesus wept

Hey manes

Is Goliath tarantulas really the good guys?

The Tau are not Communist it is a caste system with an established hierarchy and are big on eugenics, equality is not a concept in their society it is that every member of society must forgo the self in favor of the "Greater Good".

Nurgle is the only good guy. He loves everyone unconditionally, even if he might not be the best at expressing it.

Fuck off globalist

>From what I remember they are driven by an animalistic instinct to just consume
You are incorrect, tyranids are driven by the desire for continuous self improvement and the betterment of life itself. They are concerned entirely with creating as much tyranid life as possible and for that life to be the best it can be.

Truly the tyranids are the purest and most noble faction, as is evidenced by the fanatical loyalty they inspire in their human followers.

>Imperium - giant fascist empire that treats it's subjects like shit and enslaves them to follow a corpse or more accurately the high lords

Under the circumstances the Imperium is doing the right thing, if freedom means daemons raping the entire planet to death than it's not really worth it.

Weenie.

Fuck those demons, fuck the Imperium, fuck everything. Interex were too good to survive the grimderp writer's pen.

The imperium isn't exactly fascist, because it spans between star systems and individual planets vary dramatically in how they are governed it defies comparison with modern political movements.

And really it isn't doing the right thing, it's a bureaucratic nightmare that generates huge amounts of waste and needless death and suffering, due to a combination of the difficulty of managing an interstellar empire, but also an ingrained resistance to the idea of changing anything, independent thought and honest inquiry.

It's not doing "the right thing" it is doing "A thing that just barely works at the expense of the needless death and suffering of billions" and maintaining that thing without attempting to change or improve it.

Don't forget that the Imperium's incompetence and idiocy is feeding chaos on a daily basis.

The concept of spooks is a spook.

Is he wrong?

i don't think stirner would like 40k land much because spooks are literally real there, they come out of the warp and do shit even.

There were a few good communists.
By the end of the 20th century, there were roughly 100 million of them.

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I agree with you user.


In Stirner's work, a repeating motif to come up is satisfaction of one's ego (note, this was prior to Freudian and Jungian interpretation). That if one acts to please oneself, the whole world (or at least your experience thereof) becomes better. This is not to say the crass hedonism of slaanesh, though Stirnerite egoism can lead that way, nor is it the boundless fury of khorne, as one might become if frustrated with the endless stupidity or unwillingness to act of others.
Neither is egoism the nihilistic optimism of nurgle, though an egoist could lean that way, nor is it the planning and plotting and hope of clear plans working out of tzeentch.
Egoism is however the exultation and experience of oneself. Each that does not effect you is a spook, a fiction designed to subsume your own indivisible ego, this 'emperor' is naught but fictive shackles to bind your mind, these rituals are chains, but only chains as real as you let them be.
Egoism allows one to be utterly, completely, and paradoxically both selflessly and altruisticly selfish.
In focusing on oneself, one leads the path to chaos.

And sure, much of the fiction we have about wh40k is of exceptional individuals, but is that not the goal? To rise above those spooks and shackles that hold you down? What if the only way to be exceptional is to fall? but alsho, what if the opposhite ish true?

With the current fluff, there will be some form of mustache twirling hive cunt, sentient and evil in his controlling of the Nids

You should expect /leftypol/ opinions from Max Stirner OP.

>People act shitty - therefore the ideology they lied about being a part of is also shitty.
Nice b8 m8

>having strong convictions is evil
Might as well just let every evil go unpunished since it would be rude to impose your narrow vision of good.

Tyranids aren't evil like chaos or dark eldar where they enjoy suffering. But the hivemind isn't an animal, its intelligent beyond measure and certain individuals who have linked with it temporarily claim it has infinite hunger and seethes with hatred

Well this is a huge load of shit, being "true to oneself" and "doing what you like" doesn't make you a good guy if you inflict endless agony on others and cause countless deaths because you are a sadistic evil cunt

This post is a spook

/leftypol/ is getting better at this

This is 40k, there's no such thing as "good guys"