Is there any RPG that accurately represents the horrors of socialism?
I'd especially like to focus on the modern horrors of socialism, like what is happening right now in my country, Venezuela.
I've never seen an RPG that really allows us to fight back against the type of thing we are going through. Even though they would put us to death if we tried to resist in real life, it would be good to fantasy it once it once in a while.
Thank you Veeky Forums
Mayhaps, it is your fate to write such an RPG?
That's more of a DM narration thing. Depict a storyline about something else, then there's societal collapse and the government makes everything far worse. Its up to the DM/GM/ST to provide atmosphere.
FATAL
Paranoia is a game about living in a dystopian underground bunker controlled by a Friendly and Helpful computer. Fun is mandatory for all Troubleshooters.
Whether you could reskin it into Venezuela is your own challenge.
GURPS
I can try but I am not an expert in English
Is there no RPG about fighting back against evil government soldiers that rape your family and steal your money?
I do not know the better terms to search for with google about it. I tried searching for Communism RPG and Socialism RPG but I only got communism and socialism propaganda from Marx.
Technically speaking, Paranoia fits the bill. The Player Characters are Troubleshooters (their job is to find trouble and shoot it) working for Friend Computer in order to hunt down all the mutant, communist, traitors lurking about in society.
The setting is far enough into the future that highly advanced genetic engineering has turned everyone into mutants, all the means of production are collectively owned by the working population and resources/jobs are distributed via need and skill, and everyone is part of various secret societies all bent on the traitorous goal of destroying or modifying Friend Computer.
Paranoia has humor details. Our situation is not a laughing stock, believe me.
There is a single page RPG system where all the players are stuck on an island and are to be killed in order to be consumed by distant and uncaring overlords. I can't remember the name of it but you might be able to make it fit.
>>Mayhaps, it is your fate to write such an RPG?
>I can try but I am not an expert in English
ah si ah si because only English readers can play an RPG. Looks like your clever disguise fell off, Mr. Troll.
No, not specifically. If you're that interested in making it happen just play something like Chronicles of Darkness and flavor all the weird supernatural shit as highly advanced technology that the Statists have stolen from overtaxed and overworked corporations just trying to abide by the Non-Aggression Principle and provide an optimum quality of goods and services to their customers at prices dictated by market demands.
>Our situation is not a laughing stock
Suuuuuuuuuure.
The Straight playstyle of Paranoia XP strips out a lot of the humorous elements.
My country and most of my continent does not afford RPGs. I play English games and read English books mostly.
Don't be insulting.
So what you're saying is that there is an untapped market for low-cost, Spanish language RPGs?
I wish more people could afford it. :(
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I played 4e online with a Peruvian a few years ago. He was pretty cute.
Who cares this is fun
It is illegal in my country to be homosexual, so all the work camps are filled with child rapers.
What's that one indie RPG where you play on a "post scarcity" spacestation and the currency is facebook likes?
Play that.
paranoia?
Yes it is.
it *is* a good chunk of the market appeal
Paranoia, perhaps.
>the whole continent excepting post-Pinochet Chile is considered a joke by the world
>Our situation is not a laughing stock
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Y'know what, I'm ready for nuclear Armageddon now. We have clearly failed as a species.
>We
No, not we. Socialists. Leftists. They have failed as a species. Not us.
Welcome to Veeky Forums newfriend.
>cyberpunk digital currency being used to fuck over government and corporate enslavement
>failed
Fuck that
True, even for us.
What's wrong with Democratic Socialism? Numerous studies over the years show that countries that have democratic socialist governments and programs are more stable, happier, have better health care at lower costs and more. Just because a party calls itself socialist or communist does not make them so. Look at Venezuela - A big issue with them is that the government is corrupt and inept and their parties are agglomerating power for power sake. Then you look at Denmark which is a happy, healthy democratic socialist government that is actually freer than the US in almost every single regard. Sure, they pay more in taxes but the people understand and willingly pay since it covers so many benefits they all draw on such as healthcare, education, a free and open government and retirement funds.
What you should be focusing on is against corrupt and dictatorial governments, not socialism.
This is the type of propaganda they used to destroy my country.
We know user
We know
>What's that one indie RPG where you play on a "post scarcity" spacestation and the currency is facebook likes?
If you're OP... don't kid yourself.
South America has been immune to stable, non-corrupt Governments for centuries.
But we can't do things based on evidence user because it has a scary name!
Pathfinder
>willingly pay taxes
This always makes me laugh because not paying taxes means your are thrown in jail and your freedom removed.
There is no choice its compliance or else.
>Baaawww pooling money with my fellow citizens gets me better services than I could get by myself
>taxes is theft guys!
>better services
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That would be true if you could opt out with the only penalty being a loss of services.
Paranoia is the way to go OP. Just slice out all the humor and lay bare the horrors.
>Is there any RPG that accurately represents the horrors of socialism?
So OP, have you heard about a game called 'Fatal'?
Are you implying that The Computer is a communist citizen? That's pretty damn treasonous.
Spanish would be the most logical market to expand into after english, I'm pretty sure it's got the highest number of speakers.
>I've never seen an RPG that really allows us to fight back against the type of thing we are going through.
Venezuela isn't suffering through socialism, it is suffering through dictatorship. Don't confuse the two, a lot of Burgerstanians can't figure out the difference.
Racial Holy War.
Denmark is not a socialist country in any way whatsoever, it's social democrat, they're totally different. Why do so many people not understand this? You're american aren't you? It's a hell of a thing when a country can produce self-proclaimed socialists who don't have the slightest clue what in the hell is and isn't socialism.
Parano-
Damn it
>country that isn't actually socialist in any way and has it's defence budget covered entirely by a foreign nation is a good example of practical real world socialism
Stop getting your definitions for political terms from right-wing idiots who probably think that the Marx brothers wrote the Communist Manifesto.
>Venezuela
>Socialist
Pick one
Why are Veeky Forums so fucking red? Oh yeah, fantasy lands that can't possibly exist in real life, how did I not see the connection sooner?
kek
Veeky Forums Also worships Ayn Rand and Atlas shrugged despite the dumb shitstain living off social services and being laughed out of every economic think tank of her time.
We tried to vote against it. The government reported the vote wrong and then made the media lie.
That is called a "dictatorship" or "failed state", not socialism.
Wow, one of them is really doing the "not real socialism" thing
The fun people got bored of the thread, now it's time for "listen fuckface, let ME tell you how the world works" faggots.
Workable Eclipse Phase General description.
Venezuela is suffering under an ineffective dictatorship utilizing a socialist system.
>Veeky Forums Also worships Ayn Rand and Atlas shrugged
They do? News to me.
>despite the dumb shitstain living off social services
Well isn't her entire philosophy about how being selfish is a virtue? Get what you can, fuck everyone else, where is there anything about refusing free money from idiots? I don't think you really understood her philosophy by the sounds of it, it's pretty terrible.
>countries that don't call themselves socialist but are doing well are socialist
>countries that do call themselves socialist but are doing poorly aren't
God I wish I had a world view like that where I'm always right.
This. It's corruption you hate, not socialism.
I said democratic socialist. Reread my comment -
>Then you look at Denmark which is a happy, healthy democratic socialist government
>that is completely propped up by NATO and otherwise wouldn't be able to maintain trade routes or defend itself in any way
Social democrat, not democratic socialist. They're not socialists, the two terms do mean different things. READ A FUCKING BOOK.
Keep raging against the death of the American Empire. You'll either die in a fractured country, or live long enough to see European Social Democracy take over.
Either way, it must suck to have failed as an Empire so quickly.
Why not accept that corruption is part of Humanism? Lets you hate socialist and fascists.
It's a super-corrupt kleptocracy and dictatorship.
Socialism is a perfectly reasonable way to allocate emergency resources to the extremely poor.
That's failed in this case because there's a bunch of communist controls on the market there and it's all being used to rob everyone and at every level there's corruption that reduces efficiency of an already inefficient system.
>the death of the American Empire
What the fuck are you talking about?
>to see European Social Democracy take over.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 10/10 good troll user I had you wrong, keep up the good work.
>Our situation is not a laughing stock
You have got to be trolling. What kind of respone did you honestly expect?
Do you honestly think Denmark needs to protect itself from anyone? Germany is a friend, the other Scandies love the Danes in a retarded little brother kind of way.
Oh, and the world isn't in the medieval times when war was declared every monday. Although even in those times Danes did just fine.
What has America done for the world recently? Germany and China are on the rise, while the American government can't even maintain the legitimacy and security of their own elections.
There you go.
Everything is free, the only resource is social capital, play it as a socialist dystopia and do whatever it takes to earn them facebook likes.
You can, it's called emigrating.
What like Little Bow-wow?
>accurately represents the horrors of socialism?
Yeah, not being bankrupted going to the doctors office for Bronchitis sure is a hellish reality to live in.
I don't know how 90% of the western world survives.
>implying you would be any better off if Venezuela was capitalist
>He bought the revisionist lies perpetuated by his corporatocracy
Wow nice going, Steve burger.
This.
At the rate things are going, I assume Europe is much more fucked than the US is. The people in Europe are both weak in spirit and in body.
>Go into doctors about your problem
>Uh ok we'll schedule a consultation
>3 month wait
>Hm ok here's some paracetamol come back if it doesn't work
>3 month wait because it doesn't fucking work
>Oh uh I guess we can do some tests
>Turns out you have problem x
>Had we caught this earlier it would have been fine but now we need to do expensive shit
>Btw that's a 2 year waiting list lol
>Die
That's my countries social healthcare, and it's considered pretty good. People who wank on about social healthcare either
>Live in a country without it and think it's fucking magic
>Live in a country with it and have never had to use it except for flu shots
It's a hard situation. The oil pretty much has to be nationalized or the whole country is going to be a poor as fuck petrostate, but with crashing oil prices the socialist programs that supported much of the country are falling apart. They were stupid and inefficient systems to begin with and with the cash crunch they can't keep working at all.
Frankly they should have just paid everyone dividends from the oil profits and let them buy shit. The cash crunch would still hurt a lot but they wouldn't have the shitty problems of the controlled basic markets.
>The people in Europe are both weak in spirit and in body
Good bait. Guaranteed replies.
>The people in Europe are both weak in spirit and in body.
And America is a bastion of health and fitness.
The US has socialist health care for people under 18 and over 65. It's a stupid system. But it also works perfectly well and health care eaislly matches demand.
Also, like 80% of our health care is socialist anyway because it's fucking old people.
European social democracy will either be ISIS or Nazis by the end of the century. It's taking over jack shit.
>What has America done for the world recently?
War and destabilization?
I'd be chill with a big space rock or a 100% fatality biological meltdown. Anything that gets the job done really.
We also normalized digital espionage and assassination by drone.
Nice try, but only Americans think Socialized medicine works like that.
If it is serious, you get the procedure. For free.
Not to mention in America the situation would go:
>Have problem
>Don't have good health insurance, don't go to doctor. Die
>Have health insurance. Go to doctor. Can't afford procedure. Die.
>Sells house to pay for procedure. Live for a year, then die destitute in an alley.
America is the only first world country in the world where minor medical issues are death sentences.
>poor guy is asking if there are any rpgs where he and his buddies can pretend to be the rebel alliance against a government like the socialist nightmare that has destroyed his country
>thousands of spoiled bratty american wannabe commies flood in and start screeching and trying to do damage control
Wow... really makes you think
>Gets pissed because the world policemen is drunk on the job and isn't keeping everything as safe and profitable as they have been for the last century
Fuck you, we get to have wacky bullshit problems too
What, don't like having to share your board? Now you know how we feel. :^)
I think he was just talking about the fact that's how taxes work. You pay them or they throw you in prison.
A weak spirit and weak willpower. You Europeans pretend to be the bastion of tolerance, stabbing yourselves as proof of your own greatness. In the end, that's weakness that will be abused by your enemies. I hope you become more tolerant and embrace the religion of peace.
To be fair we already gave him some solid recommendations. We're probably gonna get merged with /jp/ or something in a sec anyway might as well act like dipshits.
>America, where even illegal immigrants get the finest healthcare in the world for free has bad health care that kills you
>Socialist systems with literal death panels are clearly the answer
Oh you commies, just can't possibly go one post without mortifying yourselves
>socialist nightmare that has destroyed his country
Confusing socialist with dictatorship. Must be a burgerstanian.
You will be amazed how hyperbolic are reactionary venezuelans
What exactly is Japans economic model? I mean they are a collective society but they dont seem to be socialist or communist.