What would the classes be of a Japan-inspired fantasy game besides samurai and ninja?

>Barbarian
Ronin
>Fighter
Ashigaru
>Bard
Sage
>Paladin
Samurai
>Warlock
Can't think of one
>Cleric
Miko
>Wizard
Onmyoji
>Druid
Can't think of one
>Rogue
Shinobi

That's all I got

the classes would be fighting man and monk

Samurai and Ronin could respectively be heavy and lightly armored fighter/archers with unique skillsets, the former being more useful for heavy combat, and the latter for skirmishes or dueling.

Onmyoji is analogous to wizard, and shrine maiden/monk to cleric.

Ashigaru can be something more focused around the usage of firearms and explosives, so it's not just another fighter.

For ninja, it's obviously rogues, and be sure to focus on their exotic weapons and tools, like the kusari gama and scabbard breathing tube.

Onmyoji is pretty neat

Its both.

>warlock
Youkai tamer of some sort? maybe a taoist monk?

Also, druid could also fall under shrine maidens, depending on the gods they worship.

>Paladin
Samurai

Way of the horse and bow.

Way of honor and sudoku.

When samurai fall, they fall hard.

>samurai
>paladin

Samurai were practically blackguards half the time. I mean the Satsuma Rebellion was fought so that they could keep the right to chop the heads off of lower class people that pissed them off.

Yamabushi works for druids I think. Youkai are more so forces of nature or wanderings spirits than things you can actually train. For warlock though, maybe some form of radical buddhist worshipper.
Paladins don't have to be LG. A great paladin plays it LN.

My point is, much like how a lot of people in Europe wouldn't trust a knight as far as they can throw them, the samurai were much the same to anyone they weren't explicitly loyal to.

No just no. Just let the weeb die.

Yes but reality and fantasy are two seperate things.
>weeb
You do realize that's not what the word means right?

It means get the fuck out of your cultural appropriating ass head and play the thousands of years of western history.

> cultural appropriating

I think that depends on the youkai in question.

In general, warlocks are generally people that make contracts for great power with less than noble forces. I could see an elder youkai, or one that possesses people looking for revenge and giving them power to feed off of that.

There's a lot of ways a youkai user of some sort fit the warlock mold.

I am not the one jerking off to the idea of getting genetically modded to be Asian.

Fun fact, knights before I think Henry V almost never died in battle. Oh sure shittons of regular soldiers died, but knights kinda had this rule to not kill each other. They treated it like it was all some kind of sport. In fact there was one famous battle where a knight died, and everyone was like "woah hold the fuck up, Larry died, this isn't cool, everyone stop". They had a funeral, both sides mourned.

Meanwhile, the battlefield was strewn with the corpses of regular soldiers.

Except that making deals with youkai isn't a huge part of Japanese/Shinto folklore. Making pacts with otherworldly beings is moreso a Buddhist idea than a Shinto one.

It isn't huge, but to say it isn't there would be fallacious. And last i checked, warlocks are supposed to be rare. And again, many youkai feed off of those types of emotions to power those abilities.

Even a loose agreement or not explicitly saying no can lead to that kinda thing, depending on the youkai.

And lets be honest, some elder youkai ould likely do it simply for the fun of seeing what they would do.

I can definately see your point in that case. A deal with a kitsune would make for some interesting fluff.

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Do you have a name of the battle?

No and I need to look it up, I heard about it on a podcast.

What is: "Legend of the Five Rings"?

Sounds like a grand old time, tbqh.

How believable is it for a setting where civilized-but-still-competing nations settle actual warfare through honorable "wargames", with any actual, legitimate warfare being seen as the equivalent of a WMD, and the offending nation promptly having their shit stomped in.

Not believable unless you have some kind of unrealistic factor, like a god that stomps your shit in for it. Nations don't act honorably.

SKIB-BAP-DOOBITY-BOP-BEEP-BAP, BABE.

What ended it was when Henry V (again not sure if it was him, just the war lines up) basically said "fuck this games shit, I want the northern half of england and I want it NOW" So he demanded his soldiers and knights just slaughter the French knights without hesitation.

northern half of France*

>NPC tells you to WHIP IT OUT

So the plot of G Gundam?

>Not believable unless you have some kind of unrealistic factor, like a god that stomps your shit in for it. Nations don't act honorably.
"Hey, don't start building a proper army or else we'll all build a proper army, and then all of our shit gets wrecked. Just play by the rules we've all played by for the last thousand years"

It'd be a delicate balance, for sure, necessitated by all nations needing to be able to quickly muster their armies in response to build up by another, but I could see it working if they were particularly honorbound or traditional.

>Onna-bugeisha
I think I found one

aren't ronin just samurai outside of the feudal hierarchy?

there's a few particularly famous onna-bugeisha.

Nakano Takeko
Hangaku Gozen
Tomoe Gozen (particularly famous for being able to ride unbroken horse's with relative ease, not to mention pinning some guy and decapitating him)
And Tachibana Ginchiyo, later married to tachibana muneshige, one of the most famous warriors in japan. Despite her husbands status, she was no slouch herself. We're talking a girl that led the entire tachibana house from the age of 6, teaching all the women to intimidate visitors. She protected the rearguard of muneshige in the siege of yanagawa alone, with just her equipment and armor. She's pretty damn impressive, by any standard.

SCIBBIDY DOOBITY DABBIDY DAY

Yoroi Rider
Kijin
Kongohki
Onmyouji
Annelidist
Buddhist Monk
Shinto Priest
Kugutsu
Oni
Ayakashi

oni? that's a race, not a class

It is, mechanically speaking, a class, with its own class mechanics.

in some games races are classes

Anything and everything that fits your world.

Samurai and ninja are not classes (except maybe in the social sense), they are occupations.

Its a race thats in a class all its own.

A samurai could be a ninja doe

Get out of here you weeb.

I invite you to take a look at Fire Emblem Fates, in which the two countries at war both use generic fire emblem unit types, but since Hoshido is not-japan, theirs are changed to not-japanese. This is relevant because Japan made it, so you get a peek into what they think Japan becomes in generic fantasy.

Some curiosities out of it:

>Myrmidon (light infantry swordsman) becomes Samurai. Curiously, they can only use swords. They can also throw swords because fuck everything.

Meanwhile, instead of archers, they have Apothecary (薬商人 Kusuri Shōnin, lit. Medicine Merchant, which Promotes into Merchant and Mechanist.
Merchants get spears to go with bows and are REALLY tanky. Almost like what samurai should be according to Veeky Forums.
Mechanist (絡繰師 Karakurishi) is basically a puppeteer.

The Oni classes are humans but basically nature-worshipping barbarians. The Oni chieftains (Shuras in original) get magic.

Master of Arms is actually a weapon collector kind of a guy, based on Musashibou Benkei.

Basara is pretty much a wuxia monk.

"Great Master" is a yamabushi.

Yeah, I know what you mean. Those puzzles can be pretty tricky.

>all these people saying "samurai"
Samurai was a social class and is a fucking prestige class or track

The class would be BUSHI

Bushi
Monk
Shaman
Gokudo
Shinobi

cleric
but dressed as a shrine maiden and dedicated to banishing evil from this land, and calming the kami of the land

>CTRL + F "Geisha"
>3 hits
>All three of them are onna-bugeisha
Geisha are the bards of Japan. They excel at social combat and it wouldn't surprise me if they had a few sneaky tricks up their sleeves that allowed them to double as more "public" assassins.

What would the male variants be? Kabuki actors?

>way of sudoku

So, number and pattern-based attacks?
>if the enemy level is odd numbered, destroy it
>deal 10 damage times the number of days passed since this last attack was used.
>to use the ultimate attack, PC must solve a Sudoku puzzle on the table

Do kabuki actors constantly get laid? If so, then yes. If not, then they can be geisha (male).

Courtiers?

Also possibly Geisha (male).

Courtiers, maybe.

The "geisha (male)" thing, come on. you can be more inventive than that.

Nah, it was a thing. Well, more with actors than geishas, but Japan was apparently pretty gay for crossdressers.

>The local daimyo's is succeeded by his only daughter, an onna-bugeisha who publically disguises herself as a man and claims to be the daimyo's long lost son
>Her political enemies send a geisha(male) to seduce her

Bushi (fighter)
Monk (monk)
Shugenja/Yamabushi (Cleric)
Gokudo (rogue)
Shinobi (Ranger)
Courtier(Bard)
Omnyouji (Wizard)
Ainu (Druid)

Don't have shit for sorcerer

Orochi, Shugoki, Kansai, Nobushi.

Shugenga
Wujen
Kensai
Monks
Rhonine
Bushi

Just look at the various oriental adventures books.

Wu Jen is chinese

Ryu-Kyu pirate/corsair
Metsuke/Inquisitor
Ikko-Ikki Ashigaru

All subclasses or specialists

Kachi would be more appropriate if we are talking about them as though on a battlefield. If Knight is the social class and heavy cavalry is the battlefield title than Samurai is the social class and Kachi is the battlefield title.

shugenja is usually used for magic-users, i think. you can use sohei for monk.

Buddhist monks in Japan may train to fight but they aren't practicing things like Shaolin kungfu for the most part.

If you want a unarmed/martial arts weapons dude just call it Martial Artist(Butouka).

The "kill the men, children and non virgin women" is what javhe tells to the hebrews in the bible, it's a recurring formula that medieval people were familiar with and used often as a classic quote referring to all sorts of contexts, it's not an indicator of medieval knights' conduct specifically.
And no, the "reality of medieval knight" is not a non consensual harem anime game you turbo weeb.

>ctrl+f Yakuza
>0 hits

Bakana!

Who your FE waifu?

Any role a yakuza fills, another class specializes in.

It would barely work as a rogue or face, and even then, not particularly excel at it.

Grima.

Mangaka
Neet
Math Nerd
Pervert
Military Enthusiast
Sushi Chef
Heartless CEO

Kek

it's like the difference between a paladin and a warrior if you want to look at it that way.

They had tribes in japan that are closer to barbarian than ronins. Ronins should either be a prestige class for samurai or be a samurai focused on using less resources, because it works weirdly as a full career path on it's own.

So is knight to the exact same extent

More like the different between a Knight and a Man-at-arms

A kunoichi (rogue-slut) class would be fun.

The quintessential paladin is LG personified.
You cannot undo this.

Samurai
>paladin/knight
Ninja
>ranger/rogue
Monk
>cleric
Priest
>druid
Onmyouji
>sorcerer/wizard
Ronin
>berserker
Yamabushi
>monk
Ashigaru
>fighter/soldier
Nooh
>bard

Split tropes for more classes.
Ronin -> Wanderer (ranger) and Bandit (berserker)
Samurai -> Retainer (paladin) and Kenshi (fighter)
Priests broken into traditions: Ainu, Shinto, Youkai

>Mangaka
Cleric
>Neet
Monk
>Math Nerd
Wizard
>Pervert
Rogue
>Military Enthusiast
Fighter
>Sushi Chef
Bard
>Heartless CEO
Warlord

You are objectively wrong. Paladins are knights that work for the church and are by essence LN. The idea that paladins are LG is fucking retarded.

I'd replace bard and rogue, but otherwise, yeah. i could see it.

No, the quintessential paladin is *insert alignment of deity here* personified.

Not my d&d cleric.
Needs a New class.

Miko fits cleric better than monk (seeing as monk is just the old translation for miko). Druid fits yamabushi better. Ronin are basically fallen samurai so something like bushi (with ashigaru for fighter) fits it better. Can't really have a monk since its such an eastern idea and having it in a Japanese setting would be redundant.

Monks and miko are male/female variants of the same thing, but maybe you could work it in so that each excels in a different practice?

Actually no, miko are the assistants to the kannushi in Shinto shrines. Monks only exist in Buddhist temples. One solution an user had was to seperate the classes based on religion: Clerics are Buddhist monks, Druids are Shinto miko/kannushi, and Sorcerers are Ainu spellcasters. Wizards would be Onmyouji and Warlocks would be people who make promises with youkai. Monks are just so hard to do since they encompass so many Eastern philosophies. Maybe taosist warrior-monks or restricted to the Ikko Ikki?

Monks, and maybe Geishas

>t. James "Lawful can never be Good" Jacobs

nah not really. you're thinking samurai/ronin compared to ashigaru.

And no one else here is either. You're one of those fags that calls anything vaguely Eastern weebtrash.