I won't enter into details but my character made a chastity vow...

I won't enter into details but my character made a chastity vow. And so my DM created a situation of 'break it or innocents die'.

Will I fall if a break a vow to commit to another vow, 'protect the innocents whenever possible'?

Sounds like a shit DM pulling the worst possible cliche from the book of shitty DM ideas. Talk to him about his retardation outside of the game in the hopes that you two can find another solution to take

No, we need more details. Literally how does such a situation come about?

Sounds like a decent dm giving you dilemmas and actual decissions to make instead of spoonfeeding you a premade kill and loot adventure.

>Succubus BBEG holds a gun to the head of a nun
>'Suck that clit or the kid eats shit'

>I won't enter into details but my character made a chastity vow. And so my DM created a situation of 'break it or innocents die'.
Reminds me of that new Chapelle bit of a rapist who saves people.

You don't have to force the Paladin to fall to make a compelling conflict. Force him to confront his own shortcomings and doubts, not some hamfisted 'give me the d or the innocent gets it'.

>fuck this person or people die
leave the group

Slap your DM's shit and tell him not to be a twit

Rapeman?

>Hurr you need to have sex with this girl or people die for reasons.
>Break your role or break your role in a different way

What comes of this besides the player feeling lost with what to do and feeling like the dm is pulling shit out his ass.

Tell me if it makes sense, it's no different than if op said his pc is lactose intolerant and he either needs to eat a cake and drink milk or innocents die. Ass pull doesn't even begin to describe it.

Where the fuck is this relevant to the story?

>my character made a chastity vow.

Ugh

>my DM created a situation of 'break it or innocents die'.

you both should kill yourselves

...

>Ugh

What's your problem. What did a monk ever do to you, besides breaking his vows on you.

I feel like compromising yourself to save a life is a more selfless action than upholding a personal vow at someone else's expense. Selflessness and sacrifice are the cores of heroism, you can take one moral hit to your chastity for the sake of these poor bastards.

>Ugh

Found the man whore, aka the bard player

>Ugh

>wants divine powers
>doesn't want to abide from the pleasures of the flesh
Found the follower of Slaanesh.

I have to disagree with you to a degree:
Because on the one hand, i can conceive of situations where this could be an interesting situation that's challenging and could make for an interesting story but on the other hand i don't think OP would make a thread if it was handled well.

And to make my point here are two examples off the top of my head:
'Good'
The queen will help to get innocents out of prison if the chaste one impregnates her (a task the King is failing at).
This is the easiest and safest solution to freeing the captives, but not the only one.
'Bad'
A demon beyond the parties abilities to fight is summoned and hungers for live-force. The party can't stop him in any way, and either it'll feed on the blood of the innocent or on the monks seed...

Gonna need more info OP cause in a vacuum this sounds like your DM being a huge tool.

Welcome to the conflict of the best samurai stories, competing vows.

Is there any way to include weird sex stuff in tabletop that isn't a sign of thirsty virgins, wish fulfillment, or sexual tension in the group?

There was a pasta I read on here a while back that I wish I had screencapped, but I will always remember the tl;dr version was along the lines of: "A paladin falling shouldn't be treated like a slippery slope where one wrong move could send them clattering downwards. Rather, it should be treated like a cliff they are approaching, until they are standing at the edge deciding whether or not it is worth it to jump."

Yes but,
A: rarely
B: Not if it involves PCs engaging in it.

>my character made a chastity vow. And so my DM created a situation of 'break it or innocents die'.
I believe you.

>Ugh
Found the BBEG.

Okay I will explain:
>BBEG is a powerful sorcerer who has captured an artifact of mass destruction
>He wipes out an entire city with it to prove he means business
>Captures my PC and the pure princess
>Tells me he will use the artifact to destroy the kingdom unless I break my vow with her
>When I asked why I should trust him he told me to cast zone of truth
>Inside of it he gave his word if I indulge him he will hand the artifact back
>I ask him why he would do that since it's very powerful
>He tells me that seeing me fall and the princess being defiled is his greatest reward and that the artifact is useless for his ultimate plans
I talked with princess, she doesn't want to do it but she is ready if it's necessary to save the kingdom. I'm questioning if I would legit fall over this, since it's clear both my PC and the NPC don't want but are being coerced into it.

>artifact is useless for his ultimate plans
So it's safe to assume he has the power to wipe out cities anyway. Ask him if he will actually spare the kingdom if you comply.

If the answer is yes, do it to save people. If the answer is no, and you are all going to die anyway, stay chaste and die pure.

Yeah, that's some that guy / magical realm bullshit your GM is pulling.

My advice: don't play with edgelord, find a new group...

DM's a faggot, but maybe you should go through with it if it will work. Needs of the many. I mean, there's also the possibility you get Galahad out of the deal.

>vow of chastity
Yeah, no, 100% free to fuck that princess and still be within your vows. Chastity, which is the abstention of lust, doesn't actually preclude having sex in general, just having sex for pleasure.

If you had taken a vow of celibacy on the other hand, then would be a problem. But you didn't so everything is fine. You are perfectly clear to screw that princess, and if the DM tries to make you fall afterwards, then throw the dictionary in his face.

You. You're my favorite.

> the villain says you have to facefuck her

>Break a chastity vow or innocents die
Not only does it sound 100% contrived, but it also sounds like it's probably a magical realm.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that a vow of chastity as distinguished from a vow of celibacy means you don't have sex until you're married and then only with your partner, a reasonable request to make of a paladin of Erastil or whoever.
And since the traditional fashion of consumnating marriage is the wedding bed, depending on the setting's laws that would make you the new king consort?
But the DM is gonna probably nu-uh that anyways.

>But the DM is gonna probably nu-uh that anyways
Sadly this. Even if your vows don't actually mean what the your DM thinks they mean, he's already decided that you're going to fall. OP is fucked no matter what he does.

Sounds like the gm has a rape fantasy

How would evil guy even know if you bang? Is he going to be in the room with you? Scrying?

Monks have fucked around since forever and nuns don't lose their status uf they are raped.

Unless the entity you made the vow to is the supreme spurit of not fucking you should come out of the deal with more divine cred than before.

>suprumu spurut uf nut fuckung

>Why the fuck do you want me to screw the Princess anyways?
>Because your daughter will be the perfect wife for my son! I have foreseen it!
This would have been a less shitty excuse while remaining creepy as fuck. Even creepier, really.

This! Wed the princess so that your sex is lawful.

He will probably film it to masturbate later.

If I were a slightly creepier GM, I would steal this.

>Be prince of evil kingdom
>Dad is a total control freak
>Demands I shack up with the princess of one of our vassal kingdoms
>Try to go along with it and bide my time until I can lead a revolt

>Princess not interested
>An assassination attempt is made on me while I'm in her castle
>It's time.jpg
>Fake my own death, hide from magic
>Re-outfit and disguise myself as a mercenary for the vassal kingdom

>Start to help in the effort to overthrow my father
>Rise through ranks
>Eventually wounded in battle
>Female cleric saves my life
>We strike up a romance
>Promise to marry as the battles wear on
>Fuck you Dad

>Eventually complete the revolution
>Participate in the final battle where a party of adventurers helps kill my dad
>Princess married the Paladin leading the adventurers
>Receive a small title
>Marry the cleric
>All's well that ends well

>50 years and three kids later
>Eventually a royal courier comes
>Turns out the Princess had an older sister she wrote into her will
>Her sister is my wife
>mfw

>I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that a vow of chastity as distinguished from a vow of celibacy means you don't have sex until you're married and then only with your partner
If I remember, I'll post a blurb from the AD&D guide to paladins about the celibacy/chastity split.

TSR actually spelled this all out.

Is this a real thing?

If you want to fuck the princess, consciously end your vow of celibacy and convince her to marry you (might be a hard sell if you're an ugly ass monk). That way you get a hot wife, don't piss off your god (much), and do piss off the BBEG by fucking the princess without defiling her. Win win.

Best option is still to tell your GM to jack off alone on his own time.

Kind of a strange catch 22.

Why would you ever how your character get such a vow so pointedly if it's never to be tested?
As player and character you can just NOT do xyz because its in your character beliefs. But to make it a solid vow is to draw attention to yourself.

>It's for game mechanics, such as the 3.x feat.
If it's for mechanics then it's a weakness and your DM is exploiting it. Learn to live with that. DMs prefer hitting weak spots because the other option is usually just tossing higher level CRs are you. Which is boring.

I know you have probably seen this but, have your character litteraly kill themselves. The DM has put you in a no win situation, no matter what you do you will fail. When the DM and/or other players get upset explain to them that this is how you feel, if they would like you can retcon the whole thing.

>chastity vow.
>'break it or innocents die'.
This is so fucking dumb.

I sort of want to do this now with some sort of uber-cuck lich.

He kidnaps paladins and forces them to sex up his wife as he watches.

>Now spit in my face!
>What?
>Spit in my face and call me a faggot, or I swear to god, I'll kill everyone you've ever known and loved!

Fucking five star post

Now that you've given me all the information I still think your DM is a tool.

The actions of others are not your responsibility.

When the villain puts a gun to your dads head and says "rape your mother or your father dies"

you tell him to go fuck himself.

You do not dictate his actions. You do not accept the moral burder if he shoots your father.

Your only responsibility is to fucking take him out.

Well that's an easy way to cover your own existential ass, but your father is still dead and you could have prevented it.

If you are presented with a choice where you can save lives by breaking a vow, and you have done your due diligence and explored all possible alternative courses of saving those lives, then you have a moral imperative to break that vow and save those people. Accepting the sin upon yourself, even if it results in falling, and saving those lives is the only good choice -- and a truly Good god would understand (and possibly make you fall anyway, but that shouldn't bother you, it's a price worth paying).

If a paladin falls, does that mean he has to stop serving his god?

Depending on how strong is the faith of your character, you could try to save them without having to break your vow. You can fail but you at least tried to fight back at your DM's shitty railroading.

Suck that clit.
Only a shitty God would consider cunnilingus as real sex for the sake of breaking you chastity vows.

Just fall man, you can fall and still be a good person.

Just make it your new mission to hunt down the unjust gods who saw fit to create such a cruel situation in the first place.

DISENGAGE IMMEDIATELY.
GM's using you as his porn and that's nothing short of revolting.
Seriously, just punch him in the face or something.

problem is when it comes with a hefty mechanical penalty

and besides its always paladins, why is there never an evil overlord who goes "You, wizard, eat your own spellbook page by page or I wipe out an entire continent"

The DM is just using you to live out his porno fantasy and is probably getting a huge kick out of playing God.

Because DMs in these stories are always petulant /r/athiesm types.

Nah, just tell your DM to stop being such a fucking creep.