Young adult black here. How the fuck are you supposed to set up a lair in A SWAMP? Seriously, greens have lovely forests with caves and stuff, reds have mountains, whites have icy north, while we ... this?
Ok guys, how am I suppose to set up a stronghold/lair in a swamp?
Have half your undead army hold platforms up while the other half build shit on them.
Luke Parker
Put in on stilts or just have a half submergeged muddy hell where you have to dive from room to room.
Mason Clark
Well, you could dredge, you know, like irl.
Nigga, if you can't into imagination, just look at rl applications then make something vaguely magical to complete the deed.
Nathan Bell
Find one of those stereotypical giant "spirit" trees and either carve out a hollow portion to build inside or just make a fancy tree house.
There's always at least one of those things growing in a sufficiently big swamp.
Julian Morgan
Polymorph into a beaver and build your own lair.
Evan Thomas
>Young adult black here What?
Also stop actively trying to make the session devolve into Monty Python quotes.
Jose Wright
Just make a really big pile of skeletons and build your skull-shaped castle on top of that.
Eli Jones
>Young adult black here. Being an impoverished inner city youth can make feel building a lair impossible, but you can take solace in the thought that you, in fact, were once kings.
Henry Johnson
Adult white here, living in the cold northern waste is a stupid idea. And what's with these white power sites on the internet, I am the weakest of all of the colors!! You should be all Red Power and Blue Power. There is no white power.
Camden Fisher
>Polymorph into a beaver and build your own lair.
You know, maybe someone from /an/ could back me up on this, but I don't actually think Beavers will live in swamps?
I'm pretty sure they'll only build dams in a particular running-water-stream kind of situation so the water can back up sufficiently.... Though I could be wrong!(?)
Maybe Beavers DO build dams in swamps, they just turn them into lakes.
Blake Cox
Frankly, I'm surprised you can post with 6 int.
Leo Walker
It is Veeky Forums after all.
Literacy is not required.
Easton Brown
Fucking kek
Tyler Morales
The correct term is draconian-american.
Jordan Hughes
White Ranger in the US show was allegedly OP though.
Aiden Evans
>How the fuck are you supposed to set up a lair in A SWAMP?
Lots of stilts.
Anthony Wood
Dredging, stilts, barge-building, artificial islands, stone pillars...
I mean it doesn't take a fucking genius or a specialist to figure this out
Oliver Wood
Behold my mighty lair!
Guys, seriously. Leprous goblin could wreck this thing. It is not elevated in any meaningful way, nor hidden. It is not deadly or anything. For a while i was thinking of underwater lair, since I can breathe water, but ... swamps are just too soft for any kind of tunneling. I can go for a "cool stilty look" but any mountaintop is more fortified then this shit. Maybe i could just set up my lair deep enough in a swamp so it takes REALLY LONG to traverse such a distance by foot.
Brayden Morales
The real deadly part of the swamp layer is all of the shit living in the swamp. Nothing puts a damper on a party of adventurers attempts to kill you and take your stuff like leeches, carnivorous fish, sinkholes, and mosquito based diseases.
With a swamp, I would go with a very spread out lair built around the surrounding trees/mangroves/mud. Build tons of stick huts on top of it to make a false, easily targeted lair that doesn't actually have any of your rare stuff, and can be scuttled in the event that you run into people who can definitely kill you.
Isaac Taylor
Cmonn....all these are fine ideas for a goblin, but are missing the dragon-sized picture: The entire swamp is your lair. >stilts You know every nook, cranny, sub-bog, and inhabitant in the swamp, and they sure as fuck know you. Those stupid reds never think to hide their treasure, putting it smack dab in the middle of a cave. Fuck that. You are a dragon, you have people for that. >Dragon Hunters a huntin Have the local witches give them leprosy >Treasure Hunters a huntin Distribute treasure equally among the troll clans, knowing you can just melt them if you need it later on. Not like they spend it on anything. Treasure hunters tend to get tired after the 5th squad of trolls yields nothing more than 100 gp.
The Swamp itself is your real asset, and you guerrilla the shit out of it. You know what time the obscuring fog blows in, which currents carry dire pike, which mangroves are ropers in disguise. If by some means someone has the fortitude to get past the leeches, angry cannibals, and nostril-raping bats, you can finally have some pleasant conversation and catch up on the news before eating them. Fuck reds.
Luke Brooks
These two are really good.
Levi Bailey
First you gotta be careful of the poli- oh ohhhh
you mean you're a dr...oh
i don't have any advice sorry
Evan Powell
Keep building castles until eventually one doesn't sink
Owen Rodriguez
> Listen, lad. I've built this kingdom up from nothing. When I started here, all there was was swamp. All the kings said I was daft to build a castle in a swamp, but I built it all the same, just to show 'em. It sank into the swamp. So, I built a second one.That sank into the swamp. So I built a third one. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. An' that's what your gonna get, lad -- the strongest castle in these islands.
Owen Bell
..Is this from Reaper of Souls?
Benjamin Smith
Please kys yourself
Nolan Price
Ever seen a beaver home? Same idea. Nothing can get in that can't breath water, but you have a dry area for the nice things you take from the dead swamp villagers nearby. Also, pack the silt with animated skeletons for when something small swims through your tunnels to the living quarters. Don't forget guards and wards, glyphs of warding, and the like. GoW loaded with area dispel magic does wonders to cause the intruders to drown in your entrance hall. Perhaps even a giant croc or two, depending on climate, would be good.
You should be able to figure it out. Stop being an idiot.
Ian Smith
Good luck preserving the tunnels from collapsing into thick mud. Even better luck with just digging them. IN THE FUCKING SWAMP.
Joseph Martin
Pile logs, rocks, bodies, treasure up into the middle of the swamp, until you've built yourself a relatively dry, high patch of ground. Set up there, while drowning most of your treasure in the swamp, in a select few places, close to your lair. Good luck to anyone wanting to find your treasure. Would to have to dry and dig up square mile upon mile of swamp to get to it. Take advantage of your high position and the surrounding emptiness, with the solid knowledge that nothing can really sneak up on you and proceed to enjoy life, virgins and wealth.
Caleb Nelson
Fellow Black Dragon here.
Dude, your attitude is why we're the low-tier scaly horror of the fantasy world.
First of all, learn how to properly keep your breath for a good two hours. It's a watery environment, we're supposed to stay hidden in the murky depths until prey comes past. Even komodo dragons know this shit and they're not even dragons, for fuck's sake.
Secondly, you got big, strong claws and a pair of wings to boot. Basically you have 4 up to 6 shovels on your body. Start burrowing the shit out of the swampfloor and make yourself a nice underwater cavern. Use some of your magic (I hope for your own sorry ass you know how to at least weave a little spell you nigglet) to weave mangrove roots into supports so your underwater entrance doesn't collapse.
Thirdly, thickets. Adventurers hate thickets. As you hopefully built your retreat somewhere deep in the swamp, it won't look suspsicious if you increase the undergrowth around your lair, making it extremely difficult to access. Bonus points if the thicket is so strong you have to dive through the treeroots underwater, tons of trap options to just drown the shit out of those who can't keep their breath for 2 hours.
Fourth, incorporate . Your turf is where they die.
Good luck little Nigglet.
Kevin Long
>keep your breath for a good two hours Not having Immunity to acid, water breathing Making "caverns" in mud
Guys is this that whitey trolling again?
Luis Reed
fill the swamp with your minions and the whole place turns into a fortress
Aaron Cook
Literally false
Ian Bell
All I can offer is the most viscious entry hall my party ever encountered. Found the lair, found a small, ten foot pit with a tunnel on the side that seemed to lead inside and no other entries. Went through the tunnel, dragon head popped down at the other end, grinned and breath weaponed us all at once. The pits and tunnel held exactly the volume of acid in one good breath attack. It was a bad day.
Robert Anderson
Dredging just lowers the water level, it still doesn't allow you to build so much as a basement in a swamp, nor does it stop any serious masonry from sinking.
you basically gotta swap bits of the swamp for non swamp so you can lair in it properly, and then are you even a black anymore? Might as well be a grey whose "masonry" environment is one he makes in the middle of a swamp.
And ain't no one want to be a grey.
Cameron Wood
To be fair, living in the side of a large hillock or something that sits above the swamp a little, have a moonpool all murky and terrible in the middle that leads to an underwater entrance.
Nicholas Lewis
This is the saddest thing I've read on Veeky Forums in awhile. Wow.
Jayden Sanders
I dunno. I saw a Kendar getting /pol/ in a thread about the best color of panties for waifus.
Cooper Gomez
You can breath underwater. And you can breath acid.
Find yourself a tribe of lizardfolk and use them as slaves to build yourself an submarine cave.
Carson Clark
IN. SWAMP. IN. MUD.
David Carter
SOME
Ryder Long
BODY
Isaiah Ramirez
ONCE
Isaiah Hughes
ONCE
Parker Powell
fuck
Robert Morgan
> Muh "Monty Python and the Holy Grail is a requirement to get your geek card" meme
I've never seen a gatekeeper nerd that didn't act like an 11 year old, so I'll give the benefit of a doubt, but know you have to be 18 to post here.
Oh, and fuck star trek.
OP, bury yourself in mud and just nap until things with loot step on you
Hunter Smith
the city of rome was originally built on a swamp. they just drained it. world of warcraft's sunken temple is a good example of a swamp lair though.
Brandon Fisher
>he doesn't know about limestone forming shelves and Karsts in many swamps
Jordan Stewart
>How the fuck are you supposed to set up a lair in A SWAMP? My whole 6-million city is built right in the center of a fucking swamp. So protip: you need to dump stones and shit untill it stops being wet
Jaxson Cook
>he doesn't know about sinkholes.
Camden Cox
wow just wow
Xavier Thompson
I always just assumed that black dragons just sort of laid in the muck.
And maybe their treasure is, like, stuffed under some rocks that they keep in the muck.
Juan Wood
>the city of rome was originally built on a swamp Are you sure you aren't confusing Rome and the Pontine marshes, which were 28 miles away from the city which sits upon 7 hills.
Blake Allen
Stilt houses, famalam.
Mason Stewart
Their movies are pretty shit, desu. And they aged poorly, too.
Jaxon Rogers
>notechmagazine.com/2014/05/precolumbian-causeways-and-canals.html >Or maybe hydroponic floating barge-farms. This is the basis for an entire swamp kingdom full of loyal crocofolk subjects gifting you with statues made of bog iron, drowing invaders through a system of dams which flashfloods on demand, raise your living palisades of thorny hedges and breed all the bats and carnivore plants which eat insects. No one needs coal or wood when one can burn peat.
Besides, ancient mammals sacrificed a lot of treasure, weapons and people in swamps, chances are you can raise and arm an entire army of undead out of the muck.
Jack Taylor
Some brief generations later, you get pic related.
Jack Martin
No he is correct. The forum was built over march land drained by the Cloaca Maxima. Inb4 dragon lewds
Jose Nelson
Lemme tell ya. ya go on down dere inna bayou, ya go find a dry patch, ya cook yourself up some shicken gumbo and den it feels a lot mo' betta dat way. now rememba dats a lotta shicken so ya need a lotta shalt.
Kayden Perry
That was a lake tough, not a swamp.
Anyway I dunno, how about a boat? It's not rocket science.
Pic related for something a little more stylish.
Logan Gray
TOLD ME
Christopher King
>That was a lake tough, not a swamp. I know. But read the first link , and see how the aztecs developed agriculture capable of feeding thousands without draining the water. The island itself was swamp-like when the aztecs started to build on it.
>Anyway I dunno, how about a boat? I also sugested floating barge-farms, to sustain followers. But a boat does not a dragon lair make, unless it's the size that does not fit a swamp.
Nathaniel Robinson
Get out of here, nigger.
David Gomez
Live under a floating orc village, they'll act as fly catchers.
Connor Clark
Whites are literally the dumbest fuckers in the universe, if you want intelligence us golds are the first and last word in genius.
Jason Rivera
I can't be mad if I get slayed by a dragon hunter with leprosy. In fact, I'll cast a nice spell on him
Brayden Roberts
MEANWHILE....
Cameron Martin
...
Mason Gutierrez
RED POWER weakling!
Dylan Jenkins
Yes, but know what's under all that mud and muck? Solid bedrock!
Andrew Phillips
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Easton Perez
Also, consider practical necromancy. The bog can hold all the mummified corpses you could ever want to reanimate.
Joseph Stewart
>Young adult black here. How the fuck are you supposed to set up a lair in A SWAMP? Seriously, greens have lovely forests with caves and stuff, reds have mountains, whites have icy north, while we ... this?
>platforms
>stilts
>dredge
>on top of
>stilts
...can none of you breathe underwater?
Fucking apply yourself youngfags
>For a while i was thinking of underwater lair, since I can breathe water, but ... swamps are just too soft for any kind of tunneling
OK this guy almost got it. I'll fill you in:
I remember back when I, too, though that my lair needed to look impressive to visitors, before I had a hoard to protect.
These days, my hoard is fucking hidden - my lair is two hundred feet down, through the mud, carved into the bedrock underneath. The entrance does *slowly* fill up with silt, but not at any rate that matters, and not in the main chamber.
Depending on how high the bedrock goes and how thick the mud layer is, it may be possible for you to carve a small small tunnel to the water layer - this makes it much easier to get clean water to your hoard room than if you have to carry it mouthful by mouthful from above.
Brayden Cruz
>I remember back when I, too, though that my lair needed to look impressive to visitors, before I had a hoard to protect. >These days, my hoard is fucking hidden Why not both? You can have a pimping surface palace with some pocket money AND a super secret hoard lair with your actual stuff. Applying as a steward-vizier btw.
Luke Perez
Find a temple on an island and tear its roof off, get some kobolds to build a roofless temple on an island, whatever. Take some hairy midgets and force them to dig a shaft down a hundred feet or more, then get them to build a tunnel complex down there. Keep it dank and dark with watery gunk up three feet or so to dissuade foolish thieves
Parker Williams
>Why not both? >You can have a pimping surface palace with some pocket money AND a super secret hoard lair with your actual stuff.
Pimping surface castle needs to be in a different swamp or it gives away the fact that you have a hoard nearby.
Then you need to fly back from the castle to the swamp, giving away what direction your hoard is in.
The offer is appreciated, but rejected.
Luis Nelson
>...can none of you breathe underwater? Swamps have mud. I'm aquatic. That's water, not mud. Mud is mud. You can't breathe in it, you can't move in it. It holds you, it grabs you, it sucks you down. You want to know about mud? I know about mud!
Hudson Hall
It's easy. You pick a good swath of swamp, drop your treasure in the mud beneath the surface where it is kept safe, and sleep in the deepest level of your little swath.
Fuckers wont know what hit them. They try to sneak in and steal the treasure or kill me? There are zombies burried in the mud and they need to locate me, first. When they touch the water I'm gonna wake up.
They try to fight me? I'm gonne be underneath the murkey water. I can dig through the muddy islands in the swamp. There is nowhere to hide. They can't move fast if they're walking at the bottom of the swamp. They can't speak underwater. If they're swimming they can't fight efficiently, but I can. If they're on top of the water they will have a hard time locating me.
The swamp is GOOD. It is HOME.
Nicholas Nguyen
>All these posts saying he should rule the swamp like a king with armies of servants He's young adult, challenge rating 9, with a single spellcaster level.
At this point in the life cycle he should be content to lie still in the mud and pray Bob the level 14 kender wizard doesn't feel like building his own swamp lair.