Which Chaos realm is the easiest/hardest to invade and destroy/conquer?

Which Chaos realm is the easiest/hardest to invade and destroy/conquer?
Lets say the imperium goes 100% focus about invading the warp for some epic reason.

considering most of the fluff there is, they would literally all die trying or worse. most likely worse. it's just the narrative about the warp, there really are no 'crunch' figures about even moving in the warp outside of webway portals and ships, which are extremely fragile even though they are protected as fuck.

Doing this is immensely stupid against any of them but if i had to advise on the matter....invade tzeentch's territory.

Nurgle's, and only because it's the only one not designed to kill you the second you walk in.

Well, attempting to do so is certain death for everyone involved, so I'd go with Slaanesh.

You'll still die, but there's a chance of dieing from snu snu rather than by being eaten alive, exanguinated, or used as a still aware and eternally suffering component in some obscure Tzeentchian sorcery

Well first of all focusing 100% on the Warp would be outright suicidal given the fuckery that the imperium has to deal with constantly, not to mention conquering would do jack shit given its nature, not to mention Daemons (and that includes the greater ones, princes and daemonic primarchs) being at full power and unbanishable, which is pretty much your best option when it comes to fighting a Daemon directly (or inderectly, even).

As for the actual scenario, each would be all different kinds of fucked up and hard (but not hardly fucked up):

>Khorne: Legions upon legions of bloodthirsty, balls to the walls, incredibly pissed off warfare specialists.

>Nurgle: Good luck not dying of every disease and infection that had, does and will exist at once just by being there.

>Tzeentch: All kinds of tzeentchian fuckery, nuff said.

>Slaanesh: Everyone constantly being seduced to the other side, army falling in dissarray and fucking on eachother (probably literally).

>easiest
Ironically Khorne, straight up warfare
>Hardest
Tzeentch, infinite fractal labyrinth

The one the plot is okay with letting go, because all four run on plot to survive.

The labyrinth is easy, Draigo destroyed it repeatedly.

The problem is it fixed itself. But all four Realms do that anyway.

Alright, you obviously don't get what the warp is so I'll explain it.


Take what you think the warp is, that is what the warp is; now take everybody else's vision of the warp, that is what the warp is. The warp is described as "the sea of souls" for a reason; every being that owns a soul is, in a sense, the warp. think of your body as an anchor, and your soul a ship; when your body dies your soul has its "anchor" cut and drifts away. The neverborn or as some call them "daemons" are residents of the warp, they are like storms. when your soul drifts it will be found, and torn apart by the neverborn, like a ship without and anchor in a storm. The warp is every soul that ever existed and the neverborn are born from fragments of the grand amalgamation of human emotion called the "chaos gods" and are functionally immortal unless connection with the warp is severed and rituals are taken to banish them. the warp is everything and at the same time it is everything else, you can't describe it like you can a ocean. It's big, scary, and you don't want to get lost in it.

>Kaldor fucking Draigo
OH right that he exists

But does he really exist? At this point he could be considered a chaos god.

Draigo THINKS he destroyed it repeatedly. The fact he gets booted back to the warp after fifteen minutes in realspace means he's yet to escape it.

This.

Chaos only ever wins because shit writers.

If we're going off old lore before GW fucked up, Khorne or Slaanesh would be the easiest to invade. Slaanesh is the weakest of the Chaos Gods, and Khorne relies on conventional warfare to succeed, and the full might of the Imperium and Astartes would be more than enough to subdue him in battle.

The problem is the entire Imperial could easily take on one of the Chaos Gods 1-1 and win, but there's 4 of them. Their strength is their combined power of Chaos Undivided. If the Imperium invaded and destroyed Khorne, then the other three would invade the Imperium in the meantime.

It's all a horrible idea but if I had to choose which would end the least badly I'd pick Khorne because he'd fucking love it and forever resurrect all of them to continue eternally in the biggest bloodshed he's ever witnessed.

Kinda like he's doing with that one ork

Slaanesh is actually the strongest according to fluff.

I'd say that Slaanesh's turf would be the easiest to get into, but nearly impossible to get out of.
Tzeentch's would probably be hardest to conquer because of weirdo magic bullshit, but Nurgle's would be the hardest to invade because of the smell if nothing else.

Well... [Citation Needed]

HARD MODE:

What if the invading force were orks like when pic related did this?

Well, at least one person gets it. OP has no clue what he's talking about. Apparently neither do most people in this thread. You can't invade the warp. At best you are lucky enough to dip in and out before you are torn to pieces by raw energy.

Only way for this to happen is if BigE would turn into a chaos god, rose all dead human souls to undead daemons like LotD or saints and began a massive chimpout in warp. Normal, material beings would just burn there.
Easiest would be khorne, he relies on direct warfare.

I dunno, have Gork and Mork just tried punching a chaos god REALLY hard?

What is this about? Looks cool

You know what? I'd like to see the result.

Probably Khorne's realm, to be honest.

In Khorne's domain you'll have to fight legions of nightmarish enemies, but at least you'll get to fight them.

In Tzeentches domain who knows what will happen to you. You'll probably all die or turn into chaos spawn without even realizing what was going on.

Fighting in Nurgle's domain would be like fighting in the jungles of Vietnam, but a billion times worse with your biggest enemies just being the disease that you inevitably get.

Fighting in Slaneesh's realm, most of the men will get seduced over to the other side, and considering this is war and your men are sex deprived rapists, this can't turn out well for you.

You have clearly never seen Hellraiser, my friend.
We have such sights to show you.

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I think it would actually be pretty hard for the Imperium to invade a place that doesn't actually exist.

I would probably rank Khorne as the hardest to do any damage to.

Not only are you on his home turf but you are playing his game. Trying to make war against the embodiment of War in the 40k universe.

Yeah but that's the thing, war is something you can theoretically beat in a straight up fight, unlike trickery, disease, or lust.

But in doing so, you're only strengthening the realm. Making the battle valid, but the reasons behind it moot.

I remember there being info about Slaanesh's realm being something like 9 circles, and a silver knight getting all the way to the end, but then failing to slay Slaanesh. Where was that information from? Is there more detailing the realms?

>But in doing so, you're only strengthening the realm. Making the battle valid, but the reasons behind it moot.
Thaz why ya fights even 'arder den dey do!

The thing you're talking about is the lore in the daemon codex on slaanesh's realm. Whereas the other 3 chaos gods routinely try to "invade" each other, slaanesh's best defense is invaders giving into their desires. Each circle is some kind of test, generic resisting temptation sorta stuff. The knight resisted all tests and made it to slaanesh (the equivalent of out murdering khorne's defenses or outwitting Tzeentch's) but was utterly subsumed by The Dark Prince's awful glory. So standard stuff about how the faction in the codex is awesome and cool.

There's quite a lot of trickery and disease covered by war, murder and violent death.

That said I could also see Khorne just sitting in his Citadel (assuming the attacking force gets that far) waiting for them to run out of supplies and turn on each other to find out who is the strongest.

Realms of Chaos are metaphors, not places.

Different mythos, homeboy.

Who was the Ork Warboss that went on a waaagh in the warp fucking up different daemon worlds before landing on Khornes planet fighting a bunch of daemons flipping off khorne and impressed him so much thay he brings them back to life everyday so that they can fight and die to their hearts content?

Kaldor Draigo would beg to differ, good sir.

nurgle's, because burning a garden is certainly easier than invading a fortress, a labyrinth or an emotional death trap

Can you "defeat" a realm of chaos? I've never quite heard this dealt with effectively, that being that the warp is a reflection of sentient emotions.

Meaning-with Khorne, every time you fight, he gets stronger. So you're shooting yourself in the foot when you try to fight him. With Tzeench, when you try to outthink him, he gets stronger.

With burgle it's resistance and with slaanesh it's feel anything at all (I guess). Isn't the only victory condition over chaos the death of all sentient races? For example, if the ONLY sentient population in the universe were prehistoric humans on Earth, wouldn't Khorne just be a big demon man with a club?

Its like-Chaos feeds on our darker emotions, but perhaps the net positive in the universe of 40k is actually more or less the same, it's just more visible because there's so many more souls contributing to it. Does this make sense?

I guess I just prefer to think that Chaos isn't "evil". While burgle makes you sick, he also allows the billions of bacteria flooding your system to live, while murder makes khorne stronger, he also allows you to kill the man trying to kill your family. I don't know.

Tuska Daemon-Killa

How to defeat choas, in finality.
Pic related. Final victory of the Tyranids

>read up on this guy
>he caused so much damage in the warp that Khrone rewarded him with the valhalla treatment
>he literally crushed a daemon prince's balls

Holy fuck

Burgle

He's called Nurgle.

Why are you saying Burgle.

Why.

Phone.

This goes off the assumption that any of the Chaos gods could be permanently destroyed. I'm not sure GW has even gone into what happens if you destroy a daemon within the Warp, though if the landscape is any indication they probably just reform after a period of time.

There are two ways the Warp is shown. When it's being described as viewed from a ship and possibly a portal it's a bunch of colors and stuff. The other way it's described is in the Daemon codices and when mortals do end up in the Warp, in which case it's a mutable landscape, the portions of which that belong to a Chaos god being shaped by their will.

Even with all the flesh eating bacteria?

Mortals, with finite resources are going to battle the gods of improbability with near infinite resources and power in their own realms.

I'm not even a chaosfag and I know this is an unwinnable fight.

Just get more pylons and stitch that wound closed.

Tuska didn't enter the Warp, he ended up on a Daemon World. Still, since what happened later was due to Khorne being impressed with Tuska's Boyz, the same thing might happen if the ware to end up in the Immaterium, ie endless bloodletting and resurrection.

Nurgle doesn't want you dead, he wants you to be his disease container.

Actuallu, you really wrong. Nurgle HATES unwanted visions. It's in his index Chaotica and Daemon codex. Why do lie, user?

Most people don't last seconds in Nurgles realm. Like the 300 Tau warriors and genestealer cult that found themselves there.

He went to the Eye of Terror, you dweep.

Eye of Terror =/= The Warp.

That's new headcanon you got there. The Chaos Gods are eternal and self creating in the Warp. They cannot be destroyed and their daemons are infinite there because time there has ZERO meaning. So daemons from the past, present, and future are present.

Not to mention that daemons are at their full power in the Warp.

If you had enough flamethrowers, Nurgle's could potentially be the easiest. Just burn the fucking garden to ashes.

In direct warfare, probably khorne

Slaneesh and Tzeentch would be equally hard to conquer I reckon.

What would Malal's realm be like, i wonder?

You burn the gardens and then the hot air would take the spores and send them to you.

Also a lot of Nurgle's plagues infect you mentally. If are an atheist or have a lie in your heart, you would get infected and turned into a zombie.

Surprising enough, it is Khorne.

>Easy to invade territories
>Worlds based on fighting and wars, This means that a rather compentent and lucky non-chaos army can even cleanse one of his worlds
>Many worlds seems to be in decadency or are pure death worlds, this means that sieges are something easy for the attackers since there's no fixed supply in these worlds, heck Khornate worlds don't even create shit, if anything, these worlds must have self-survivalist or giga-espontaneous enviroment.
>Ranged weapons like guns are the difference between the poor and the mid-class citizens around there.
>They love invaders
>At least your death will be quick
>Combat psykers are scarce in his realm,to the point of abomination, so no mind-fuckery allowed in there, you'll highly see what's coming for you.

No chaos realm is nice, but if you intend to damage them,or at least think you are doing shit. Khorne is the way to go.

Since chaos relies on humand emotion for its strength, you wou

If you would invade Khorne's realm for example, all the slaughter would make him grow more powerful as you advance. The more you would throw at him, the stronger he gets. He would probably be greatly pleased if the imperium would attack his realm, for as you know, Khorne cares not from where the blood flows...

The best way to kill off chaos would be for hte whole imperium to collectively commit suicide, which would destroy the contents of warp also, or maybe have some way to not have a soul anymore, like the necrons did

What happens if a pariah/blank goes into the warp? Do they get shunted out? Or is the warp so strong there that it can effect them despite the whole "negative soul" business

>What would Malal's realm be like, i wonder?
If you can even find it, it would probably be a realm dedicated to stripping away any beliefs you had. All your faith in the God-Emperor, or your Tau Ethereal, or even the faith and trust in your fellow man would be torn away until no one in the military has any reason to fight on or to trust each other.

Wrong. Khorne's realm isn't the largest Chaos Realm in the Realm of Chaos because it's easy to invade.

Khorne's realm is full of battlements manned with incredibly skilled daemons and warriors. By the way, Khorne has more legions than all the other Chaos Gods. And they are led by Thirsters who are each a shard of his supreme mastery of warfare and tactics.

And dumbass, ever heard of the foundries of Khorne? Khorne's realm creates the greatest weapons of slaughter and brutality around. Using anvils that are created from the souls of would be invaders and thieves that enter his domain.

And not even Khorne would allow you a quick death. Refer to the Covens codex. Either you will be tortured forever by being violently savaged for all time or you will be ressed every day to fight and die for the amusement of Khorne. Either way, endless suffering is yours!

>703.M41 A MADDENING GIFT

>Seething after an imperfect regrowth that he judges to be a deliberate slight, the disfigured Acothyst Mydilian gifts his masters in the Coven of Twelve with a flock of Aelindrachi shaderavens. The avian terrors are well received, for though it is rumoured their caw slowly drives those who hear it insane, it would be seen as an act of cowardice to refuse them. Given the inherent strangeness of the Haemonculi, few notice that the Coven of Twelve are becoming ever more eccentric.

>A year to the day after Mydilian’s gift, several of the Coven’s senior Haemonculi depart into a shattered spar of the webway without warning. Their clarity of thought long gone, they plunge through a forbidden gate onto a long-lost crone world, rubbing their clammy hands in anticipation of having daemonic ‘specimens’ to experiment upon.

>Upon a plain of burning bones the Covenites find more in the way of Daemons than they bargained for. The horizon is scarlet from end to end with the footsoldiers of the dreaded Blood God. A never-ending cycle of battle begins as the souls of the Haemonculi are claimed as playthings by Khorne himself, denying them any chance of regeneration in their Commorrite lairs. They are condemned to an endless grind of unimaginative but extremely gory deaths, whilst Mydilian and three of his peers enjoy a sudden promotion.

Well, Khorne and Slaanesh realms are more about personified dangers (armies od Daemons, huge monsters, etc), while Tzeentch and Nurgle realms are more about environmental damage (sanity-defying labyrinths, plague gardens of death). It's all gonna end with death for imperials but if left with no choice to NOT do it I'd choose Khorne/Slaanesh to at least die fighting actual enemies

i dont think malal has a realm

he is the outcast god right? he just wanders about in the void of space being the insance antitehtical being he is

Slaanesh realm has no defences. If fact, while other gods hate invaders and unwanted guests, Slaanesh welcomes all into his realm.

The tests there are about seduction and temptations. There are only two beings that managed to get to the final test. A Silver Knight who failed and knelt before Slaanesh, and Archaon who resisted the perfection that is Slaanesh and refused to be her lover before walking away to continue his quest becoming the only mortal being in existence that refused Slaanesh (what a badass).

>Wrong
Never said it was easy
>Khorne's realm is full of battlements manned with incredibly skilled daemons and warriors.
You're still going to do what you came to do, and that is to kill chaos forces.

>ever heard of the foundries of Khorne?
>I make weapons so i must be the hardest to invade

>And not even Khorne would allow you a quick death.
Amuse him and he will make you fight Chaos for eternity or until you become so brainless that you'll become one of them. You'll still be doing damage to them. Your entire post is a literal grumbling retardation and you haven't paid any attention to what the thread is about, and its not about winning agaisn't chaos.

Well, he's still stuck in the Warp, so I guess Tzeentch beat him.

>>I make weapons so i must be the hardest to invade

Yeah, the best weapons and warmachines around in the Warp.

>You're still going to do what you came to do, and that is to kill chaos forces.

The best the Chaos realm has to offer in terms of combat and battle knowledge.

>Amuse him and he will make you fight Chaos for eternity

Doesn't work that way. Once you offend Khorne, his wrath is endless. You will suffer for all time and you won't become mindless.

>You'll still be doing damage to them.

Nope, even Draigo's fluff piece says that he can never do lasting damage to the Chaos Realm. The daemons that kills just respawn and the places he destroyed regrow and rebuild themselves.

And I am citing fluff which your post was lacking which makes you the retard.

>Tuska
>Draigo
>Any Red Raging blood angel
>Lorgar
>Khornates killing each other.
>Dark Angels comics

You're literally sucking Khorne's dick at this point.

Also:
>It isn't real murder if they respawn, even if them/you are screaming in pain and gore.

Whatever you say user.

>>Tuska

Died in Khornate daemon world, never made it to the Realm of Khorne on his own

>Draigo

A special case.

And even he was defeated by Nurglite daemons and tied up TWICE.

>Lorgar

He went sightseeing in the Eye of Terror. He didn't visit Khorne's Realm.

>>Khornates killing each other.

So what?

>>Any Red Raging blood angel
>>Dark Angels comics

What?

>>It isn't real murder if they respawn, even if them/you are screaming in pain and gore.

Daemons of Khorne know no fear and pain. You strike them down in their realm and they will raise again shortly and others will be drawn by the blood.

You are not getting anything accomplished other than feeding the lord of the realm. That's why Khorne's realm is the largest of all the realms. It cannot be successfully invaded via open warfare.

Hey you didn't felt for the murder shit nice, anyway, all of these fought agaisn't khornate daemons in khornate dominated worlds, even thought they can respawn you maded them back to the realm of Khorne or at least maded them lose time and feel dishonor in defeat, i bet can even daemons don't like to be "killed".

About Lorgar, he dueled a said champion bloodthirster and won, don't ask me how that's fluff.
And the Dark angels there is a comic of them losing their ship in a chaos world in the warp and fucking with the daemons and chaos worshippers in it.

>maded

Jesus...If you can't write English don't try.

Notice that none of these happened in the Realm of Khorne.

> that picture
> the bad moon

what

Slaanesh is definitely the easiest, because s/he is getting off on being completely dominated by the enemy army.

Up until the role reversal play starts, anyway...

I see it's on the rise.

Doesn't it say that you can't invade the realms of the gods unless they want you to? Doesn't Draigo want to fight them, but the gods deny him the chance?

But if we assume anyone can march into the realms, I don't know. I think Khorne would welcome conflict, and as such it'd probably be easy enough to get in, but after that it's an endless gauntlet to the end, filled with daemons and creatures who excel only in fighting. So easy to get in, hard to get through.

Nurgle probably isn't that hard either to get in and you can probably fuck his shit up easily, but as a god fueled by the endless cycle of life, your destruction only breeds new life and it wears you down.

Tzeentch and Slaanesh seem to rely on traps (ba-dum-tss), rather than outright conflict to repel invaders, so it all depends on the invader. Don't think Necrons or Tyranids would be fooled by riddles or treasures.

>they do this
>it actually works and outright permakills the chaos god (let's say Slaanesh just for the sake of it)
>all of reality has a record scratch moment over the sheer absurdity of what the fuck just happened
>the eldar/DE just scratch their heads in confusion, wondering why they never tried to get Khaine to just punch him/her
>the imperium are confused as to what to do now that all of the slaanesh-aligned chaos warriors are no longer under thrall
>the orks just laughed because they knew that would happen (they didn't)

Doesn't mean that Slaanesh is going to be fun sexytimes. S/he is still a chaos god. Hellraiser's horror comes from seeking sensation above all else, without limitation, which is exactly Slaanesh's shtick, making Hellraiser a good analogy.

Slannesh's. Too many penises.

Actually, irc, Tuska and his Boyz eventually ended up being ported over to the Brass Citadel directly by Khorne after a shitton of rezzes.

None of them. Each realm is essentially infinite even as it continues on itself. Even if the Imperiums somehow manages to invent hand held gellar fields to make immaterial into material, or go the Orky way by using the collective power of thinking they can do it. they would literally face a never ending tide of daemons. The Imperium is literally fighting their own emotions made manifest, and as long as they continue to think and feel, daemons will continue to form.

Why do you hate Burgle?

Wait guys
What if
What if
The necrons did it
They can be in the warp cause they really are inanimate objects.
And things like power armor can be in the warp
Then you just invade nurgle or something
The only one that would be really tough would be tzeentch

None, Chaos cannot be defeated, it's a manifestation of mortal emotions.

Malal's realm is a self ran internet forum about atheism, he is the head moderator, and you cannot invade it with traditional means. If someone wishes to access it without stumbling across it randomly on their cogitator's connection to the extranet or whatever,. then they have to use the library computers in the Black Library where it is on the default bookmarks. Once on the forum, you have to put up with a powertripping Malal and his followers circlejerking about atheism, with your best bet to make any kind of lasting impact being trolling the place one way or another until you are inevitably banned, something which Tzeench regularly loves to do by tricking Malal into thinking he's a hot daemonette, wooing his way into getting admin privileges only to use them to completely screw up the forum.

I'm going to say Khorne because at least it would be a straight up fight instead of whatever the fuck is going on in the other realms.

That's so stupid it just might work.

foolish man-thing forget to mention the harbinger of destruction yes-yes he lurks in shadow waiting to strike-stab and he will kill-kill all in his way.

so his realm is the physical world.

>Draigo
>And even he was defeated by Nurglite daemons and tied up TWICE

anyone have any more info/citations for this?

Clearly the Slaaneshi realm; you desire to charge in and invade? You find the way open. Need a fight to show your worth? The defenders are like imaginary foes; skilled beyond measure, but easily beaten. Now the realm is conquered, and its is yours to do with as you will. By the time you realize that your "conquest" was only the Realm luring you in.

Wouldn't Nurgle just rust them?

a necron tomb world got corrupted by chaos except the slumbering crons inside so they got mad and started shooting chaos fags. so csm players complained like pussies

how did that one guy resist slaanesh?

Sounds like trouble

>Draigo is not trying to escape the warp
>the warp is trying to escape him
>he just keeps coming back

unwanted visions? is that a typo?

>if you wanna be my lover, you gotta get with my friends
-Archaon, champion of chaos (undivided)

"No way fag"

He did not. He resisted everything else, but coming face to face with Slaanesh itself made him kneel.