Is it possible to roleplay through sex scenes without making it downright erp...

Is it possible to roleplay through sex scenes without making it downright erp? Some middleground between "fade to black" and deviant filth?

And if so, what manner of circumstances would make this a viable option?

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This might sound weird. But, play with girls (that read erotica).

Seriously. Girls are quick to recognize lewd roleplay that goes too far.

>But, play with girls
Where do you think you are.jpeg

Added bonus, it might get you laid.

Not necessarily with them. Socially retarded people always try to hit on girls in their immediate environment, not realising that girls know lots of girls, and girls can hook you up with other girls.

Theres nothing wrong with fade to black

>Is it possible to roleplay through sex scenes without making it downright erp?
>ITT: OP plays "Just The Tip" with erp & rpgs

>Is it possible to roleplay through sex scenes without making it downright erp?
No, by definition, user.
What if you are a guy that writes erotica?

Then you know how to make things sensual without getting erotic, or worse... pornographic.

As a girl; bullshit.
I'm just as insecure and clueless about this as guys.

If you're really a femanon, you know the drill.
just kidding

we 2010 now

>IT'S LE CURRENT YEAR YOU MISOGYNISTIC SHITLORDS

Nah, bitch needs to tits or gtfo

you're currently 3 clicks away from watching a video of Jennifer Lawrence sucking a dick. why would you want to see some random ca/tg/irl

It has less to do with >current year and more to do with >redditors regurgitating stale memes to fit in

Dems the rules. It's like giving a lift.

I don't even like grass or ass, but none of those cheap ass faggots want to pay for gas.

As a girl I do and agree
not bullshit for everyone just for you in this case the poster did not say all women

...

Take the offenders and put them in a room alone for about 10 minutes.

Typically, when it comes to such things, I find guys prefer pictures while girls prefer literature. In a setting like tabletop rpgs, where smut would inevitably lean more towards the literature/storytelling side, a lady might have a better idea of things.

Not him, but I've been living under a rock lately. Could you provide proof of your supposed video of JL tasting a meatpole?

>Some middleground between "fade to black" and deviant filth?
I would say such a middleground does exist but it is more like "as your gazes intertwine you find
within yourselves a deep yearning for each other, before you know it your lips meet and both of you know that this night will satisfy physical cravings that have been lying in wait since you first met", than anything too graphic.

I myself tend to keep things light an fade to black with assumptions being made which also allows for some funny moments when the player says they and the NPC merely slept in the same bed instead of sexing it up.

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Nah there's no middle ground. It's 100% going to be very awkward no matter how you spin it.

As a thought exercise, think of how explicit you want sex to be in movies you watch with your family - picture everyone sitting in the room, husband/wife, grandparents, mother & father, siblings, children, etc. Adjust into how much detail you go with that in mind, and I'm pretty sure you'll stop just after they get to a room with their intentions clear.

If all players and the rolemaster are fine with roleplaying parts of the foreplay and intercourse that's fine, but it's erotic all the same.

You could avoid describing anything physical and avoid any of the bed talk and just do sweet talk, but I'd still find that irksome. You wouldn't want your players rubbing eachothers crothes and tongue kissing at the... Wait no, you would, why am I even trying?

Personally, as long as something important does not happen, you should skip the sexy times.

However, if you have some vagina dentata bullshit going on, then you do need to work in the details.

If you keep your friends that distant, I can imagine exactly how you got the impression that "it's awkward because Momma told me I can't talk about those things".
What is it exactly about slightly sexual content in roleplaying games that makes it so utterly profane that you're a degenerate for even thinking about it?
Haven't you ever talked sex with your friends and had fun with it? Haven't you ever thought that something sexual added tension, drama or novelty to something in excess of turning you on? Haven't you thought about that your friends aren't slavering murder-beasts who'll jump on you and bully you to suicide as soon as you show yourself to have a sex drive like everyone else on this planet? Haven't you thought about that your trust in your friends and their trust in you should be more than enough to let you bring up the topic and preferably just carry through with it?
Of course, the answer to all of those questions is "no", because you're the kind of irrationally uptight neckbeard virginoid who puts sex on a pedestal since he's never had any, so unused to friends that he literally thinks you should treat them like family and so twitchily passive-aggressive and suspicious that he'll never make any.

>Back to /d/

I don't know about you guys, but the middle ground I've always found was either starting right at the end as he finishes in or on her, or some nebulous description that sex is happening while the characters talk.

The former is always my personal favorite, describing how you finish and then pull out to clean up and discuss either what the sex meant, or what it could mean is the best.

And this is, again, the best you can muster.
No reason why "sex is bad", no retort to all the reasons you come off as an uptight, friendless virgin, no explanation as to how a little half-ERP is somehow worse than getting drunk and talking sex, just a shriek of incomprehension at someone daring to not be you in your little Internet hugbox.
You know, I think they still sell hugboxes. You could even have Momma make you one. I think there are some educational audiobooks out there for the autists like you, where a patient man slowly explains the concept that there are other people in the world and they have their own emotions, which might even be different from the one emotion of howling, uncomprehending rage you feel.

Yeah, describe the sex in the least sexual, funniest way possible.

Uh, user, I think his point was that you need to be mindful of what everyone wants in a game and where their comfort levels are, and if you need a rough guide, not to say anything you wouldn't have issue saying in front of your parents.
You are looking for a fight, there are other boards better for that.

>Two years worth of semen made a glopping noise as it flowed endlessly into Asuna.

I am sure you both will agree with me that the best way is to fade to black after the first kiss during undressing or caress during undressing.

As soon as the undressing begins, shit gets too erotic for the table.

Which is also when most AAA game studios do their fade to blacks.

Bring out the fat pink masts

What he said.
You should be aware that not all gaming groups are as close as you seem to be with yours. I'm sure you'd have a border even with your closest friends, at least while you're sober.

Add to that, do you want people with social anxiety to never go out and try to find friends just because they aren't as open to discuss their sexuality as you are? You honestly sound like a total dick.

>Which is also when most AAA game studios do their fade to blacks.

Mass Effect doesn't! They're daring and a mature company for mature gamers like myself, which is why I had to buy Andromeda!

Never said it wasn't, but I've done some hanky panky at the table before it was a "rape"
scene that the rest of the group interrupted and it wasn't too much of an issue.
Once you get to tab A into slot B/C/D, you ought to fade it.

Nice samefag.
If you're not samefagging, too, there are two of you, which is bad for the future of this planet.
That rough guide is about as absurdly wrong as you get - even if you go with "parents", instead of "entire family including little kids and grandparents" like he said, that's an incredibly cold and suspicious way to treat your friends, and I have no difficulty imagining that he's only that mad because that attitude gets in his way of having any proper games.
I'm extrapolating a bit here, but I still have a lot of experience with these kinds of players - quick to blame others for being "gross", but often hair-trigger touchy, insecure and constantly suspicious that the other players are trying to victimize them in some way (and if "normal, mature talk about sex" is that bad, they're going to feel victimized a lot).
Treating other players like they were your parents when it comes to objectionable content is patronizing, condescending, suspicious, uncooperative and in the end only makes everyone, including yourself, feel like they have to walk on eggshells. It hamstrings the game as the GM and players find themselves having to watch everything they say and even throw out perfectly good twists, details and hooks because one player might be grossed out.
A healthy group can joke about almost everything, because they know each other well enough to know they're not going to bully, hang out or otherwise shit on each other just for trying to put something slightly different into their roleplay - and that leads to a tense, unproductive group where the players end up suspecting each other all the time.

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>I'm extrapolating a bit here
No, you are fishing for (you)s, which you won't be getting.
Somehow you are goalposting moving from appropriate topic descriptions in a social situation to being "suspicious".
Your bait is a little silly, to be honest.

Just don't, OP. Don't make this weird.

Our group might include a quick aside on it, instead of a FTB it might just be an incredibly light "and then they fucked" level of summary, with one or two adjectives to suggest sensuality, romance, etc being a key part of the atmosphere.

Then if it has any RP value we'll play the specific thing out. For example if one PC has to sleep with the oracle to get her to tell his future, you might get a description of how your mind is filled with scattered visions and hallucinations, and how at one point while she's on top of you her eyes go white and she starts chanting in tongues or some shit.

Nothing explicitly erotic, just matter-of-fact and focusing on the narrative of the scene.

Let me tell you I have social anxiety too.
The way you get over it isn't obliging everyone around you to stress themselves raw for as long as you live because you're too busy staying alone and deluding yourself more and more about how monstrous other people are. You're only going to become more deluded and pampered if you rely on other people's surplus, brain-fog-inducing SSRIs or ridiculously expensive untested New Age therapy to get over your personal problem.
Parts of social anxiety can be genetic, of course, but in the end it's mostly a problem of thought loops and constant self-reinforcement ("let me post on this imageboard about how bad other people are and how bad their social interaction is, so I can feel good about never interacting with them").
Even if it feels like you're going to die, it's your duty as a functioning member of the society that works hard every day to keep your whinging ass alive to try until you keel over to overcome it, so that you can contribute at least a fragment of your part.
If you really take it for granted that someone should be able to squawk "b- but my anxiety" and get exempted from the most basic responsibility of a human being - interacting constructively and respectfully with other people - while still constantly leeching off their generosity, you have a fucking problem.
It's the problem of your delusion versus everyone else's already stretched-thin surplus. I don't doubt there are dozens of people in your "friend" circle who'd just love to show you what should happen to people like that, if it wasn't for the rest of society mercifully deciding that braining you should be illegal.
You can start whinging when you've been out there and seen that other people aren't monsters, and that being a living leech on their surplus and energy isn't okay in the slightest.

In my experience, you can do more explicit sex scenes in games with friends provided you make it funny and they share your sense of humor.

Calmly describing how the barbarian slides his cock into the elf is awkward. Theatrically describing the barbarian wielding his mighty weapon for the elf with such skill that death notices a pair of his hourglasses are jumping up and down like hearts suddenly stopping then starting up again is childish but nonetheless much more comfortable.

Ah, yes. The Naked Gun school of implied implications.

Yep. You need adjusted beings, quite probably of the other sex if you're straight.

And strangely enough I found useful to be in smaller convention, of all things. When you know the other guys/girls around but have some sort of social pressure to not go full retard.

>Calmly describing how the barbarian slides his cock into the elf is awkward
Only if you can't make it sensual or silly enough.
You took one route. I'd go with something fantastically erotic just because I could, and savor the the expressions of the players.

>I'd go with something fantastically erotic just because I could, and savor the the expressions of the players.

Depending on how porno you make the descriptions, those moments can get very special reactions out of your players.

This doesn't even have anything to do with social anxiety, if I'm talking sex with you I'm over it with you. I was just saying the other guy is being an ass for telling people with social anxiety to get lost if they don't want to take part in his magical realm. I don't even see how being uncomfortable about discussing sex has anything to do with having social anxiety, beyond the fact that it is harder to get laid if you have mental disorders. As someone who is a virgin I can tell you getting forced into these interactions aren't very nice. I just asked the user to keep in mind that RP is an out for a lot of nerds who are socially awkward to have some friends and being dicks to them seems rather pointless.

What's wrong with braining social retards? I wish I could murder fucking everyone on /r9k/ so much. It is not like anyone would miss them.

I bet someone would want to brain you with the exact same intensity and (to them) justification. Would you allow them to?

>implying they'd be able to leave their homes to brain me

Checkmate.

Why the fuck do you even live you fucking sociopath?

As primates, we are naturally social creatures who have embraced communal living to maximize our safety and prosperity.

Braining those who don't fit well with the group may not be disadvantageous to the colony per se, but it establishes a deadly precedent which may lead to more ambiguous killings over time. Plus, humans who kill humans won't have that heavy mental block to do it again anymore.

>Implying I can't order a drone.
>Implying I can't manufacture an explosive.
I actually can't, but I'll get a half dozen proxies set up and learn.
>Implying I won't blow you up as you're leaving your car when coming home from work.
I'm pretty sure nobody will miss a sleazy deuchebag sociopath. What, do you slap the waitress' ass as well?

Traddion

>current year
>2010
I have bad news for you

>you fuck next scene

Eliza's breasts barrel-rolled across Ezra's howling mouth and the pained frenzy of his bulbous salutation extenuating his excitement as it smacked its way into every muscle of Eliza's body except for the otherwise central zone.

I have no appropriate reaction face for the combined amusement and appalment that your displays of Internet-tough-guyerry elicit in me
This is valid for all participants in this travesty of an argument but please, do go on

I know my close friend's fetishes and they know mine. We talk about sexual things ocassionally after booze or while driving late at night, when the atmosphere is appropriate for such topics. I don't think the game table is the appropriate place for such talk. I'd rather not hear about how Thokk the half-orc has sex with the barmaid in graphic detail while sitting at the game table. Unless the game is explicitly advertised as ERP, make it fade to black.

>but please, do go on

Can we instead go on with the hilarious porn?

MOLLUSKS

Okay, legitimate question for op; WHY do you want to roleplay the sex scene?

>It's actually a part of the game, in that depending on how the player performs or what choices they make, NPCs might divulge additional information or help/hinder the PC in other ways

Great. Give the player a stamina skill check, ask how they want to fulfill the Baronness' kink, and/or roleplay the part where her husband bursts in on them. As long as the scene somehow contributes to the narrative and you're not creeping out anyone.

>I live vicariously though the game characters and I'm so very lonely

You've made it creepy. Take that shit online.

As a DM, I'll say this - Don't do the sex scene at all. Fade to black.

Why? It's because you can't communicate the sensual appeal of the scene without making everyone uncomfortable. What you CAN do, however, is to show off the aftermath of it.

Like, let's say your PC is about to fuck a woman who's relatively cold towards him. But he does a great job of it, gives her the most volcanic, explosive pleasure ever. Obviously, she'll be really happy with him, right? So she'll giggle, blush, fiddle with her hands, cling to his arm and basically do what she can to hope for a repeat performance.

That's the appeal for your player. You don't need to go into excessive description - Anyone can tell that they fucked, and it was great. Focusing on the woman's (or the man's, I'm just using an example) response to it is actually plot-relevant, and the aftermath is more important to your game than the act itself.

My bad, you are right, this is way funnier Also something I'd like to do with characters in long campaigns who can't keep their dicks in their trousers (especially in settings with little or no reliable means of contraception) is to have single mothers or unknown children come bite them in the ass a few years later
Same goes for female PCs and pregnancy, effectively sending the PCs on a quest to get an abortion or even having to deal with a pregnant party member (and then raising a child among adventurers)
All that of course with the player's approval to fuck with them (but no specifics until the big reveal)
Sadly I haven't had the occasion of playing it out to the end yet

>Like, let's say your PC is about to fuck a woman who's relatively cold towards him. But he does a great job of it, gives her the most volcanic, explosive pleasure ever.

How do you figure out how well he manages, though? Do you actually make some rolls?

Nah, fade to black is good, but RP the in bedroom conversations a bit. One of my favorite characters was a womanizer whose fate was to be unlucky in love.

He'd pick up a women in every town we went to, but the GM had a secret die roll, and sometimes things would happen.
>my coin pouch was stolen
>the brother busted in while we were in the middle of it-that would have led to a shotgun wedding but I snuck out of town and met the party down thew road
>I found out I'd seduced the Duke's daughter who'd snuck out for some slumming-I ended up thrown in jail when the guards came looking for her in the morning
>a team of assassins came after the woman, who turned out to have crossed a big thieve's guild

Basically, he used it as a lead in for plot hooks when the rest of the party didn't take the bait, and filler when we burned through what he had prepared.

Yes, but it depends on you and your players. If you know they have no problem, do it. Otherwise talk about it. The most peoble I met, like it more as comedic relief or fade to black. But, if you are okay with, that, you can actually be more descriptive, without it getting to steamy pointed this well out. Despite I allways say: More Description - More Immersion its, a matter of taste. I mean, I can bore you with descriping the nuances in the colour of the rotting teeth of an underhive crackwhore over minutes, a other person may think that its immersive and/or his magical realm.

I'm sure FATAL has answers to that.

Just roll for it, behind the scenes, or go for whatever's most plot-relevant. Like, generally you shouldn't fuck the player on this.

I assume that if you're a high-level PC or a Solar Exalted, you're a god-king among men. You'll basically blow a woman's mind. And what are RPGs if not a bit of ego-stroking?

Compare it to a slice of life scene from a game; a campfire intermission in an arduous travel, a noble ball where the PCs have a chance to invite their own characters of interest, the session after a massive arc/haul that is spend refueling, indulging vices, and spending newfound wealth.
Like any other encounter, a slice of life RP encounter should contribute to the game. If you make an interesting shopkeeper who the PCs are invested in or was/could become a quest hook, RPing their interactions is fun and productive for the game's health. If nobody cares, you handwave it, else it would drag the game down.
First off, look at these encounters as a chance for characterization. In the shopkeep example, even if the player(s) doesn't want to RP the entire encounter, they can slip in characterization by describing their character's attitude or response to the NPC. Mention they linger and smalltalk, or conversely make themselves out as quite important to bait a better deal or selection. This is a great happy medium when the DM or player (whether the one RPing or the others in the group who want to RP or move on to action) wish to move on quickly, but it still gets character interaction across.
Now, apply this to your sexual encounter scene. The shortest version is instant fade to black; the same as "I'd like to buy a potion of healing." "You go to the alchemist and pay 50gp for it." The only characterization or effect on the game is that the event happened in general.
Consider the full RP approach. Most game environments don't support this as well. First off, remember that some players are strictly observers; they might not enjoy being able only to watch things they can't interact with in general, let alone with such a subject. Sometimes, everyone's into it, generally when it's a dedicated ERP game. This allows for maximum characterization, developments for the game or plot hooks, and (remember, only do this if everyone enjoys it!) everyone's enjoyment to observe.

Finally, consider the spectrum of medium approaches to it. First, brief characterization; how you describe the approach and act can lend a lot of information to a character. Was this something that took a long courtship? Did the character initiate? Did your bard dazzle yet another starry-eyed barmaid, your paladin finally betroth to the apple of his eye, or your cleric with blossoming affection for your barbarian get whisked passionately into their tent? The approach is almost always fair game, and depending on the group's temperament you might describe a bit of the events that occur, if only for the sake of characterization, or determining the situation if something occurs. How *does* your character, and the other, do it? Where are they found if someone walks in? Are the lights on to notice a dagger strapped to someone's ankle? These are things that, applied properly, can shape the characters and game. Another important chance, that is often more acceptable, is the afterglow. Are they both happy? What might result from the conversation? This is a time when people who have connected quite intimately open up in other ways; perhaps a character reveals their true feelings, or can be coaxed to reveal a pursued secret, or will continue to cling to and pursue the other.

I think this is one case where psychopath is actually accurate.

>Grass or ass, said the druid...

Here, I threw something together and have subsequently edited it slightly to make certain portions more clear.

This is only intended for when a PC wants to seduce an NPC. If two or more NPCs want to fuck, then the DM just says how it goes down while the players wonder, perhaps aloud, why they need to hear this. If two or more PCs want to have sex, then the two PCs resolve between themselves how it goes down while everyone else demands that they get a room already.

This system also assumes that there's only 1 NPC and 1 PC involved, because I wanted to keep it to a single page. However a good rule of thumb is that for each additional sexual partner a PC tries to seduce into bed, the DC increases by 2. The DM may also rule that previously-acquired sexual partners must be Seduced anew (at the newly raised DC).

So, for example, Rinaldo the Randy Bard has seduced a Strumpet at DC 16, and now wants to seduce a Ponce. The Ponce normally has a DC of 16 as well, but since Rinaldo already has a Strumpet, the Ponce's proposition DC is instead 18, and Rinaldo must likewise convince the Strumpet to accept the Ponce as well as Rinaldo himself into bed, making a DC 18 check for her. If Rinaldo fails this second check by 4 or less, then the Strumpet doesn't want to have sex with Rinaldo and the Ponce at the same time but is still open to sex with Rinaldo. If he fails by 5 or more, then the Strumpet has been insulted because she's not that type of girl and will leave Rinaldo.

Oh, finally, if an NPC has never had sex before (they are a virgin) and is barely an adult (15 in D&D for a human), then their Proposition DC is reduced by 5. This is both due to the fact that young people are horny and naïve and therefore easier to seduce into bed.

Best story to come out of the womanizer's antics?

It's almost like the bulk of PbtA games have mechanics for sex that sre focused on drama instead of wanking under the table.

Ah, I couldn't help myself and expanded the rules some more.

the ones that do are actually in a minority, it's pretty much just Apocalypse World and MonsterHearts

I think it's totally fine fade to black "and they fuck" in most of the cases.
But when it's a situation with lots of emotion involved is your obrigation as a GM to describe at least a few things, not only for immersion, but as a little reward for the player.
If two characters have a story together, they fought for each other and are in love you have to decribe somethings. They hold hands? How embarased they were? Did they have some talk? Someone was anxious?
After that just ask to the player how his character handle the situation and how he behave and tell him how the NPC reacted.
Just make things happen like in a move. Focus on the emotional side before the sex scene > fade to black > Show what hapens after

Not all of us find sexual themes embarrasing user...its just something that happens, I personally have never described actual sex but how the situation escalates into it along with the pillow talk are totally ok

I prefer a short description, like "It was great, you loved it".

>Girls are quick to recognize lewd roleplay that goes too far.
More like "they're quick to dictate when roleplay in general hurts their feefees". Playing with girls changes the flow of... everything, really.

In my experience it's the opposite. Girls are all fine for doing some really kinky shit but boys skirt the line and don't dare to do anything because they're scared of going too far and the consequences of such.

In mixed groups you're utterly right: men are either timid or sex offenders. In gendersplit groups, you couldn't be more wrong. When you're just hanging with the bros, you can easily grab a fictional ass or two without being called a rapist.

As a more or less certified outward normie (have a gf and go out with the lads on Friday nights). I can tell you that's weird as shit and always gonna be awkward.

There's a huge gap between chuckling about last night's antics with a buddy and getting another one of your friends to cook up a situation to arouse you... What you seem to be getting at is a near bro job tier closeness with your friends.

As his meat balloon reached full engorgement he prepared to fire all of his baby batter reserves into her dank,wet ham wallet.

>"What? That's what they do!"

>Whoops, wasn't the spoiler box checked?
>Well, looks like I'm b& again

My groups always faded to black. The only exception is that the wizard always casts haste on himself mid way through the act.

>we 2010 now
>IT'S LE CURRENT YEAR
Newfag AND retarded, a dangerous combo.

Autism is most dangerous when you're unaware you have it, user. Get checked.

Roll each stat, right on down the line.
I can't think of one that isn't relevant
>holding her down with STR
>fingerblasting with DEX
>edging with CON
>remembering what you did last time that worked with INT
>going with her flow with WIS
>just the right dirty talk with CHA

...

entirely possible. Just be vague as fuck on the details "they're fucking in missionary position and some emotional shit happened"

>what manner of circumstances
an intimate sexual one.

I'd say it's mostly the who, where, why, and in what other circumstances this is happening that is the important bits. It can be pulled off tastefully enough in writing, but in an RP that has two people as characters (including between a PC and NPC unless the PC has full writing/RPing privledges for the NPC so the GM doesn't have to narrate or react) there's naturally some... uncertainties I guess is the word. Some amount of detail that can't just be implied that gets erotic and uncomfortable, for some people. Given the initial question of being able to RP a sex scene (implied to be with two people, since, you know, if it's not you're just faffing about by yourself and writing, not really RPing in my opinion) without it being ERP or fading to black, I say no.

On the topic of how awkward it is, and given this thought exercise, a better thought exercise might be thinking of what you would be comfortable watching, and discussing, with people at the table. If you don't know the people and their comfort levels well, keep it safer. After all, people are playing to have ~fun~ right? Making things awkward makes things less fun.

Besides, I find even discussions about sex amongst close friends have a kind of fade-to-black quality, unless a detail is really amusing/extraordinary/ect. Don't know who you hang out with, but people I know aren't going to give the kind of play-by-play non-fade-to-black RPing would give.

It also depends on how you're RPing. If it's just through text I feel you can get away with more, because people can skim quickly if they're a bit uncomfortable, whereas if it's people talking and looking you in the face, one, it's harder to come up with a non-awkward or tasteful (or amusing enough to not be awkward) description on the spot, and two, they are basically forced to listen to every word and it's a much longer process.

We've used this one for years, funnily enough.

>Is it possible to do erp without it being erp?

The idea is for it to not be erp.

I roll to see if my fighters sausage succesfully penetrates the maiden's hymen. I guess since swords aren't his specialty, he's doing it at a -4 to hit?

I fade to black because its best for everyone. Contrary to popular belief, nothing is more uncomfortable than erotica amongst your friends. It crosses a terrible threshold. If you're into that, good for you, but it's not normal and most people don't like that kind of thing.