Do you think players would be willing to play a game where they were all Clone Troopers?

Fucking no

If the system was even half decent I'd play it.

Fuck yes I would. I will win the war those stupid fucking Jedi are trying to run into the ground.

The first thing that comes to mind would be Only War
but no idea if that's good or if there's something much better

Star Wars Saga is pretty good from my experience if you like d20 systems, it's simple but manages to balance Jedi and non-force users.

I disagree with you.

I'm not saying the prequels were great - they weren't. But they weren't any worse than the badly paced awful fight scene original trilogy.

Everything great about star wars comes from TCW, and the Dark horse BBY comics (especially the various old republic comics).

Saga and FFG are both half decent.

>But they weren't any worse than the badly paced awful fight scene original trilogy.

I had an idea once and I still want to run it
>establish that they're doing premade char gen, paranoia style
>hand out envelopes with char sheets marked with only numbers
>hand out envelopes with character portraits
>different stats
>same portraits
>everyone is a slightly defective clone of the same person
>its the villain

>no qt 3.14 Jedi to bang between missions

Going to be a hard sell once they find out about that part.

Underrated post.

The prequels fucking sucked in terms of execution

Conceptually they had some good shit tho, the republic becoming the empire was fun, both the clones and the droids had some good aesthetic design, most of the locations and ships conveyed a lot of information at a glance.

Mostly just wooden acting, awful script and lazy direction that fucked it.

TCW is the highest peak of Star Wars for me

Clones were, prior to prequels, the enemy army. As boring as that is, it's at least more interesting than disposable people vs disposable robots in which the populace has literally zero personal stake

This is really it. I really want to return to coruscant in the new trilogy, but it's probably been tainted so much by "I hate sand" that we'll never see it again.

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dude, coruscant got btfo'd in the new trilogy, the first movie, or didnt you pick up on that? that one planet out of seven planets that was being destroyed was coruscant.

wtf I hate the Disney Trilogy now

>But they weren't any worse than the badly paced awful fight scene original trilogy.

Not bad

The character creaton must be really fast.

Speaking of clones, it reminded me about this scene from Ep II

youtube.com/watch?v=g6aD-m7Cw84

According to wookiepedia that was the Hosnian system, coruscant is still a-ok.
Still, anything can be retconned at any time.

One time we played in a one shot as clone troopers. It was order 66 day and it ended with us turning on our Jedi with a big fight. It was pretty fun.

Spend five minutes reading even Disney's lazy information about what happened and you'd know it wasn't coruscant

The New Republic isn't actually based on Courasant. There are multiple city-planets in the galaxy.

>I am retconning the Canon. Pray I don't retcon it any further.

They'd call be combat specialists of some sort, but there's a surprising amount of variation between individual clones.

Would probably depend on what they were being raised for. Commando units have more individuality than line troops, but even line soldiers can be drastically different from one to the next.

Press F to pay respects

>Press F to pay respects
>mfw the F stands for Fives

>dude, coruscant got btfo'd in the new trilogy, the first movie, or didnt you pick up on that? that one planet out of seven planets that was being destroyed was coruscant.

In the actual movie itself, they flat-out namedrop the "Hosnian System" as the one destroyed.

Or didnt you pick up on that?

Man, I forgot how obvious the CGI was in Ep II.

Kind of reminds me of an up-budget version of the cutscenes from DF2: Jedi Knight.

>Kind of reminds me of an up-budget version of the cutscenes from DF2: Jedi Knight.
>up-budget version

Is this something I'm not familiar with? Link?

Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight uses FMV cutscenes like Command and Conquer. That Ep II clip reminds me of one of those if they'd put more budget into it.
youtube.com/watch?v=6GfgtBuhOxk

>IF

Oh. Based on your initial wording I was briefly excited that somewhere there existed an upscaled version, but I suppose I missed the word "an". Sorry.

Trust me, I'm very familiar with all things Kyle.

>FfF
>F for Fives

Use
to avoid

Might be a bit overdone, but I've always loved the idea of playing Commandos that weren't affected by Order 66 and are declared traitors. Has so much potential for a lot of interesting shit.

>buy Republic Commando other day in star wars sale
>had all weekend to try it out
RIP
Well another week of sleep work sleep won't kill me. Probably.

I'll take it over jedi chosen one #3000

I would, it's a good exercise to see if you can roleplay a character based on what they've experienced in game rather than from some backstory.

Yes, Only War is good proof that players will play as standard infantry troops.

I'd suggest the 501st as they're so badass they became the Emperor's personal battalion after Order 66.

>Kemono Friends reaction image.
Opinion discarded.

youtube.com/watch?v=dYaNQ1R77Ug

I've always wanted to run a short star wars campaign with Troopers fighting against a Xenomorph infestation on board a derelict republic ship.
Leading up to a fight with a force-weilding Xeno born from a Jedi

I really want to do a whole session of the first attempts to colonize Endor for the Empire. Just fighting primitive domestic terrorist ewoks trying to murder you.

my bro

i DID
>pic related

sad, because the ex-friend who played the jedi decided to cheat the fuck outta Order 66 and i got killed instead. shitty awkward poorly done ending.

>i was thinking i'd be cool to do an Order 66 ending closer to something like Quentin Tarantino doing Mice and Men
>...nope, nothing gloriously good, just awkward shitty player bullshit, and the GM decided to go ahead and kill my character too, even though any delay i had was for drama effect.

>loved the character.
>loved the setting.
>shit players.
>GM was a spoiled fucking princess.

My condolences for shitty players

F

Visually the clones are awesome. Concept-wise, a clone army is stupid as fuck, as was the robot army. Making them clones makes them really disposable, which is the opposite of what you want to do when you want to make people care about the war. They should have just been regular joes getting drafted.

story time?

>Making them clones makes them really disposable
It changed the dynamic
Generally war stories involved what you said, regular people will regular lives.
Now with TCW there's a completely different dynamic that was explored in the cartoon. Exploring the mindset of a clone and what it meant to be one. Are they numbered disposable people or something more?
I find this option better than the same thing we've seen a hundred times just with a space fantasy spin on it.

sure. shall i actually namefag or no?

>TCW
I don't give a fuck.
FleshRobots vs MetalRobots were one of the supreme reasons the prequels sucked.

Sounds boring. It may have been done before.

Nah, just post it. I don't think anybody bothers enough to troll a story on Veeky Forums

i am not afraid of trolls. besides, my name means little, it's just a tag.

so, didja want story time over the whole campaign or just the part where the players fucked it over.

>prequels sucked
Revenge of the Sith is literally better than Return of the Jedi

It's not a common opinion, but it's an opinion.

I'm inclined to agree with it though.

Prequel trilogy had better fight scenes and pacing but had bad acting, no character development, and plot holes aplenty.

Most of the star wars movies are kinda shit for one reason or another.

So far the only star wars movie I have no serious complaints about is rogue one.

>so, didja want story time over the whole campaign or just the part where the players fucked it over.
post the relevant parts, I'm interested in how you cheat Order fucking 66

no.
The Anakin plot was ridiculous and unbelievable and all the main characters acted autistic as fuck to make it happen. The pace was broken up all the time. Literally no emotional investment in the characters was created. Antagonists were handled incredibly poorly. Fight scenes sucked ass. Picture Direction ranged from 'acceptable' to 'poorly'. Lot's of things make no sense in the greater story line of the hexalogy.

Overall it's a 4/10 compared to RotJ's 7.5/10

I don't know the circumstances of your game, but that honestly sounds like just about the best tragic ending a clone trooper could ask for.

Also that's a nice illustration.

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it's you know who

i cooked up a greentext but it's connection erroring my ass

is greentext now illegal or something?

you can post copy pasta right?

testing

Sure, especially since their stats don't need to be exactly the same, nor their skills. Despite being clones they had a fairly decent amount of variety in personality but some still made better leaders or snipers or pilots. It's kind of a giant experiment in nature vs nurture. Despite having mostly the same genes* some difference that happened in their upbringing made some lazy, others bold, some reckless, some snarky, etc. Some willing to betray their brothers. Jedi tended to influence them into exploring what made them unique, much to the frustration of the Kaminoans who saw the clones as products, not people.

*There was some slight genetic variation from Kaminoan tinkering, experimenting with different ways to improve their clone armies. The most extreme results ending up with guys like the Bad Batch who would otherwise have been rejected as too aberrant.

dear Veeky Forums, quit being a nig. wanna post text.

so, just in short, the player had seen the movie, so he just wanted his jedi to have the knowledge. i tried to salvage it, but it all ended up being shit.
my 'salvage action' translated to me having delayed an order 66, i was declared a jedi supporter and shot by my fellow clones who i loved dear.

very. shitty. end.

>bad batch

i thought erry last Clone was a Temura Morrison

what is with THAT pic?

>so, just in short, the player had seen the movie, so he just wanted his jedi to have the knowledge. i tried to salvage it, but it all ended up being shit.
What a metagaming fuck. That's why I make sure to change up the dates slightly on all background events every time I run stuff in established universes.

The genetic sample for Jango was stretched thin and the Kaminoans were doing what they could to fix things.

So they started producing some altered clones.

You know, I've always wanted to ask, What did people think the Clone Wars were before the prequels?

>clone troopers

Not treason.

I'm sure Palpatine would have put in a clause of order 66 for 'hot jedi bishes harem' anyway

>lazy direction that fucked it.
The prequels are without exaggeration the most ambitiously directed blockbuster movies of the past 20 years. The direction isn't necessarily always good, but it's never lazy, in absolutely any way.

Cloning is an exact science. Cloning AND genetically manipulating the result has it's ups and downs. That's why they screw around with the genes in the first place, to see what works and what doesn't. The Bad Batch were very extremely different but still functional as soldiers unlike the poor bastard in pic related.

With that dude on the left it's entirely possible Tarkin was visiting Kamino and for some reason decided to spooge in a petri dish that was later mixed in with his genes.

ok.

odd, but ok.

it wouldn't have helped. this guy just didn't want his pet jedi to die (where i actually have a folder for my honored dead characters: i embrace game death) so he cheated in a really obvious way.
but, yeah, and the GM handled it like ass.

things like this are the reason i no longer RPG: you get the most spoiled-ass cunts and wizards with no sense of right or wrong.

the guy and GM have long since left my friend circle

You're a massive moron

>dozens of scenes of people standing and talking
>wacky cuts
>cheap cgi instead of actors or miniatures
you're wrong.

What a nice argument, you sure convinced me of how awesome the idea of a faceless clone army is. Fucking retard.

>tarkin spooge

i kek'd

A lot of people assumed that there were clones of the Jedi, and that Ben was one of them.

Obi-Wan = OB-1.

Quite frankly, you'll never find two people who will agree on what they thought the Clone Wars were before the prequels, though, at least not until Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy came out and included some references to the Clone Wars and a cloned Jedi.

>all those over the shoulder talking scenes with the well timed "the audience is getting bored, have one of them go look out a window or something" moment
>they spend so much fucking time walking in a plastic corridor or sitting on the fucking couch while they do this
>not lazy

for just asking this question, you deserve a (You) and some hot star wars ass.

originally, the 2 trains of thought were:
A: you had good and evil clones of everybody (jedi too), so there was backstabbing and mistaken identity everywhere.
B: armies made of clones fought vs. the jedi. a lot of us assumed the Stormtroopers were similar to the clones. they were kinda right

I assumed people cloned important key figures as impostors, driving the galaxy to war with the Empire swooping in and unifying what was left.

right, but i was just reporting what most other fans in the 80's-90's thought.

i didn't care. sci-fi has throwaway background elements all over

>cheap cgi
Holy shit, how stupid are you.

Okay, first of all, even now, cgi isn't cheap. This is a huge misconception that gets spread around way too much. It's still incredibly expensive to this day, often moreso than practical effects, and it's now a long established technology. When the prequels were made it was unbelievably costly.

Second of all, the prequels did use a lot of sets and actors in costume and make up. They built as many sets as they did for the original trilogy, still used miniatures, and were more ambitious with practical makeup and costume. The only major exception to this was the clone army.

And most importantly, you have to understand, cgi was not used in those movies because it would be easier or anything like that. George Lucas has always had a massive hard on for innovation. The original trilogy pushed miniature, oil panting, and puppet specifial effects to their limits, and the prequel trilogy pushed new limits and horizons. CGI would be no where near where it is today if the prequel trilogy hadn't pushed it so far forward. They were the best looking movies around in terms of cgi when the came out, and only within the past few years has Revenge of the Sith really started to show age in it's cgi, it's effects held up better than anything else from 2005, and middle to low budget movies even 10 years later looked worse. The cgi doesn't always look great, but again, it looked a lot better than anything else did at the time, and cgi as a whole has progressed a lot because of those movies.

The decision to use so much cgi was not one made out of laziness, it was a hugely risky and daring decision, that took a lot of money, effort, and time.

Go to bed, George, clone troopers your movies look like shitty video games.

this guy
does not deserve this bullshit.
we know who the pleeb is when a well posted argument get that bullshit reply.

>too lazy to do the homework and add proper weight to clones like they did for yoda
>low-res textures on stuff like the animals in Ep1
nah

>it's never lazy, in absolutely any way.

Everything is done in soul less green screen. There are rarely any interesting shots, even mustafaar got messed up. Sitting around panning back and forth between people sitting on a couch, horrible acting direction, I can't even understand what movies you were watching

Except Palpatine's behind it all so none of it matters anyway. TCW is a farce because Anakin and Asaaj, Dooku and Ashoka all work for the same person.

Fuck yes I would love that.