In all seriousness, what's the deal with Orc women? What role do they play in Orc society?

In all seriousness, what's the deal with Orc women? What role do they play in Orc society?

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In the setting I'm currently running Orcs don't really have an sexual dimorphism, they produce strong enough pheromones that other orcs never have any confusion but members of other races can't really tell the difference unless the orc is naked.

In terms of orc society their gestation period is very short so without pregnancy being much of an issue and no other physical differences their roles aren't affected

Same as human women back in the day - locked into the house to cook food and raise children.

They serve one purpose.

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Who cares?

>Warhammer pre-3e
Mothers, cooks. Sometimes they join primitive human tribes.
>Warhammer post-3e
AIN'T GOT USE FER FEMBOYZ IN DIS 'ERE WAAAGH.

>D&D
The lowest caste in society due to the goddess of Orc females being little higher than a mortal male in their pantheon. Do all the work, show absolute obedience to all males. May not own property or carry weapons. Traded as favors between clans.

The exception is Grey Orcs, who are basically stone age Wood Elves and females are equal.

>Warcraft
Equal to males for the most part, except they for some reason are almost never warchiefs.

>TES
Equal in Imperial society, in their own all females are wives of the current chieftain unless the mother of said chieftain. Tend to be the skilled workers among their race, and their entire spiritual caste.

>Tolkien
Unknown, they are never mentioned.

You decide!

If you're running the world, it's up to you.

In mine, females are relegated to whelp duty with status only with those they whelp, not always their own offspring. An individual who can challenge and kill a male is considered a real Orc. All innate magic is found in females and only their male offspring have potential to be 'wizards' Female shamans, etc. serve the chief, etc. as advisors and similar (torturers, engineers, etc.. When a chief starts to make bad choices, his chief female will encourage a better choice to challenger him and cheat for the challenger. A female that becomes a 'chief maker' can live to die of old age, 40 or so.

The answer to this is to ask what the deal is in every race, yes? Elven women are just as proficient at skewering you with a volley of arrows, are they not? Does Lord of the Rings not have Eowyn, princess and shield maiden of Rohan?

You must decide these things. Do orcs form warrior tribes to protect their women from other tribes that would take them as sex slaves?
Are orcs unified and don't discriminate by gender, but their mothers and young are protected to ensure they can replenish their lost warriors against the other races?
Do orcs give birth far more often than other races because they are constantly at war?
Do orc women do their duty to sire strong children, then return to the front lines as they leave their children to be raised by wet nurse and elderly?
Do they treat their children as weaklings that must quickly grow strong or allowed to die?
Are orcs even a warlike race, more so than any other society with iron to forge and gold to spend?
Are orcs particularly cruel? Are there Orc tribes where women are treated as breeding stock and shackled, while a continent over there are Orc Amazon women that treat men just the same?

Originally? Slave vaginas. Simple breeding material, nothing more.

Currently? Whatever fetish the current writer has.

>dnd - lowest caste
Really? Aren't Orc women usually shamans or "priestess" to Grummsh or something a long those lines? When they arent being used as baby makers.

Many orcish women join raiding parties and abduct human women in order to serve them like in the handmaid's tale, forcing those women to have sex with orcish men they like and adopting the half-orcish children as their own without going through the inconvenience or danger of pregnancy themselves.

who the fuck cares, post more slutty fem orcs

They don't really do anything except shit their diapers

In any setting that doesn't explicitly describe the treatment of women in orcish society, it is safe to assume that orc women and children take the role of camp followers along with the elderly.

They stay a good distance away from the main raiding force, tending to equipment, gathering food, and assisting the tribe's healer with managing their wounded soldiers and prisoners of war.

In extreme cases, orc camp followers would be forced into battle, so I can assume that the women would have some experience with self-defense, if only to protect themselves from other orcs.

Female orc ADVENTURERS, however, live in the necessarily egalitarian pseudoculture that all adventurers live in.

Nope. Right from 2e onwards female Orcs had their own god. Luthic, goddess of servitude and motherhood.

forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Luthic

She was ridiculously put down in her early existence. Saying a mortal male is damn near eye to eye with her isn't a joke.

She got less shit on in later editions, but even now as you can see in pic related she literally has to kneel when in the presence of males and is wearing rags despite being a goddess.

When a warband goes, it's kind of split into two. The men go ahead first, smashing through enemies and opposition, while the women follow after by up to a few days and handle what the men missed or weakened. Eventually the warband stops when the women get too laden with goods and spoils of war (the men don't bother with it in order to keep going without delaying to pillage) to be able to keep up with the men, then the men just return to reunite with the women.

The whole thing resembles a triangle sort of formation, with a large concentrated force of the men punching on through, while the women are more spread out behind to cast a wider net on what they catch or come across. Essentially, men do the fighting (mostly) and women do the pillaging (mostly).

Like Hyenas (and possibly those fucking Gnolls), Orc women are bigger, heavier and more angrier. They are the natural leaders and will rape the mediocre males when they feel like it. That's probably why Half-Orcs usually come from Orc fathers: they're too fucking scared to mate with their own kind.

Orc women should eat their babies during stress. This way, the baby orc dilemma is avoided and the orc women get energy to escape.

>Tolkien
Given that orcs were initially elves that were broken and twisted through black magic and torture in Angband,
and given that orc numbers multiplied greatly and continued to do so,
There are two reasonable conclusions:
>Orc females are nearly indistinguishable from males and fight along side them
>orc females primarily breed and perform domestic and agricultural labour (despite Mordor being shit tier farmland, they did grow crops anyhow)

>Mordor being shit tier farmland

Most of Mordor was full of farms.

Most are breeders, trained in battle to protect the young. The females are the defense of the tribe when the males are out raiding. They are also the taskmasters of the young.

Exceptions exist for achievements and places of honour.

Why would loot pinatas need to escape?

Clearly baby Orcs are self-sufficient and able to walk from birth. Mothers care for them to encourage them to grow bigger and stronger, but when adventuers attack they flee and hide using burrowing and climbing. All adults suicidally attack adventurers.

Like a burned old forest giving way to fresh growth, the children build a stronger society from the ground up free of any hinderances like tradition and feuds.

Making Half-orcs with the Paladin.

All people in the goblinoid state are soldiers. All citizens must receive combat training before the age of majority. All must serve a minimum two years of active duty within the military or affiliated mercenary company. All citizens must contribute to the prosperity of the state, and the state's primary export is armed service.

Well, you see, the males have a dick and the women have a vagina. Anyone big and strong enough gets to be in the raiding parties, but women sometimes have to take maternal leave to birth whatever hell-spawn she's got cooking.
Anyone not big or strong acts as the domestic workers/slaves, no matter their equipment, because they're weak bitches. It's more often the women due to slight sexual dimorphism, but there are guys there too.

"Must be this buff to go fuck elf sluts"
signs are just everywhere.

>goblinoid

goblin
hobgoblin
bugbear
Nope, no orcs on that list

Once upon a time they were.

Despite being quite savage and crude, orcs in my setting are quite meritocratic, you earn what you take personally, strength and skill at arms often plays into this.

Women tend to fight with their male counter-parts, often settling down to more motherly roles when they have lost that PMS that tends to define their younger years and are too wounded/old/weary to effectively fight, It keeps any clan strong when your women also have to contend with the selection pressure of the men.

Slaves/loot are often prized by them, its not uncommon for a powerful female to have her own harem of beta-men [imagine the hipster cucks] to handle menial tasks like cooking and cleaning which they don't really get pregnant by due to fact that shamans can prepare contraceptive potions.

Man, I'm glad they retconned this shit. Its just bad.

In 5e's Volo's book, they made her a lot more interesting. Luthic is still the goddess of motherhood but they also made her the 'glue that holds the pantheon together' and the one who holds down the fort. There's a blurb that says if the hobgoblin and orc pantheons (who are constantly at war) don't consume themselves with their own struggle, Luthic will probably be the last one standing.

That book pretty much confirmed orcs are massive sluts.

So if goblinoids are Israel, does that mean that they are being supported diplomatically and militarily by the Undying Lands and the Valar?

/pol/ pls go

Well, Luthic and the Orc pantheon came out when Orcs became super popular and in Dragon Magazine were made a playable D&D race.

The idea was by having comically asshole and unappealing gods the NPC Orcs could still be XP farms you don't feel bad about while player Orcs and their tribes just worship a normal non-shit deity.

So by making all Orcs mysoginists who would cut off the clit and labia of their daughters if they even thought of them as sapient, and would make their wives wear hijabs if females were even worth wasting the cloth on, you have villains you don't even have to think about wiping out.

They made the metaphor, not me.

Although some Maiar taking up the cause of de-eviling the goblins post-Sauron isn't far fetched now that I think of it.

they be queens

I'm guessing Orcs in your setting tend to cultivate Silphium or some other-such abortive plants, as well?

Let's just say that there's a good reason why orc men are constantly going on scouting missions, raids, and otherwise trying to get AWAY from the lairs.

That and just using good old divine magic user

same role as the men.

fightin' and winnin'.

Nurn (southern Mordor) has a lake and actually decent farmland. The more you know.

Orc women are disgusting.

Orcs are sequential hermaphrodites: during the mating season, instinctively male orcs will start fighting, and only the winner stays male, the submissive losers become females for mating purposes. In addition, orcs are coldblooded, hence averse to heavy armor which hinders their sunbasking, and they lay eggs which are buried in the sand and hatch on their own over time.

You know the women in Sparta? There you go.

Naked Oil Wrestling?

>Are orcs particularly cruel? Are there Orc tribes where women are treated as breeding stock and shackled, while a continent over there are Orc Amazon women that treat men just the same?

>angry orcs threw unruly women into the ocean
>eventually other neutral women got mad at that
>so they got thrown into the water too
>male orcs started standing up for them
>into the FUCKING water
>eventually they began herding them all into one prison because everyone was getting uneasy with how many people seemed to be getting thrown off of cliffs these days
>orcs build a big ass boat and herd the prisoners on it, latch it to another boat and drag all the dissenting parties to an island across the bay, barely visible on the horizon
>kept all the submissive women, plus a generation or so of young women to groom into the new standard of 100% submission
>dropped the amazons off with nothing, the males being betas didn't do shit and the women did everything, setting the tone appropriately

Dunno if the amazons would come back and wage war or not.

Probably would eventually

Nope, chariot racing.

naked right?

For my setting, the women are the magic users. They have a higher aptitude for it than the men. They often take up Druid or Sorcerer as a class depending on how their magic forms. most tribes practice segregation of sexes, with two chiefs for both the male and female sides. Males form the physical front, acting as the melee units due to inborn martial prowess, while the females act as battle mages from the back line, or skirmishing units in the case of particularly powerful Druids with Wild Shape capabilities. Mating rituals tend to be contest based, with men and women competing against each other to see who stands next to whom in power. The strongest of the new generation couple together, and down in power rank from there. The weakest past a certain point might not be allowed to breed while part of the tribe. Love in Orc communities is rare, but not unheard of. Though such events are not held in high reverence, and incompatible capabilities make many Orcs afraid for the weakness of the offspring of such pairings. If Orcs seek love as a reason to marry, they likely leave the tribe of their own volition unless they can prove themselves as a couple to the entire clan and the Chiefs.

True orcs are eight feet of muscle, and have no equipment in their downstairs, as they are grown in vats and molded into the finest warriors the world has ever seen. There are only a few thousand of them left, they cannot die of old age, and they mostly hang out on a series of sunny islands, sportfishing, eating coconuts, and beating the bajeezus out of each other for funsies and to keep their hand in. The last time anyone tried to fuck with them, they burnt the whole city-state to the ground, so for the last couple hundred years it's mostly been getting a nice olive green tan and trading fish and training for large amounts of drugs and exotic materials for their hammocks.
The closest thing to classic D&D orcs are hobgoblins, who run on a strict caste system. Women are roughly equal to men, they might use a horsebow that's a little smaller than their husbands, but are said to be particularly clever when it comes to poison manufacturing.

>and the one who holds down the fort.
Are Orc forts really that flimsy that they have to be held down to not break apart? Seems like it'd be next to impossible to hold it of you also need to hold it down.

thought the sword was a dick in the thumbnail

They kill and plunder and rape elves.

Depends on the setting. In mine' they're pretty much on equal footing but usually end up doing most of the work in a given horde, since the guys are all too busy inventing things and being great hosts to visitors to remember the little things like feeding the cattle or planting the crops.

Then again, my orcs are pretty much a society of texan Hulk Hogans heavy on southern hospitality and with a bit of Junkrat mixed in.

In all seriousness, what's the deal with Orc women? What role do they play in Orc society?

i'd read about that
>no thicc orc woman will ever joyfully cook you a meal

In my setting, most orc tribes are pretty egalitarian. Physical differences are minimal, and orcs breed fast. The most important social distinctions are between elders/shamans, warriors and slaves.
That said, it varies from tribe to tribe, because some live in harsh enough conditions that they tend to force their women to birth as many kids as possible. The PC's current... boss, well, who was supposed to be their main antagonist until they decided to work for her, comes from a pretty misogynistic tribe.
She wasn't strong, yet she was ambitious, ambitious enough to proclaim she'd be king someday. So her father nicknamed her Khan in derision, an ironic male name for a female nobody. Although she grew up stronger than say, a human, she never got enormously powerful, but she had charisma and wit, and a way to rally people behind her and rouse them to fighting. She left.
Then, a few years later, after adventuring enough with some other outcasts and getting some sweet loot, she came back and made good on her name.

its a lot easier if you are an asexual, self-reproducing ambulatory mushroom

Sucking the BHC