Why do people still deny that altmer are the master race of TES?

Why do people still deny that altmer are the master race of TES?

>based on morrowind stats they are nearly twice as smart as most humans
>naturally extremely adept at magic
>eugenics has made them resistant to disease
>millennia long lifespans
>basically 7 foot tall super aryans

Also

>annihilated the empire and cucked the nords

But they're still evles so.

>not hist

Let's see you survive to the next kalpa.

>morrowind stats
literally not canon

ok

>muh racism

Um no sorry sweetie, try again

As if Bretons didn't steal the best of your traits. On that subject, Brets are still chaotic decedents of Lorkhan, meaning their lives matter an iota. Altmer are just the metaphysical equivalent of tools and shills.

Do you ever think Altmer in Tamriel make threads about the master race of earth?

Their too proud for that

In sure the nords shitpost endlessly about how they was divines and conquerors and shit though

Bretons had some good traits rub off on then yes

But their manlets and decidedly less magically inclined

It's implied all the times that high elves are more intelligent and that certain races such as orcs and nords are slower

>he thinksa mace will be useful against a mage that can vaporize your from 75 yards away

Ishygddt

Why are they shorter than other humans, anyway? You'd think with elf genes they'd be between the two races, not shorter than both.

Reminder that Bretons are the true master race of Tamriel.

>Naturally talented at magic.
>Naturally resistant to magic.
>Adept at martial skills to boot.
>Great diplomats.

Second place belongs to Wood Elves

>Best god damn archers on Tamriel.
>Have the best body coordination and martial skills among elves.
>Can use a ritual to shapshift into monstorsities to kill of their enemies as a last measure.
>Religion that makes them stronger - hunt for meat or die.
>Have the best looking chicks of all races.

Meanwhile Altmer

>Are weak to magic.
>Have piss skin.
>Can't breed for shit.
>Are the fantasy equivalent of Jews.

>>Best god damn archers on Tamriel.
This is important because wars are decided on the mystic art of stealth archery

Not to mention that Shapeshifting into monstrosities that devour everything.

Read up on Woolf-Deer.

Also the Wood elves slaughtered their way all the way across Tamriel to the middle of Skyrim just to kill that one arsehole who was riling up Nords to genocide them.

And they are so exceptionally stealthy to boot.
But they're also basically one coat of body hair away from being Khajiit

Reminder that All oblivion portals in BlackMarch had to be shut down by Dagon halfway through the crisis because while everyone else was getting fucked the Argonians decided to INVADE HIS REALM and were succeeding in their endeavor. They then proceeded to rape Morrowind and also succeeded in their endeavor.

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He hits your in the balls from 100 yards away in such a way that all your children retroactively become effeminate khajiiti cuntboys.

Everything in TES is magic if you practice enough.

>Elder Scrolls
>Magic doing anything

Everyone that matters will have 90% resist stacked on 80% absorb. Altmer literally specialize in something worthless.

Because they are stuck up fags who act like spoiled children, Dunmer are way better.

>implies mages are useful when even the elves still field foot soldiers who beat things to death with clubs therefore meaning they have not been rendered irrelevent by magic like how firearms rendered melee irrelevent IRL.

Fireballs are for apprentices, you can't resist having the metaphysical rug pulled from under you by an asshole mystic with too much free time on his hands. Or by a lunatic who practiced martial arts so hard he can cut your hair with a quarterstaff.

>like how firearms rendered melee irrelevent IRL

Which is hilarious, considering Longbows were the superior weapon to use during the period of musket lines and bayonet charges.

And Crossbows were always better then Firearms until cartridge firearms came about

I can understand being this ignorant ten years ago, but nowadays I don't know where you people are still coming from.

Elves die, Lorkhan laughs. Go play WE WUZ AEDRA AN SHIET somewhere else, Legolas.

I know this is Veeky Forums, but this is also Veeky Forums

If you disagree, please tell me in what way, for my education, and your gratification

>annihilated the empire

Funny way of saying "easily baited into having almost their entire army destroyed in one battle."

I don't
I want to marry an Altmer qt to oudbreed my disgusting H*man genes and restore our Ehlnofey legacy that is best preserved by a glorious race of High Elves

If I shoot you with a longbow, you will probably survive unless it hits something important and causes you to bleed out. You can also just wear a padded jacket and render yourself immune to most arrow lethality outside of point-blank range. And longbows only have an effective range of 50 meters.

Simmarilrily, crossbows inflict little trauma upon the body and will only kill if they sever something incredibly important, such as an artery. Even perforated organs may not kill you in the long run, certainly not in a couple seconds and you can still fight on after being shot with one.

Early firearms fire fucking .60 caliber lead balls that blow out huge chunks of the human body and go straight through it, and only incredibly thick plates will stop it that are expensive to mass produce. They will also instantly drop a man instead of merely wounding him and allowing him to fight on. You can still load and fire a weapon with an arrow embedded in your shoulder, such is not the case if the area that used to be your shoulder is now chunky salsa. Plus unlike bows, muskets can be semi-accurately aimed and sow terror better.

Contrary to Veeky Forums armchair general delusions, bows are not good weapons at all compared to even early firearms, which is why everybody and their mother was getting as many of them as they could either the second they became available or, in the case of the English, when they went up against firearms and realized how superior they were to archers.

I want to complain bout something here, but I honestly can't.
>Red guards developed a sword technique that can literally split fucking atoms and cause a nuclear explosion
>Induril Neravar beat Ysgrimor by PUNCHING his shouts until he shouted his own throat raw and bloody, then decided death was for fags and reincarnated thousands of years later (I know that's not actually how mantling works)
>Argonians invaded Oblivion for shits and giggles during the oblivion crisis. Dagon had to manually kick them all out and close those portals because they were actually succeeding in taking over his realm.

While everything you said makes sense, I simple don't understand how when things like the battle of crecy happened

>>Naturally talented at magic
Not really, if they needed their magical talent to be raped into them.

High Elves are weak-shit and so is anyone who thinks some beanpole bitch is gonna out-do the warrior mage orc who smithed a sword long enough to reflect his dick length.

Fucking knife ears. Get off of my Orcish Log-carving forum.

>knife ears

Hit and run tactics, use of angles, and terrain advantage will always win out against arms superiority.

Redguard! Now and forever!

Crecy wasn't about longbows as much as it was about English being clever and French being the opposite of clever.

English picked the ground that favored their army composition while the French could not deploy their entire force or use their cavalry properly because they were sitting behind a giant dike.

English could put pressure on French infantry and mercenary crossbowmen because two thirds of their army were massive burly dudes with bows, and while an arrow can't puncture decent mail or kill a warhorse at long range 10,000 arrows per minute means a lot of lucky hits.

English knew how to fight armor with bows and set up their fire zones so bowmen could shoot advancing French knights in the flanks. This meant they were hitting thin plate and wounding horses.

French kept trying to charge the fortified English position uphill, and abovementioned massive burly dudes also had armor and swords and fought in melee alongside English knights and men-at-arms, meaning that despite having a bigger army the French were vastly outnumbered in each individual assault.

Capturing nobles for ransom was one of the major sources of revenue in war, so thousands of wounded French were captured during each sortie. Vast majority of French knights who died at Crecy were murdered after reaching English lines and being taken prisoner, because the English feared they would not be able to hold so many prisoners.

>murdered after reaching English lines and being taken prisoner

The English aren't even human.

Now you understand what the Irish were trying to tell you all along.

What about them? Barely anybody died from archers in Crecy or Azincourt. Instead most survived and were taken captive, then executed both times when respective English realized they had more prisoners than their own troops and could be easily overwhelmed.

Hence this is why the Hundred Years War is called the "death of chivalry", as the English basically shat all over chivalrious conventions such as not killing stupidly valuable knights.

A prevailing sentiment in continental Europe at the time.

>.t thalmor
Nice propaganda thread faggot

Just let that sink in for a moment, for all you ranger/rogue fags.

Archers had been pouring thousands of arrows onto the French knights. They killed their horses. But the knights still lived. The French knights then decided to charge on foot. And they got even more arrows hurled towards them. And the knights still lived.

The French didn't start losing men (which mostly were simply men injured, not killed) until the French finally reached the English lines and got swarmed because they lacked the whole momentum of a cavalry attack.

Pretty sure absolutely none of the French knights that died at Crecy or Agincourt had even been slightly hurt by longbow men.

IIRC, Matt Easton has a video on it somewhere on Youtube, where he mentions some primary source of French knights writing about how longbowmen only hurt your wallet, basically. Having to get your visor fixed because arrowpoints get jammed in the view slits, ruining the design, or having to buy a new horse.

Rangers are guys who range, as in roam.

And while you're technically correct, a warhorse is a huge thing of tough muscle and not easy to kill with arrows even when not whacked out on adrenaline.

A sentiment in continental Europe at this time too.

>duurrrrr lets shoot ourselves in da foot becuz muh sovereignty

At least now those limey cunts can pay back the Irish for all the hurt they caused now the entire economic sector in London is relocating to Ireland.

EU is a creaky, leaking ship piloted by USA and Germany, while jumping overboard is stupid it's also stupid to not be extremely concerned about how the journey will end.

No some people certainly did die from arrows, like the retards who left their visor open (there's always going to be "that guy") or the freak shot to the armpit that penetrates a lung. But otherwise it would be minor injuries or at worst incapacitations. IIRC most injuries were actually caused by trampling.

Destriers were BARELY bigger than Coursers. Contrary to popular belief "war horses' were not big horses.

Pretty sure absolutely no one died to English arrows during those two battles. All knights were nobles, so if they died to something, it'll be in books.

You might have something confused with the regular soldiers, or the Italian mercenaries the French brought along.

Even the earliest, shittiest firearms passed to their targets twice the kinetic energy of an arrow from the strongest longbow. In addition, that energy was passed by a lead bullet, which had much less propensity for bouncing from curved surfaces and could concuss the enemy even without penetrating plate.

Consequently, even if in total absence of armor, effective range of even the earliest, shittiest firearms was greater than those of bows. In fact, during the Imjin war the abiltity of Japanese arquebusiers to shoot up bow-using enemies from safe range (despite not wearing anything that could be called real armor) was one of their key advantages. In presence of armor, archers had to walk almost right next to the enemy to be effective.

Consequently, while early firearms were still too unwieldy to use in field battles, as soon as a proper arquebuse that "automated" placing the fuse to the powder, instead of awkwardly holding it in your hand, was invented in Europe, absolutely fucking everyone who ever encountered it and knew shit about war, instantly started using it in favor of bows, at least as far their ability to procure or make arquebuses extended. English, for example, completely abandoned longbows during XVI century.

As about crossbows, those that could compete with penetrative power of firearms were more expensive than firearms (requiring a complex winch) and took longer to reload.

Also a note, armor often could stop gunshots, but even if your armor stops a bullet cold, a bullet hits really fucking hard. At the very least a defeated gunshot will knock the wind out of you, and break a rib at worst.

My point was they are plenty big compared to humans, and arrows are already conditionally effective against a healthy human. You'd need to shoot a horse point blank if you want to cause serious harm.

>Also a note, armor often could stop gunshots, but even if your armor stops a bullet cold, a bullet hits really fucking hard. At the very least a defeated gunshot will knock the wind out of you, and break a rib at worst.
How does that go up against say, mail, transitional armour, early plate and late plate?

Your point sounds very logical, but history and physics often work in weird ways, and I wonder if a handgonne can really break someone's ribs while wearing hardened plate.

Just a heads up: what weapons were like in real life is actually not remotely interesting.

The EU is a beraucratic mess that's going to have to reform or it will go down as a German dominated Socialist Dictatorship.

>Neravar beat Ysgrimor

I don't think they existed at the same time.

>Socialist
lolno
mostly agree on your other points tho

Argonians really are the most successful.
Hey, remember the Thrassian Plague? Or the Knahaten Flu?

Or all those times that Black Marsh has been fully conquered by outsiders? Oh wait, that's zero.

Remember that time where Argonians were slaves of dunmer?
And when Humans became rulers of tamriel, they let dunmer to keep them, because they never gave a fuck about lizards?

It will go bankrupt long before that.

Mail is excellent against low velocity impact, but with war arrows and bullets you have a problem of rings breaking and letting the projectile through. I don't think it's possible to make mail that will protect against gunshot, you're better of wearing a brigandine and holding your fingers crossed.

'Transitional armor' is a bit dubious. You have mail, then mail with a cloth jacket with some plates bolted on (coat of plates), then you have a divergence to brigandine (leather coat with metal plates sewn to the inside) as lighter, cheaper soldiers' armor, full plate as expensive armor for rich assholes, and mail, because that thing had been around for 3000 years and every armory in Europe is sitting on a giant stockpile of it. Tempered steel plate is the absolute best medieval armor if you want shock protection, and that still wasn't enough in the end. The absolute pinnacle of plate quality also happened to be the time when firearms came into their own as the main weapon of every serious military. At that point plate was mostly used by rich soldiers to minimize the chance of getting killed by something trivial, rather than trying to facetank enemy gunfire.

> if a handgonne can really break someone's ribs
Kevlar jackets aren't rigid. Kevlar prevents penetration but you still take all the kinetic energy of the round. Plate is rigid armor, it absorbs kinetic energy. The only two ways to bring down a man in plate were either to wrestle him down or to somehow manage a solid blow straight to his helmet with a polearm; plate armor would turn nearly anything else into a glancing blow. But plate's rigidity also means it can't effectively hold against a bullet, so the round will simply go through, possibly even shattering, and mess up your innards.

So, plate either turns a bullet into a harmless glancing shot, or does almost nothing and you suffer a normal gunshot wound.

Okay, remember when the Akaviri were gonna wipe a joint Nord-Dunmer taskforce, but an Argonian slave chick had a Hist-vision and led an army of Argonians to the rescue?

Or how about the time the Dunmer HAD to give a fuck about the Argonians after the Red Mountain exploded?

They're the most successful, but at the cost they pay for it I don't envy them at all.

user, it's basically a transfer union.

Bretons are manlets though which means they're essentially worthless

>calls someone master race
>calls someone else racist

>lol let's accidentaly the whole world
>that's how you ascend, right?

WE WUZ GODS N SHIET

You're still subhuman and only use from you is to make a shoe out of your skin.

Trips here has a point

>WE WUZ GODS N SHIET
Both Elves and Humans are decedents of aedra (GODZ), but everyone but Altmer got cucked and forgot their birthright
How dare Altmer to remember Ehlnofey legacy and not acting like other retarded races either worshiping daedra or dragons or fucking trees?

Because the others are not trying to grape the world on an ascension gamble.

I GET STRESSED

Wood Elves are a cool concept but I never play as one
Dark Elves are cool had Have nostalgia and magic and superiority over everything
Argonians are tough and badass and all

So which would I choose to be my favorite?!

You always take Dunmer, you fucking Swit.

The crux is why would anyone care, and how the fuck do you use that to justify committing genocide on every other race in existence and undoing the world because of your personal butthurt.

And you're sub-Hist.
See, I can resort to petty name calling too.

Unless you want to avoid the magicka/enchantment slot expenditure for Water Breathing. Then you go Argonian.

Souls dont die but continue live in aetherius or oblivion
Altmer are doing a favor for everyone, but you being a cucked human, cannot comprehend this

Swear to god to started reading this thread cause of ES, got side tracked doing homework and then started reading again and I couldnt even tell it was the same thread.

What's there to do underwater in any TES game that would require more than a couple of cheap Water Breathing potions?

Fistfight the Giant Slaughterfish like a real man.

Why don't you all kill yourselves and go do your shit from there?

Fucking this.

Potions are enough for that.

Hell, in Toddlivion you get regenerating mana and alteration spells are dirt cheap, you can stay underwater indefinitely with even mediocre skill. Just accept that you have a scalie fetish and let's move on.

Talk to me again when you guys become gods on earth.

You're forgetting that in Oblivion they also came with full poison immunity.

Who hasn't cucked the nords at this point?

Truth

Which is relevant how? I can't even remember anything using poison.

Also, still potions. You are not poisoned all the time. You're probably not poisoned 99,999% of the time. Potions are enough.

>Have the best looking chicks of all races

Oh I would disagree.

ikr
I mean, we all know that dunmer are best chicks, amirite?

To be honest senpai. Argonian women are hotter than Khajiit women.

>cold blooded lizards
>hot

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If you put them out in the sun awhile yeah sure.

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Oh I like both in their own ways.