Last time on Song of Swords: Damaged Russian goods Old Zell sensei and his student Venezuela James posts more lore (who even reads that?)
Song of Swords is a a tabletop RPG centered around realistic medieval fightan' with a ludicrous variety of weapons and fighting styles, centered around a dice pool system. It's currently in beta, and can be used for both fantasy and historical games. The Kickstarter was nearly 300% funded, and we're on the fast track to kicking ass baby.
Call of the Void: Ballad of the Laser Whales is a pulpy sci-fi tabletop RPG about fighting space-nazis and hunting giant whales with harpoons made out of the moon. Its combat system is more modern, based in the early 20th century, but can probably handle combat up to the present day.
MEGA folder containing current version of the game and all supplementary materials. Note that the latest version of the game is v1.9.9 but with additional supplements. mega.nz/#F!S89jTT7J!ozFi9GvzaFGHfBa59Ik2-Q
There's also a roll20 room where new players are encouraged to try the rules, test new rules, and find game breaking issues: app.roll20.net/join/346755/hRKd4w If you're looking to learn, post here in the thread.
We also play Guy Windsor's card game Audatia in the room, but now we have a much better way to play Audatia: Tabletop Simulator! The (official!) mod for Audatia is now up and running! steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=904774480
Jimmy! You said if someone made a thread you would post some shit!
Isaiah Morgan
Jimmy what's the most autistic piece of lore you've ever come up with? As a corollary, how do Voscans into dental hygiene?
Robert Peterson
The single most autistic piece of lore would have to be Krajini sumptuary laws. I actually had a whole chart, spanning the entire year, which stated what foodstuffs could be eaten on which day according to the ecclesiastic laws of the Krajini kingdom. This also necessitated the listing of every feast-day of the year.
I actually wrote this as part of a pitch to the head of Taleworlds (Armagan I think it was?) when we were briefly considering working together to produce a game. It was to show just how in-depth we were willing to go to create a realistic feeling medieval world, even if it was fantasy. Turns out the guy fucking hates fantasy with elves and such, that's probably why the deal fell through.
Wyatt Taylor
fucking hell
Jonathan Campbell
And so Elf-posting damned us for the the first time.
Gabriel Rodriguez
It must burn him that the best M&B mod has elves in it.
David Foster
The Unkindlies are divided into four branches. Kralchester, Belchester, Noviton and Sutthigrad. Each of these four branches is headed by a Master--a Master being an individual who has slain a Fascine Troll in single combat, and who is approved to take over by the departing previous Master. Retirement is rare among the Unkindlies but, truth be told, the Krajina is not that large of a country, and many Unkindlies end up joining knightly orders in Illegon, the Kaselreich or Galli, for the opportunity to fight more monsters. Thus, there is frequent mobility in the Unkindly Order, and any capable member may someday end up being a Master, if only for a short while.
The four Masters themselves answer to the Grandmaster. Unlike the other positions, a Grandmaster's term is for life. His duty is not the killing of monsters, but of other Unkindlies. When a Grandmaster dies the current Masters are brought to Kralchester Keep, and are not allowed to leave until they have chosen a new Grandmaster. A dead or unconscious Master's vote may be given by whoever rendered him as such. The result is usually that the four agree immediately on who is to be their leader--but occasionally it does result in protracted fistfights in the silent halls of the great castle.
The Grandmaster holds total authority over the Unkindly Order, and has the right to order any member to commit suicide. If they fail to do so upon command, his hand-picked squadron will usually accomplish the feat for him, in brutal fashion.
The current Grandmaster is Arcturus "The Grow" of Kyev, a Ruscovite who came to the Krajina with an armful of hopes and dreams. Now thoroughly dashed, the only hope Arcturus has left is that someone strong enough to kill him will come along in the next few years, before he goes insane from the Blood Taint.
Wyatt Kelly
but gekakujo doesn't have elves in it
William Powell
wtf is up with those town names Jimmy?
Dominic Stewart
>The Grow Do you maybe mean the Crow?
Jack Peterson
It's just a combination of stereotypical Bong names and Slavic town names.
I did precisely mean that. Arcturus is called "The Crow" because he is only 5'9. Ravens are bigger than crows. Most of the Unkindlies are in the 6'2 range, they recruit for size and fearsomeness. Arcturus was so brutal that they let him in despite him being less than six feet. He was an extremely capable and ruthless fighter, but his height was often a source of mockery from the other Unkindlies. Now he is Grandmaster, by unanimous vote, and they still call him "Little Arthur" or "The Young Master," but he is not too upset. Everyone is shorter than him when they're bowing.
Hunter Ortiz
Prophesy of Pendor, mothafucka.
Noah Martin
>Play a faction other than the Romans >Make me >5000000000 dark undead demon cultists late
Fuck PoP dude. I don't know how people played it. It's like Long War 2 if the battles were somehow even less fair.
Gabriel Wilson
Obviously with the SoS kickstarter development you don't have time now, but if you were to work with a game company that's not Taleworlds to make a tie-in vidya, who would you want to work with?
Jose Wilson
Blood taint?
Chase Lewis
When you get ass-raped so hard that the blood drips down and pools behind your balls then dries there (or at least starts to) before you get off the bed. Really itchy and annoying.
Nolan Edwards
>Venezuela
I heard the protestors literally burned down Hugo Chavez's childhood house.
Jason King
How common is it for all four masters and a grandmaster to preside over blood honors Jimmy? Do Unkindlies do a Witcher thing where they all gather for a season before going back out on their grim task? Or are they all kind of semi-permanently together? Apart?
Landon Stewart
Someone will link you Blood-Magic, it's an Unkindly thing. Basically as you empower yourself with the blood of monsters it has a lasting effect on you, slowly turns you into a beast yourself.
Virtually never. The Unkindlies are basically at the beck and call of the Crown, and they have internal agendas, AND they each have personal agendas. The result is they're mostly constantly out hunting shit or delivering messages or otherwise busy.
During the winter months they tend to congregate in the Four Keeps, where they get really drunk and troll each other for several months until spring comes and they can go kill monsters again.
For the entire command staff of the organization to be in the same place at once would necessitate a huge event--maybe if they were trying to induct a Din into the order, or if the kid were some kind of prodigy.
Used to be that the masters would gather each winter and discuss events, but Arcturus, the current grandmaster, disappears each winter. They say he goes off into the woods to kill and eat hibernating bears.
Ian Moore
They are grey-wardwitchers?
Logan Peterson
Basically. They're rapidly becoming my favorite faction in game.
David Thompson
Hey Jimmy, is there organized crime in Vosca?
Julian Davis
The Unkindlies in SoS and the Rahoos in CotV are the two best factions.
Mason Flores
Other than the Chiron gun monks are there any other magical societies in COTV?
Leo Garcia
>Literally Jimmy's words in the Disco "I'm don't know if I'm a Socialist, but I do know I'm a Nationalist "Wait, what happens if we combine the two... OH NO"
Jaxon Reyes
I can't wait for the Dickstab Putsch in California. Jimmy and an army of sword-enthusiasts will march on the capital and behead the entire government.
Henry Morris
But Rome at War has no elves in it.
Adrian Price
Isn't Jimmy like a mega libertarian type?
Adrian Butler
He did a political compass test in the disco and came out as an extreme Authoritarian. He thought he was an ancap but he's actually a fascist. Pretty much the story of /sos/.
Nathan Rodriguez
It's cause he has friends in Manchester. He's fucking pissed about the bombing. Jimbo turns into a fucking nazi every time this shit happens.
Maybe you should git gud. PoP is for experienced players.
Joseph Powell
People get upset some times, there's no point in judging.
Angel Thompson
But we're talking about the best, not one of the worst.
The real Holy Trilogy of the Best, 1257, Gekokujo, and Brytenwalda all have no elves.
Aaron Bailey
>no Eagle and Radiant Cross Shit list m8.
Lincoln Hughes
Brytenwalda is legit good, haven't played the others. I remember that being at sea was totally shit back then though.
John Thompson
>people caring about M&B I've never been able to get into it. I like the idea of it, but the implementation is lacking a whole hell of a lot of polish.
Owen Scott
But Floris doesn't have any elves in it.
Jeremiah Hill
>Literally nothing wrong with hanging. Brits hanged people, there's one thing
Joseph Walker
It's a ten year old game made by a husband and wife team in a Turkish basement. It was the best mounted combat game on the market for the better part of a decade and has an amazing mod community.
Thomas Wood
>it was It still is. It has no competition. No one has tried to make another Mount & Blade in the ten years it's been out. I've been stuck with this awful AI for 10 fucking years and no one is fixing it I am so mad
Jaxon Wright
What even is an elf? In SoS, they're basically just races. The only thing that unifies elves is their immortality. I'm not even sure that they all have pointy ears, or that all other races don't. It's like saying the Sí* are elves and so are teh Ælfar, and so are Santa's little munchkins while we're at it.
*sidhe in the oldest spelling, or sìth in an intermediate one (as Cait Sìth), but nobody pronounces it like those.
Blake Turner
>They say he goes off into the woods to kill and eat hibernating bears. The foolish ursas. They let their guard down. Now is the time to feast.
Aaron Ortiz
Meanwhile in Discord Manchild avers that dueling should be legal so that he can shoot liberals who disagree with him, and then gets mad when people make fun of him.
James Harris
If humans are also Din, it seems like in SOS "elf" is actually just a broad term for hominids.
Benjamin Young
>dueling should be legal so that he can shoot liberals who disagree with him Why though? Just legalize helicopter rides.
Benjamin White
>I basically like the idea of being able to provoke a liberal into challenging me to a duel and then set the terms and make them regret it t. Someone other than Jimmy for once
>Pls do not send me dragon dildos t. Jimmy
Matthew Anderson
That man is a fool. He's missed the entire point of Song of Swords. What is the central tenant that Song of Swords teaches you? What is its moral? Its lesson? Its takeaway? It is that fighting fair is the stupidest thing you can ever do. In any duel, in any fight, in any equal struggle, you have a chance of losing. Losing means you die. Your story ends. If you don't have children your lineage dies too, buried in the same shallow grave as your corpse. If you want to win, you do not fight fair. You do not square up to your enemy at high noon. You do everything in your power to avoid this situation. Song of Swords teaches you this through its mechanics, if you just look. Your chances of winning a Red/Red are almost never better than 90% -- meaning you die 10% of the time you try it. Any time you are attacked, you may be hit. The only way to ensure you are never hit is to never get attacked. To never get attacked, you must not fight people who realize they're in a fight. If he hasn't realized this truth at the heart of Riddle of Steel's system, he's a headstrong cuckservative who doesn't realize the idiocy of fighting openly.
Benjamin Roberts
Does anybody have any pic references for 13th century Byzantine soldiers, and the stuff from between the sack of Constantinople and the imperial restoration like the Despotate of Epirus, the Latin Empire, and the Nicaean Empire?
Jaxson Hall
>in any equal struggle I guess the point of provoking a challenge is that defender traditionally held the right to choose weapons and conditions of a duel. Thus he can turn the fight to his favor from the beginning.
Christopher Rivera
Truly the hero we need.
Parker Fisher
How are you guys feeling about Bannerlord, based on what you have seen? If you've taken a look at it.
Alexander Martinez
It was vaporware 5 years ago and it's vaporware today It's been in development longer than SoS and that's been an eternity When it actually releases I may have an opinion
Josiah Price
Tonight Jimmy said he would tell us about his vodka distilling project after he got home from his AA meeting, and then he didn't.
Robert Smith
Oh yeah, I took a nap. Process wasn't ready to continue yet but it looks like it's working.
Evan Smith
It looks great, but I hope it actually comes out.
Eli Green
The setting has that quality to it, where the world is completely fucked but there are organisations that give you a bit of hope. The Unkindlies are one such. They kick the shit out of eldritch horrors and they aren't even a military organisation. The Volkodavs or other military orga must fuck Monsters up hard.
Adrian Long
It takes a while, and can be messy
Oliver Clark
A recurring and interesting theme in SoS is that governments are uniformly the most powerful things in the setting. The Dark Watchers pose no actual threat to humanity because of the traditions which repel them. Goblins, Elves, even monsters and demons don't even register on the scale of national threats.
The most powerful thing in Tattered Realms is a group of humans with a common goal. Even a shithole like Dace would absolutely BTFO any of the monsters or calamities described so far. Ten thousand men with cannons guns and halberds will rekk any dragon or abomination that could possibly drag itself out of the abyss, it isn't even a question, it's just a fact, and ten thousand men would be considered a pathetically small army for any country.
The world is thus one not of giant monsters and people desperately evading them, but of whatever horrors manage to leak through the cracks between states and their fuckhuge arrays of cannons and rockets and warships and pike formations. The real threat has always been other humans. Monsters are just a garnish on a world whose chief feature is that it is as fucked up as our own.
It's actually an interesting take on HFY, because it's so understated. Humans are consistently described as inept, stupid, ignorant, violent, uncooperative apes, but they're still there, and they're not going away.
Nathaniel Edwards
There are races that are objectively better than humans. Big organized groups of those races would be better than humans. They're just written by fiat to not be organized.
Andrew Garcia
The Helians are organized, and they basically rule the world. That's sort of beside the point though, because the portrayal of "humans" can be extended to the portrayal of "people" in general.
The point remains that mortals, bipedal mortals who are more or less human whatever their abilities, are the dominant lifeform because of their cooperation.
The exception to this is the Ohanedin, who wreck humans every day despite being totally disorganized, but they're a race of Aryan waifus.
Joseph Torres
Now I crave rules for a Burdinadin Air Wing contesting Dark Watchers in glorious aerial combat.
Sebastian Watson
Jimmy seems to swing between being a massive lolbertarian and a fascist, so it makes sense that to his perception the government simultaneously the ultimate hero AND the most deadly villain.
>Bad shit is happening >The government shows up >Things either just got way worse or way better
Luke Sullivan
Imagine you have this battle, the last alliance of men and elves. Humans and Ohanedin desperately struggle against tides of bestial darkness. Their sabers flash and shine in the dying light, but they are losing ground. The cannons thunder but even their massed grape shot cannot repel the hordes of slavering otherworldly creatures.
Then there is a sudden drop in air pressure. Distant music. A beating of steel wings. The entire army turns as one, stunned, as the Burdinadin arrive.
The rocket pods open up, screaming, fiery death erupts to Wagner's heavenly trumpets.
Owen Edwards
The Burdinadin have mecha so it would be accompanied by this.
>Touch elves >Get your flesh ripped from your body by successive waves of 7.62
The Elves are this setting's immune system. They snap and then mcfucking kill everybody.
William Moore
jimmy is going to make a castle in alaska
Lincoln Mitchell
So the kickscammer rises its head, finally.
Brayden Davis
Yeah, but it's a more pleasing thing to have in a central plaza than public "art".
James Wright
>Jimmy seems to swing between being a massive lolbertarian and a fascist When nothing bad is happening, he wants liberty, but when there's premonitions of danger in the news, he prefers security. Naturally, he deserves neither.
Nicholas Ortiz
Sir, you are mistaken.
Angel Taylor
What other M&B entity induces such terror like a squad of Noldor Rangers? It's tough, it's long, it's a challenge to your ego, but it still is the best mod out there.
Robert Davis
What if it's art of people hanging?
Evan Howard
>The average Han would wade through six miles of human blood if there were a plate of dogmeat at the end.
Henry Ross
quoted from?
Oliver Richardson
Jimmy, on Chinese controlling Africa.
Benjamin Flores
Good mod. The creator is an asshole, though.
Jaxon Morales
Why are all our heroes such unrepentant assholes?
Joseph Evans
Jimmy, how do the different cultures of vosca feel about polygamy?
The Venezuela protests are getting upstaged by ISIS vs Duterte in the southern Phillipines.
Zachary Stewart
That's actually pretty accurate, if hyperbolic. When the Chinese get their mind set on something they don't stop. Ever.
Charles Allen
Genosism doesn't explicitly forbid it, but it isn't really a part of any of the Western Voscan cultures, with the exception of the Ohanedin of Iber. The Ohanedin see it as perfectly natural (probably because the men of their society regularly suffer considerable attrition) and generally four or five women share one husband, with the number rising as the individual rises in status.
The one crime which carries the punishment of death in an Ohanedin society is murdering a member of your own family. An easy way to prevent powerful women from scheming against each other is to marry them off to the same man, or to brothers, etc. This theoretically prevents potential conflict between them by technically making them into the same household. Needless to say this doesn't actually work.
Brayden Brooks
>cannibal elf harems Dark Fetish God strikes again.
Kayden Rivera
>ISIS vs Duterte in the southern Phillipines Wait, so US now tries to move pet Taliban 2.0 closer to Chinese borders?
Benjamin James
They can try, but Rodrigo Duterte makes Rade Sark look like fucking Ghandi. He's going to slaughter them like pigs.
Connor Lopez
Jimmy, in the Orredin eugenics program, what happens if one of the half elves fucks a human? What happens to the child?
Angel Reed
>tfw Jimmy is openly challenging the entire Guns of Icarus community to a duel
Who would win, one AnFash, or the entire community of an MMO? Two guesses and the first one doesn't count.
Aiden Myers
Jimmy fucking slaughtered my MGSV defenses. I'm terrified of what the entire company could do in another game. Who even is the rest of the team?
Jose Johnson
karthack delenda est?
Chase Watson
Clan [ZELL]. They have a fantastic W:L ratio.
Sebastian Thompson
Soon
Parker Torres
Jimmy pilots the ship, the rest are just guys from the Roll20. If you were taught how to play SoS, you probably learned from a member of the Zell Clan.
Adrian Gray
he pilots one of the ships, I can't remember who piloted the other but it sure as hell won't be me. Fuck flying, there's a reason I named all my ships the slow crash.
Colton Reyes
Speaking of Din, how to the population sizes compare in Vosca. Do zells make up 70% of all din and 30% of the total pop? Are dwarves more prevalent than orredin? What is the rarest race to see?