How long will we have to wait for GW to phase these ridiculous midgets out?

How long will we have to wait for GW to phase these ridiculous midgets out?
Seriously, let's just resculpt all the heroes and finish off those things.

>How long will we have to wait for GW to phase these ridiculous midgets out?

>Everyone re-buys their entire armies so that the models are finally to true scale
>But the "Primaris" Marines are no longer to to scale
>So GW comes up with an even BIGGER variant of spess marine called "Alphamarines" or someshit
>Everyone who runs Primies buys the new model so that they're actually to the correct scale
>Alphas now no longer to scale
>Cycle repeats itself
>GW makes mad dosh selling everyone's armies to them over and over again.

Genius.

Just wait for Heresy 2.0 after the primaris marines are fully infiltrated in every chapter.

>The Cawlian Heresy

Gentlement, he have 38 Space marine codexes, and have been spcae marine focused for the past 30 years. People are catching on and de,ending we stop space marine creep and focus on other factions. What do we do?

No more codexes but guys, follow me on this, Its very complex, what if we make Space marine Creep CREEP

I dont play marines but I wish they would of just flat out said that these are alternate sculpts/true scalearines outfitted in mark X armor. In the long run this would of worked out way better fluff wise and game wise despite the initial reeeing. That being said this is GW and large amounts of reeeing over any of their decisions is inevitable

Agreed. They look fantastic but the fluff is shit. Let's just purge the manlets and forget this ever happened.

But Chaos will stil be midgets even the new Chaos are smol

*th ed was going so well till this shit happened and invalidated everything about Space Marines. Litteraly invalidated everything.

What? No they aren't. Rubric Marines are substantially taller than the squaters

I aint buying any more chaos marines in small.
If GW wants to make money, they will make generic csm in truescale as well.

When GW realises that the squatmarines will be gone in a few months.

primaris are bigger than plague and thosand sons

>would of
>reeeing
Kill yourself.

>space marine
>super human
>primaris marine
>super super human
wew

I'm going to, but I buy to chinaman so I don't think GW will care much

>smol
>>>/twitter/

I love how shoped that is

Teach me your ways

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Magos Kelbor-Hal the Wise? I thought not, 'tis not a tale the Ecclesiarchy would teach you. Magos Kelbor-Hal was an Archheretek of the Dark Mechanicus so knowledgeable and so wise he could use machines to influence the Motive Force to create... Life.

Speaking of which, what is Marneus doing these days with his primarch back? Acting leader of the Ultras while Roboute leads the Empire?

No, that would work just once:
>Primaris are now the truescale
>All units switch to Primaris
>GW releases a somewhat bigger Primaris for 9th, and keeps the old primaris as normal Astartes*

now we gucci

Probably getting Primed up, so Primarines got someone to be their special character. Cato probably gets upgrade to Chapter Master of the Ultras.

What will happen to all those special characters? They are smaller than primaris, that's an ugly way to make them irrelevant.

Also how lore friendly would a primaris with beard be? Or an old one? In a 100 years, does it make any sense lore-wise?

>tfw it's your turn to prep the marine

There really should have just been a new founding instead of space marine space marines

Honestly this would be pretty cool. IIRC in the fluff when they finished conquering Earth they killed off all Thunder Warriors before crusading across the galaxy

most have been in Cryo but they can presumably be made more of, we don't know the details of how they are made, if they can be made from adults who might already have said beard or even females much of this is waiting on the final fluff release

Can we stop raping the lore already?

As the most common and most iconic figures in 40k, space marines are the standard by which eberything else is judged. By definition they cannot be the wrong size. Maybe everything else is too big. Or maybe it's a silly science fantasy game and you shouldn't worry about it.

That's reassuring. I was looking at some cool Inq28 minis and really wanter to make a bearded HQ.

Now, Anons in the thread: How would you react if a female Primarch is revealed and/or female space marines are inserted in the story? Be sincere, we are anonymous so there's no need to lie.

Is GW making any changes to how allies work or is that yet to be released?

Smells of alpha legion from sectors away

So will they adjust terminators to primaris size?

"oh neat"
I'd then make a non snowflake mixed faction, I always thought the lore on why not was a bit goofy

Google "yoyhammer" and do a little research.
It will become apparent then and it is best for the rest of us to not openly advertise or out based Chinaman.

It goes against 30 years of established fluff. Then again it's a tabletop game of plastic dudes.

The female body is literally inferior in every way to the male body when it comes to fighting. There is zero tactical advantage gained from female marines when you can guarantee a better product putting that gene-seed into a male initiate.

>muh immersion!
>it's fantasy, but I care about verisimilitude!
If I'm buying a model, I'd rather have them be pleasing to the eye, with me able to hotglue them.
Right now, Tyranids, Slaaneshits and SoBs fulfill that role, but there's never enough variety.

fa/tg/uys will complain about anything.

so its just grognards pissed that GW keeps answering their complaints, leaving them with nothing to complain about, which was all thry really wanted to do

Why are there always people wanting females.

Female Guardsmen
Female Space Marines
Female Stormcasts

Are you fuckers so lonely that you need female minis for companionship or what?!

nah, just want a little visual variety in an army

>wanting to be larger targets
It's like you don't want to break line of sight and piss off WAAC faggots by a few mm.

Only if my wildest dreams come true and it's a lawyer-friendly version of Samus.

>what is Marneus doing these days with his primarch back?
same thing marius gage did in 30k

I believe guilliman had him, agemman and tigirius handle the ultramar situation while he went to earth with the tard monkey. Chances are we'll see what he's up to eventually.

>I WANNA SEE SUM TITTIES

>Fantasy setting means every idea is valid, even retarded ones!

I'll never understand this desire to make every hobby sexual in some way. Why don't you just enjoy a game as the game then go fuck an actual woman later, or watch porn to get it out of your system?

>GW only cares about 40k
>they kill the entire game
Also, rage memes in the current year

What variety? Female marines are not going to be running around in bikini-plate, it will be the same power-suits that male marines wear. I guess you could have no-helmet fems with long hair to tell the difference.

>implying women or porn can satisfy my fetishes

>M50
>Newest batch of marines are now 80 feet tall
>Wrestle with knights and scout titans
>Bolters fire battlecannon shells

>M41
>only the mighty space marines stand between humanity and the infinite horrors of the universe
>incredible warriors, each one as powerful as an entire regiment of lesser men
>unfortunatel, the technology to produce them is long lost
>their numbers decrease every time they fight because there's only darkness in the far future
>...
>actually, we can now make them, and even better than before! Come here, ladies and gentlemen, for every 10 new space marines primaris you'll get a free rhino too!

GW fanboys will defend this.

...

>specialist game
Were cool asf, did anyone complain about it?
>necromunda
Shadow War is literally one of the best-selling things right now. Everyone loves it
>start collecting
Aside from FWfags, everybody here loves savings. Start collectings are baller
>only marines
And most of those releases are kickass (admech especially), except some of the rules were half-assed.
>7th too cumbersome
And 8th is shaping up nicely, no complaints aside from a few dissenting contrarians
>only cares about 40k
And they do. Hell, the most recent army put out for AOS was explicitly modified to be 40k-moldable.

>truescale marines
>primaries
SHIGGY DIGGY

Primaris Marines are retarded big.

''Normal'' marines are retardedly short.

>For You

How do they compare to the Custodes models?

I agree with 99% of the tone/msg of that image but fuck as a fan of WHFB to point to AoS and say see GW cares about you... wew how out of touch can you be... I'm almost certain someone who only got into fantasy recently with AoS made this.

How can marinelets compete?

Taller eye to eye, but a bit below because of the tall hat.

So Custodes needs to be rescaled once Primaris becomes standard, right? They're supposed to be better than Space Marines, wouldn't make sense for them to be shorter.

Manlets never learn

Are the managers at GW autistic? Why rescaling now that they're launching all kinds of marine-related new models?

What marine-related new models?

>AoS

Replaced WHFB. If that hadn't happened, nobody would care.

>specialist games

Apart from Blood Bowl, those are just token games made to sell some more regular minis, not actual re-releases of old games. And who's complaining about Blood Bowl?

>SW:A

Not a Necromunda replacement and who's complaining, it's even got its own general.

>discount

Who's complaining about Start Collecting! boxes? A dreadnought and some marines isn't gonna make the rest of the kits any cheaper, you know.

>not updating Marines
>8e

Only people with a chip on their shoulder has a problem with those.

>true scale marines

Except those are not true scale marines, they're Super Space Marines.


1/10, made me reply, >>>/reddit/

>So Custodes needs to be rescaled once Primaris becomes standard, right?

Nah.

>They're supposed to be better than Space Marines, wouldn't make sense for them to be shorter.

Custodes are just the swole overcompensating king manlets of the new Primaris Marine world.

they will have to phase out manlet marines. looks retarded. gw is going to make bank from fatties.

All the stuff from 30K and the custodes

I realise now why women are disgusted by manlets. I'll wait for chadmarines in terminator armours and then squatmarines will be dead for me.

How many threads are you gonna make until you let this joke die man. You've been posting these bait threads daily for like a week now, we get it.

>someone is bitter because his 10,000 points of manlet-marines are going into the trash
>someone's height doesn't start with a 6

I don't even play 40k AoS and let me tell you something: The gigantism of newer GW games is great for everyone that likes good looking models. Everything's going to be upscaled soon in 40k. Don't believe me? Look at AoS:
>Start out with Sigmarines, vastly bigger than anything from WHFB including even Chaos Chosen
>Suddenly even random barbarians and other shmucks are huge, way bigger than any WHFB humans or chaos barbarians
>And then even the Elves and Dwarfs are bigger than their older counterpart

Same shit is going to happen to 40k, eventually. Now why is this good? Because this is essentially 32mm scale and not 28mm anymore. And 32mm is a vastly superior scale because the miniatures still work mostly the same as game pieces, but they are way easier to sculpt well, especially the faces. And this move to 32mm is going to change the landscape, because Geedubs still being the big fish in the pond, a lot of smaller companies are going to follow. And that's what I'm excited for: More 32mm miniatures for all genres.

>>Suddenly even random barbarians and other shmucks are huge, way bigger than any WHFB humans or chaos barbarians

Actually they're not. Bloodreavers are about as big as marauders and Blood Warriors are only a little bit bigger than Chaos Warriors.

They are a few mm taller, which pushes them up in that scale. 32mm doesn't mean that they are vastly bigger. Just enough to make a difference for details.

Yes the primaris process can be applied to current marines as well as raw recruits, as stated in the GW FAQ. This explains why one of the marines in the Dark Imperium starter box is already a 200 year veteran per his seniority skull pins.


Also, obviously, this is so GW can slowly resculpt all marines over to new scale including the heroes like Dante, Calgar, Emperor's Champion, etc. This lore is just their excuse to gradually roll out the new marine scale, it's much too large of a project to do at once because there are so many different marine models...


It's just an excuse to make new scale marines (not true scale but closer) without instantly invalidating all current marine armies and upsetting the ultra nerds.


Thank you, finally someone who understand casting and molding technology. There are very real limitations on the fidelity we can create in small features, moving to a slightly larger scale is something I support. I think we'll see more detailed models and frankly, they just look better.

>It's just an excuse to make new scale marines (not true scale but closer) without instantly invalidating all current marine armies and upsetting the ultra nerds.

Bullshit. They've been hiking up the height of Marines in about every release. Latest Marines, like Rubrics and Deathwatch, tower over even 3e plastic Marines, let alone RT era ones. GW has no reason to jump to "true scale" and then slowly make it the standard size, when they've been approaching the size from the other end all this time.

>Latest Marines, like Rubrics and Deathwatch, tower over even 3e plastic Marines, let alone RT era ones.

But that's exactly what I said user. This is GW's excuse to make marines taller. TS and DG are new marine releases, hence they are taller. Primaris are new marine releases, hence taller. All new marine releases will probably be taller. I doubt you'll ever see a new squat marine sculpt. This is just like the switch from RT to 2nd and from 2nd to 3rd marines. Old ones look silly now.


I get why some are salty but I'm about to start a new marine army so I'm stoked.

>This is GW's excuse to make marines taller.

So the last few decades of Marine creep has been all for this?

Personally I think to or Primaris marines into traitor legions, GW should write a story about Fabius Bile getting his hands on some dead primaris and perfectly cloning them.

Include it with the inevitable Emperor's Children release

What is the question? I legitimately don't understand. GW has released remodeled and redesigned Marines many times before, yes. And this is again a new marine style being released. How is this shocking to anyone?

When are we going to get truescale primaris marines? They should be like twice the height of a guardsman.

Yes, exactly, GW has been creeping up the size of Marines edition after edition. So how exactly are Primarines "GW's excuse to make marines taller"? They've been doing that for decades without this "excuse."

>So how exactly are Primarines "GW's excuse to make marines taller"? They've been doing that for decades without this "excuse."


They didn't use an excuse before they just did it. But now they are using one. That's it friend, really simple. Not sure why you're so hung up. I guess they thought people would like the lore or they could make the transition smoother or maybe they just have so many marine models now that they realize they can't redo all marines at once and it will take their artists years to do them all properly. Your guess is as good as mine.

>They didn't use an excuse before they just did it. But now they are using one.

Are they using one? Or is this just baseless speculation founded on nothing. If they didn't need an excuse before, why now? What has changed? Do you have any evidence?

>I guess they thought people would like the lore

Yeah, except none of the lore says "this is the new space marines." These are a whole different breed, like Grey Knights. If they were suppose to replace Space Marines, they wouldn't get their own chapter, they'd just change existing chapters slowly into Primarines.

>or they could make the transition smoother

You mean like it has been for the past few decades of Marine releases? How much smoother can you get? Why introduce a whole new faction as an "excuse" to stretch out Marines when you've been doing it all this time just fine?

>they realize they can't redo all marines at once and it will take their artists years to do them all properly.

So after decades of increasing the size of SM models, GW now realizes it's gonna take years to increase the size of SM models? Wut?

>Your guess is as good as mine.

My guess is that they're 40k equivalent of Stormcast Eternals. They're not there to replace Empire, they're a whole new faction.

>Probably getting Primed up
Is it possible to turn a regular marine into a Primaris one? If so, I wouldn't feel as bad. It's just weird suddenly having the heroes of the Imperium become second rate compared to these new guys who are canonically stronger bigger and better than they are. If a regular marine can somehow grow a few inches and get roided up to become a Prime, then the old guys can still be on top which I like.

>Is it possible to turn a regular marine into a Primaris one?

Yes.

>Is it possible to turn a regular marine into a Primaris one?

Yes, their article said that old marines can go through the treatment and become Primarines as well. I'm not sure what the difference is. Like do you first make Marines and then put them through the Primarine treatment, or do new Primarines go through their own process different from converting a Marine.

Anyway, it's just speculation, but I wouldn't put it past GW to roid up some existing characters.

The real question is actually when Guard get to be big boys, too, or should everyone just by the much more reasonably sized Dystopian Legions stuff instead.

>2050
>marines now nearly life-size
>new line announced
>they're actual living, bioengineered space marines
>Matt Ward just uses them to take over the world and crown himself Emperor

Guard should stay the same height but get slightly less cartoonish proportions.

What I want to know is what's to become of the Cadian look now that there's no more Cadia?

Those new models look like shit. They look like some cheap Chinese knock-off.

GW isn't keeping marines as the brutal warrior-monk monster-angels of the fascist empire so the only good reason to keep ladies out is gone. I won't buy, but that's because I'll be sticking to The Overlord's 40k or nothing.

I should say, almost every reason. Keeping Magical Relm kids like this out is also worth it.

>implying Samus and Doomguy aren't the lost primarchs

I'm still of the opinion that it should go down like this:

>Most senior/ancient of the Primaris Marines is RG's right-hand man
>His most trusted of commanders, loyal to him without question
>Is told that in all actions he must strengthen the Imperium
>Prime takes this to heart
>After a few centuries of service comes to a realization
>"Normal" Space Marines are inferior to Primaris Marines in every possible way
>Therefore, Space Marines must be completely replaced with Primaris Marines in order to strengthen the Imperium
>Knows RG would never voluntarily go for this plan, because despite creating the PM's he still feels at least some sense of honor and loyalty for his "normal" sons
>The plan must therefore be kept secret in order to succeed.
>Begins to put more and more pressure on loyal Imperial chapters to replace more of their Marines with Primaris Marines
>Creates a network of Primaris marines in key leadership positions of chapters using them, issues secret orders placing non-Primaris Marines in the most brutal of firefights and riskiest positions whenever possible without drawing suspicion
>Maneuver Chapters that refuse to use PM's into the most dangerous and lethal war zones to thin their numbers
>Chapters loyal to RG start becoming more and more populated with Primaris Marines, while chapters that distrust PM's have their resources and influx of recruits stymied.
>Other chapters notice this, specifically Space Wolves
>Space Wolves send a demi-company to meet with RG to discuss this issue with him
>Prime intercepts the delegation and, guessing their intentions, ambushes them
>All Space Wolves but one are slaughtered in secret, but lone Wolf gets away and warns the Great Wolf of the betrayal
>Space Wolves lose their fucking minds, start calling other PM-hating chapters together
>Prime finally confesses to RG what he did
>RG is horrified, declares Prime a traitor
>Prime fights his way out with 1/3 of PM's into the Eye of Terror

...

Wait if the primaris Marine process can be applied to existing marines, does that mean they don't have to use it exclusively on children anymore?

Will we see imperial guard heroes get marined up?

It might be an extended geneseed implantation, so they might just be adding onto existing stock, meaning they all have to be marines first before they can become Primaris. But if they can start from a basic human adult then we might see some tenacious Imperial Guard getting snatched up for the Chapters.

Would be neat seeing some old characters showing up as new heroes, although it'd be a little like Halo 5 where all the badass normal humans are suddenly Spartans because they're just handing out Spartan IV-dom to everyone in 343's Halo. Which, honestly, kind of cheapens it.

Still, if the Raptors managed to snag Sly Marbo and convince him to become a Space Marine, they might actually win a battle against the Tau in fluff.

>super super human
More like Ultra Human.