ITT we post good examples of Chaotic Evil characters that are NOT Chaotic stupid

wtf this stupid hearts? looks strange

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Im sorry but all of his motivations where selfish including almost everything he did "for" H.W..

And all that shit he did to the twins was EVIL AF. Also I liked the ending fuck u

That's Chaotic Neutral at best.

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Oh, and I suppose Batlin would also count.

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>Nero
>Chaotic Evil

Please. He was lawful evil at best. Half the bad shit we know about him were lies created by the senate after his death.

You picked the right movie, but wrong character.

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Hooray, /pol/ has arrived to shower us with feces

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Literally who?

Welcome to Bizarre Adventure.

My money is on the Gentleman with Thistledown Hair.

>Nagash
>Literally who
*angry swearing referring to poster replied to being new, underage, or ignorant*

youtube.com/watch?v=-eREiQhBDIk

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>Le alignment thread

This guy reads.

Daniel Day Lewis is a treasure and the world will be a darker place without him.

That said, I don't think he's Chaotic Evil in this. He feels more Neutral (Evil). Course this is why alignments are stupid; people are more nuanced than that. But yeah, I'm happy with how I've labeled him.

>mfw there are people who don't understand the milkshake scene

Damn, you're one clueless git.

D-Fens is pretty much the perfect example of a circumstancial villain. If things didn't keep escalating he could've turned out in a very different way.

Pinhead is lawful evil. He follows a strict ruleset.

Best example.

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Micheal Douglas in Falling Down.
No clue.
Violator from Spawn.
Antagonist from Ultima VII,
No clue.
Doctor Neo Cortex from Crash Bandicoot.
Pinhead from Hellraiser.
Josuke Higashikata protagonist of Diamond is Unbreakable, the fourth JOJO series.
No clue.

Hope it helps.

Mister Myxlplyx is so Lawful Evil/Neutral it hurts. He literally has one rule that he follows to the letter. And his evilness is debatable.

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Lawful evil, user. A chaotic character would be too compulsive to exploit a lawful role.

Dude I am an unapologetic socialist and I still think peta is fucking evil.

Quite right. I love stumbling upon someone else who actually pays attention to a good movie. I swear people sleep walk through plot points like there's a damned prize for doing so. And yes, Plainview was most certainly evil, in the alignment definition. Not sure if I'd call him chaotic, though.

>Pinhead
>chaotic
>evil

The cenobite realm is extremely lawful, and the cenobites themselves are just experimental sadomasochists. "Evil" is arguable. To my knowledge, they don't explicitly target people who have no desire to join their realm. They just operate under the assumption that anyone who opens the box knows what the box is, and does in fact desire its pleasures.

>Kirsty Cotton: "Who are you?"
>Pinhead: "Explorers in the further regions of experience. Demons to some, angels to others."

"I am the revolution."

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Kefka is very much chaotic stupid. It's only incidental that his actions largely worked in his favor, and only because he way loyal to an incompetent leader like Gestahl who carelessly placed tools of mass destruction directly into Kefka's hands. Kefka never could have succeeded in anything without the might of Gestahl's empire backing him. He would have been done in by his own carelessness otherwise.

He said NOT stupid.

Also seconding Kefka.

Unironically most incarnations of The Joker.

I would argue that he successfully took advantage of Gestahl's incompetence and brutality to get away with as much as he did, and then rid himself of Gestahl and Vector the moment he no longer needed them. You said it yourself; for someone that was so stupid, Kefka succeeded in pretty much everything right up until the end. We can assume it was all a not-so-happy accident, or we can admit that, for all his erratic behavior, Kefka did a lot of things right.

My man. Mr. Norrell did nothing wrong

>I would argue that he successfully took advantage of Gestahl's incompetence

I think you're giving him too much credit. But that's my opinion. I have no idea what those writers over at Squaresoft were thinking when they scripted such a character. I didn't even care for the game.

Lawful people follow some code of rules. Trump is so chaotic, he can't go for very long without contradicting himself. He's practically a exaggerated parody of chaos.

You think? He seems rather Chaotic Neutral to me.

What exactly was lawful about his behavior?

You guys are a bunch of skraelings

The Iceman.

The Michael Shannon version if it has to be fictional.

Of course.
He's the bad guy.

I think the most telling factor is that he managed to sneak around Leo's back until he could kill Leo. Given Kefka's unfocused aggression, he at least knew when to reign it in. But you are correct, it's just my opinion, I don't have the inside track on this or anything.

Depending on his mood swings.

Definitely evil. Tragically evil, but his actions and motivations were evil all the same. It was a reaction to injustice but he took it too far and went to a very dark place.

Hell yes.

His motivations were selfish, but that's what Neutral is. And certainly, he went to far and did some bad shit, but it's not out of character for a Neutral person to do bad shit when put in a bad situation. An Evil person either does bad shit when he isn't in a bad situation, or does vile shit when he is.

Ace Attorney Investigations 2 spoiler.

Chaotic Neutral really.
And putting Yyrkoon on the throne was pretty fucking stupid but that wasn't a chaotic response so i don't know.

Are my methods unsound?

>mfw speeding at the Indy 500

I'd put him as somewhere between Neutral Evil and True Neutral before Chaotic Neutral. He's trying really hard to be Lawful Good, but he just can't get there considering what he has to work with.

>Who are you?
>I'm rich and I'm bored.

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It's not even assumption.

They distinctly know the intent because in one movie a person tries to get an autist to open it, thinking that all the negative consequences will fall on him, but the Cenobites all ignore the autist since the autist doesn't actually have any desire for what the box is for.

Being the monarch of a race of Chaos worshiping pseudo elves doesn't help either.

Like, holy shit. Who else comes close to being that shit at their lot in life?

He wasn't. He is chaotic, without a doubt, but he was Chaotic Neutral. He actively opposes evil shit just as much as he did the daily grind of life.

He was a circumstantial villain, which (usually) means he wasn't evil by default.

>His motivations were selfish, but that's what Neutral is
But he wasn't just selfish, he was also malicious. I'd be more inclined to call him neutral if he'd have been running away rather than charging towards. Deep down he wanted to burn it all. He understood that, in the end. Unless you really think that was about insurance money.

He's a hard one to pin down since he was made to be a character of confliction.

I won't die until I hear these words in a cinema.

Silmarillion stuff won't ever get made. You might as well hold out for Dancers at the End of Time.

Think of a bear. A bear is a neutral entity. Put a bear in a town, then stab it in the ass with a pike. Watch the bear tear everything down around him as a result.

That was basically Falling Down in a nutshell.

What is this, Kamasutra vol.2?

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Children of Hurin and Beren&Luthien could very well be made into stand alone movies.
That old geezer Chris is great, but come on man.

He became evil. There isn't just one way to be evil. Just because he didn't want to bring down the government like some loony white supremacist doesn't mean he can't be evil.

You guys keep calling him neutral, but he wasn't benign enough in his actions. He was all too eager to impose his will by force, and he only convinced himself it was a justified reaction out of convenience.

For cripes sake, you're now comparing a person that was tired of being pushed around and decided to be the one doing the pushing to an unreasoning animal. You can't boil Foster down like that, it shits all over his character arc.

Looks like some pretty run-of-the-mill Hindu art.

>For cripes sake, you're now comparing a person that was tired of being pushed around and decided to be the one doing the pushing to an unreasoning animal

Are you implying he wasn't an unreasonable animal by the end of the movie? And I don't think it shits on his character in any way. It was the entire goddamn point of the movie. The guy felt completely pushed by his environment, and retaliated in the only way he thought was justifiable to him.

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what, no Caligula?

That's stupid evil.

>Are you implying he wasn't an unreasonable animal by the end of the movie?
Heck yeah I'll imply that. And you agree with me. Read what you typed. Bears don't have a concept of justice user. And Foster wasn't some drooling thoughtless berserker blindly lashing out. He never shut up about what his reasoning and beliefs.

But here's the thing: Foster was being selfish. For all the shit he'd been put through, he was determined to be the one doing the pushing for a change, and anyone who got in his way be damned. And for that, for the sake of no one but himself, he went off the deep end.

Your problem is that you can't see his actions as evil because you think he was the victim and thus justified. But here's the thing about that, user: That was his problem, too!

Maybe? She wasn't all that dumb to be honest, she just happened to cross paths with Dredd by happenstance.

That last "no clue" is Nagash while he was still alive. It's a Warhammer Fantasy book cover, from the "Time of Legends" imprint.

>Your problem is that you can't see his actions as evil because you think he was the victim and thus justified.
Mitigated, not justified.

OP asked for Chaotic Evil, not Chaotic Stupid.

That's not a picture of Hillary.

Trump is Retarded Asshole while Hillary is more Contriving Bitch. There are plenty of nasty labels you can affix to her, but Trump clearly fits "Chaotic Stupid" better than she does.

OP asked for chaotic evil, not lawful good.

Most of Caligula's evil is due to a severe fever that gave him brain damage two years into his rule.