Traveller is a classic science fiction system first released in 1977. In its original release it was a general purpose SF system, but a setting was soon developed called The Third Imperium, based on classic space opera tropes of the 60s, 70s, and 80s, with a slight noir tint. Though it can support a wide range of game types, the classic campaign involves a group of retired veterans tooling around in a spaceship, taking whatever jobs they can find in a desperate bid to stay in business, a la Firefly or Cowboy Bebop.
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So which system is the Cepheus system closest to rules-wise? I'm working on throwing together my own setting for a campaign, and the Cepheus system was suggested due to it not including all the 3rd imperium stuff, but t would be nice to know which system is closest to it rules wise so I have more pre-existing content to pull from.
Lincoln Myers
Has anyone made any rules for cybernetics/augmentation in CT?
Charles James
>So which system is the Cepheus system closest to rules-wise?
Both MgT versions are closest to CE.
>Has anyone made any rules for cybernetics/augmentation in CT?
MegaTrav began as an updated/cleaned up version of CT and there is a lot of backward compatibility between the two. DGP's "Traveller Chronicle" magazine for MegaTrav had a multi-part series detailing cybernetics.
Sebastian Lopez
>>Graphic layout in the 1970s was non-trivial
I already understand that and regularly remind people of it when they complain that CT ships always seem to be darts, wedges, boxes, spheres, and circles.
The ships "designed" by JG, however, were shitty even by 70s' standards. They had an 800dTon merc design that resembled a 3 or 4 linked shoe boxes with a parabolic dish glued on the "front".
James Morgan
Does the lack of a vehicle system in CT mean that i can just tack one from MegaTrav or MongTrav onto the ruleset? Or should I just stick with striker?
William Kelly
There was another simple one in Space Gamer #40-ish. If Striker scratches the itch, use it.
Joshua Martin
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Eli Foster
Sounds cool. Are there any pdfs of it in the Archive?
Andrew Ross
I think user was referring to the AFV construction system in Space Gamer 44, available at the Internet Archive:
Are the MegaTrav vehicle rules backwards compatible?
Brandon Miller
bump 1 for jump 1
Justin Price
Any good sources for alien races other than the default half-dozen or so?
Owen Green
I generally let players roll their own, with approval, and that works well enough.
Ryder Smith
To some extent. They are derived from Striker.
Lincoln Baker
>Does the lack of a vehicle system in CT mean that i can just tack one from MegaTrav or MongTrav onto the ruleset? Or should I just stick with striker?
Depends on how much work you want to do as both vehicle design system are pretty much "embedded" in their particular rules sets.
The MegaTrav system was derived from CT's Striker. It's nice, but math heavy & detailed & very gearhead focused. You aren't going to build even a simple vehicle quickly.
MgT2e has a fast system, but its designed to work with 2e's combat system.
There's a Q&D system which I've found to be "good enough" called 'Joe's CT Vehicles". It's in the Archive.
>Are the MegaTrav vehicle rules backwards compatible?
As noted, they're derived from Striker and thus very detailed.>Any good sources for alien races other than the default half-dozen or so?
GT. Along with the Big Six, its alien books contain info on lesser known canonical alien Minor races while also adding new ones.
Asher Lopez
Nope. MegaTrav changed many things, including the powerplants and their costs because with MegaTrav they tried to go for a "fully integrated" craft design system from wagons to starships. In CT there was actually a big disconnect between High Guard and Striker which they tried to resolve in MegaTrav. This, however, leaves MegaTrav vehicles incompatible with Striker vehicles.
Joshua Howard
Huh. I'm still not sold on actually using the CE/MgT rules, but Solo is really neat and I can definitely see running it with other games. Might even run it with a bastardised cross of CT77 LBB and D&D74 LBB.
Thinking the Naval or Survey campaigns, leaning towards Naval. Naval suggests a Corvette, Patrol Frigate or Destroyer, all probably without the marine squad - I'm thinking the Corvette, as it and the Patrol Frigate are the 300dT ships, and the Corvette doesn't have a pair of fighters to worry about... but then neither have other small craft, you have to go for the 800dT DD for a ship's boat. Guess it would make boarding and other tasks more interesting without one. Maybe the Raider - 600dT, ship's boat and a pair of fighters, with a similarly small crew, plus cargo space for... er. well, something. I'll spend a few hours thinking.
Carter Butler
Do we have any more Gypsy Knight/Clement Sector material than what's in the trove?
Michael Sanchez
>Huh. I'm still not sold on actually using the CE/MgT rules, but Solo is really neat
I'm using Solo and CT as we speak. What is it you don't quite like about CE?
>>but then neither have other small craft,
Then use the CT patrol frigate. Solo gives you rules to produce a CR for ANY existing design. There's no need for you stick with the designs in it or CE.
There's a HG2 combat example in the COTI files section that I used to "test" Solo ship combat system. I was able to translate all the designs and run the battle getting pretty much the same result as the one in the example. That test and a few others pretty much sold me on Solo's combat system.
Chase Cox
>What is it you don't quite like about CE? It's scary, and new. It's just a wee bit crunchy for me, and the rulebook isn't brilliantly written.
As for the ships, yeah, I could use any ship or just make something up, but I found the suggested ones growing on me while I was stuck on a plane yesterday. Would prefer something with an official deckplan, but I may sketch some things out.
Actually... given that they're going out without their marine complement, which is kind of a peacetime patrol measure, you could probably argue for the fighters bays to be empty as well. You don't need fighters for regular patrol work, that's for when there's a war on and you're suddenly hosting double the regular crew. Either that, or it's because the only thing worse than having ten marines stuck in a ship for months on end is giving them a pair of no-shit high-speed fighter pilots to get in trouble with. There would be no survivors.
Jose Brooks
>It's scary, and new. It's just a wee bit crunchy for me, and the rulebook isn't brilliantly written.
That's all righteous. Myself, I'm using CT over CE because I've been using CT for so long i don't need to even think about it.
>>Would prefer something with an official deckplan, but I may sketch some things out.
Unless you're running PC combat ala Snapshot or AHL, sketches are perfectly fine. While counting squares on graph paper as you try to deckplan out some design can be fun and I've graphed out dozens and dozens over the years, how often do we actually use something that detailed?
>>Actually... given that they're going out without their marine complement, which is kind of a peacetime patrol measure, you could probably argue for the fighters bays to be empty as well.
Both good reasons, but I think the author cut back on the crew for "ease of play" more than anything else.
Adrian Ortiz
>players find a bioship in the center of a large comet >Break into the ship >Que Alien soundtrack >It was a ruse >Find dead aliens and a virus >Take the virus >They sell it to a corporation >Corporation was contracted by Imperial Intelligence >II is in bed with separatists >Mfw my the party indirectly assassinated the Emperor
Samuel Taylor
Consequences are a wonderful thing.
Jaxon Cruz
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Connor Collins
So could I just replace the Starship generation system of CT with that of MT?
Camden Reed
>So could I just replace the Starship generation system of CT with that of MT?
MT shi[p building is much more complex. Whether that complexity is worth the effort is up to you.
Bentley Butler
Jump-1
Oliver Williams
Anybody got any good campaign stories, or blogs of actual plays? My favorite: usedstarships.com/
Jaxson Morris
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Ian Butler
Opinion time, fellow grognards...
I have The Traveller Book as well as reprints of Books 1-8. Is there any reason not to use the later books?
What's your preference?
Robert Fisher
TTB contains only Books 1-3, so the rest are additions to either. The advanced character generation systems in 4-7 are interesting for adding to a character's history, and the additions to the skill list can be useful, but the other parts of those books are generally more useful. More weapons and a mercenary ticket system in Book 4. A percentage based ship building system and fleet combat sim in Book 5. Scout Service color and filling in a lot more details of star systems in Book 6. A different trade engine in Book 7.
And of course a detailed robot construction system in Book 8.
You are playing Traveller whether you use some, none, or all of those subsystems, so it's all good.
Austin Murphy
Whatever you do, you don't want the MegaTrav starship combat system. It is a complete dog.
Samuel Wilson
>not painting your air/raft to match
Jeremiah Morales
note that the supplements are kinda parallel to the books, and supplement 4 is generally one of the better early ones for use with books 1-3.
Grayson Reed
MegaTrav made a misguided attempt to unify starships and vehicles mechanically during the design step, then completely ignored that effort and instead butchered CT High Guard for ship combat.
Jack Kelly
Read because it explains it all. I used each of the later books when they came out, each for different reasons and each for different periods of time. With the exception of Book 5 (HG2), the sysgen tables in Book 6 (Scouts), and some bit of Book 8 (Robots), I stopped using them all. For me, most of what they added wasn't needed.
Agreed. What's called Proto-Traveller - sort of an OSR version which uses Classic's books - is also called "4-4-4" That is the first 4 Books, the first 4 Adventures, and the first 4 Supplements.
Read and heed Anons. MT ship combat is utter shit.
Thomas Sullivan
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Anthony Walker
While you're at it, might as well check out the MgT 2e ship and vehicle rules. They're much better cleaned up than in 1e (even if they are missing a few paragraphs here and there), offering greater flexibility (% based components means you aren't restricted to set hull sizes), significantly better streamlined personal/vehicle/ship rules (some of the crossover's a bit wonky, but it works much better than in MgT 1e), and offers more options for components and equipment for non 3I settings in their own chapter (there's quad-turrets, warp drives, superlasers, and a literal astromech droid in there)
Nicholas Roberts
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Joseph Parker
How much detail do you guys prefer in your Trav combat? Do you go full autismo and bust out a dedicated subsystem (like Striker, Snapshot or Mayday) for every situation, or is it enough to abstract things down to range bands and roll from there?
Hunter Martinez
All three are not just subsystems but games in their own rights. They are compatible with and can inform Traveller construction and combat, but as games themselves assume full knowledge and control (except Striker; in which you are the LT or Captain and you HOPE the troops do what you want them to do). As miniatures games Striker and Mayday are convention-worthy, and I see Striker locally).
If you want to stick to a role-play approach, Mongoose V1's ship combat is closer to that, if a bit idiosyncratic as a result.
Jaxson Rivera
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Mason White
As explained, the titles you listed are actual games and not subsystems. I've used all 3 in conjunction with tabletop RPG play.
I can't even imagine most current RPG players understanding Striker let alone using it. Striker's focus on squads means single PCs aren't going to matter.
Mayday is a streamlined version of Book 2 ship combat. I routinely use the movement portions of it: 2D vector movement on hex map. Depending on the situation, I''l then use either Book 2 combat because of it's PC focus or HG2 combat because of it's wargame focus.
In a similar fashion, I use Snapshot's movement rules with Book 1 personal combat. For more of a wargame focus, but still at the individual level, I'll use the AHL rules. They can be best described as Snapshot's movement rules with Striker's combat rules.
Ryder Stewart
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Brayden Ward
So, sword worlder's or darrians?
Nicholas Collins
Sword Worlders can't agree on who pays the bar tab even after a fight, so Darrians for me.
Samuel Bennett
Darrians for me, mostly because they're (mostly) a Human Minor Race and therefore somewhat different from the norm.
The Sword Worlds are little more than the constantly squabbling loser descendants of the losing side in a forgotten civil war. Also, their whole Norse/Viking schtick is about as authentic as the "Plastic Paddies" who march around getting drunk every March 17th.
Noah Evans
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Blake Sanders
What kinds of planetary governments have your PCs interacted with?
Ian Cox
mostly human?
Jace Sullivan
You know Cabal from Command and Conquer? It was Cabal from Command and Conquer
Parker Price
Interacting with more than a few permit stampers or the occasional clan head means you've probably been a bad person where someone could see you.
James Diaz
Or you're actively being bad in a very large-scale way and they haven't spotted you yet.
Luke Myers
Many different kinds, but admittedly the functional ones have been either boring (All your paperwork is handled swiftly and professionally!) or terrifying (Now that you have killed the undercover police operative trying to catch you for buying military equipment, a planetary manhunt commences!).
The dysfunctional ones have been more fun, such as a totalitarian cult of personality where they were first beaten and imprisoned for walking by a picture of the Great Leader without bowing, but then (once a terrified official realized they were offworlders) moved to a mansion as "guests". A few weeks of smiling and waving at mass rallies later somebody actually looked at their case and realized they were nobodies who could safely be thrown out, prompting a ride back to the space port in an APC.
Christopher Morgan
>mostly human?
Read it again. The Darrian population is mostly made up of the Darrian HUMAN MINOR RACE.
Those with only Darrian genetic heritage make up ~75% of the population, those with any amount of Solomani genetic heritage are slightly over 10%, Aslan are slightly under 10%, while the remainder are humans & aliens from the Imperium and other places.
Isaac Green
As with so much of Traveller; It Depends.
In a classic 3I/OTU "trade & travel" campaign planetary governments rarely matter because the PCs rarely cross the port's extrality line.
I do love flipping players' expectations regarding governments like having a democracy enforcing "tolerance" and "fairness" through constant surveillance or a religious dictatorship which allows non-believers to do almost anything they want.
Brandon Allen
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Elijah Bailey
Why was the party on Space Korea in the first place?
Jaxon Baker
So I had this idea for a very light carrier that is basically just a frame that the fighters are mounted on. Pic related is how I picture the layout. Would this be feasible in MgT2e? How would I go about that? Modular hull, or can i just build each part individually and kinda dock them together to make a whole craft? The point of this ship is to jump a group of fighters (and/or bombers) into a system, have them conduct some mission and jump them back out before defense forces can react.
Jace Lopez
Yeah, probably should work... in a specialised role. Bear in mind you'll want some hangar space and recovery space for damaged craft and maintenance, and as part of a fleet you'll want a dedicated support craft for handling the small craft en masse.
I'd try building the whole thing as a unit.
Also that "2dT wide spine" is awfully narrow and is going to be a pain in the arse for your maneuvering, and even worse for shuffling crew around to launch.
This is not a carrier for any kind of sustained operations - hell, even rearming ordnance is going to be a shitfest.
Actually, thinking about it, it feels like someone used the frame for a modular freighter to rush out a carrier - the freight modules are supposed to link up and give it some structure, and it's getting fleet-range jump because it's got fighters instead of bloody great cargo modules.
Aiden Flores
Yeah, it's definitely not meant for fleet operations or extended missions. It's strictly "this neighboring system is building a new mining station, let's wreck it".
> it feels like someone used the frame for a modular freighter to rush out a carrier Those were my exact thoughts.
Do I need hangar space if I have cockpits or can they link up to standard airlocks? I thought about making the spine just a hollow frame, without any atmosphere or gravity, so the pilots would have to put on suits and climb across the frame to their fighters, which would eliminate the whole airlock/docking space problem
Tyler Davis
They can link up just fine - the traveller standard for small craft is that they take up nothing more than their hull displacement in hangar space, plus or minus the 20% slop you're allowed for the deckplans to look pretty.
Just, y'know, maintenance and stuff. But for your use case, this is a decent way of getting a strike out as long as you have recovery options for those expensive crews and birds.
I've seen a vacuum framework used in some sf books, I'm pretty sure. Just get your pilots ready and in the cockpit an hour before launch to avoid trouble. What's that? It's ludicrously uncomfortable to stay in a cockpit for hours on end doing nothing? Be glad they didn't stick an automated cold berth in whatever free tonnage your fighter had or adjacent to the airlock, in the spine, mate, because that has to be a shittier experience even if you're asleep for most of it.
Eli Allen
>traveller standard Most editions have options, ranging from form-fitting slip to supposedly cavernous landing bay (depending on edition). CT is only the standard for those who refuse to open the toolbox.
Josiah Jones
yeah, yeah, but most of them at least allow the 100% option, which makes it standard even if there are other heretical editions with other options.
>I don't believe half the CT77 supremacy I shitpost about, but it is my favourite edition
Tyler Long
I can't help but feel having acorridor linking two pressurised areas non-pressurised is going to run into logistics problems. Either it is never pressurised in which case the time in jump is a right royal pain the arse, or if it is pressurised some of the time you end up needing twice as many airlocks.
I agree a 2dt walkway seems tiny, but at the same time it seems a bit of a waste of tonnage to me. I suppose if it's a retrofitted freighter used by pirates or other small organisations then it works.
Jack Morgan
>Would this be feasible in MgT2e?
There are two kinds of feasible. The first kind of feasible is "Can I build it using the rules?" and that answer is "Yes".
The second kind of feasible is "Would anyone in-game being fucking retarded enough to build this?" and that answer is "No".
There are so many fundamental problems with the "design" like a lack of repair hangars, the inability to rearm and refuel, or the circus routine pilots will need to perform to enter and leave their fighters that they cannot be listed in a post with 2000 character limit.
If you want/need a "quick & dirty" fighter transport. you're going to commandeer a couple large freighters - preferable one designed to carry containers and/or lighters.
What you're not going to do is waste good money and precious time building the worthless cluster fuck depicted in your sketch.
Michael Rogers
The walkway isn't costed in the dtonnage of the ship, though, it comes out of the 10%-20% extra you get for connecting spaces and shit on the plans.
You could consider having the fuel tank up front and the engines at the back with the bridge and living space, call it using the fuel (compartmentalised) as shielding or something. Slap on an access crawlway to some avionics and maybe an emergency backup piloting station/airlock/whatever, but keep the people at the back?
Julian Barnes
The only way I can see this thing being viable is coming from a world that barely has Jump tech at war with another world that barely has Jump tech.
Its too early in their FTL development for them to know what the fuck they're doing, so they come up with ideas that only work on paper.
Also, it should be vertically oriented so the corridor is a ladderway, rather than a hallway.
Angel Powell
Except what if all they have access to is something small and cheep, and staff who can do a retrofit.
It's a one trick pony which gets the fighters into a fight and home again. Repairs and rearmament can happen back at base.
The pilots don't really have to worry about jumping into their ships in a hurry, they probably spend the last few hours of the jump in their cockpits ready to go as soon as they his realspace again.
The bigest problem I can see is there is nowhere for fuel tanks, which will need to be big enough to handle 2 jumps worth of fuel...
Isaiah Perez
It's basically a technical. Nick or "requisition" a bunch of freighters from the civilian lines, set them up to carry fighters, jump in and blow relatively poorly-defended stuff up because fighters can be a massive force multiplier done right.
Nathan Bell
>Except what if all they have access to is something small and cheep, and staff who can do a retrofit.
What you're failing to understand is just WHY such a piss poor design would exist in the first place. If they're retrofitting a preexisting ship into a fighter transport, just what sort of job did such a worthless piece of shit do in the first place?
All the problems it has as a fighter transport apply to it's alleged earlier role as a modular freighter.
Elijah Foster
>It's basically a technical.
A technical started off life as a useful pickup truck. What sort of job could this "knitting needle" possibly do?
Lucas Baker
Nah, if the modules were big enough compared to the fighter loadout you could get a better jump range out of it, either by upping the computer or making multiple jumps and accepting that it won't be strategically fast - good for a sneak attack, basically.
the modules would presumably brace and form a stronger hull than the bare spine, like in the modular cutter, which in several editions flies like utter shit without a module.
It's not great, but I can see someone building it, especially if it's cheap. Hell, if it's modular enough with regard to the engineering section, they may be shipping in higher-tech jump drives than they can build natively and fabricating the rest themselves to build up their shipyards while they tech up to a more modern standard.
Thomas Cook
carry a bunch of cargo through space and jumpspace. drop modules and attach new ones. it's a scheduled freighter doing regular bulk runs.
Liam Harris
>the modules would presumably brace and form a stronger hull than the bare spine, like in the modular cutter, which in several editions flies like utter shit without a module.
While the modules could in certain designs, the fighters most certainly won't. So, what's your next excuse?
I can't wait to read how you'll "explain" having the crew bunking & eating so far away from their work stations in engineering.
I repeat this again: The design is PISS POOR in a merchant role and thus will be even worse in a military one.
Noah Scott
Do note that including fighters attached to the exterior of the hull (use docking clamps, Hg2e p. 43) will increase the total dtonnage of the ship, which will decrease the %space of the Jump drive, thereby reducing the Jump rating of that drive. [See also HG 2e p. 37 for external drop tanks rules]
Let's say you have a 400dton hull, with, say, a Jump 3 drive, taking up 7.5% or 30 dtons of space. If you attach 4 20 dton fighters, your total hull is now 480 dtons, and that 30dton jump drive now only occupies 6.25% of your ship, which drops your Jump Rating to 2. (HG 2e p.14)
This is not the case with small craft carried in the interior of the vessel (because magical future Jump maths are dependent on displacement and not mass, for whatever reason).
>because fighters can be a massive force multiplier Interestingly, because of the way the fiction was developed in earlier Traveller (and certainly carried into Mongoose), small craft are, generally, not much more than a nuisance to larger ships, and are certainly not a threat like modern aircraft are to, say, a fat ocean freighter.
Your average small craft pulse laser deals 2-12 damage, which isn't much for even an unarmored 1,000 dton light freighter which boasts 400 Hull, much less a 80Kdton cruiser with 16 armor and 40,000 Hull.
Noah Morgan
Traveller fiction typically has internal carriage for various reasons. External cargo is available in Mongoose (High Guard 2e p. 39) although landing a craft loaded with external cargo racks is quit difficult and un-streamlines the ship, which makes refueling from gas giants quite difficult.
It's certainly not my place to question the tone of others, but just FYI, its your fairly non-constructive tone in a lot of threads that are driving posters (including our forlorn former OP) away from these threads.
Zachary Nguyen
>It's certainly not my place
But you did so anyway.
Suck it up, faggot. I don't give a flying fuck about your fee-fees. I'm sure you can find a hug box somewhere in which to post.
Logan Sanders
Though there are some critics, I can see this design working. The Executive Board for Military Affairs will be delighted! It is everything they requested: >Cheap >Can be built using existing hardware >Really uncomfortable >Cheap >Unpressurized frame structure keeps tonnage and running costs low >Cheap
I'll call this the THIS-class, for Transport for High-velocity Intercepts and Strikes. Although the test crews somewhat jumbled the acronym to Strikes and High-Velocity Intercepts Transport, for some reason.
Julian Perez
Gee man, i know it's shit. That's kinda the point. It's a retrofitted mess, and nobody in their right mind would use it to fight an actual war. It's used as a carrier for raids and will horribly fail at anything else. No need to get touchy
Owen Brooks
It just hit me reading that if the ship's original purpose was to carry cutter modules and one or two cutters, then it could make some sense, given that Adventure 7-Broadsword has fighter carrier cutter modules.
They just dumped the open frame modules and stocked up on habitat and fighter modules.
James Martinez
Come on guys, don't let this one user kill a nice discussion. Tell me about the ship designs you have come up with
Robert Butler
I made a design that is basically an inbetween subsidized trader and a Free Trader Here's the specs 300 Tons Cost: 54,425,000 120 Hull points Basic Systems 60 Power Heat Shielding Titanium Steel - 75 tons used 9 Armour M-Drive 1 - 3 tons used 30 power J-Drive 1 - 12.5 tons used 30 power Fusion (TL8) - 14 tons use, 200 power can be used Fuel - 30 tons for J-Drive, 2 tons for Power Plant (4 weeks) + 40 allocated 72 total Bridge - 10 tons Computer – Computer/15 Manoeuvre/0 Jump Control/1 Evade/2 Library Sensors - Civilian Grade (-2 DM) 1 power 1 ton used Weapons - 3 Fixed Mount Hardpoints with Pulse Lasers 12 Power used Staterooms - 4 Double Occupancy 16 tons used Common Areas - 5 tons Airlocks - 2 Docking Space- 44 31 Cargo Space Crew Req - Captain, Pilot, Astrogator, Engineer, Gunner*3, Medic
Ethan Gutierrez
Mind you this was my first design and I had to go through it like 30 times because I fucking hate math
Adam Baker
Eh, i had the same problem. The math isn't much of a problem after you've done it a few times. Looks good on a first glance, but I'd use a Computer/10 bis. What's the TL?
Wyatt Stewart
iirc this was for an middle - stellar stellar empire, I think the TL cap was 9 for my setting (though I would later go on to increase it as time and player influence dictated).
Jacob Gonzalez
Also I think at the time I last altered this design I misunderstood how computers worked in this setting.
Thomas Torres
Here's another design, the biggest one I ever made
There was a section of the map that received little interstellar traffic despite being close to the wealthy high-tech, high-pop world they operated out of. They wanted to find out why loads of traders went rim-ward, but very few went coreward.
At the Space-Best-Korea there was literally a sign at the X-T line saying "We can't help you if you cross this line. Please don't." They wanted to find a buyer for their speculative cargo, so the sign didn't deter them.
Another high-light of that trip was the time the party got their organs stolen, because they underestimated the locals. TL 0 doesn't equal helpless, at least if you can sell a cash crop to buy TL 13 stuff that you get shipped in two weeks.
Angel Anderson
Any suggestions for how many sectors/subsectors/systems is a good amount for a setting with ~6 "major" races in the TL 10-13 range and maybe ~12-18 "minor" races at tech levels below that (beyond what they can trade for)?
Noah Kelly
Six major players and about twice that number in minor players can be done in a sector at lower jump ranges, but each increase in jump ranges changes the strategic picture and tends to unify former rivals through conquest and alliance. Look at Far Frontiers/Afachtiabr, The Beyond, and most of the Gateway region at the Traveller Map for examples.
James Watson
What've you done with Foreven, or Foreven-esque sectors, anons?
Aaron Diaz
I like to just let the RNG take its course every time my players jump into Forereven-it always means something different and interesting for them to come across.
Gabriel Rogers
The CT adventure "Leviathan" suggests that the commerce umbrella of the Imperium, and by implication other states, has a huge effect on prosperity when allowed to. Looking at Foreven we see two border states and a chunk of Zhodani space with a lot of in-between.
In other words, lots of backwater shit holes.
You want to be a ship driving douchebag with no consequences, Foreven's in-between in the place to do it.
Just don't for a minute think you're the first one to have tried it.
Isaiah Jones
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Sebastian Torres
>much less a 80Kdton cruiser with 16 armor and 40,000 Hull. But the hull size table only goes up to 5kdT. :)
Yeah, I should have put "in small ship universes" in there. Each CT fighter is a turret that only costs the carrier 12dT (32-34dT for a ship's boat) rather than the usual limit of one per 100dT.
Adrian Russell
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Oliver Morales
How do I make my aliens not seem like complete rubber forehead aliens? I want the players to still be able to communicate with them.