Hour of Devastation: Card/Lore Speculation Thread

That would make the card too good.

Wow it's fucking garbage

Archenemy was spoiled today, looks like the people of Amonkhet are super fucked.

magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/archenemy-nicol-bolas-preview-2017-06-05

Attached is the link, no new cards for standard, but lore goes like this.
>Gates Open they lead to outside
>Bolas shows up
>Bubble disappears
>Horrors from the outside invade and just kill people left and right
>Bolas sends Locus, mind control, makes horror clones, and other twisted shit to kill the navies of the plane

No mention of the Gatewatch, the 5 gods, the three other gods, or the demon lily is after on the archenemy cards.

well, they deserve it. If Samut is the best planeswalker they can produce

>the three other gods, or the demon lily
Don't see any of this - mind to point which ones?

>Don't see any of this - mind to point which ones?
>magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/writing-wall-2017-04-12
Mention of eight gods, three of which are missing.

>magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/puppets-2017-01-25
Razaketh is on Amonkhet.

What is that beyond the gates to the afterlife? I remember that Lili's demon was beyond the gates, could that be him?

What's the speculations on what's going to come out? More White Zombie Power obviously. Probably some Bolas Lore Cards and spells... did Green get much in Amonkhet? I can't remember.

>Razaketh is on Amonkhet
Oh yeah. I thought you mean that Lily somehow changed into demon - my bad

Green got a lot of good solo and hybrid colors. White also got a lot of good stuff to, so Grixis is going to get a lot of love, but don't count out green since it gets a walker slot with samut.

Bontu's Autistic Screeching.

Characters you want to hug in MtG
> Bolas/Ugin
> Momma Emrakul/Hazorat the Pervert
> Avacyn
> Merlady first speaker of the Simic
> Every single moonfolk
I would unironically pledge allegiance to Bolas if he paid me in hugs.

Nahiri
Emrakul
Liliana before sparking
Karn
Fumiko the Lowblood

Because they ARE ass right now.
Development decided that there should be no four mana wraths so that the five mana ones with upsides would see play. They also decided that two mana targetted removal (or even three mana targetted removal at common or uncommon) was 'too much' for limited.
And counterspells in general have been nerfed to shit since exactly Invasion/Odyssey. Counterspell itself hasn't been printed in a standard-legal set since 7th edition, the default is 1UU for counter target spell, and apparently soft countering is too good as well when it makes them pay even as much as the soft counter requires to cast.

Fuck I forgot Lili
I would hug Lili pee or post mending if I wasn't gonna die from it.

>When you cast Bontu's Last Reckoning, exert your lands.

Creatures are better now

I hope Samut dies and doesn't join the Gatewatch. I don't know if they could make uglier art, but I would hate to see the result if they tried.

Fatal Push and Disallow were just last block.
>b-b-but it's not as good as the actual Counterspell!!
They're not printing counterspells as strong as Counterspell and they haven't for 14 fucking years. Get over it.

You just know they are going to add an ugly strong independent black women whose only personality is #resit so they don't offend their nigger consultant sheboon.

God I fucking hate this hideous excuse for a cultural advisor. For a group that whines about cultural appropriation, they seem to forget that the Nubian's were slaves and dickwashers to the Egyptians.
> tfw wizards will never uncuck itself and go back to having qt Egyptians in anything ever.

Trust me I wish I had pic related. I am not saying don't have no black people, but for fuck sakes its like 60% black, 20% non human, and 20% Egyptian. I know they are doing an African block it's in the plans, so let the Egyptian block be fucking Egyptian. Doesn't Wizards know that black hood kids don't like Yu-Gi-Oh! Cause of We Waz (which by the way there are like almost no black characters/card) they like YGO! For those anime tities.

So they literally hired an Ambassador To Gaming and pay her to make sure that their cards are being used as the new brainwashing tool of the millennium?

They hired her to make the black plainswalker in Conspiracy 2, and then she was interviewed about how the Boros Crop Leader card in the new set is racist since she's lighter skinned.

Can you give me a TL;DR on that image.

SJW threatens company and makes false flags against herself, company director invites her to sue, nothing ever happens, he posts a message saying she's just stirring the waters.

This is why I've taken a break from magic.

>WE WUZ

> when right wing death squads stop sounding like mad rantings and start sounding more and more like a necessity
Why can they not understand games are for fun, not everything needs to be political, and people hate it when you shoehorn in diversity because it's never, ever done well.

>tfw Arlinn Kord is better than this garbage

Three dead gods?

Why can't we get pic related.

I'm still holding out for more monstergirls. Anubis a cute.

Well look at this, this is a Card from Original Run Inndistrad three years before the company began catering to the SJW's. The game would show skin and cleavage, but when we went back to Inndistrad all the cleavage disappeared.

So what does the cleavage add to the game?

I mean, we're in agreement that shoehorning in minorities where they don't belong is silly, but why shoehorn in sex?

>shoehorn in sex
>shoehorn
you know how i can tell you dont play magic?

I would consider the OG Earthbind to be shoehorned in sex, yes. You could easily depict a spell like that without a half naked, big titty bondage fairy.

My point is, what does sexy art add to the game? It's needless titillation,

I argue that sex appeal from both men and women have been huge elements of fantasy genera. Magic from the beginning has always have higher violence, sex, and occult imagery. It's part of the Magic experience, it's just clear that body images and sex appeal are being changed to appease a small faction of the fandom. But instead you go from one aspect to a sex negative aspect. Like pic related is a a women.

I think art is a huge part of the magic world, many people collect and play because of the art. Yes the game would survive with out it, but then that same argument applies to SJW pandering. With out the sjw pander the game would remain the same.

>that is a woman
its got a thick mustache.... I thought it was *not*lando calresian from starwars

everyone thought it was a Star Wars reference, but the artist cleared up that it's a women with her mouth convoying the pain of the arrows.

I think its also a matter of character too. Alesha or Anafenza being in full armor is totally fitting to what the cards are trying to convey, while Exava being in what is basically a tube top and short shorts with thigh highs also conveys her well.

I agree with that it would remain the same, but I would say that sex appeal shouldn't be required, but neither should it be stifled. Whatever works best for the characters and setting in question is paramount.

And I 100% agree with you, for me I will admit that I have a biases about Sexy art in Inndistrad since:
>It's my favorite plane
>I like sex art
>The first time we went there, we got sexy art

But I do agree it's better the Boros women are in traditional armor while a Dimir spy would be in tight sexy leather.

I mean, considering Innistrad's sensibilities I feel that it should either go full puritanical with the Thraben clerics, towards more casual like in Somberwald Sage and the rest of Kessig, to straight up intentionally sexy in the form of the vampires. These aristocratic immortal monsters are going to look as damn seductive as they can, because they're Avacyn-damned vampires.

Also yeah, Dimir in leather is a damn good thing.

My Nigga

>Implying MtG even counts for a blip on Hasbro's stock price
Most of Hasbro's money is in licensing GI Joe.

That's nice, but I'm going to pretend that's a handsome man than an uglyfuck cow.

She can say it was supposed to be a woman but she drew what she drew. Its like how when I draw a circle I make a blob, except I wouldnt try to correct anyone by assuring them that it was in fact a circle.

>Arlinn Kord
Literally who?

Still better than Domri or Samut.

Exactly.

Alternative answer: Bruce Jenner.

Bolas fucking wins is my prediction. The big question is which Gatewatch nerd gets whacked. My guess is Gideon, so Elspeth can be brought back as the major White Walker with Dack in tow.

Well that's something I can't unsee now.

None. They're going to lose and get beat up, but none are going to die at this point.
It doesn't make sense from what they've been doing with them out of the game.
It doesn't even make sense narratively at this point.
It's just wanting one of them to die.
Hopefully, they'll get split up instead of continuing to travel in a pack.
Might be fun to see Gideon and Lilliana as one group, Jace and Chandra as another, and Nissa ending up by herself

Nissa on her own slowly learning the teachings of Emrakul.

Jace and Chandra bumbling ass backwards into every single problem ever, Teeth of Akoum style.

Lili and Gideon are buddy cops.

I hope nissa ends up dead, fucking dumb simic cunt.

I want to see the bumbling adventures of jace and his mindchild ally. Maybe they can go on a journey to control their powers better together.

Not that user but what if I like needless titillation? Needless titillation appeals to me and as far as I can tell appeals to a large percentage of the people who currently buy MtG cards, many of whom I like playing the game with. Also as far as I can tell, forcing "diverse" tumblr icons into the game does not notably increase the number of gay minority trans women buying MtG product and even if it did the sort of person who would be attracted by that is not someone I want to play with.

>inb4diecisscumshitlordsboysclub!
As a point of reference the trans person I know who used to play MtG has stopped because of all the SJW shit flying around lately, the gay guys that play the game started playing long before any of this started happening and haven't slowed down at all, all the black guys that play this game could care less about WE WUZ memes and are 200% more into ogling titties than your average white gamer who will generally pause for a while on attractive art but would never admit to liking an ass. As for women more women used to play the game but less and less have joined over time and so their numbers are dwindling. It's pretty much only wives/girlfriends/daughters of people also playing right there with you if any.

I'm not saying every card needs to look like something out of Dragon's Crown but I don't see why it's such a sin for a niche hobby company to make products that appeal to the sorts of people who buy and want to continue buying that product. You could make an argument about trying to expand the base of their appeal... but that's not happening either. I think a lot of MtG players feel really confused right now why WotC seems so hellbent on making a game that is subtly (and sometimes not to subtly) hateful of them in pursuit of a new tumblr customer base that doesn't exist and which wouldn't be welcome if it did.

More people are miffed about the bad Standard(s) desu

Bolas is being such a dick to his own worshippers.

What is it meant to accomplish?

Does he REALLY need to horrifically murder an entire population of people utterly devoted to him in terrible, crushing ways?

Entertainment.

Yes.

Bolas showing up and wiping out his own personal plane seems more like Wizards just wants to have another apocalypse in the story, but they didn't know how to do it, so they just threw it in there.

Post-mending walkers in general have been ass. I remember them biggest reason they have for ruining planeswalkers was because they wanted to make their conflicts "interesting" and they couldn't do that without a world-ending crisis, despite the fact that almost every single fucking plot has revolved around exactly that.

>Alara
>Conflux is going to DESTROY FIVE PLANES that are one SUPER PLANE!

>Zendikar
>"Lovecraftian" horrors that will DESTROY the WHOLE PLANE!

>Mirrodin
>Phyrexia is back and they're DESTROYING the WHOLE PLANE!

etc. etc. etc.

>Zendikar
Yes.
>Scars
Yes.
>Conflux
Now wait a second that was awesome

>you're a loose canon Lil, you're going to far!
>Am I? Or am I not going far enough?!

>Bolas releases the hordes of horros and undead on the population.
>Liliana says fuck it and goes after her demon instead, Jace goes with her partly because he's terrified of Bolas and partly because he's a mangina cuck.
>Nissa, Chandra and Gideon fight Bolas and get absolutely wrecked.
>Bolas tries to Dreadbore Gideon but Djeru saves him and dies instead.
>Suddenly KANGZ spark ignites and she single handledly kick Bolas out of "her" plane.
>KANGZ joins the Gatewatch and they all go away leaving the festering corpse of a plane behind as usual.

>Not persecuting cooldown guy.

No more Liliana thighs, no more Chandra thighs...

If there's something I learned from Capcom being naively open with their SFV patches and some further investigation. Is that casuals abhor defensive play in every competitive setting and suits won't let you make a better product if it means upsetting nine year olds that shouldn't even be playing your product but whined till their mommies bought them the game on release day.
Counterspell AND Force of Will were in the same deck during the very first Magic World Cup.
They where beaten by Black Knight.

They've completely retconned good looking Gideon for good.

They didn't even try to make the black people in Amonkhet look like real africans, much less nubians and egyptians. They're just a bunch of ugly NY ghetto thugs in cosplay.

>Is that casuals abhor defensive play in every competitive setting
Not only in competitive setting, look at all the MMO, moba etc... people playing high damage/glass canon character are always way more numerous that people playing tank or healer.

In fact all three of those walkers have aggressively terrible art.

I stopped playing League of Legends out of a lack of just general interest years ago, but apparently they haven't even made a new healer since I left. So I'm inclined to agree with you.

"Sue me" seems to be the 10/10 way to deal with SJWs. The few that are genuinelly so retarded as to actually sue you, will never recover from the economic burden after their own lawyer handles them the bill for making them apologize to you.

Aesthetics.
Ultimatedly, SJWs hate beauty and virtue, because they don't have either.

I can't be too mad about Lili Last Hope because it makes for such a good playmat.

The current generation of executives were taught (by universities pretty much owned by the companies doing the mergers) that company sustainability is wrong and their job is instead to fatten the shit out of yearly revenue so they can sell the company and cash in on a fat bonus before (being unemployed thereafter) moving on to another company to do the same.

It's ironically for the better of Magic, WotC and Hasbro as a whole. That their executives are incompetent both at making good products, and making the company look desirable.

How much do you wanna bet they'll equate him to Trump at some point?

mobas, particularily LoL, are the most competitive esport currently avaliable.
And yes, RIOT nerfed healers, SSMB took out the evasive maneuvers they had in Melee, SFV took out some of the evasive maneuvers they had in SFIV, the first characters to get nerfed in Overwatch were the sniper and the tempo machine even when they were not the strongest characters.

And in Magic, we've lost every single defensive option because clogged board states and turn 5 eldrazi titans help MaRo touch himself at night.

Scars was awesome though.

What if they printed some cards with 4 artworks like in Fallen Empires again? Some of which would be varying degrees of sexiness from prude to nude?

Wait why do the ridiculous balloon boobs look way more fitting on Liliana than the actual art?

The more I think about this the more I don't hate it.

It's fitting because one of her early designs was exactly this kind of balloon slut and over the years she's been toned down severely.

Because you don't dress like her unless you're 10/10 gorgeous, or a brainwashed uggo with tumblr doxxing anyone who doesn't call you pretty.

If there's anyone in Veeky Forums fiction who should look like a pornstar and show it off as much as possible, it's Liliana Vess. She literally made a deal with Satan FOUR times to be hot forever.

>none are going to die at this point.
>It doesn't make sense from what they've been doing with them out of the game.
Unless you know, the all important focus groups/market research dictate that Gideon isn't popular for whatever reason

My suspicion would be Gideon and Chandra (so they can work through whatever), Jace and Liliana (which will settle out their relationship going forward and resolve that dangling plot thread), and Nissa on a vision quest sort of thing for Emmy-chan, after which she'll meet up with Gideon and Chandra.

I just loved that planeswalker.

It's black...and it steals!

>no ugin
baka

>that blue sash
Is that Gideon being beheaded?

When that pictureof hour of devastation leaked a bit ago, it said that it effectively ignores indestructible.
Since that's kinda his whole thing as a creature, is Gideon gonna die?

It was a fake card.