My store is having a 50 power campaign to celebrate 8th ed, this is my list for it. The idea is exploit power points to get as much free wargear as possible, do you think this is a good list or could I do better with other units?
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Chaos Lord (1) - 5pwr 1 Chaos Lord: Power fist,Plasma Pistol
Chaos Space Marines (5) - 5pwr 1 Aspiring Champion: Combi-flamer,Bolt pistol 1 Chaos Space Marine: Missile launcher,Bolt pistol 3 Chaos Space Marine: Boltgun,Bolt pistol
Is a land raider worth the points? I've got Sniper Wolf Scouts, Primaris and Wulfen so far.
Daniel Cruz
There's Sisters for everyone's tastes!
Adam Murphy
kick the chosen and take as many combi plasma terminators as you can
Charles Sullivan
no
Jaxon Wright
Remember that Primaris can only ride in Primaris transports
Adrian Taylor
>Primaris marines are like plastic paddies
Bentley Long
I was thinking of using the land raider as Anti tank; would a predator be better for that purpose? Also I really regret buying Primaris
Jaxson Cruz
I want to get into reading 40k. Where do I start? I know nothing about the lore. I play nids. Don't know if that affects the decision.
Owen Ortiz
I hope those Wulfen aren't the plastic ones
David James
Why?
Hunter Long
Good point on the multi-meltas.
Anyone got an opinion on stormbolter vs flamer, also how does the Heavy bolter compare the Heavy flamer.
Henry Rogers
Lexicanum, warhammer40kwiki 1d4chan
Mega links in OP for codex and other fluff.
Christian Watson
Do you guys have an archive of older editions somewhere?
Henry Young
How many lascannons can you fit on a predator? Land Raider has 2 twin lascannons for 4 lascannon shots on a +3 so it seems fairly good, since d6 damage each
Nicholas Clark
Reposting from the WIP thread.
I want to make an inquisitor. Any idea for converting power armour into terminator armour or even carapace armour?
Luke Diaz
1000 points Dark Angels (to begin with). Should I keep the camo cloaks, or take a 6th Scout?
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Company Master in Gravis Armour (1) - 137pts 1 Company Master in Gravis Armour: Master-crafted power sword,Boltstorm gauntlet
read Eisenhorn, Ciaphas Cain, comissar Gaunt, Ahriman series, shortie Iron Within, get to Horus Heresy when you want more ceramite superman autism
Easton Rodriguez
Yip yip, motherfucker.
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Rune priest with runic armour, sword - 87
Wolf priest with crozius - 90
11 grey hunters, 7 with bolter & chainsword, 2 with plasma gun & chainsword, PL with bolter & power sword, WGPL with combiplasma & frost sword - 206
11 grey hunters, 7 with bolter & chainsword, 2 with plasma gun & chainsword, PL with bolter & power sword, WGPL with combiplasma & frost sword - 206
13 blood claws, PL with power sword, WGPL with pair of wolf claws - 173
Dreadnought with helfrost cannon, great wolf claw and storm bolter - 122
Dreadnought with twin lascannon, great wolf claw and storm bolter - 147
3 Thunderwolf cavalry, 2 with wolf claw & storm shield, PL with thunder hammer & storm shield - 188
Stormwolf with twin helfrost cannon, 2 twin heavy bolter, 2 lascannon - 279
Total - 1498
Wolf priest and blood claws go in the stormwolf. PL is "pack leader", i.e. the generic sergeant, WGPL is "wolf guard pack leader".
Aiden Watson
>Primaris Lieutenants (1) - 74pts >1 Primaris Lieutenant: Power sword,Bolt pistol >Intercessor Squad (5) - 100pts >1 Intercessor Sergeant >4 Intercessor >Intercessor Squad (5) - 100pts >1 Intercessor Sergeant >4 Intercessor All wasted points. Wait until the thiccmarines get a proper army list, either way-they might get fixed
Alexander Davis
just checked, you can get the same amount of lascannon shots on a predator that costs like 150pts less than a land raider (base) If you only need it for anti tank, maybe a predator or two might work
Colton James
Thank you Brother; Emperor Bless.
Mason Foster
I would start with the Eisenhorn series. There's nothing about nids really that I know off, aside from spess mureens killing them with ease as npc fodder.
Parker Perry
I know this is a janky photoshop, but how does this look as a scheme for primaris marines? Silver armour, red trim, gold chest decoration.
Evan Perry
Are dark eldar a lot stronger this edition ? Also how are necrons going, I have noticed a worrying lack of information on them.
Hunter Sanders
Was just working with what I have (bunch of Deathwing, Scouts), and the Primaris I'll be getting.
Ian Martinez
Any idea why Custodes still have their banner guys and champions as part of a unit instead of being split up like SM command squads and such? Custodes as a whole feel very weird and poorly thought-out.
Carson Jones
No idea. GW just being lazy I guess, that or they're planning separate blister releases for new HQs that would fill those slots
Christian Bennett
Looks like SW, kinda.
Cameron Jackson
light reading: 1d4chan on any topic of your choosing
serious reading:
horus heresy novels from book 1. 40k is kind of lacking if you dont know all about the primarchs, and what better time to read about them then during their prime
Andrew Roberts
probably mostly because they're primarily 30K until GW makes new stuff for them
Landon Richardson
I know that we can purposely take less than minimum models in a unit but can we choose which ones to not take?
Austin Morgan
Flamers and storm bolter are odd. They both need at least two to work properly. At close flamers are better 8" in any othe situation you are better of with storm bolter
HB for SoB by pure math they are better in 3+ numbers due to how AoF work and the 8th magic number stat.
Justin Jones
from a marine?
Matthew Reyes
Here we are, I think this is the most powerful 50 power list I can devise. I know another guy is planning to bring tons of those stormtrooper trucks that are really good now so I hope this can combat him. Wish me luck Veeky Forums
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Chaos Lord in Terminator Armour (1) - 7pwr 1 Chaos Lord: Combi-plasma,Chainfist
Nids are a gay NPC race who are a shit pustule on the ass of the setting, If you like Tyranids you probably won't like the rest of the setting so I suggest you not read further into it.
Chase Hughes
LAND RAIDER TERMINUS ULTRA >for 8 Lascannons on the glorious Land Raider chassis.
Jaxson Roberts
Might as well give the havocs ablative wounds, now universal split fire is a thing.
Kayden Davis
Tho for those extra points you're getting: >Twin Heavy Bolter / Grav Cannon (if Excelsior) >Reroll 1 to Shoot Aura (if Excelsior) >Ignoring Heavy penalty >2+, higher T, more Wounds
Now is that worth the price? Your call.
Luke Brown
Stop being a shit cruddace
Michael Cook
Is there any good reason not to take a chainfist on my chaos terminator lord?
- 1 hit doesnt seem that bad when it has all that extra str and -ap
Dominic Jenkins
Because you basically auto hit with a power axe, which is also a 5th of the points
Jeremiah Evans
I have no idea what the hell I'm doing with Death Guard. Would doubling up some stuff and adding tanks like this be okay?
Give or take a plaguecaster for guns for the plague marines.
Carter Rodriguez
That costs extra power, I cant afford it.
I could swap 10 cultists for 5 space marines on one of the squads though.
Oliver Butler
Post yer list
Angel Rodriguez
>Is there any good reason not to take a chainfist on my chaos terminator lord? only if you want to make it more killy against mono-wound infantry
Elijah Evans
>tfw like bugs >like the rest of the setting too Feels good not being a petulant child
Tyler Rodriguez
If you're working off the dark imperium set, some dedicated anti-tank would probably be a good thing to go for first.
Easton Myers
Warp Anons! I require assistance! I have a small Death Guard army and I feel a sudden urge to convert some AoS Blood Warriors into Zerkers and to finally build a Jugger Lord. The question is do DG and WE mix well in 8th? Also What's the best option for a Jugger Lord possy now? Bloodcrushers? Spawn?
Colton Lee
Yeah, forgot the pic.
Eli Foster
As opposed to what? A fist?
Tyler Lee
Are Predator Annihilators broken?
Caleb Walker
Sure, but are you ever going to pay for a chaos lord just to shit on chaff?
Matthew Myers
Probably like Jin Roh But in the future and fighting Aliens.
Evan Mitchell
Drop the plauge swords, give the chapion with the fist a power axe, and swap the lord of contagion for typhus: he is both better and cheaper, and will buff the pox walkers. You dont need another preditor
Noah Hernandez
The Word Bearers Omnibus is great if you want to have a look at Imperial Citizens, Imperial Guard, and Chaos.
Samuel Brown
*without the fist an axe
No, why would you think that?
Grayson Rogers
I was originally going to take a lightning claw being a night lord and all. But it seems pretty mediocre
Blake Harris
Why does your pred not have lascannon sponsons?
Jose Scott
Eh, 1/36 chance to miss, along with re-rolling wounds and +1 attacks is fairly decent. Its also more fluffy
Nolan Mitchell
>dark angels can't take a captain on bike Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
Liam Kelly
No points, but the more I look at it I should probably drop something for points for that sort of stuff.
Hudson Williams
What are you planning to throw him against? If the answer is High armor/ or wounds targets like land raiders or Tyranid Mosterous Beasts then Chainfist. If it's normal dudes/average characters the Axe or a lightning claw would be better
Adrian Howard
Heres my double-DI list. Remember, we are getting Mortarion and Nurgle Termies soon, so you might want to hold off until they get released
4 3+ Lascannon shots for 200 points on a not half bad chassis seems like it's going to make centerpiece models cry
Parker Allen
I feel like you really want dual claws with the new rules. Getting +1 attack for four points seems bretty gud to me, unless you want your Lord to have a combi-melta or something.
I just really hope GW puts stuff like the Dark Blade and other generic Daemon Weapons in the full codex, though I'm not getting my hopes up too much.
Nathaniel Nguyen
Yes, but moving robs it 1 BS, and its BS degrades with damage anyway. Its good sure, but its also 200 points
Xavier Nelson
But for pretty much the same cost (a bit more) you can just get another predator for another 4 lascannons
Ayden Long
fugg, he would feel more powerful being able to rape heavies and HQ in 1v1, but then theres the conscript meme to think about.
Magnet with either claw/chainfist would be ideal i suppose.
Austin Taylor
48" range tho
Robert Bailey
Not intentionally, no. But my WIP Chaos Lord is a conversion of this, so no Chainfist for me.
Jace Rogers
and 360° LOS
Colton King
Where do euroanons get magnets small but powerful enough to magnetize infantry models? Like Marines or Termies
Kevin Sullivan
>4 3+ Lascannon shots Welp, game's broken, may as well quit now.
William Martinez
On ebay.
Jaxon Fisher
I found some 1/16th inch magnets at my local hobby shop.
Tyler Fisher
My prediction for Legion tactics: >Black Legion: Terminators and Chosen are troops >Iron Warriors: Obliterators or maybe Havocs are troops >Word Bearers: Possessed are troops >Night Lords: Raptors are troops >Alpha Legion: Chosen are troops
Joshua Richardson
>Looking for new army near the end of 7th >Really like the look of the Admech >turned off by them being two factions >8th rolls around and fixes this >Start collecting and their battleforce box would be a perfect start >The battleforce boxes no longer exist This isnt a good pain tbqh.
Jace Perry
I could see them make legion and chapter tactics into AoS type formations you spend points on for benefits like the 7th edition Traitor Legions book.
Jeremiah Robinson
Not a euroanon but seconding Ebay.
Kayden Russell
Someone said that Toxin Sacs are good on Claw Warriors, but I'm sort of not seeing why it would be compared to anything else?
Brandon Morales
Well bad luck buddy!
It's pretty typical for last editions good choices to turn pure shit so most people make sure to magnetize even if they think they wont want to switch.
Isaac Foster
BEST LEGION REPORTING
Asher Wilson
With the outrider, vanguard and spearhead detachments, along with the patrol detachment being fairly versatile, I don't really see the need for changes to units' FOC type. You can make all of those armies now. I think legion tactics will be bonuses to certain units (GW is very fond of "reroll 1s" rules these days) instead.
John Powell
alrighty, time to scour ebay for chink magnets or something cheers
Lucas Lee
How cheesy with the new typhus model be?
Elijah Rivera
yeah, not great vs conscripts thought m8
Luis Phillips
THIS ENTIRE FIST IS GOING UP YOUR ASS, SPERGLEGION
Luke Lewis
Eh. Guard can put out 6 4+ lascannon shots for 144 points.
Isaiah Taylor
It's not for killing conscripts now is it, m8y That's what the stormlord with 20 HWTs in it is for
Austin Gonzalez
>COME FIST ME ROGAL!
Ethan Kelly
I just looked at his rules, holy shit motal wounds everywhere. And 2d6 ap -4 pistol shots a turn.
If that wasn't enough he buffs zombies into marines just for showing up.