Would you like the chaos gods more if they stood for more noble things and less MUH EVIL like in the old lore?

Would you like the chaos gods more if they stood for more noble things and less MUH EVIL like in the old lore?
For example:
Khorne: Honor, glory, bravery and heroism
Nurgle: Endurance, stamina, safety and survival
Tzeentch: Knowledge, evolution, progress and hope
Slaanesh: Love, fertility, pleasure (in a good way) and comfort.

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No.

yea tho regardless, nurgle is best chaos god, followed by khorne

I think it would make more sense for ordinary humans to join them if the gods actually stood for good things.

Why are you trying to change the seven deadly sins aspect of chaos to something people would like?

As it is, its basically for those who wanna spice up the table top or those who cannot control the darkness in their soul.

But they do you filthy corpse worshipper

chaos is life

>Love, fertility, pleasure (in a good way) and comfort
Isnt that allready the case?

But the whole idea is they used to represent both good and evil aspects before the warp got all fucked up, you fucking brazil nut. They're all edgy cause they're psychic reflections of the emotions and events of real space; which they then act upon and make worse; empowering their negative aspects and creating an endless feedback loop. The chaos gods are less evil deific overlords and more strung out junkies chasing a high.

Wrong, the warp consisted only of energy and harmony before the gods came to life. In the old lore the chaos gods was more if a two face entity with good and evil attributes.
Alfabusa explains it good here youtu.be/SG7VvMGw6w0?t=12m

I like to think they still do, albeit in a very twisted form, and they sorta lure mortals in with the promises of this "good" side

I'd like to see more of their good sides, yes. Honestly only a complete psycopath would want to join chaos as is, so having people worshiping chaos gods because of noble reasons only for it to eventually corrupt them would be a cool change.

tehy already do, bad things they stand for just oversaturate the good ones because people are assholes
WORSHIP THE CHAOS GOD YOU WANT TO SEE

Bingo.
The gods do stand for these things - Tzeentch is god of hope, and even if you take that away he is still god of ambition, Nurgle is god of death, but is also god of accepting you will die and then living despite that. Wussifying them and making them a bunch of pansies that are just greek gods would suuuck, but I think they are more compelling if they are good aspects of humanity turned on its head.
Brazil nut?

Bingo.

absolutely, Slaanesh best god

But they do. Tzeentch stands for ambition, Khorne for strength, Nurgle for preservation and Slaanesh for pleasure (in a good way).

You say that like they don't already. Also I wouldn't lump survival under Nurgle, that's more of a Khorne thing, Nurgle is more about self acceptance.

Were they though? Were they really?

That being said, the idea that even the most noble warrior can be corrupted, after seeing years of bloodshed, and someday just giving in to the bloodthirst is a bit more compelling than just "and then the warp happened and everyone went nuts and slaughtered each other".
The Crimson Slaughter seems like a good example for Space Marines that slowly are pushed towards Chaos, and have some background as to why they became what they are.

>accepting you will die and then living despite that
No he's just the accepting and giving up part

Nurglites tend to keep on living despite having a trillion STDs, assorted infections and cancers all at once. They just carry on carrying on, continuously.

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The Law Gods stood for those things though, not the Chaos Gods.

What I would like is if it all went back to the old ways rather than this NuEdgy bullshit of Chaos Mary Suedom.

PURGE! PURGE! PURGE!

You don't get it though, do you? The Chaos Gods, at their core, are the extreme and radical conclusions to all of those concepts and emotions. The Chaos god's are addicts to the very things that created them, and thus self perpetuate and continue the things that created them, until whats left is nothing but a twisted, mindless blob of madness.

Honor, bravery and glory all come about from war. Thus, Khorne must continue the war to garner more honor, more glory. That's why Khornates are obsessed with Honor and Glory, in their own brutal way. So, they must pursue war after war, as a way to gather more Glory and Honor, until every living moment is spent fighting, because that is the optimal way of achieving his goal.

Slaanesh knows something feels good; thus they want more. And than, they adjust it so that they get more. Than, they discover they can farther and farther.

I would like it if the chaos gods represented their good halves more often in 40k involving themselves in new factions that fluff out the "muh Chaos spess mareenes" so that it wasn't all bad, save for Tzeentch, who at this point is off doing it's own thing, basically, worlds, peoples and interesting ways the warp has affected the world in a similar manner to the like of Prospero by Magnus's description in youth pre-emps saying "hi there, fuck your way of life." So we've got more independent cultures who treat Khorne like Odin and don't BLOOD BLOOD BLODD SUPER RED DEMON BLOOD, Druids of Nurgle, and Well, Slaanesh is all bad, barring that time it fucked Tzeentch in a private non-disclosed meeting as Tzeentch wanting to be the little girl at least once because change, so it was inevitable, and then the after-sex and self-loathing hit it so hard, it's Greater Daemons starting lifting weights which were actually magical tomes stacked on barbells when they got sexually feather-fag tier swole for the war in fantasy.

Then Slaanesh shows up with actual legit offspring and Tzeentch throws her into his time-well and it ends up in Eberrron.

Basically, Chaos is currently in panic-attack fuckshit mode and things are bad for anyone associated with it, there might have been a time where things are more casual, but because of how spess mareenes see chaos, it's all fucked.

Unfortunately, beyond Nurgle's pain zombies/servants there are no proper Undead in 40k.

Unless we solve this via inserting Requiem:Chevalier Vampire into 40k, where this makes 100% sense, it fits right in, and Sanguinious and Comrade Chruuze reincarnate as vampires and do awesome backwards untouched warpworld vampire shenanigans.

And here's an image of Requiem Chevalier Vampire, It's like 40k, Fantasy, halloween town, went to the warp then we put the WF Vampires all over it and made Dracula the Emperor of Mankind, but he's a vampire, so it's like the opposite.

That's not nice.

They supposedly kinda do, it's just it's grimdark so you rarely see their good aspects and mostly notice onyl stuff that's used to hurt others.

they do but just like everything else in WH40K they're super one dimensional

Yes. The lore used to be a lot more nuanced in the natures of the Chaos Gods. But now it's kind of childish in how they are presented. I'll give Haley credit, he did get the Nurglites character pretty well.

>Hey guys, would you like these extremely evil beings if they were good instead of evil so that they would be completely unlike what they are right now.

Gee, user, I just don't know.

>implying this makes them likeable in any way

False. Nothing really changed. Khorne was always an honourless monster in 99% of his fluff, old and new.

> Chaos Gods aren't progressive enough

Khorne has never been honorable, and the Warhammer Fantasy version is even more bloodthirsty than 40k Khorne.
/r/ing that metal as fuck creation myth about Khorne. You know, the one with blood and skulls and shit.

>if they stood for more noble things and less MUH EVIL like in the old lore?
>like in the old lore

>The followers of Khorne often feel they can justify their slaughter with notions of honor or bravery or martial pride. But the true servants of Khorne know he desires only wild slaughter and all else is meaningless artifice.
-Codex Chaos 2nd Edition pg. 22

Yeah thats because they lost all hope and fell to a God that frequently abuses them because they were much more scared of death so they gave up to Nurgle to avoid it.

>The Law Gods stood for those things though

No they didn't.
The Law Gods never stood for anything, and were a quarter formed idea because they decided just not to use them anymore.

Could you repeat that less autistically?