Having a yes a few games against them over the weekend I am pleasantly surprised at how the Grymkin perform. They're an interesting army to play against and they present some unique challenges. I think if some high caliber players pick them up we'll definitely see them in the competitive meta.
Have any of you guys played against them yet?
Michael Bennett
A decorated war hero of the Exemplar errants, Warder Elias Gade leads his team of pious knights on crucial missions into enemy territory. Operating far from the Protectorate of Menoth, Gade relies on a lifetime of battlefield experience and his unshakable faith to secure victory. The whistling of his blessed crossbow bolts have presaged the deaths of countless unbelievers, and by his hand many more will fall.
Noah Turner
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Brandon Lopez
Oh, heard someone say it was a upkeep Still, 2 focus for a unboostable Pow 12 damage roll?
Jace Powell
Is this guy a merc or what? Where my merc at?
Show mercs a speck of love pls ;_;
Daniel Baker
How the FUCK did warmahordes go from good rules vs GW shitty rules, to shitty rules vs GW good rules? 9 out of the 10 opponents I play regularly have switched back to 40k since early rules leaks.
Colton Williams
Hahaha. No.
Dominic Miller
>40k >good rules People bitching about WMH theme spam should take a look at 8th edition tournament lists. Stormravens as far as the eye can see
Robert Perez
2 Focus for a POW12 damage roll that circumvents EVERY DEFENSIVE MECHANISM IN THE GAME EXCEPT FOR ARM AND BOXES is pretty damn good.
Angel Hughes
You're getting Gastone2 you ignorant swine.
Ryan Lopez
The link to HORDES: Exigence is broken in the textuploader com / d0thm link. Anyone got another one?
Alexander Sullivan
Legion is getting like 5 new models. Pretty sure this means all the factions are getting more than the one or two previewed models.
Isaiah Hill
anyone got a pdf link to the latest nq and/or Grymkin?
Alexander Lopez
They look stupid as fuck so nobody my way will buy them.
Ethan Morales
I had a great game with her yesterday. She's great in SR 2017.
Connor Morris
Gaston cross is a full warcaster now.
Jackson Bell
All the cards for every faction are on the card database, just go to PPs site.
Jose Cox
She was great before, just difficult to learn vs Khador's other casters who are point and click as fuck.
Easton Foster
I would rather just concede than have to look at them on the table.
Joshua Turner
No, she was pretty awful because there wasn't any infantry.
Alexander Perez
>GW good rules?
You're fucking insane if you think that botch-job of a new edition is any good. I quit 40k for Warmachine because of 8th; it might be going down well with the simpletons AoS dragged into the hobby but it's by no means a good ruleset.
Samuel Bailey
So what faction did you pick?
Wyatt Jones
Christ almighty, the neckbearded arrogance of grown men who play with toy soldiers never ceases to amaze me.
Sebastian Davis
Cryx. I played Dark Eldar in 40k, so the fast-and-fragile glass hammer approach appealed, and they've got the coolest model range IMO. Lots of variety - most factions Warjacks all look pretty similar, but with Cryx you've got everything from the standard humanoid Slayers to the little chicken-jacks, and the big crabs.
Nice, Cryx definitely has a cool look and feel. Not sure if you saw but they're getting a pirate theme force later this year so if you like the satxyis, ogrun, and bloodgorgers it should be a good time.
Blake Lopez
ya, they look pretty lame.
I would have felt better about them if they were a minion "sub faction"
Brody Edwards
Sweet! Free wins!
Hunter Sanders
It's about a 50/50 split for me. I love a lot of the range, but really can't stand the rest. The Neigh-Slayers and Piggybacks in particular are big misses for me. But there two people at my club who are looking into starting them, so they certainly have their audience.
Henry Davis
some are pretty sweet. i like dreadrots and the battle engine but i hate the king of nothing so much
Samuel Brown
>Neigh-Slayers Tell me, what's it like to go through life with no soul or sense of humor? Do you take everything so seriously or just toy solders?
Jacob Butler
Personally I really like the Neigh Slayer. Real good visual look. Like an actual dream nightmare.
Cooper Hernandez
They stretch things too far. Grim, gothic fairy-tale monsters? Sure, brilliant, I'm totally on board with that. Imps riding hobbyhorses? That's the sort of thing I'd expect from one of PP's silly event-only models, not a whole unit.
Lucas Young
I played one game with them and my opponent was permanently butthurt at their abilities. Also everyone hates their models for some reason.
Joshua Brown
(you)
Jason Cooper
They're also getting a Theme for them, so I don't think that counts.
Jack Ramirez
Because they are incoherent as an army.
You have to paint or convert them extensively with sole intention of not making them look like shit.
Jaxon Myers
Both rules are shitty atm. 8th ed sucks though I can't believe people are calling it an improvement.
Colton Hall
>I can't believe people are calling it an improvement Probably because it's equally shitty as the thing that came before, but takes less pages to get there.
Brandon Cook
fewer, my skorne brother
Elijah James
It really is. It plays faster, the new wounding mechanic means nothing is ever completely hopeless and command points were a really good addition to give some semblance of control for your army. 8th isn't a deep game but not every game needs to be deep to be good
Tyler Bell
>fewer You are of course right. >my skorne brother How did you know?
Eli Price
Same, I'm planning to use them for Company of Iron only for that reason.
John Gutierrez
>How did you know? I knew because we are all brothers in Skorne.
Nathaniel Watson
>tfw Will Pastrami won't release the Trollkin CID update already
Austin Powell
It's not even 10 AM over there, give em a break
Mason Edwards
Well I guess it's a safe bet on wmhg.
Luke Nelson
Its from 10AM to 4 PM. Relax.
Parker Peterson
Pls no bully I forgot gastonne
Gastonne hype
Nicholas Nelson
A Pretty neat mechanic:
Make a Guy a shield guard. Then when that guy died you get his soul.
So nearly guaranteed soul tokens every day. Also free infinite re-usable and pickable shield guard every day.
Asher Jackson
Am I the only person who thinks we need more Gargossalbominations?
These would be: >Volcano King for the Trollbloods >Farrow Garg that is a scaled up War Hog. >Grymkin Garg that is a walking mockery of Menoth himself. >Skorne Garg that is a stitched together mass of Tortured Baby Mammoths. >Second Menoth Colossal. >Cephalyx Colossal (probably referred to as an Abomination as as part of their Warjack Theme)
Angel Garcia
No one is forgotten like Gastone.
Alexander Wood
I know this is a terrible list, I'm looking to make it better.
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Protectorate of Menoth - FlameGuard Feora1 75
Theme: Guardians of the Temple 3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
I like gargossals, but allot of people find them too much.
At the moment, I like the new structures popping up.
Brayden Jenkins
>allot
Henry Lee
It depends on what you want out of your game user.
Warhammer is a great casual game but it's impossible to play competitively with out extensive house rules and arguing.
Warmahordes is a great competitive game that does casual ok of you have the right kind of play group.
Both have their own strengths and weaknesses and are pretty great for what they are. There's no reason you can't enjoy both and there's nothing wrong with not caring for one or the other. They're just games
Nathaniel Hall
With that in mind, tell me wmhg- is Zaal2 All The Immortals dull to play?
David Mitchell
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Hunter Carter
Oooh. Nice.
Adam Turner
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Jordan Ross
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Tyler Turner
Didn't know they had a Nemo bust - I would like to paint angry grandpa in larger format.
William King
"Odor-blockin' POWAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"
Ryan Thomas
I don't know if it's dull to play but it's a bitch to play against. >All this ARM >All this boosting and rerolls >All these troops
Christopher Carter
I think you're talking about the Frightmare. The neighslayers are little goblins playing horsie with decapitated horse heads.
Not all senses of humour are equal. If yours is tickled by the grymkin, that's great (though my imaginary respect for you dropped about 2.7 kilospects)
Kevin Perry
> if you have the right group
Which no-one does
Carson Wilson
I've played Zaal2 30 Immortals since Mk2. Calling it 'dull' is deceptive, but not exactly wrong.
If you're the kind of player who has to have an active caster with an exciting spell list, then yes it's dull. Zaal2 is just a buff bot, camping fury for his army to use and collecting souls for it to all work. You do get the rare game where your opponent feeds you 20+ souls and Zaal obliterates the enemy warcaster with his Sunder Spirit gatling gun... but usually he's standing in the back just trying to not die while his army does the heavy lifting.
What IS fun about Zaal2 30 Immortals are the Immortals themselves. Most of them get into combat alive with the feat, and people have a lot of trouble remembering the novels length of special rules and interaction they have, so you'll often catch people off guard with something. Charging through models with on demand Incorporeal is awesome. It's REALLY hard to keep up with the Immortals once they get their Vengeance and boosted Transference attacks going. I'm a firm believer that there is very little in this game that can't be solved with 30+ POW 13s.
It's also really fun to punk warbeasts with the eye lasers from the Advocate CAs and their gun that ranges from POW 17-21 depending on the matchup.
So if you like playing attrition with a dark horse assassination trump card, then it's pretty fun to play. If you have to have a caster who is consistently the star of the show every game, then hard pass on this list.
Bentley Gonzalez
>Which no-one does that's a problem with your community then and not necessarily the game. Warhammer for temple to be the worst possible game ever if your community sucks it's not fun when you're trying to play with a bunch of try hards. But that's the case for literally any game not just Warhammer Warmachine
Benjamin Morris
Anyone have the grymkin pdf?
Luis Cruz
cards.privateerpress.com Motherfucker they're handing this shit out now.
Henry Wilson
Not the cards the new book
Oliver Fisher
gotta get the lore for the spooky pumpkin men
Brayden Evans
Go get it from your LGS. It's worth your precious shekels
Josiah Green
>reading the Grymkin book
I hope you like rhyming couplets, changing the page orientation, and zooming in to read the awful fucked up type format they designed for this book. It's nothing at all like your regular force of book. I feel bad for anyone who wanted Grymkin lore, because most of the "lore" in the book is pseudo cryptic ambiguous bullshit to try and milk that 'spooky fairy tale mystery' shtick.
Seriously, the Wanderer's fluff poem thing is all done in a spiral, so you have to crane your neck and/or turn the book to even try and read it all properly.
Jordan Flores
halp
Angel Murphy
It's enough to make you want to venerate the immortal Emperor
David White
>Reading is hard
Josiah Morris
>Feora1
It's shit. Either play a good list or be a special snowflake, you can't have both.
Brandon Howard
Even Dr. Seuss books didn't require me to turn the book around and around in order to read Jason Soles' high school poetry.
I mean, don't take my word for it, the scan will be out soon enough.
Nolan Watson
I know, I have the book. Turning it around to read isn't that hard for someone who isn't retarded
Noah Lee
Did I say it was hard? I just said it's fucking stupid that it has to be done that way to begin with. Or do you think having the book around in your hand to read something properly is actually cool?
Camden Butler
>Steelsoul protectors got weapon master >TEP Dildo got +1 POW >Angry Fridge got +1 POW on drillfist >Reciprocators got CMA >Meatnode no longer has to hug Warjacks to channel >Foundry can place rebuilt models 3" instead of 1"
I am pleased with all of this.
Joshua Perry
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Kevin Bennett
From Mk2 to 3, I should have clarified, if the decks are anything to go by.
Ryder Morales
>the anti infantry caster was great in the jack spam meta
I know you think your hot shit, but you're actually really bad at this game.
Ian Russell
So can I get a rundown on just how bad Skorne were at Mk. 3 launch? I believe it, I just don't have the specifics.
Brandon Sanders
Try getting one of the card PDFs from back then. It's frankly hilarious. Imagine Mk2 Skorne, but everything got nerfed, especially the stuff nobody played anyways.
Jose Hill
HELLO. I am a WHALE newcomer.
SkorneFlakes
Hey, hey! I've been playing WarmaHordes for
Lucas Long
I mean, I played a little skorne in Mk 2. >but everything got nerfed >especially the stuff nobody played anyways.
How in God's name did the Rhinos get worse?
Ethan Parker
they have 3 busts now, Skarre, Nemo, and Borka.
Liam Morales
Neat. Wouldn't mind painting Skarre as well, but a rack that large is intimidating.
Mason Butler
I would love the Skarre bust, but I don't think they sell them outside of conventions and their US-based store, and shipping over to 'ole Blighty isn't cheap.
James Harris
I want a lylyth bust but we'll probably get thagrosh :(
Luke Baker
inb4 Butcher's bust will just be his head
Nolan Green
Yeah I doubt Lylyth would get a bust just because the face is usually the focal point.
Isaiah Bennett
that's kinda the point. her facemask is intricate and beautiful. and she'd have her lower face along with her light armor. i think it'd be pretty good.
Charles Gomez
New CID stuff >Trollkin Champions: With a slight increase in damage and the addition on the Sanguine Bond rule we hope that Champions gain a little more survivability and utility. Please test this extensively, it is quite a large change. >Champions gain Sanguine Bond and STR 8 but go back up to cost 10/16.
