A Red Dragon has taken a romantic interest in your character. What would such a relationship be like?

>Red Dragons are always Chaotic Evil aren't they?

That actually depends on the setting. It's the baseline that chromatics are evil and metallics are good, but in some dragons are just as varied in alignment as anyone else. Once can find a Neutral silver, a Lawful Good black, or a Chaotic Evil gold.

>A Red Dragon has taken a romantic interest in your character. What would such a relationship be like?

It would throw my current character for a massive loop. She's "just" another warrior, a barely literate peasant that was conscripted out of the noose by un (unknow then) corrupt noble house to fight (die) against northern raiders. Charisma 13, but there's an elven Paladin in the party with a 20, and looks much more classically sexy than farmer-tanned brick shithouse. It would actually make her a little insecure, wondering why a being as powerful and majestic as a great dragon would see a "forgettable frump" like her as someone attractive.

How much of a talker is he?

Since she's basically a red dragon without the alignment penalties, she'd be down, but only if prospective husbando is worthy. An impressive nerd or somehow more rip-and-tear than her is necessary. Otherwise he's waiting at her pleasure, and presumably displeased.
Also, I hope they aren't related.

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>Didn't mention the Dragon's Sex
As someone violently turned on by the sound of Klauth's voice from Neverwinter Nights, this arouses and worries me. I hope this fuck knows how to use Polymorph right, because if it picks Dragonborn and not Draconian or the proper Half-dragon/dragon breeded admixtures for it's polymorphed form, I shall have to slay a wyrm.

Additionally, Red's are disrespectful, impulsive violent fucks that only learn their place after a good beating, so this is going to be an intense combative and competitive relationship, and I will need many a means to fire resistance.

This relationship, to note, will be the gayest hardcore scalie Gfur porn thing ever if I'm a Demon, namely a Balor, and this guy is dying, so I become his heart via the Disciple of Ashradorn prestige class.

That's a bara Muscular Balor with flaming whip of punishment, erect nipples forged in the vile black fires of the abyss wearing BDSM gear with a Red Dragon that respects my dominanant attitude, and taste conquest and wealth. or some shit.

Super Fucking gay, but the kind of Gay I can work with, because there's no icky humans involved.

My last character got polymorphed into a cat and the party caster has a crush on him as well.

Add in that fucking disco wizard that cat fished him and things are going to get really fucking weird really fucking quick.

A powerful, wealthy husband would be pretty ideal, so she's automatically interested, and open to the possibility of reciprocating romantically. What's his dating approach or courtship strategy?

Cover you in jewelery and keep you in a cage in his lair?

Fucked as soon as you piss them off, or they lose interest

Well the Ice Dragons are fuckable. I hope the Red Dragons are too.

Is it a comfortable cage? And is that really romantic? OP said romantic...

I mean, he loves and covets you, right? You can probably ask for better accommodations, maybe upgrade to just a leash.

define "evil" as a selection of measurable traits, please

Sounds good! How long do you think he'll wait before trying for children?

There are two characters in Pathfinder - from the same Adventure Path, no less - that I think highlight the way Evil views love and relationships. The first one I wish to discuss is Nazhena Vasilliovna (Neutral Evil,) the antagonist of Book 2 and the owner of the Pale Tower in Book 1. She is a striking, lovely young Jadwiga from an icy land of Winter Witches whose treacherous scheming had taught her at an early age to never trust anybody, especially those that try to get close to you. One day, she acquires an apprentice from Taldor, a young man who quickly takes a liking to her, and she to him. The pair are casual lovers for quite a while, but then Nazhena starts feeling things about him that she can't quite put into words, for she had never learned the words that describe love.

So when the party kills her apprentice-lover in Book 1, the woman flies into a blind rage, promising death and ruin upon the party as she will follow them to the ends of the multiverse to avenge the death of her lover. Ironically, it's worth noting she still wouldn't describe her apprentice as a lover. all Nazhena knows is her bedwarmer is gone, and it hurts. It hurts. It hurts so much and she can't describe why, and the only thing she knows are the feverish thoughts of brutalizing the party hurt less than thinking of her dead lover.

>Chaotic evil dragon that can't shapechange takes interest in a humanoid.

It would be extremely painfull because he's a big guy.

The second character I would say is worth discussing is Greta, a Neutral Evil guardswoman for the capital of the previously mentioned icy land. More specifically, she is a guardswoman of the Howlings, a district dedicated to Winter Wolves (malicious arctic wolves) and the only place in the country where, upon entering the gates, can assume a Human form. Through circumstances listed in the book that are meant to be portrayed as both amusing and intimate, Greta can pull a party member aside and ask if he'd like to come to her place later that evening and share some mulled wine, for as it turns out Greta has a need to breed and longs for a mate she can cherish for the years to come. While the party member will eventually need to reveal to Greta he is not a Winter Wolf, Greta herself does not particularly mind. In fact, if one plays their cards right, Greta will eagerly join up with the party if promised a chance to remain Human permanently, as to enjoy the delights a bipedal existence offers and remain by the side of her newfound mate.

What these two characters tell us about Neutral Evil, and by extension Evil characters themselves, is that Love is not exclusive to Neutral/Good characters, it's simply the extent of that love which changes. A Neutral Evil character in love is willing to do anything for their lover, up to and including slaughter an orphanage or rip out the throat of a potential rival. That is what an Evil character do.

He might not think of it, honestly- or worry about damaging you. But despite being pretty big on mental stats, it probably wouldn't be too hard to convince/manipulate him otherwise. Just play up to possessive male pride about 'claiming' you, possessive dragon pride about advertising his ownership, Amma dragon avarice at the possibility of his prized (perhaps most prized) possession producing more. All of those are pretty big tools for applying leverage, I imagine.

>Chaotic Evil people have no respect for others or how things 'should' be done, as such a Chaotic Evil being would enter a relationship looking to get as much personal pleasure out of it as possible, with no concern for whether that relationship follows social norms or how it affects anyone else, including the person the relationship is with.
This is probably the worst aspect of stuff to come out of alignments. I have no idea why people can't view them as general characteristics and traits, and not EVERY SINGLE ACTION MUST ALWAYS BE IN ACCORDANCE TO THE ALIGNMENT AT ALL TIMES.

So yes, Chaotic evil beings? Usually are callous , cruel, and self interested. They still might have friends or people they care about. Lawful good people might get a moment of irritation, or someone that they just hate that much that they're willing to cross the line to spite them. Same as for every alignment ever.

>Ironically, it's worth noting she still wouldn't describe her apprentice as a lover. all Nazhena knows is her bedwarmer is gone, and it hurts. It hurts. It hurts so much and she can't describe why, and the only thing she knows are the feverish thoughts of brutalizing the party hurt less than thinking of her dead lover.
This is my fetish. This is what I love in evil characters.

The only reason a dragon would fall in love with a human is because it's a sick fuck that can't form lasting relationships with other members of its species. If you look at an adult dragon's mental stats, let's say in 3.5, most types have >15 Int, Wis and Cha. An average human commoner might have 10, a hero might be on dragon's level in one of these attributes but woefully slow and stupid otherwise.

A dragon initiating anything with a human is beastiality.

Int is supposed to be ~10 iq points/point. Which is almost pointless given how worthless a measurement IQ is. But I find your reasoning fundamentally umcompelling.

Cute. But we'll need a nursery! And little half-dragon baby clothes that don't clash with the poor dear's scales!

GET OUT VECNA
FUCK WHAT YOU WROTE IN YOUR SHITTY BOOK
CRY TO YOUR EXISTENT MOTHER

If you think someone with 16 Int, 16 Wis and 16 Cha is in any way a peer to someone with 16 in one of these attributes and maybe 8-10 in other two... Nah.

It's like taking an autistic computer programmer who has no philosophical interests or background and no presence or social skills and putting them next to a rockstar scientist pope.

One of them will be very bored.

Counterpoint: Bill Gates is married and has children.

Why would they need anymore clothes than you?

Make sorcerers.

>Farmer-tanned brick shithouse
You have my attention

Half-Dragon means half-human. They need to understand clothes!

Nice godmodding faggot, going to force my elf to be racist to everything next?

Counterpoint: Bill Gates is really rich and he's not nearly that autistic.

> dragons
> not really rich
I remain unconvinced.

lots of dicking

The dragon wouldn't be the gold digger.

Pillow talk is the ultimate persuasive platform. You've got this.

He's like a big puppy. Sometimes he brings me gold coins or a cow.

>Red dragon
Now that's unusual. Usually it's silvers for the metallics or blues for the chromatics.

I'll have to think.

D&D defines good and evil more in terms of what you're willing to do to the people you *don't* care about.

To use an explicitly D&D example, take Elan's dad burning a bunch of slaves at the stake to spell out a happy birthday message for his son. He was actively doing something positive for someone who mattered to him, while flagrantly and pointlessly hurting people who didn't matter to him.

Good characters go out of their way to help people they don't care about. Neutral characters aren't willing to go out of their way to help or hurt people they don't care about. Evil characters are perfectly capable of having characters they care about, as long as they have a sufficient lack of standards and ethics when it comes to other people.

It's the old "if you want to know about a person's character, pay attention to how they treat the waiter" idea.

We adopt a white dragon daughteru and live happily ever after.

>little half-dragon baby clothes
(Squee's Happily)

>creatures are generally chaotic evil
>based on that, user explains in the most general idea of what a red dragon is for D&D how it might handle a lover
>WAH WAH ALIGNMENT SUCKS STOP CONFINING ME REEEEEEEEE
Quit your whining.

My last PC was a noble from nobilis who is effectively Mephistopheles on steroids. I'd imagine it would be remarkably stable. Him being a kind of stable lawful evil. Who is all about equal trades that in the end is an advantage to himself. While the dragon would likely be the more emotional one that will try to keep things moving forward.

Lots and lots of rape. Probably copious amounts of torture, and finally the pain ending with mastication and ingestion.

>Human Monk; Drunken Fist, married to Tiefling Wild Sorceress.

>"Czaria did you polymorph in your sleep again? ....Czaria? ....ZiZi? OH SHI-"

As long as she enjoys watching russians burn in the moon (and fire) light, I will make the best of the upcoming snu-snu.

>Reading comprehension failure.
user, I don't think Veeky Forums is for you. You might do better in say, the third grade.

And my axe!

Wait a sec...

I'd be worried about their parenting style though.

>Paladin with a (non-sexual) fetish for redeeming evil people through his absolute faith in people and their ability to always improve
>has already attracted the affections of a tiefling warlock, a drow priestess, a lich queen, and a mindflayer
>Red dragoness joins the harem!

okay, it never happened, but this does sound like it'd be a hilarious harem story concept.

This woman is a keeper. Most people don't bother to think about how difficult it is to care for children who can burn down a house in their sleep.

>red scaled western drake in shadowrun
>don't run for or against dragons
>dating is fine
I'm playing a black mage who lies at basically every opportunity. Probably try to play the con game with a dragon for all of a day before realizing I'm hopelessly outclassed.

Get more honest and enjoy perks of being courted by a dragon.

Likely, this female red dragon is attracted to his stubbornness, pragmatism, and determination. Particularly since he's setting his sights on revolution and succeeding. He also has a real looks-can-be-decieving way about him, and I'd like to think that would be pleasing to a dragon who's been around for many decades. He's on the older side, but that's probably irrelevant given her probably-substantial age.

So long as she wasn't flagrantly, cruelly evil, they'd probably have a very symbiotic power couple thing going on.

For you(r character)?

Utterly baffled. Dude's got self-esteem issues, doesn't really stand out over the party members and in fact is kind of weak compared to them. As far as he's concerned, there is literally no reason for anyone to be interested in him in any way whatsoever, so dragon would probably be met with the same level of paranoia he meets everyone else with.

She'd be weirded out and terrified.

Well, I'm not all that into bestiality, so unless she's a cute dragon-girl, then I'm not gonna date her.

>He now has TWO dragons romantically interested in him.
Okay. He could pass of the first as being just a coincidence. And he was fine with that.
But now a SECOND dragon? Seriously, is he cursed or something? Or, like, does he give off some pheromone that just draws the dragons to him?
Either way, I think the relationship with the Red will be short-lived, as the other dragon is both incredibly possessive and waaaay more powerful than even an Ancient dragon.
Unless the Red submits. Then he's going to have to deal with a draconic double team. Odds are his pelvis wouldn't stay intact long after that.
Thank Christ for Nemesis Abilities and Eternal Blood.

>The teeth ought to make things interesting.
>t. Barbarian

how olds the dragon?

gonna assume its a young dragon so size catagory large, good thing I know enlarge/reduce

That is without a doubt the worst bard in history. That or a dumbass that multiclassed into assassin.

did it for the talez m8

Very short before my character's phoenix bully victim/thrall is ordered to kill the dragon through some convoluted means. Then the dragon is dissected for the advancement of science and magic.

>until it gets bored of you
You will probably die long before that happens. Dragons live an exceptionally long time, even compared to most of the longer-lived humanoids. One could assume from that that their interests would also hold on a similar scale. Even a fleeting "crush" from a dragon would probably outlive a human.

Polymorphed red Dragon seduced and killed my room before game started. He was later raised by another PC and bound to work as an inquisitor for their merciful and demanding god.

Is english your first language?

Well my current character is happily married to a 17th-level Cleric and is himself a 17th-level Wizard, so...short and brutal for the Dragon.

Alternatively, because I'm the kind of bastard who would, the "relationship" turns horrifying when I cram its soul into a gem and present it to my wife as a present.

My other major character is a Vitalist who is just interested in going the hell home, and he'd be weirded right the fuck out. He's also not high-level enough to be able to just bend the dragon out of existence or anything silly like that, so it'd be...uh, unpleasant, for him.