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>Watch your back >Shoot straight >Conserve ammo >And never, ever go hiking with a dragon Rural edition. What weird and wonderful places have your runners been to out of the Sprawl lately?
Austin Smith
Anchoring from last thread.
Are there any sourcebooks about Knight Errant procedures and "company culture"? Im writing up a few stories about the knight-errant investigation into my runners. T. the jewlery store massacre user.
Alexander Fisher
There might be something in one of the books about the corporations, otherwise what I'd do is use some CP2020 sourcebooks to get a basis, then Shadowrun-ify and tech-update them. Protect and Serve mixed with the Arasaka section of Corpbook 1 (I think), probably.
Austin Johnson
So, /srg/, just finished a sidequest session, where all that needed to be done was a small smuggling run to increase my Contact's Connection.
Wound up getting shot at by sorority themed chicks, ran a semi off the road, all while I had to beat the clock and make it to my date with my gf on time.
Then the elf decided to fuck with my date, seduced my my girlfriend and they both wound up getting pregnant by my orc
Christopher Brooks
>they both wound up getting pregnant I do not see the problem, now you have two gf
Christopher Morgan
No, now he has two baby mommas, that's a whole bigger problem.
Liam Roberts
Any of you trogs have any neat ideas for some small gangs?
Pic kind of related, I've been trying to come up with a name for this gang of magical girl wannabees.
Brandon Torres
He can just go to a local health mage and have her cast fetus deletus. Problem solved.
Parker Rogers
Now I'm thinking of high Cha Black mage who learns slay fetus to avoid unwanted pregnancies.
Lincoln Sanchez
Congratulations, user. You increased your Contact's Loyalty, too! That's at least a 3 or 4 Loyalty right there.
You're also going to be getting the Dependent negative quality in about 9 months.
Jacob Howard
Help me anons, I'm doing something foolish.
I've got a technomancer with Skillwires 4/Skilljack 4. What are some good skills to buy in chip form?
Ryder Lopez
From what I understand the world of Shadowrun outside the sprawl is like a wonderful and wild mix of Mad Max, Borderlands, and Stalker.
Jaxon Adams
So, question, anons:
An androgynous elf, with 8 Charisma and 6 Con (Seduction) along with a number of points in Disguise and Impersonate, takes the following Cyber and Bioware: Modular Connector (Groin), at least two different Modular Cyber Genitals (one for each gender), Breast Implants 2.0, LED Hair, Skin Toner, False Face, Elastic Joints, Sensitive Skin (multiples to cover chest, upper back, and butt), Tactile Sensitivity, and Tailored Pheremones augmentations, in an attempt at making them as sexy as possible to as many people as possible.
Would you allow this in your game, or is it too Magical Realm?
Wyatt Ross
Combat skills, and skills that you can use outside the Matrix in general.
Zachary Rivera
If they were a former bunraku doll, maybe. I'd have to know more about their combat skills to say yay or nay at my table.
Luis Williams
>Combat skills Since combat will obviously be secondary for the character, I didn't know if that was a good idea because it precludes using edge to make shots count when you really need them to do so.
>in an attempt at making them as sexy as possible to as many people as possible. Disallowed for this line, banned for being creepy permavirgin. If the character was supposed to be a cyberware-based disguise expert, that's one thing, but it's just fetish bait at this point.
Adam Gutierrez
Agility 6, Automatics 4, Smartlink in their glasses with an automatic pistol.
>Disallowed for this line, banned for being creepy permavirgin. "I want to be as sexy as possible to as many people as possible" isn't a viable character motivation? I mean, look at what people do to themselves with plastic surgery IRL in the pursuit of better looks.
Landon Sullivan
So, question: if a character has Custom Fit armored clothes and the Body Sculpt Adept Power, do their clothes resize to fit them as a result of the magic? Reading the RAW, it looks like Custom Fit clothes only stop fitting you if your physical Attributes change, and the Body Sculpt power explicitly doesn't change any of your stats, just your appearance.
Jose Rodriguez
Not that guy, but he never said it wasn't a viable character motivation.
He just said it creeped him out and you come across as a permavirgin who can't into social cues and will try to ERP where and when it's unwelcome.
You aren't gonna fit in at every table, you may as well accept that right away.
Daniel Adams
>isn't a viable character motivation Not really. You've already got 9001 types of cosmetic 'ware, go be a whore somewhere else. It's pretty fucking shallow for a reason why you're committing deniable ops instead of standing on a street corner.
A desire to be attractive can be an interesting facet of a larger character, but as the main driver it's basically only there for the character to try and fuck everyone for validation, which is boring af.
Hudson Scott
Realistic answer: no, as a bit of bulking out/shrinking would ruin a very close tailored fit.
But this is Shadowrun, so I'd just wing it and allow it unless playing an über-Black Trenchcoat game where the players expect and want to play around such 'details'.
Aaron Wright
Related question: would it allow you to morph the appearance of any cyberware your character has installed?
Blake Campbell
Not him, but I'd severly limit it or even prohibit it Cyberware is part of your aura, but not a natural part, which makes it harder to modify it. I'd personally prohibit it changing the ware
John Williams
No, not at all.
By RAW it's allowable that Custom Fit still fits because it doesn't explicitly prevent it, by what the power fictionally does and what a custom-fitted piece of clothing is, no. The clothes would never resize, that's beyond the purview of Body Sculpt, and if you want to argue that the same Executive Suite fits a human woman and a wakyambi man you're a very silly person.
Mason Lewis
>The clothes would never resize, that's beyond the purview of Body Sculpt They're inside the Adept's Aura, right? That's why you can Assense someone through their clothes.
Nathaniel Green
It's the body that resizes, not everything in range of the aura. Which is why ware doesn't resize, or why when you attack someone with a powerbolt their clothing isn't affected.
Adam Ward
>While the total body mass does not change dramatically, the body (skeletal bone and muscles) can be elongated, shrunken, or otherwise altered to appear like another metatype or a metavariant...
Just because something is next to you, doesn't mean it's magically a part of you.
Samuel Morgan
I'd rule that because shifters can shifter with deltaware, you could feasible change deltaware to some degree, it would depend what exactly you wanted to change.
Ryan Robinson
Are there any specifics on the testing procedures for kids/adults to see if they are Awakened?
The best I can find are oblique references to a 'Dumas test', and that testing is generally done to school-age children to catch them early. No specifics on what the test actually is or how it's administered.
Caleb Bell
Step 1: bring mage along Step 2: have mage assense kids Step 3:??? Step 4: Hire/acquire any awakened kid.
The only ones that can got through such a net are technomancers, since detecting Resonance require one hell of a godly roll. Detecting 'mere' Awakening, anyone capable of astral sight can do in its sleep.
Cameron Anderson
But the Dumas test goes back to '27 when such things were very primitive, and even nowadays there aren't enough spare astrally perceptive individuals to cycle through every classroom in every village, town, and sprawl in the world, especially when there's lots of other demands on their time and talents. It's implied that testing is all-but-universal if you have a SIN, but that's hundreds of millions of children being searched by tens of thousands of mages.
Landon Roberts
Nah, the Contact was not the one that got GREENED. It was our mage, who is a Jap pop star.
Ryan Moore
It's not like sending a mage over for one day each year to just take a look at the kids in a given school is some kind of extreme logistic effort; like organizing a class photo shoot.
Sure, you'll miss a couple sick/skipping/the mage bungling his assensing; but you'd bag most of them easily.
Jaxson Hill
bump. And say what you want about Complete Trog, the art is pretty good (even if the people doing art for the stories appear to have only read them as thirdhand tweets).
Adrian Bennett
Yeah in general 5E has done well on artists (maybe they actually got paid), but I can't help seeing thick whiskers (or like a moustache of sorts) on her face in that picture unless I look closely.
Samuel Walker
Nico Nico needless
Isaiah Nguyen
And for people who are supposedly writing a book all about orcs and trolls, they have no clue what the fuck they are supposed to look like. This is supposed to be orc actress Kat Berg.
Charles Jackson
In my current campaign the party went to an area of Alaska that had been terraformed by inter-dimensional invaders. The air was mostly breathable since the terraforming had been halted by UCAS and CSA militaries but some of the critters from the invaders dimension still wander about. Really they're monsters from DND I've converted. Works better than I thought
Owen Diaz
>reading CT >suddenly 4 pages on Spanish history to catch us up with them in recent years
Andrew Campbell
Anyone have any interesting house rules or bending of the rules? Our GM likes to make faustian deals with us.
As an example, a few sessions ago I decided my phys adept sam really Really needed a weapon focus (damn spirit nearly ruined the previous run and TPKd us. Couldnt rely on just the mage.) Asked my low loyalty/high connection contact for a good place to get my katana enchanted. Dice were rolled (poorly on my part) and my GM asked if i wanted a "double-edged deal." Contact said he'd do me one better and told me of a dojo with some secret forbidden chi technique to make any blade a force 4 foci. With the help of our decker I was able to sneak on in and grab the scroll suspiciously easy. Turns out contact tipped the dojo off as to who stole their shit immediately after and then hopped town. Turns out its Triad run. Turns out, the technique also makes the blades fragile and gives it a 50% chance to break after each swing.
TLDR: >Ask contact for katana foci, roll poorly. >get info on secret weeaboo technique instead. >steal secret scroll, contsct snitches me out to dojo. >have the Triad constantly trying to ambush me at home >any blade can be a focus but 50% chance of breaking.
Henry Green
Sounds like a good reason to buy 10 survival knives.
Hudson Clark
>incisions/lines on the arms and head >cybernetic looking eyes >adept
Christian Lewis
It might be a ruse. Like dressing the tank up in wizard robes.
Jackson Carter
That was one of the few good parts of the book.
Aiden Rivera
>not getting cosmetic scarification
It's like you don't even punk
Jace Powell
user, he has lights in his arms which counts as an essence costing ware are you willing to reduce your essence for being easier to hit?
Parker Clark
Counterpoint
Nolan Scott
Just some really tiny lights with a sticky coating on the backside. No harder to apply than a pair of googly eyes.
Dylan White
So do the Street Samurai follow the bushido code or is it just their name ?
Ayden Thompson
yes, go read Run Faster
Parker Richardson
That is a taboo topic round here. Please desist.
Dominic Garcia
>tfw you had a really fun run planned out, and your players were really into it at the beginning of the night >you get pretty drunk halfway through and rush them through cliffnotes of the climactic parts
:(
Luke Carter
They could if they wanted to. Plenty of Street Samurai live martial lives and aspire to martial ideals, but it's not inherently true. The name is mostly a title to pick out the real deal bad asses from the average street thug.
Nathaniel Fisher
Will do as soon as they deliver the book to me. You're not serious are you ? Do people argue whether or not they should follow it or what ? Ok, that one makes sene.
Michael Bailey
>Do people argue whether or not they should follow it or what ? yes chummer they do that is the problem because once started the thread is then filled with nothing BUT discussion about it.
Hunter Price
oh, and: >Will do as soon as they deliver the book to me. DO NOT BUY CGL BOOKS DO NOT GIVE THEM MONEY ALL BOOKS ARE IN THE OP PASTEBIN
Benjamin Torres
It it perhaps one of the most famous arguments on this general and it completely derails the thread every single goddamn time.
Noah Baker
Not specifically bushido, but a Code of Honor is what separates you from the amoral mercenaries who, for a very long period of time lorewise, have been known to have a bitter rivalry. Many Mercs won't work with Street Sams because they get in the way of money making, and Street Sams won't work with Mercs because they are unscrupulous.
Some people like to have the title without the effort.
Ryder Myers
A person doesn't even have to be a Sam to have a proper code-of-honor. Wasn't there a whole dumb jackpoint section about how this honorable assassin guy wrecked Clockwork's fancy new drone and let the target go cause Clock wanted to geek some women who were in the way?
Benjamin Cruz
Oh yeah, not everybody with a Code is a Street Sam, but every Street Sam has a Code.
Asher Parker
I'm not going to read 100-300 page pdfs of text, I'm not fucking mad. I use them for reference but I prefer physical copies at the table, always did. Everyone's asleep at this time so no one is going to bother anyway. The thread is barely moving at the moment. Doesn't code of honor get into the way of well, shadowrunning ? Having to kill people like an old security guard that's just doing his nine to five and shit.
James Moore
Which is why Stick-n-Shock and intimidation exists.
Jayden Hall
Sure it can get in the way of running, its why its a negative quality. Still, that shouldn't stop someone from taking it and having a code. You don't have to (and probably shouldn't) kill the old security guard; there are other options. Chloroform, non-lethal CQC, stick'n'shock, straight up convincing him its not worth the fight.
John Hill
Is this a good twist? >building spider is highly effective >goes rogue >rampages through facility, killing all staff with slammed doors and vented air and autoturrets and robot arms >runners are hired to deal with spider >when they finally get to the control coccoon, it is a bloody mess >something else has been pretending to be him this whole time
Where do the runners go from there? And what should the thing be that's been doing the spider work? I'm leaning towards AI, but am up for good ideas.
Asher Myers
Swarm of technocritters Now they have to take back control by using cybercombat and meat space combat on the bugs
Austin Stewart
>techno-roach hivemind Burn it to the ground.
Hudson Young
>Not wanting to become part of the hivemind
It's like you want to be alone forever
Christopher Collins
Said the bug spirit.
Caleb Moore
>technoroaches take over facility and kill everyone >begin arranging the corpses into strange arcane patterns >the mundane tech roaches are attempting a magical blood ritual to summon bug spirits
Is this too many twists?
Josiah Gomez
>Final twist, it was all arranged by the janitor who got fired because the manager saw a bug in his office
Jacob Bennett
>they have no clue what the fuck they are supposed to look like Admittedly, that much you can brush off under various augmentations.
Alexander Thomas
It's not how mana works, for one thing.
A technocritter (or paracritter) isn't necessarily any smarter than a regular critter, just like a capuchin isn't smarter than a chimpanzee just because it has a tail it can use to grab things. It just has evolved to fit a certain ecological niche. The roaches don't have anywhere near the kind of knowledge to perform a magic ritual, or magic of any sort - they're still likely to scatter when the kitchen light is turned on.
Brody Hall
All Street Samurai follow A code, but not necessarily THE code.
Brandon Cook
Better, techno bug spirits straight from the resonance.
Yeah, but magic nigga.
Nathaniel Rodriguez
But what if you take 5,000 capuchins and wirelessly network their brains into a super-entity? How many monkeys do you need to make something smarter than a monkey?
James White
Sticking horns on an orc is not an 'must be augmentation' thing. Every troll seems to have their dermal deposits scraped off (except for a few strategically placed on the arms), so which ones have horns are pretty much the only way CGL leaves us to figure out which is which.
Adrian Johnson
They don't get smarter, though. Just like you can't pile a bunch of ants together and watch them start performing Bach.
E-Hive is them networking and what it does is gives them a stronger Resonance.
>Yeah, but magic nigga. The laziest answer, especially in a setting where magic is rigorously and scientifically studied, and we have generally clear ideas about what is possible and what is bullshit.
Charles Perry
Hive organisms do get a bit "smarter" when there are lots of them, though. As in, more able to solve complex problems.
I figure actually wiring them together instead of using reacharound pherimone systems would have an even greater effect.
Isaac Long
problem is: >how would they understand magic? >Why would they want to summon bug spirits?
Logan Russell
Oh, I thought you were arguing against them being smart, period. As for magic motives, I thought the unspoken understanding is that they were linked to bug spirits in some way due to being bugs.
Parker Martinez
Chummer, bugs don't like other bugs when they are the same type of matter why would they like bugs that aren't even that? Why introduce a potential rival? What would they gain from doing that?
And I'm not the other user, but I do agree that even if they were connected their brains do not work in the same way we do and are focused on one task. Even if you have dozens of vectors of type (x,y,0), you'll never be able to create a vector of type (0,0,z)
Luis Brown
I gotta disagree on the brain thing, everything we've found out about neural networks is that they are scary after they stop being retarded. Which is a function of how big the network is and what it is being trained to do, more than any initial program.
Magic I can take or leave, it was sort of an idea I tossed out there. Might go along the lines of the other guy who suggested summoning resonance bugs, or possibly making cockroach filled drones.
Daniel Fisher
You're talking to two different people. I'm against saying they are smart, at least insofar as their actual intelligence is increased. They become more capable of solving problems, but from what I know this is not them becoming better thinkers (for example, beehives with many members are able to find better nesting grounds, but that's because they look at more areas and 'debate' them, not because the proximity of bees next to each other gives them the brains of a real estate agent).
Also, bug spirits have literally nothing to do with bugs. You can argue that they are related to the Earthdawn concept of Horrors needing to be defined before they can come into our world. Insect Spirits aren't Horrors, but they're from metaplanes on the road there. What in metahuman minds better encapsulates a soulless hivemind, bent only on consumption and procreation, then a swarm of insects?
Austin Wright
>they get smarter, but not because they're better thinkers It doesn't matter whether or not the chinese room is or is not actually intelligent.
Jaxson Reyes
It does with magic, especially conducting a ritual to contact the farthest metaplanes and striking a bargain with the spirits therein.
Samuel Walker
Man, it matters way less that you know what you are doing when it comes to magic. People are all the time accidentally summoning horriffic shit. Though, it is a fair point that resonant bugs probably won't have magic.
Juan Clark
It does matter whether the improvement is in scope or in power. Is the swarm capable of things the individual entities can't, or is it just more powerful in the areas the entities are already capable of? AFAIK they are the second type, meaning that they won't just willy-nilly summon spirits, since that isn't something they have to deal with. Your sound analyser may be the best in the world, but it still will be confused when offered some economics data
Kevin Thomas
>People are all the time accidentally summoning horriffic shit. What? Where do you read that?
Jeremiah Torres
As a neural network, it'll improve in scope as it is exposed to new scope. That's how they work.
Samuel Myers
That's the entire premise of how shit like bug spirits and horrors get here in the first place. Some idiot summons a thing that they aren't prepared for and don't know how to handle. Or just accidentally appears them when they weaken the veil with too much blood magic.
Nicholas Roberts
But that's not how technocritters work. Digits=/= neural networks.
Nathaniel Garcia
So, what would you call a bunch of neurons networked together then, if you are arguing they aren't a neural network?
Ryan Garcia
a hive mind a group of processors capable of transmitting data between them to increase their calculation power. Think multi-core processors
Jordan Martinez
But if you get a bunch of processors together, and put them in a neuron-like setup, they increase in scope. That's the basis of modern neural network computer design.
Samuel Perez
I would call it 'read the fucking book, then you'll learn what e-hives and technocritters are and how they don't for any kind of symbiotic or parallel thought process, literally all they do is increase the hive's Resonance while they all individually do bug things like walk about and eat'.
I get it, you read about neural networks in a Slate article and now you're all hot and bothered, but that's not what's happening here.
Kayden Carter
Man, I hate it when shadowrun can't keep up with actual progress in the fields it is talking about.
Cameron Smith
>and put them in a neuron-like setup which isn't given here neuron-like setup =/= just connected it means that each component cares for one part and the connections between them are weighted. a hive mind is just that each part can access the information of all the other parts, which is already a massive boost. But it doesn't make it a neural network
Oliver Harris
What does make it a neural network setup is that it is literally running on neurons.
Cameron Morales
The flour makes it through the sieve, but not all of it makes it into the bowl. The more flour you use, the greater the chance people will notice you're spilling flour everywhere.
Leo Rodriguez
There's a ritual spell that can be performed by anyone and allows you to summon spirits you can't otherwise summon, with the caveat that you might summon something unintended.