Let us discuss Veeky Forums's original characters and why they all died

Let us discuss Veeky Forums's original characters and why they all died.

The friendly WIP desperado, SeƱor Paints, died because I didn't force him hard enough

Don't be so dramatic. Any user can easily just write or doodle a character again.

Love Can Bloom is still part of the collective conciousness of all 40k players. Lofn not so much.

Let's not.

tg's schizophrenia kills OC

Even if just because it still triggers some gits.

this.
we are a lot less mature and capable of creativity than we used to be.

most Post-Millenials are perma-children, and this board is being shit up by them. The original Content Wizards have left, and have yet to return from their exile.
hell, only 2 generals are still 'pure', and retain the 'original primarch'

I stopped caring about the board after all the parts of it that I liked got banned.

/rs

>The original Content Wizards have left,

They never left. We refuse to invoke them.

What do you guys think of my OC. His name is Captain Cool, he's the coolest Guard captain ever, and he has tons of friends and doesn't do drugs because drugs aren't cool.

But now the board is more on topic, amirite?

I'll rape you in the gaping wound that used to be your neck you fucking piece of shit

I appreciate the feedback

There have also been generalized changes to Veeky Forums. the /pol/ infiltration drove away a lot of people who just want to avoid being associated with such stuff. I can't blame them. Ironic shitposting isn't as fun as it used to be.

A lot of content-creation got funneled into Quests, but then the quests became cancer, and moved to the quest board.

sounds rad

It's not schizophrenic to want bigger tits and a dick on all our OCs.

Depends on your community I guess, but some are making OCs just fine. Like uh, Space Shipgirls

Because most of them were trash, Cultist especially. Speech impediments aren't cute, they're annoying, and that's literally Cultist's character.

>because I didn't like it

HWAAAAAT? HYOUUU DOHN'T FHIND IT CHYUUTE HWHEN I THALK LHIKE THISS?

Neck yerself, m80.

>because I don't like (you)

We grew up

You tell me with a straight face that you wouldn't still enjoy the same kind of content now if someone actually decided to make more.

It's a lot more of the people described in doing pic related.

>most Post-Millenials are perma-children
Aren't post-millennials still literally children at this point in time?

>All the OC was either created by, or promoted by, artists
>Most artists at least dabble in porn
>Mods crackdown on porn years ago
>Artists leave to where they can post porn
Ya know, except for Chink you died in service to his country.

LOYAL CITIZENS DON'T USE DRUGS!

Any guardsman under his care that retreats can say goodbye to his social life for the remaining five seconds of his actual life.

Commissar Cool approves this post.

He reminds me of Zap Brannigan

No mentions of Boomer and all the dwarf fortress stuff he spawned...

If we're going to talk the real meta of things, I think the /pol/ stuff actually leads to something that kills chans: people can't accept differing opinions. Everyone used to make racist jokes, but we knew most people weren't racist, and even if they were it was "mild" or "fun" racism. Someone says they love sucking dick all day, big deal, some anons love a good dick. When a really autistic troll popped up, it was normally a unique experience, it had some charm even if ultimately annoying.

Now, people want to tell you with pdfs and charts WHY they're racist, and why YOU SHOULD BE TOO. No one cares, but they still go on for 50 posts. Someone posts some tits under spoilers, some user will freak out and whine like a bitch with a skinned knee about something he posted and got banned for. All our autistic fucks are THE EXACT SAME, like they all got trained at autism camp and are the class of 2017. It's boring. Of course we have less OC, because posts are overall less original, the place is less varied and exciting. Most of us are just here now to get turned on to different plastic or cardboard shit to buy. It doesn't feel like a community that creates stuff anymore, because creativity involves people tossing ideas around and letting others expand on things. If no one can deal with new ideas, new ideas don't happen.

all of them died because of Veeky Forums's fucking uncontrollable autism

Instead of appreciating OC Veeky Forums latches onto it like a crackfiend and pushes it into everything, screeching and cackling with glee.

Veeky Forums is Slaanesh, and cannot into moderation.

Honestly? A totally cool 80's as fuck guard captain or comissar who is awesome and tubular and reminds kids to not do drugs and stay in the Schola Progenium sounds pretty dank, user.

Just this complete afterschool special "kids like the hip-hop" propoganda guy at utter dissonance with the horrors that await Imperial teenagers when they graduate (assuming they don't get drafted as soon as they're old enough to hold a rifle)

...that's an awfully specific three months to mention.

>Speech impediments aren't cute, they're annoying, and that's literally Cultist's character.
It wasn't supposed to be cute. IT was supposed to be a light-hearted jab at the poor voice acting in the DoW games, particularly that of the Chaos Cultists

She was cute, smelled like rotten bacon, and was a fantastic set up and punchline for an amazing number of 40k based jokes.

tell one then

>poor voice acting in the DoW games,
>poor
You misspelled FUCKING FANTASTIC

>be funny right now!

Or, you know, hey, stop being a newfag.

If you like her so much, why don't you buy her in POLISHED SILVER!

I'd actually get the 28mm mini they have on shapeways, but I don't think I actually care enough (and I don't play any flavor of Chaos).

>dissing DoW's voice acting

Nigga u high

No he spelled it right...

you have nothing, just like in your life

Calm down, Slaanesh.

Basically this. Nowadays going against the groupthink gets you labeled a Redditor or an SJW or /pol/ and the groupthink changes every thirty seconds, and anons are too busy arguing and bitching over who is a TRUE AND HONEST user and how other people are Social Justice /pol/ Redditor newfags.

When everyone was just user things were better, but now we have to label ourselves and others out of a bizarre sense of misguided tribalism.

Tribalism kills the chan dream.

I didn't know Ciaphas Cain had an American cousin!!

I blame this on a few things, in my uneducated opinion. Veeky Forums, and arguably the internet in general, is more reactionary. There's so much information being pumped out (and very quickly - memes show this since so many barely last months), it's easy to not have to create anything yourself and instead just react to constant new things - any attempts to create are drowned out in constant reactions to new things, or criticism and arguments. Ever notice how many threads are just reacting to some new 40k development, or what some videogame developer said?

And it's also harder to ignore people's opinions, when not only are they abounding in reality, but also being pressed and expressed on the internet too - part of that reactionary thing. There's a vague mindset of 'we were in it for the lulz' that older anons have expressed that I just don't see. It's all taken a lot more seriously now. Sometimes I feel like the internet has become less a separate sphere that doesn't really affect anything, and more an active part of normal people's lives that is taken far too seriously, but that's just conjecture.

Part of it is due to GG, and not exclusively the GG side, just... everyone. Veeky Forums has always been seen as "Free speech zone", and that was never political (both Right and Left greatly benefit from free speech), so censorship of that riled up a lot of people (and remember, /pol/ had been shutdown before for getting fucking nuts, it was already sort of a containment board). But GG, which was in large part about getting politics OUT of videogames, sadly got a lot of gamers INTO politics. And not even always in a "this is what I've always believed" but sometimes just in a "My ENEMY believes this, so I'll believe the opposite because FUCK THEM!". I've seen it happen to people, they only see two sides, and that side effects EVERY decision they make. It's such a cult mentality they they don't realize they become just a rightwinged SJW out of spite for leftwing SJWs.

So, sadly, everyone getting political fucks up Veeky Forums at its core. This is not a political place, if you looked Veeky Forums just 3 or 4 years ago, some anons would be shocked at how "Liberal" it seems. But the dream of Veeky Forums was people judged by their words, not their race, religion or nation. Obviously we COULD out ourselves as something, but that was seen as attention whore shit. Now anons care about identity politics, which runs entirely counter to what being an user was about.

And honestly, we've always been suckers for a basic troll. "Muslims are destroying the West!" is the new "Elven slavegirl"; you know it's retarded shit, but some anons just HAVE TO DO SOMETHING! But at least the Elven slavegirls of old were Veeky Forums related on some level. We mostly need more reporting and moving on (and you're right that some days we have little to talk about).

The 2016 election was where things completely went to shit. Ever since then, you have had an insidious group of redditors (I'm not just calling them that, it's literally r/The_Donald) completely shitting on the quality of the discourse on /pol/. They're also the ones who can't keep /pol/ on /pol/ and constantly invade other boards. They STILL have a Donald Trump general nearly a year after the election ended. It has no reason to exist.

Because /pol/ is seen as somewhere with actual influence instead of a fringe board, it's being constantly raided too. /leftypol/ has an entire discord of hundreds of people dedicated to disrupting /pol/ and false flagging on other boards. If you spent a little bit of time on /v/, you'd find people everywhere bringing up /pol/ for no fucking reason and deliberately baiting with shit like 'Why aren't trans developers accepted in the video game industry?'

In between the raiding, false flagging and r/The_Donald, the discourse on /pol/ and this whole fucking website has plummeted downward. There's no coming back from it either.

I saved this post I saw on /int/ because I think it encapsulates everything about how the internet went to shit.

Oh, man, Veeky Forums has problems, but I can't even LOOK at /v/ these days. It's a constant trashfire. I've also been to "That other"chan, and I gave up on the more populated boards there because the /pol/-/pol/baiting situation is beyond all reason. Every discussion had a political lean to it, and any straying from the "accepted" group think was a thread immediately derailed. And "accepted group think" was whatever each user believed, so EVERY thread would get derailed by someone, due to something.

I only came back to Veeky Forums in hopes that things weren't as bad. And they're not as bad, but it's still fairly terrible. I miss the days when I could relax and call an user a nigger. Not because he was black, not because I'm (very) racist, but just because. Now it's political to call an user a nigger... how fucked up is that?

>someone editing my Street Fighter Waifu to be racist

oh hell naw

She's Japanese, she doesn't hate black people, she hates ALL westerners get it right

Well, I've had this image for years, back when people were racist for play play, not for real real.

It's okay user, Makoto is still cool.

But that user does have a point...it was only a few years ago that nigga was still commonly thrown about on Veeky Forums, at least that I remember. But now, in the rare times I want to use it, I decide against it. It's weird how Veeky Forums doesn't feel like that sort of place anymore. You don't even hear fag all that much anymore. Maybe it's an attempt to look clean, maybe it's because someone doesn't want to be shot down with a 'get out /pol/' for not using the right terms...which doesn't feel very Veeky Forums to me, you know?

"Comissar Cool says being a heretic is not cool, and friends don't let friends be heretics! If you catch one of your friends being a heretic, report him to the Comissar Cool hotline to get a free Comissar Cool lunchbox! It's for their own good!"

I think Judge Dredd had something like that.

I think for me I feel like if I call someone nigga or jew or whatever, it's just going to bring the topic of race/religion into the thread. It doesn't matter how minor a reference, how obvious a joke, someone has been overflowing all day to get their opinion on (insert race/religion/country here) out of their head and onto the screen. And I just don't want to be the guy that gets the ball rolling, because then it means no one is talking about miniatures, rpgs or whatever.

On the core topic of the thread, I do miss seeing people being odd and creative. Even stupid shit like Squad Broken makes me miss those old days.

Sometimes Veeky Forums can still be fun, though I admit I don't see it much now. Once an artist tried to revive an old idea, one of those things where you drew bits of art along with a story developed by anons, and it saddened me to see it just...not really work. Maybe quests tainted the idea of such things too much, maybe no one else on at the time remembered or cared, or maybe the creative spirit is gone. I don't know. But I miss it, and I don't think I can make things better.

Shut up nigger

It's tough. Sad thing is, I always assumed that if Veeky Forums fell apart, we'd just make a new one. I just don't see that fixing things now, everyone would come in with the same desire to spout their politics, the same lean toward negativity, and the same shitposting. The problems we have are the problems the whole internet has, to varying degrees.

I'd like to think there are some real creative places out there still, but I don't know of them. I think it'll just take a while for the internet to figure itself out again, and then figure out how to keep people creative when there are people of all types who want to drown that out.

Thank you, user.

Get fucked you nigger faggot. That was the single gayest paragraph I've read today.

That's what happens when you actually have people who are extremely invested in the idea of racial supremacy instead of people just throwing around words without any real malice behind them. It's not really a joke anymore, so you can't really talk about it without people getting very serious. It just comes with the territory, not much that can be done about it.

Flinching when she punches in a red snap-cap? And doesn't even drop the slide? How am I supposed to fap to this?

Sorry, sorry, it was about the poor voice acting in FUCKING FANTASTIC games.

I generally use "faggot" and other terms like it when I'm telling /pol/tards to get fucked. It makes them look even more idiotic when they try and call me an SJW for telling them stop derailing shit.

>You don't even hear fag all that much anymore.
Everywhere I look on the site, it's "normie this, normies that." I miss when everyone was some kind of faggot. I still try to use -fag terms, for old time's sake.

>I always assumed that if Veeky Forums fell apart, we'd just make a new one.
Being trapped here since 2004, and having seen the sheer number of 2chan and Veeky Forums splinter sites rise and fall, I've never been able to assume we'd recreate a proper copy to replace Veeky Forums. iichan, 4-ch, 7chan, 420chan, wtfux, kochan, not4chan, gurochan, 1chan, 5chan, 6chan, reichan, star*chan, 573chan, 6ch, 12chan, 2chan, pchan, desuchan, and neechan to name some of the more prominant ones.

As you said, it would most likely attract either people wanting to colonize it for their own vision of what Veeky Forums was/was meant to be, or people will just bring over their biases and prejudices from their time on Veeky Forums and carry on as if nothing changes. Ruin would probably follow shortly thereafter.

>It's not really a joke anymore, so you can't really talk about it without people getting very serious.
Reminds me of how someone once said something to the effect of "You can just say racist words for a laugh and not have it be all that harmful, because they are said in jest. Actual racists aren't all that funny because they are actually serious about the things they say."

Why is this so cute...

>Sometimes I feel like the internet has become less a separate sphere that doesn't really affect anything, and more an active part of normal people's lives that is taken far too seriously, but that's just conjecture.

That is very much a result of the ever faster gentrification of the internet that has been going on for a decade and half by this point. As a whole it has made the internet a more sanitized, sterilized, and overall far less vibrant and lively than it used to be.

We get it in bursts and spurts. There are still some people around, but they either can't sustain it on their own or they get shut down by whiny faggots who bitch at them and make them feel unwanted.

No, that happens when you have people who are invested in the idea of others being invested into any idea (some investception is going on here). You can never tell if a random user in the internets is serious or not, and you don't even have to care if some random irrelevant dude holds his special set of beliefs you disagree with. The problem arises when you start to care.

The problem with internet is not with "bad" opinions. It's with people suddenly caring about others opinions that are irrelevant to the topic at hand. Feeding the trolls, being triggered by random irrelevant shit, demanding respect for being a very special and unique person is all the shit these days.

It's the internets, nobody cares (or, rather, nobody should care. That we do is the problem) about you little nigger shit and your political opinions and your troubles and worries and magical equestrian realm of How Things Should Be. You don't fucking exist here you little piece of shit. Only your post exists. If you post is shit or does not relate to the topic at hand - fuck off with your bullshit elsewhere or kys. internet is not your personal amy or blog audience.

Because the artist did a bunch of cute-ass shit?

Captain, not Comissar.
Captain Cool actually works for a living, thank you.

>Officers
>Working for a living

Right laugh that is.

It did, that's part of the origin for Judge Death, he reported his own father

Oh my god, this! I just want to talk about Wolfenstein or old Call of Duty, but nooooooo; it somehow triggers countless nazifags or alt-right morons. The last decent Wolf thread was about shitposting in German.

Oh man, I fucking loved the New Order, and now just talking about a VIDEOGAME where you kill Nazis triggers people like crazy. I know some of it's just shitposting, but that makes people who do piss and moan come out because they think they're among friends. I mean, shit, is /tv/ derailed at any mention of Indiana Jones? No, every thread is "How come Liberals are so mean to NAZIS!" (even though I know quite a few conservatives who aren't fans of Nazis either), or "Why do they allow so many BLACK CHARACTERS in this WWI game?"
Just talk about the GAME! People pissing and moaning about game violence or identity poltics is exactly why most people got into GG, not just so people could complain about game violence and identity politics in a slightly different way. Fuck, I've seen people freak out about female protags in game, which is hilarious because when GG started and the press was saying all gamers were sexists, no one gave a shit about that kinda thing. The worst I'd see is people saying they don't play Skullgirls because it had no guys in it at the time.

So people freak out about shit like this in Veeky Forums? Like, will a guy refuse to use a token in Clue because it's a female character?

it's ridiculously easy to spot /pol/ posters. It's always the same phrases and "memes". Word for word, like it's a single person spamming thousands of posts at once.
it's not because they use the word nigger. i use that word, but i'm not a /pol/ tard.

Only Scott McNeil and whoever it was that voiced Kyras

They are cute.

As BJ says in the new Quake, we must never give in these people.

I now want to see an Imperial world that looks like it's stuck in the late 80's/early 90's and the Tech Priests look like picture related instead of the usual hooded guys.

Also all the lasguns fire neon colored beams that rapidly shift through glaring neon colors.

I cant really comment on the tone of the website as that has bern mentioned already. But after being here for around 6 years I think Veeky Forums at least is just being hard on itself. Of all the boards its still pretty comfy like before and besides the few minor issues which leak into the board on occassion as mentioned above, I dont think its quite as doom and gloom as people are making it out to be. Some Veeky Forums anons act like the board (tg itself) has become a cess pool. I can say with confidence no it has not. A tiny bit more aggro than before but miniscule when you look at /v/ or Veeky Forums.

We are doing pretty ok i think.

I'd love an 80s world, and all the tech looks like it did during the Rogue Trader days.

I browse /co/, and let me tell you Veeky Forums is much better off in comparison. There's only one or two politically charged threads instead of ten, five of which are on the same subject.

That is probably due to /co/'s subject being somewhat influenced by politics anyway. A lot of preachy hackney writers trying to be preachy so its only natural it will generate chat like that. Veeky Forums has only changed in my view in that it just seems more pessimistic about itself.

that's because most of the ./pol/shit is hidden in the middle of the threads.

Did Veeky Forums make any OC Warhammer fantasy chaacters?
I was watching a total warhammer 2 livestream yesterday and thought that if this had come out a decade ago, people would have drawn, written and commissioned porn of the game characters.

What happened to writefagging anyway?

But that's what's so frustrating about it: American superhero comics have ALWAYS had a progressive lean, so the only thing people should be complaining about is when the writer shoots their own message in the foot (something a lot of bad writers, especially with Marvel, do due to lack of editors). Superman, the start of superheros, preached tolerance for decades while throwing Hitler and Stalin in jail (with no regard for international law). So there aren't really any mainstream comics for people as conservative as on /co/ will at times claim to be.

I guess one thing that helps here is that most of our games are pretty apolitical. Our game creators aren't as well known or as vocal as the ones for videogames. We have no Randy Pitchford to sing about bigots because he got upset at a lame tweet joke, or Tim Schafer to do sock puppet acts. And if a game has a political angle, most people who don't agree with it just won't go into threads about it. We keep isolated enough not to annoy eachother as much as other boards.

/co/ became /comblr/ the day mods pushed the ponies out of /b/. Not even the containment board that followed could fix the damage.

>American superhero comics have ALWAYS had a progressive lean

That's really a poor interpretation of American comics.
Tolerance by itself isn't "progressive" (it''s tolerance of things like criminals and fetishes), and punching literal Hitler isn't "progressive."
In general, preachy and genuinely "progressive" comics have almost always undersold or been been discontinued. It's why the evil white male superheroes remain the most popular, despite endless efforts to introduce "progressive" characters or re-imagine older ones.

>I miss when everyone was some kind of faggot
It's time we made faggotry great again
>/mlpol/
What a glorious day that was

probably because they are badly written.
>punching hitler isn't progressive
It was for the time it was written. This is just as bad as what tumblr liberals say about everyone being evil cis scum compared to their own ultra progressive selves.

American comics in general have been progressive given their social context, and marvel being shit now has more to do with their terrible editorial policy

>So people freak out about shit like this in Veeky Forums? Like, will a guy refuse to use a token in Clue because it's a female character?

Tune in to any Magic spoiler season and watch how many people complain any time a black person shows up on a card.

millenials are basically
>people I don't like.
Also if you are a drawfag, you are better off at tumblr.

>Gorgutz
>Gabe
>Isador
>Taldeer
>Thule
>Eliphas
>Jonah
>entirety of the orks and chaos
>bad
Commit Hari Krishna immediately

A-at least we got Dawn of War tier voice acting in total warhammer.

I recently bought one. It's shipped, so should show up on WIP soon enough. Interested to see how well shapeways does on 28mm models.

...

Lof always looked too much like an Eldar, nothing abut her makes you think she is half human.