I miss the GW miniatures for WFB, especially Brets. Is there any way to get a hold of those now, or should I just resign myself to third-party miniatures?
Adam Nelson
ebay
Carter Collins
TMS made new not!Brets. Pricey though.
Ryan Cruz
It's tried and true, but there are so few miniatures, they're generally expensive.
I haven't actually seen any pictures of the models themselves, but I'm not really excited for third-party models in general.
Jace Rivera
Damn it that's good.
Lucas Clark
I didn't see it answered but what happens when a Vampire commits diablerie?
Samuel Carter
The TMS Brets aren't bad most sculpts are pretty good but usually about 1998-2005 GW plastics quality similar to plastic GW Brets Unfortunately in resin though
Owen Clark
Forty euro.
Andrew Anderson
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Jaxon Rogers
Surely any scale compatible historical mini would do, right? How do the Perry Miniatures mounted knights hold up in comparison?
Henry Watson
Ind soon
Julian Baker
probably never. I would rather get halfings and ogres.
Kevin Watson
Ind has so little written about it that it makes Cathay look like Elder Scrolls lore. I think the best anyone could do with it right now is 'it's like historical India but there's also beastmen,' which is cool if you like historical India but also rather vague and uninteresting if there's nothing more to that. At least from the bits of fluff presented in some books, you could make an army out of Cathay that wasn't just 'China but fantasy.'
Owen Cooper
>he called the coins suvarna >ind has no use for gold >coin's name is literally gold.
Josiah Campbell
You know a game is dead when people start talking about other games in its general.
Andrew Hall
I don't know but probably not well.
Jason Ross
It's a shame that there isn't more myhtoligical India based Ind lore, because that shit is fucking nuts.
Michael Taylor
>Jack chick edition Why haven't there been many Christian Zealots complaining about Warhammer in any of it's incarnations?
Hudson Wilson
Based on that it should be like chaos warriors in a way, super tough units but low in number. Only they are also supported by human archers.
Oliver Scott
I've always heard people say this, but I only read that portion of the Bhagavad Gita where Krishna is telling the prince to do his job and kill his family. What crazy shit is there?
I think it's because Warhammer wasn't really popular in the US like Dungeons and Dragons was. During the 90's Warhammer doubled down on Chaos cults and shit like that, but no one in Britain cared.
Grayson Perez
The only explicit instances I can think of come from Vermintide, where we know from dialogue that Saltzpyre took a number of skaven prisoners and tortured them for information.
Posting the image compilation I've been putting together of Araby
Oliver Jackson
more about crazy animesque adventures. Arjuna gets exiled while he is already exiled and bangs 4 chicks including a snek waifu because he interrupted his brother boning their common wife.
Jacob Sanchez
>re: skaven prisoners They're mentioned in the Chaos Dwarf section of Tamurkhan. Unless they plan to kill them or immediately work them to death, they execute any they take prisoner, because every other time that they haven't, the prisoners turn out to be filled with spies, saboteurs, and sometimes deliberately infect with diseases.
Bentley Young
Who is this Spine of Sotek faction in Warhammer 2?
Luis Murphy
A Dwarf faction based off a lore snippet in the official Lustria map in the form of a location called "Mine of Bearded Skulls".
Nolan Taylor
Dwarfs. 8e mentioned Sven from 2e sailing to Lustria.
Juan Cruz
The Spine of Sotek is the name of the mountain range, I know that much. And it's obviously a dwarf faction, since the banner is dwarven - there's a slight chance it might be a standin for another faction, but I don't see why.
Otherwise all I can do is guess - I know there was a Dwarf Engineer named Sven Hasselfriesian in older lore that went to Lustria, so maybe this is based around that.
Camden Flores
I can buy actual 6th ed KotR off ebay for that much, and they actually look like Bretonnian knights.
Carter Parker
The shit you see in Mahabharata is beyond power levels
Kayden Wright
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Tyler Butler
What is the more commonly-accepted height for Ogres in the fluff? 10ft tall?
Ryan Harris
/awg/ is putting together a list of oldhammer model producers. Could you fine gentlemen offer any suggestions? Looking for late 80s to mid 90s model style. Basically anything pre 3rd ed 40k when they went full plastic multipart kits. We have like five with large ranges already but want to make a conclusive list and keep it up to date.
[Spoiler]Don't eat a beef sandwich at a 9th age tournament. You will get banned for offending a Hindu. Remember to be inclusive to your disabled, transexuals Muslim woman of colour or you're not welcome![/spoiler]
Easton Brooks
>tfw no Digimon models or kits >just wannabe gunpla and fapstatues
Justin Price
>Southern Chaos Wastes What happens here?
Hudson Clark
About to prime this. But that's off topic
Andrew Robinson
Beastmen happen there. Lots and lots of beastmen. Pray they never figure out boats.
Sebastian Scott
>lustria the only place free of taint
Lizardmen confirmed master race
Matthew Foster
And High Elves.
Luis Lewis
You skipped over Ulthuan and the Dark Lands. And oddly enough, the Lost Isles of Elithis. Makes you wonder what's going on down there.
Parker Perry
Are there any daemons or antarctic marauders there?
Christian Lopez
>lost isles
the beastmen can't find them, duh
Cooper Morris
I don't see why there wouldn't be - the Chaos Wastes to the north probably let a bunch of people roam straight to the South Pole.
Christian Sanders
Say, is there any circumstance under which an infant dwarf would be left in the care of their father for a couple of days? I just have this image of someone dropping a tankard by mistake and the baby responds by screaming "Krut!" and then the father looks sheepish while his wife glares at him.
Ryder Green
Dwarves don't form dedicated bond pairs, a dwarf wife will be 'married' to several dwarves iirc, and children are raised in communal creches run by the women.
So not really.
Lucas Williams
Can anyone sum up 4th, 6th and 7th edition gameplay? How different are 6th and 7th compared to 8th (other than army sizes) and each other and how different is 4th to 5th? If I remember correctly, heroes in 5th were OP (hence Herohammer), and 8th involved bigger infantry blocks than normal and had really OP cannons or something.
Kevin Cook
wait what?
Daniel Carter
>Belegar gets killed like a bitch by Queek >Thorgrim gets killed by an NPC assasin >Ungrim watches his hold get blown to fuck Litteraly not canon.
Logan Watson
>thanks dude. You're welcome mate.
>not sure how 8th plays at 2500 but always fun to read gamelists (wish that people on WFB general posted more of 'em)
I've played a couple of matches of 2500 and to me it seems to handle well. If you'd want you could put together some really cheesy lists with it.
>3000 pts I try to bring two of everything. thanks for the advice about them chariots tho! Oh, interesting, post your list!
Anthony Reyes
Prince Ograx the Great, the strongest of Archaon's champions is from there IIRC.
Mason Adams
Never mind, i'm a fucking derp. For some reason I got my lore mixed up
Dwarves totally marry. Women in fact have tremendous bargaining power in marriage since there are so few of them.
Zachary Cooper
What rot! Dwarfs love their wives as much as any manling loves his - more, in fact! And the feeling is mutual! Sometimes, hardship simply necessitates that a wife take multiple husbands, and in that case it's almost always brothers!
Have a care, umgi, or you'll get a line in the book.
Anthony Roberts
>you will never be a thicc dwarven QT >you will never get double teamed by you husbando and his brothero, each taking a turn at either side so no ones sure whose child it is
Suffering worse than hell
Chase Green
>dat pimpslap on the demon. kek
Noah Gomez
This is the epitome of Warhammer to me.
Asher Smith
Does anyone have a larger version of this?
Brody Scott
Best I could find was this, but I'd keep looking if I were you.
Jayden Fisher
Fuckin' Classic.
That said, the slew of new Lizardmen art we've been getting with the vidya game has been beautiful too, but they're one of the few factions in Warhammer that benefits more from colour art than the gritty old black and white style.
Bentley Hughes
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Sebastian Roberts
Thank you.
Ayden Harris
Anyone have any art of Morathi where she doesn't have her top out?
Strange question I know, but there is reason for it.
Christopher Sanders
What goes into the Book of Grudges exactly? Slights like oath-breaking, unprovoked attacks or the desecration of ancestor tombs are obvious but what about cases like a dwarf army being defeated in battle during a war and a general killed in combat? Does that still count as a wrong to be avenged or is some sort of distinction made?
Kevin Rivera
Here's a fan concept of what an Ind army could look like
Brody Smith
>What goes into the Book of Grudges exactly? Short answer: everything Longer answer: No, a defeat does usually not go into the book, as long as the war is "proper" in some way, like the enemy declares war and not just attacks for no good reason at all.
Leo Thompson
>Ind >Tiger cavalry Spare me.
In writing an army list, I think you have to detail the culture and geography of the faction first, otherwise you're just left with generic units based on history and mythology.
There's no White Lions without Chrace and no Questing Knights without the Grail.
Jaxson Edwards
>generic units based on history and mythology
this is literally what WHFB is. Or did you forget Kislev bear cavalry and araby genies being canon
Jason Anderson
>otherwise you're just left with generic units based on history and mythology Like so many other armies? We barely have any fluff about Ind, so on what should one base its army list if not the history and myhtology of that place?
Jayden White
>Kislev bear cavalry One off-hand mention in an 8th edition book as far as I can tell and not in any of the previous books for Warhammer, Warmaster or WFRP.
Fuck Bear Cavalry.
Jeremiah Cook
WFRP holds that Boris was the first in a while close enough to a bear to ride one, though the Cult of Ursun and even regular soldiers do train them for fighting.
Connor Scott
nearly every regular unit has a lot of geographical and historical flavour from the real world or it's myths. If you want to, I would rather remove the cavalry archers and replace them with more exotic warriors like urumi bearers. Historically india was a pretty bad place for horse archery because of it's humid weather that decomposed compound bows.
Or how about something more like friendly vampires? It would go well with the mess that is ind which has a lot less von carstein shittery and maybe less of an aversion to the undead.
Parker Bell
More solid than you'd think. Cathayan vampires was one of the core ideas for a new vampire bloodline - moving it to Ind nstead has a nicer feel to it, especially given Cathays tie to Tzeentch.
Jeremiah Carter
the official tsar boris mini from the mid-90s has him riding a polar bear
Gabriel Smith
Unmounted fighting bears are a different matter. They were in Warmaster, Mordheim and WFRP.
Josiah Butler
The fact that Boris tamed and rode Urskin was considered remarkable and he was made the high priest of Ursun for it.
And the model came out just before the Storm of Chaos, so it was a mid-2000s model.
Nathaniel Lee
Agreed.
Jaxson Turner
Name them Vetaalas. An offshoot of lahmians that allied with snek people to protect the coastal settlements of ind from dark elf raiders.
Aiden Clark
A nice user was giving quick run downs of faction lore yesterday we that was humorous and to the point. Anyway anyone can let me know about Tomb kings? Dosnt have to be funny but I'm confused that people say they were like gods but lizardmen seem to be the one who talked to gods.
Angel Nelson
>Nehekhara the first human civilization >worshiped death, built huge tombs, stone sphinxes and giants >constantly seek immortality >guy named Nagash kills brother and subjugates throne >learned Dark Magic from Dark Elves, afterwards entombed them alive, becomes immortal >other kings rebel and defeat him, queen Neferata finds his books and copies his elixir of immortality becoming first vampire >Nagash comes back and rises every dead in Nehekhara, curses all water with deadly poison >king Alcadizaar manages to kill him using skaven warpsword and goes mad after knowing he is last alive man in country >1100 years later Nagash resurrects but Tomb Kings kick him out from Nehekhara >Sigmar bashes him with Warhammer >first king Settra claims to rebuild his realm as far as Empire
Ian Mitchell
That's fanmade. where'd you get it?
Kevin Nguyen
Do the tomb kings are dark elves? Or is that unrelated? Did they take the immortality potion, die, and just come back as skeletons? Had it always been run by skeletons since they killed nagash? Did they all wake up the same time as nagash?
Samuel Bennett
Nagash bind undead to his will, Tomb Kings appeared only after he died, it was ruled by them ever since.
Brayden Sanders
Alright check this shizzle
>long ago - after the sundering of elf kind and the War of Vengeance - in a distant land - the northeast of Warhammer's Africa - there was a great civilization >Called Nehekhara, these guys were the shit, and performed feats of engineering, science, alchemy, art, and culture not all of which have been matched since >there was only one problem: all men die >enter Settra, the greatest king Nehekhara ever had, possibly the greatest human king ever, certainly the peer of such later figures as Sigmar or Gilles Le Breton >in life, Settra united the disparate Nehekharan kingdoms, crushed his enemies, and expanded his borders to the Borderlands, Tilea, Bretonnia, and parts of what would become the Empire >Settra was getting old, though >galley by the inevitability of death, he took the members of the Nehekharan priesthood he felt could get the job done and charged them with finding a way to abolish death itself, and so the Mortuary Cult was born >the Cult made great strides in extending life in Settra's lifetime, but nonetheless he died; he was prepared in such a fashion that, when the time came, he could be restored to life >things continued this way for a while >Nehekhara fractured again, the Cult thrived, kings were preserved, and the civilization declined >men became more concerned with death than life >still, none dared to build a tomb greater than Settra's...yet >enter Nagash, a member of the Mortuary Cult, and eventually its head priest >Nagash was a match for Settra in will, vision, and thirst for dominion...but Nagash was as blackhearted as a man could be >Nagash would have the good fortune of capturing some druchii Magister >using torture and dialogue, he prided the secrets of Dark Magic from them, then buried them alive >Nagash was not content to simply ape someone else's accomplishments >combining what he divined of Dark Magic with his knowledge from the Cult, he created a unique and hideous magic, Necromancy
Joshua Russell
I'm talking about in Warhammer. I just used the word for convenience
Asher Rivera
>using this, he produced his ironically named elixir of life, which finally conquered death, after a fashion >from his black pyramid, the only thing built in Nehekhara that dared surmount Nagash's tomb, he set out to conquer everyone and everything >long story short, he lost and was thought destroyed >Nehekhara returned to normal, not knowing Nagash had endured and was preparing the world's largest chimpout in retaliation >a spoiled, bored noblewomen in the kingdom of Lahmia, incensed at the restrictions that kept her from the Cult, set out to study her own way of conquering death >she used a lieutenant of Nagash, who directed the creation of the second elixir of life to produce the first vampires >Neferata then ruled Lahmia in a debauched bloodbath of orgies and feeding, which eventually united the other kingdoms against her >BTFO, she and the other vampires scattered >bad news, though, Nagash was back...and looking for employees >the vampires were forced into serving him using a cursed magic item given to one of their number, Vashhanesh, and Nagash used poison, necromancy, and his knowledge of Mortuary Cult rites to kill Nehekhara ,reduce the land to a sterile desert, and raise every dead king, noble, soldier, and peasant as a slave >Nagash was only undone when the skaven, fearing his runaway success with their help, armed a prisoner of his with a weapon designed to actually destroy him >it worked, sort of >the resurrected kings, all claiming the same turf, fell to dighting, while the Mortuary Cult worked to fix this shit >by now they had found their own immortality, chaining their spirits to bodies that could not die, becoming liches >still, even this established success was not the same as resurrecting the dead for true or undoing Nagash's curses >speaking of, he's back, but a bit more cautious, though it doesn't help, Sigmar kills his ass again, and he comes back again >Nagash now engages in a cold war with the Tomb Kings, seeking his crown
Jace Morales
>Settra finally wipes the sleep from his skull, sees everyone shitting and pissing everywhere, and goes fucking ballistic >he brutally forces all the proud princes of Nehekhara under his rule, smarter ones just bend the knee when told to >Settra is organizing and securing his realm, looking to punish chimp tier savages (as he sees them) squatting in his periphery realms (as he sees them)
Also the vampires are still out there, having tricked and betrayed Nagash. Most of them pee blood at the thought of his full return but some still worship him.
Nolan Adams
So...This is....the power of....Athel Loren
Camden Thomas
Here comes a new challenger
Charles Ward
>Pray they never figure out boats. They just have to grow wings.
Jose Jackson
wood elf ass is plumper and more enticing.
Gavin Phillips
No.
Jace Ross
LARGER
Nolan Diaz
I don't get the Tzeentch thing. One character in Marienburg worships him, and suddenly everyone thinks it's official? Another book hints that the whole country is run by vampires, why aren't they vampire lovers?
Isaiah Parker
What mod?
Angel Campbell
>especially given Cathays tie to Tzeentch Why is a whole country tied to single chaos god? How does that make sense? I mean it's personal character and circumstances that makes you worship a chaos god. Not because of a local trend.
Ethan Howard
Dark elf ass is tighter and cuter.
Isaac Nguyen
Only matters if you are using her gastrointestinal tract for the purpose of vigorous fornication.
Jace Perry
I don't think they have the concept of diablerie in WHFB as they do in V:TM, because I don't think the method of turning someone into a vampire is the same (having a piece of your soul combine with and mutate the soul of the victim)