/STG/ - Star Trek General

>Riker Troi and Lwaxxanna

Holy shit, the expressions on that are fucking perfect.

>Trek thread on /aco/
It's a well known fact - one that's VERY evident there - that there is no good Trek porn. Seriously, it isn't a futafag spamming, it's just because that's what the overwhelming majority of the shit is, and even the "normal" stuff is fucking disgusting.

Star Trek just never (or at least, very rarely) did sexy well anyway, no wonder there's no good porn.

because garak/bashir was altogether too wholesome for porns.

Which is a shame, since every other show had bombshells that could have been sexy, but weren't portrayed as such.

The only good Trek porn is M'ress because furfags saturate everything so there's some good porn simply by quantity.

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This again. Awesome.

I really like Bajorans as monkeys, that fits so much better.

When they tried it mostly just didn't work, coupled with the continually awful civilian-wear they had going on, like when they put Jadzia in that terrible bathing suit when they went to Risa and complicated it further by having her act like an asshole. Or just how Troi was always hotter in a uniform than in anything else she wore, including when she wore nothing.

Doesn't help that none of the dudes are ones I'd want to see in porn either, even where they are good-looking, the characters just don't fit. Like who wants to see Geordie go at it with anyone? He's just too nice. I'd want to see that character at most go on a date and have interesting conversations about space-magic-tech, not whip his dick out and go to pound-town.

I am fully aware this may all just be me. But even so,
I'm not exactly lacking for an open mind when it comes to porn.

What the fuck am I looking at and how much brain bleach do I need to remove it?

"What if Star Trek was REAL ALIENS?" except the aliens just look like Earth animals for the most part. Kes a cute though.

The idea here is that the Bajorans are more ape-like and the Cardassians are more like lizards. It's pretty retarded but there's fanfics for ya.

>tfw want to jerk to to M'ress porn, but can only picture Lwaxana Troi's wrinky old face

Oh look at the time; it's brain damage o'clock.

We haven't even started yet.

Neither have I.

You'll never take me alive.

So do we ever seen any other environmental suits other than the starfleet ones?

Also, do the Gorn have them?

I hate that STO didn't stop to think that the reason the Environmental Suits in First Contact had those red patches was because all the wearers were in the Command track. I just want divisional suit dammit.

In canon? No, the suits were stupidly expensive so we barely ever saw them and certainly not for anyone but the main peoples.

Reasonably though it'd be insane if everyone who might need one didn't have them.

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What do you do in case of a puncture for those?

And do fighter pilots get them?

then picture nurse chapel instead

>What do you do in case of a puncture for those?
Wrap a piece of dead Borg around the puncture.

>And do fighter pilots get them?
Unconfirmed.

Is it ever stated how the Cardiassian Military was rebuilt post Dominion War or if they ever made good on any of the technological advances they may have gleaned from the Dominion?

Are they still going to be an expansionist power going forward? I can't really see any other way for their nation to grow as powerful as their neighbors without conquest given their nation is said to be resource poor.

In STO it looks like they are very slowly getting absorbed into the UFP.

UFP is helping to rebuild them, including them in discussions that they are too small and insignificant to deserve inclusion in and the Cardasians seem grateful for this and are pushing for closer ties.

If the trend continues they will inevitably file for inclusion for the sake of convenience. Also it seems that the next big expansion is going to be 29th century UFP (because why the fuck would anyone want anything other than another UFP expansion amirite guiz) and a playable race in that start is cardassian. No doubt a suitably hideous 29c Utility Cruiser is churning in someones bowels as we speak, ready to be shat out on demand.

>discussions that they are too small and insignificant

I thought they were one of the five races that are said to have been influenced before their creation by a vast state that ruled that area of space some millions of years ago?

Plus doesn't any path that isn't allowing them to join leaving the Union with no choice but resumed expansion?

>it seems that the next big expansion is going to be 29th century UFP
Where the fuck did that come from? The teaser we got showed a Dominion fleet coming through the wormhole; how does that tie into the 29th century Feds?

>a playable race in that start is cardassian

Oh God, I'd be such a whale for STO if this ever came about.

By 25c they are broken, have made no friends who are still both their friends and not also broken and any gains they made from the UFPs good will has been lost. No matter what they were they are, in the time of Admiral (you), a shitty backwater full of bombed out buildings and the occasional band of fanatics blaming everyone else for their fuck ups and the direct consequences. They have hope now only because the UFP permits them to by their charity, charity they are profoundly ungrateful for. Or at least that's the impression I got every time I met the Cardassians in STO.

>Plus doesn't any path that isn't allowing them to join leaving the Union with no choice but resumed expansion?

Not really. That would require investment they literally can't afford. Their only real options for long term are fade into a neighboring nation or slowly die.

Dominion exists in 29c, we see them at the signing of the Temporal Accords.

Also much like the 23c start you get Temporal Warred into 25c.

Also I'm going to assume that there is a Dominion faction in the Temporal Cold War just because it's the laziest way to go. Maybe they can rope Walter Koenig to do some more 0 enthusiasm voice work and get someone to fuck up a Scottish accent an try and convince us it sounds like James Doohan fucking up a Scottish accent.

Some of the books have Cardassia becoming increasingly polarised between restorationists who want to bring back good ol' Cardassia and a democratic movement that generally want peace with the Feds and potentially inclusion within the UFP

The laziest would be Dominion War 2, which looks like it's exactly what we'll get.

Also:

>Cardassians never ever

You forgot that the only thing holding together the democratic movement is Garak and his "I will fuck you up if you even look like you're going to ruin Cardassia again" mentality. The amount of unconfirmed political assassinations/discrediting he's racked up in Beta canon would put me right off of Cardie politics forever I was a restorationist. Also, Gul Macet (Marc Alaimo's first role) is head of the Cardassian Military, and uses his resemblance to his more famous cousin to unnerve the hell out of people.

Restoration is really one of the better routes isn't it?

Joining the Federation sounds as if it means they lose their national identity to a degree.

>uses his resemblance to his more famous cousin to unnerve the hell out of people.
do they actually leverage his appearance like that in the books? that's a nice touch

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Maybe they just realize that something in their nature needs to be repressed like the vulcans. Maybe they don't think losing their identity for a bit is such a bad thing considering the war and then genocide they've just endured.

Yeah they do. When Kira interacts with him there's always a part of her inner monologue commenting about it.

Mostly it's the fact that the ones who want to be expansionist think that now that the major Alpha Quadrant powers got beaten up a lot by the Borg that they have a shot at dominance again.

>hey
>we found a super-ship that can rek borg cubes in minutes
>it's attached to this ship we're investigating
>it seems to be a vessel
>permission to enter captain
After all, when has trespassing ever pissed anyone off?

Did this tank the ratings? This shoulda tanked the ratings.

And her argument is literally "muh Kim."

Kathryn "Only I am allowed to make Harry miserable!" Janeway.

Saved the show from cancellation.

Shit, really?
Maybe ENT needed Archer to make a morally fucked decision for no real reason and it'd have made season 5.

youtube.com/watch?v=Sbut8Sp7jY4

Watch this clip, press the 9 key.

HOURS OF FUN FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY!

How could there be war crimes, when there wasn't any war?

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Suder was the best betazoid character in Trek History.
He was also played by the best actor to ever be on Voyager, including the main cast

worfs wife was fuckin hot

Jadzia was fucking hot, you're right.

Jadzia was not only worst Dax but also worst DS9 girl in general.

TOS has plenty of sexy.

Seriously, she's even behind Leeta in characterization.

How can one man be so wrong?

Literally the only good thing about Jadzia is how hot her actress is. The actual character is garbage.

agree 100%

this is now an unpopular opinion thread

TOS aged like milk
Picard is over rated
The Robin Hood Episode of tng was better than all the holodeck episodes combined

I agree, best actor on voyager other than picardo. And they got an episode together where they saved the ship

How can one man be so wrong, again?

>TOS aged like milk
No, the 60s aged like milk. The good lessons that TOS tried to teach us are just as good now as they were then. The 60s veneer is what you have issue with.

>Picard is over rated
No, he really isn't. He is one of the best captains, maybe the best (that's debatable, obviously). It mostly is because the competition isn't amazing.

>The Robin Hood Episode of tng was better than all the holodeck episodes combined
Ok, I can't disagree with you here.

Agree 200%
Fucking Suder and Doctor in Basics was probably VOY best episodes.

2nd place is Flashbacks because Excelsior.

3rd would probably be Equinox.

The lessons they were teaching in the 60s were kind of dead by the time anyone here was born.

Holodeck episodes would include the Enterprise finale so you're wrong. I can't remember any good holosuite eps though to cram that in too.

Equinox was the Homer's Enemy of VOY.

>ent finale
>good

>I can't remember any good holosuite eps though to cram that in too.
Our Man Bashir was pretty good, so was the one where Nog turns hikikomori.

>The lessons they were teaching in the 60s were kind of dead by the time anyone here was born.
They really weren't, some lessons are universal.

>Combs
>Frakes
>not an amazing episode

>>Frakes
>>an amazing episode

He didn't direct it.

I loved it. It gave us that "What If?" we were all wondering.
What if Janeway said "fuck it. we're going home by any means.
"Prime directive? You mean Prime Suggestions."

But all it really did was draw attention to the fact that the show bends over backwards for Janeway to be correct.

>60s aged like milk
No, bad writing, acting and awful storytelling are bad no matter when it was made

>but muh message
I watch TV to be entertained, any messages should not get in the way of telling a good story which early TNG and TOS does way too much.

>Picard is over rated
yep he's a complete mary sue and his character isnt very well fleshed out. It's just good acting that saved it

>No, he really isn't. He is one of the best captains, maybe the best
It has nothing to do with being a captain. His character is just bad, like most of the TNG crew

How is this?

from what I saw it looked really simple and not very trek themed other than the names of the cards

although I did only see it in Wil Wheaton's fucking awful traditional game show

A better show would have had the Equinox escape and become the major antagonist for the next season

>you haven't seen the last of me, janeway!

>constantly trying to stay ahead of the big and (relatively) slow but more efficient Voyager, gaining a lead then blowing it because of overstressed systems or a lack of resources on a smaller ship
>Poaching Maquis crew from Janeway who gave up on sapient rights after dealing with the spoonheads, maybe an arc where Chakotay is a double agent for Janeway but questions whether Equinox's approach is better
>being forced to team up with Voyager due to (enemy of the day), contrast between crews grows over time
>ultimately fail not because of methodology but random chance, integrate with Voyager crew with ongoing disagreements over underlying philosophy/values
I don't know whether VOY or ENT had more squandered potential...

What do you think that prison camp for the survivors of Khitomer was?

It's not an RPG, but it isn't trying to be. It has a few parts that do make it kind of feel like Star Trek, especially the constant temptation to go tell the Prime Directive to fuck itself.

The intention behind most of TOS still holds up, but the expression of that intention is ham-handed and dated.

Perfect example: remember how the final episode of TOS hinges on the fact that women still aren't allowed to be starship captains in the Federation? Everyone tries to forget that ever happened.

>actual realistic person(s) contrasted against "it resets every episode because m-muh syndication"
>makes the guy you should be rooting for the antagonist
>ends in a reset button of its own just to frustrate everyone
I fucking hate how true this is

W talk a lot about the ship but I want to know what everyone's opinion is on the uniforms. What's your canon favorite and what is your favorite fan created version.

Personally I like the DS9 uniforms from later on in the series. If they could get around to putting pockets on them they would be perfect.

Sorry for off topic but that show was fucking great.
Probably has something to do with Hayao Miyazaki working on some of its episodes.

>Suder
>not our dear lady, daughter of the fifth house, holder of the sacred chalice of rixx and heir to the holy rings of betazed

The definitive list:

Goddest of God Tiers
>WoK (as a dress uniform, at least)

God Tier
>STO's Odyssey
>VOY/Early DS9

Demigod "Not Very Trek-y But Still A Good Uniform" Tier
>ENT
>STO's Sierra
>JJTrek nonstandard (Dress, Survival, Flag Officer, Starbase, etc)

Okay Tier
>Late TNG (Shirt & Trousers)
>All Good Things...
>TOS
>JJTrek standard

Meh Tier
>TNG Movie/Late DS9
>29c (Relativity)

oh shit nigger what are you doing Tier
>Early TNG (Spandex)
>Timecop
>TMP
>STD
>any and all prime universe cadet uniforms

I like voyager's the most tbqh
Black looks nice as the primary color

>worst DS9 girl
>Jadzia
>not Keiko "MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILES!!!!!" O'Brien
Jadzia was cool before she got all honorary klingon with worf

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>JJTrek
>anything other than the lowest possible tier
Your opinion is no longer relevant.

>Jadzia was cool
I strongly disagree, holy shit she was a bitch.