Everyone fa/tg/uy knows by heart to say that dwarf cuisine is "hearty" and elf cuisine is "delicate"...

Everyone fa/tg/uy knows by heart to say that dwarf cuisine is "hearty" and elf cuisine is "delicate", but what besides that? What can you say about the cuisine of common fantasy races? What dishes do they like? What seasonings do they use? What about gnomes or orcs, which nobody ever thinks about?

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>orcs

they're like barbarians, right? I'd expect lots of roast meat, fermented milk (i dont know if orcs have horses or cattle), simple foods, etc


gnomes probably just eat lots of pies, mushrooms, fruits, etc
just watch documtentarys on world food culture and comapare it to normal fantasy races

like this:
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Dwarf food:
Meat pie with standing crust. The butter, lard, and water used to make the crust is boiled, kneaded hard for half an hour, and left to stand for half a day before use. The meat is seasoned with salt, pepper, and maybe some garlic. Also mushrooms.
The pie is left to cool for another day and is eaten cold, but not before the dwarf in questions pours a healthy cup of gravy down the hole in the top to make use of the space created when the meat shrinks during cooking.

Elf food:
Chicken pot pie - the butter, shortening, and water used for the crust is kept as cold as possible. It is kneaded as little as possible and put into the oven cold, creating a delicate, fluffy crust. To enhance the flavor, they brush milk across the top and sprinkle (the elf equivalent to) Parmesan cheese.
The variety of vegetables, subtle herbs and spices, and carefully measured ratios of flour to broth to butter to milk creates a dish so simple but flavorful that they oftentimes don't even include the chicken.

Orc food:
Mongolian-style, broiled sheep head. Or that meal where you cut open the goat, pull out the innards, and shove a bunch of live coals in to cook it from the inside before sewing it back up.
They favor foods that are easy to prepare by throwing in a bunch of on-hand ingredients and which don't need to be watched all that close.
If they lived in the modern world, the crock pot would be their favorite cooking utensil.
No two dishes ever taste exactly the same, but there's a raw simplicity to it that makes you keep coming back.
They also invented barbecue sauce.

Gnomes and halflings steal all their food from Brian Jacques's Redwall feast descriptions. Cheeses and vegetable pies and wines and currents and sweets and tarts and teas and the occasional fish dish. They like lots o' food and tend to be very self sufficient.

Humans
You know that scene in Howl's Moving castle in which Howl makes the bacon, egg, and toast breakfast all in the same skillet and it makes you want to eat the screen?
Pretty much that.

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>fermented milk (i dont know if orcs have horses or cattle)

elf milk

This image makes me hungry.

Oh boy, time to post these again.

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>Soft cheeses in rations

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Elves:
>French cooking

Dwarves
>Nordic/Scottish cooking

Drow
>North Korean

Gnomes
>German

Orcs
>Raw. Orcs are animals

Half-orcs
>Ethiopian

Halfling
>English

Tiefling
>India

Dragonborn
>Italian

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>Drow
>North Korean
>Dragonborn
>Italian

Well. I'm not going to argue.

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You mean the thing user already posted?

Who actually looks at imgur links on Veeky Forums? This isn't Reddit. You want people to look at your images, post them.

>Imgur links
Nobody cares about those. This is an imageboard not a linkboard

But why? Very little of this makes sense based on the races' physiology and behavior. Just because they're steretypically depicted as having a certain accent and sometimes naming conventions doesn't make it right to completely subsume their food culture.

>Who actually looks at booru links on Veeky Forums? This isn't Reddit. You want people to look at your porn, post it
>Who actually looks at pastebin links on Veeky Forums? This isn't Reddit. You want people to look at your shit, post it
>Who actually looks at sauce links on Veeky Forums? This isn't Reddit. You want people to look at your sauce, post all of it and not just a link

Which one's that?

Boorus are collections of large amounts of images that can't be posted in any single thread.
Pastebin links are for posting extremely large amounts of information that you want to preserve for a rather long time. They're also only used for generals, in the most part.
Finally, source links are for finding the source of something, so you can look at other samples of its creator's work.

If you're going to post a link to a handful of images, just post the images rather than a sterile link. It'll engender more discussion.

Duergar.
>Limburger, whole beef kidney, ginger and turmeric roots, Enoki mushrooms, onion & mushroom gravy hand pies.

Most booru links are to a single image mate.

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I've always found it strange that DWARVES are known for their mead. Mead is made from wild honey and it's very sweet. It really seems to me like it would be an Elf thing.

Also, Pies especially hearty meat pies, should always be a Halfling thing.

>elf cuisine is "delicate"

A chunk of elf bread is enough to make you feel full for an entire day.

>elf snack bread
>meal, ready-for-elf

In my setting... (TM)

Dwarves dwell primarily on and in mountains surrounded by windswept steps, so their diets are primarily dominated by meat, animal fats, barly, robust tubers, garlic and mushrooms. The three pillar animals of the Dwarven domestic life is the Goat, whose milk and meat forms the basis of their diet, the Llama, which they train to guard their goats (this is a real thing look it up) and use their wool, and yaks which are used as beasts of burden, sources of linen, milk, fuel (yak shit), and food.

Small terraced farms of barley and tubers as well as garlic will be grown on mountain side as well as mushroom groves inside the holds. Dumplings filled with meat and other fillings are common, as are barley noodles, soups and stews made from a milk base, as well as beer made from fermented milk and barley.

Dwarfs eat primarily elves, elves eat primarily dwarfs. Both complement with radishes.

Elves on the other hand tend to live in coastal regions, so fish, crustaceans, and seaweed are common staples along with yams, taro, many types of fruit and rice grains

Huh, I didn't know that so many people eat dog turds.

This is an image board, not a link board.

Depends on Setting (tm)

Cuisine is 90% using whatever is on hand. That's why I get so triggered when people say things like "It's not [simple peasant dish] unless it contains [list of 15 very specific ingredients, 4 of which aren't even native to the area]. You think the average southern French farmer would give a shit if you used the wrong kind of beans in cassoulet? He'd just be happy there was food on the table.

If dwarves live under mountains with some surrounding farmland, they probably have a lot of root vegetables (although they can't be grown entirely underground as far as I know). Grains would be rye and barley. Lots of caves mean they'd have lots of room for storing food, but be very limited in where they can start fires. That means a lot of pickling and curing. Dry sausage and other charcuterie, aged cheeses, and the like. That means they'd also highly value spices (probably chillies too, if they know about them), and many would be able to afford exotic ones thanks to the mines. I'd wager their language would have a specific word for that dry, crumbly, chewy texture that hard cheese and dark rye bread have, which they'd greatly value. Meat would be chicken, goat, sheep, and pork from the farmland, and I'm pretty sure you could raise chickens underground provided you had feed.
The average dwarven miner's breakfast would be something like hard sheep or goat cheese, chicken sausage, barley bread, and a pickled egg washed down with ale. Their perfect meal would be a huge, piping hot bowl of mutton stew, heavy on onions, rosemary, and black pepper, with mead.

If your elves are the kind that live in the forest and eschew civilization and agriculture, their meals would be game meat seasoned with herbs and roasted over an open flame with fresh berries and wild greens, with everything ideally as fresh and ripe as possible. Berries don't contain much sugar, so unless other fruit grows in the forest their alcohol would be whatever the local humans make.

Really should add, to make this more useful to people's own settings, to think about what people have access to above all. Things you can easily grow lots of become staples. Things that are hard to get, but can still be had for the right price, become fancy.

I like the Warhammer depiction of Wood Elves. Mostly hunter gatherers... with the sole exception of wine. They like wine so much they adopted agriculture pretty much exclusively to keep vineyards. Everything else they hunt or gather, grapes they produce with great care and deliberation.

Aranean cuisine is predigested.

It bothers my autism that dwarfs can't feasibly exist ENTIRELY underground. One way or another your agriculture is going to involve sun.

>This faggot again

In a surprise twist, it turns out most vampires subsist on some combination of bananas and mosquitoes, the rest being blood libel

Vampire bats are the ones who by definition drink blood, you retard. bats=/=vampire bats.

I am so hungry right now. Fuck you all for dragging Veeky Forums in here.

That wasn't funny the last time you said it, and it's even less funny now.

>High elves
Probably mainly vegetable dishes, with meat typically served as a side or as a a mere component of the vegetable dish. I can't see them eating a lot of fruit.
>Wood elves
Whatever the hunt of the day is. Fruits are also probably heavily featured, but I doubt they would be used very creatively. Cooking probably wouldn't be to creative in general, with jam being the most complex thing at the table.
>Drow
Whatever they eat, it's probably gross.

Tiefling cuisine is "sumptuous".
Gnome cuisine is "nutty".

>I can't see them eating a lot of fruit.
Why? A plate full of thoughtfully arranged fruits is like their whole culture expressed in a dish.

Dwarves, in most settings, are usually 'new' to the outside world. Their entire culinary system would be based around what they could find underground.

There'd be quite a bit of meat and a LOT of insects. Bats, lizards, blind fish, spiders, centipedes, etc.

Mushrooms, mosses and various other lichens and stuff would probably have their uses.

I prefer to mumble something about magic or glowing crystals and have a weird but thriving underground ecosystem anyway, for dwarves and such to base their farming on.

The reason I think that is because I couldn't really picture high elves wanting especially sweet flavors. In my opinion, they would appreciate more mild and subtle tastes, like boiled poultry and green vegetables.
That's just me though, I can definitely see your argument for fruit.

>Dwarves
Heavy, savory dishes. Lots of lamb, goat, mushrooms, some potatoes and root vegetables, limited greens. Spices are mostly garlic and herbs Eat just about any part of the animal prepared right. Haggis, Pickled pigs' feet, Shepherd's pie, mashed potatoes, loaded potato skins.

Elves: Tend towards small portion of meat, most of which is wild game or domesticated equivalents like Elk, Deer/Venison, and Boar. Do a lot of work with baked goods and lighter sweets with numerious fruit-based dishes. Don't use a lot of spice but when they do it's a mix of mild herbs and exotic options. Tarts, quiche, croissants, etc. rather French. Wood or wild elves would deemphasize the haute cuisine.

Orcs: As barbarians they live a hunter-gatherer lifestyle with some limited animal husbandry. Meat, veggies, and dairy (if they're lactose tolerant) are all on the menu. Spices and preperation are ultra-basic but if they can find peppers they enjoy the shit out of it. Not a lot of grains in their diet at all. Jerky, stew, trail mix, etc.

Gnomes: Gonna guess as the spastic little shits they are, they probably like extreme flavors, with exactly what flavor depending on subculture. "Traditional" Gnomish cuisine would probably resemble Indian cuisine, with lots of hot and loud spices, including curry being a staple, but modern gnomish cuisine, that the city dwellers/tinker gnomes delight in, tends to go for heavily sweet and salty dishes. Your average gnomish inventor probably subsists on noodles with last week's stock (see: cup ramen), any sort of chocolate, and sweetened tonic water, sort of like your average neckbeard.

Halfling: TONS of veggies and tons of grain, with some meats too. If any culture serves up a towering stack of pancakes with a side of bacon and eggs, it's halflings, and they'll throw in a bowl of fruit and a salad too.

You see, I would argue that their refined palates would crave exquisite and intense flavors. Things that knock you on your ass with powerful flavors.

Its like the difference between high end michelin star cooking, and top tier hearty home cooking. Dwarven cooking is like going to your favorite greasy diner, or the best kept secret dive bar. That burger, those ribs, the pie? Each bite is packed with flavor that sticks to your ribs. You are warmed and filled with love. You can almost smell your gramma's perfume when the juice from that meat pie dribbles down your chin. You want to roll out the door when you are done, because you are so full that walking seems a chore.

Elves are your fine dining. It is all about the first impression. That single bite. Every sense needs to be on overdrive. The smell should make you want to faint. The plating is delicate and perfect. The texture should be just as central as the taste that is now exploding through your mouth. Even the sound of the crust breaking should be at exactly the right pitch. It all culminates in one intense moment.

Assuming that gnomes are Jews...

>A plate full of thoughtfully arranged fruits is like their whole culture expressed in a dish.

>dwarf
you gonna eat those coins?

Orcs are the height of simplicity. The best orcish cooks in my mind, would be those that have made their success when they chose their ingredients, not when they prepared them. Elevating simple dishes into something more than their sum. A ribeye can be a steak dinner, or life affirming. What matters is how well that simple cut is prepared, and how good that cut was to begin with.

Gnomes to me are molecular gastronomers. That big headed little shit is going to make a foam out of a owlbear's liver, and it is going to taste delicious. That warg chop was smoked with the bark from a dryad's supple thighs, and it was plated around a thousand ice pink roses that were miniaturized into the size of a grain of rice each. Did you know that the digestive system of the common gelatinous cube makes a great meat tenderizer? Did you know that you can tenderize your meat until it is nearly liquid, freeze dried in a white dragon's pancreas, and then crumbled over a delightfully simple corn muffin? That is gnomish cooking.

The thing about jewish cuisine is there's no defined set of food. Jewish cuisine has always been just their own version of whatever region that group of jews are living in. Hence why Spanish Jews are big on fish meals and Israeli Jews eat what is basically middle eastern food (with slight differences, Arab use fava beans for falafels while Israel uses chick peas)

>Arab use fava beans for falafels while Israel uses chick peas
I'm sure both sides would go to war over it.

They practically have in the past, on the grounds of "there's only one way to make a falafel"

my sides

Now I'm reminded of the "do you eat hot sauce or yogurt on kebab" argument from Gundam SEED

Yogurt for lamb kebab, hot sauce for beef kebab, peanut-based sauce for chicken kebab
I thought this was common knowledge.

In my setting they live off of underground vent worms in volcanos, and their "beer" is actually to keep them from being poisoned by the acid's and metals in their food. Dwarves don't live on the surface at all, and have tremendous difficulty digesting surface food. They also are long lived and few because that is the best way to make due with a diet of slowly unpunctuated worm growth.

To add more to the dwarf cuisine, the Dwarves book series mentions food a decent amount as the story is about a dwarf raised among humans returns to his people. They mention a very pungent cheese, mushrooms and in one city, Giant beetles as the protein. This are off the top of my head so going back specifically to look for the food could reveal more, but the Dwarves in that world definitely seem to be able to get along underground exclusively.

I think part of the problem is we almost forget it's a fantasy world where there can be more 'exotic' food sources as the normal easy to get staples.

Yeah. A lot of these posts are assuming agriculture that implies a basically human lifestyle. First you have to determine where elves dwarves etc get their food, and THEN you work from there.

And btw dwarves buy all their food from humans seems totally stupid to me. I know Tolkien did it too.

For me, it goes like this: dwarves use terraces for growing crops at high altitude, and isolated, boxed in valleys already used for forestry but seconded for wild herbs and meat (goats, mostly, and left to roam free until hunted). Food is stored in barred caves above the snow line.

So for them, milk and dairy are seasonal foods (made from goats). Potatoes are common, including flakes and used to make bread. Vegetables too, especially root vegetables and winter squashes. Summer vegetables are often pickled; dwarves obsess about having adequate food stockpiles. The big protein is goat, but mutton and venison and pork are common too. Grains are there but not the caloric staple that they are for humans. Mushrooms are a delicacy because the wood from forestry is at a premium and growing it in dwarf manure is a recipe for disease. Compost is recycled back into the terraces and forest valleys. Dwarf food is heavy and eaten communally by the clan: huge cauldrons of stew, big roast animals on the spit, they're signs of wealth and unity. "Family style", humans call it, but dwarves just see that as normal.

As with humans, where grain is the main staple but which grain and how it's prepared varies by region and culture, dwarves have a lot of leeway to play with this formula.

Similar to my setting. I love your ideas user

>elf milk

Sounds legit, gotta do something with all the stuff that leaks out of a properly used elf.

Elves use permaculture food forests. They prefer simple minimalist cookery. Nuts take the place of grains, and fruits are common, as are herbier forest vegetables. Unlike humans and dwarves, elves aren't as worried about perishability. Something is always in season, even in winter. Sauces, chutneys, and jams are common, though, to take up the excess harvest. Like dwarves, elves mostly hunt their game, but the meat is more of a side dish than a centerpiece. Some elvish communities are vegetarian. They prefer spiced wildberry wines, which to other palates come off as sweet and delicate rather than strong. Some aged wines are are very complex, and elves have techniques for small-scale distillation of brandy. Elves make nut loafs and nut flour bread, usually sweetened with honey and dried fruit, for travel rations. They're excellent if somewhat minimalist cooks, but a typical elven meal is consumed right off the tree. Elves grab a bite here and there all day, rather than sitting down to a formal eating time. The exceptions are when traveling or on feast days.

Sea elves tend to favor fish prepared as what we would call sushi, alongside sea vegetables and local fruits/vegetables from the coast.

"The Codex Astartes is a set of rules. They guide us. Shape us as Ultramarines. Teach us how to hold duty and honor sacred above all. But how we live with those rules is the true test of a Space Marine."

>Sea elves
It's always a shame so little thought is given to the diets of aquatic humanoids. Yeah, no shit, they'd eat a ton of fish and seaweed. But how would they prepare the food, given they can't use fire, one of the utmost essentials of almost every form of cuisine would they really just eat everything raw?

Which fantasy creatures would be food staples?

Okja

Giants

Shmoo

Honey doesn't spoil as long as you seal it. We've found honey in Egyptian tombs that was still edible.

Combine that with a lack of large swaths of farmland, and mead is one of your best options.

Strikes me that the climate zone, available ingredients etc. would generally be more important than the race, considering how limited the supply of ingredients really is, and how typically climate zones play a huge role in whether food is spicy or hearty.

What if they only eat the mosquitoes after the mosquitoes fill up on blood? Like, a vampire could go from straight from the tap on somebody, but it would be a normal human like eating a raw potato.

Thermal vents

While there were first posted here as rations, I believe they are actually tavern meals. IT would explain some of the questionable food choices, as well as the money.

I wish some brilliant chefanon with too much time on their hands would make two such lists for each race - one for a "ration", or basic food like that, and one with "gourmet" food or "food they would most enjoy to be served if they could have anything from their cuisine".

Ok, but how do you get the honey? It takes a lot to make mead

Focusing more on usual habitat, less on reinforcing the usual tree-French and green-Mongol ideas:

Elvish cuisine is unexpectedly primitive and rough-and-ready. When every man, woman, and elfling lives in an impossibly lush garden, yet waste is an affront to nature, elf meals are likely to resemble the best human peasant food you've ever had: someone centuries older than your grandmother, with access to an herb and spice variety that would make Earth's Punjab blush, doing his best to make every part of a garden vegetable shine using only Prestidigitation and the odd piece of windfall wood as fuel.
The flipside is that Elvish prepared foods are prepared for serious emergencies only. Humans tell tales of how incredibly nourishing lembas bread is; what humans don't know is that it uses a lesser version of the magic woven into a bag of holding to instead hold a pound of vegetable shortening-acorn flour roux in each slice.
TYPICAL ELF MEAL: Vichyssoise, stir-fried leek greens with garlic and pepper, dal with acorn flatbread. Served with rainwater garnished with mint.

Dwarves are a culture of good wine and rice wine - grapes and rice growing better on terraced hills than barley, and grape wine aging far better than ale - and excellent "sea"food. Do not ask your dwarf chef why the delicate bisque contains almost entirely leg meat and no claw meat. It's safer for your SAN if you assume than the claws are reserved for elites.
Red meat, conversely, is almost entirely unheard of, with mushrooms forming the bulk of protein as the few goats are bred for cheesemaking.
TYPICAL DWARF MEAL: Cave centipede and mushroom doria, Iceland moss and fern salad with wine vinaigrette, brandy digestif. Served with sake or white wine.

>Ok, but how do you get the honey?
Dwarves would probably just buy it from elves and humans.

...Which would be extremely expensive in the amounts they'd need...

PLUMP

HELMETS


on a more serious note, i've always imagined dwarves using a wide variety of fungi, cultivated inside old mines shafts and the like, coupled with eidable moss and lichens. i would guess cattle like yaks would be vital, as source of dairy, cheese and regular meat. they would also be used for labour, and then the tough meat would still be taken care of in the form of long-stews and ground into sausages. a special strain of barley fit for growing in mountainous regions would be the staple cereal. chickens and goats would also be common, as would wild produce and game, limited by where the dwarves are located.

a common dwarven meal would be polypore and work ox stewed in cream and ale, with a loaf of barely bread on the side to dip.

And? They're dwarves. They have hoards of gold large enough to attract dragons.

>Elvish cuisine is unexpectedly primitive and rough-and-ready.
>with access to an herb and spice variety that would make Earth's Punjab blush
Wut
>rice growing better on terraced hills than barley
Wut

You're just changing things for the sake of changing things without having much understanding what you're changing
And every single dwarf, from the king to the lowliest miner, has equal access to that hoard? Not to say they can't but you're making a lot of assumptions here and totally ignoring how cuisine normally develops

And you're assuming that it's the lowliest of dwarves doing the brewing for themselves, and not for their lord or a trade baron or something, who has the funds.

Then how do the lowliest of dwarves get their mead? Are you saying the lords selling it back to them with another markup on top of everything somehow makes it more accessible to average dwarf?

Most humans' first exposure to orc cuisine was deeply interwoven with their first exposure to orcs - the war parties of heavy infantry who swept in from the west were almost bereft of pack animals of any sort, and relied on carrying small amounts of potent spices to make any sort of booty palatable. As they swept over rich farmlands, they were quick to adopt a rolling-forage strategy of keeping entire herds on the march, slaughtering the increasingly-gamy meat as needed; thus the raiding orc's cuisine, and later the specialty of those who stayed behind after the war, is heavy on quick barbecue and intense curries, served alongside farmer's cheese with heavily-spiced whatever-green and whatever-legume pastes.
TYPICAL "ORCISH-RESTAURANT" MEAL: Bowl of goat curry, plank-baked quick flatbread, sag paneer, served and balanced with kumis.

You're mad that I'm posting what they could actually grow where they live in a typical setting, rather than excuses to project your RL stereotypes.

You do know how production and economics works right? Yes mead, since it's dependent on an import, would be expensive to produce and even more so to acquire, but to assume that a lowly dwarf tradesman or even serf would never touch a bottle of it is silly. Almost as silly as assuming that every dwarf is an alcoholic.

>You're mad that I'm posting what they could actually grow where they live in a typical setting
>Black pepper in a temperate forest
Do you know anything about agriculture? Or what "rough and ready" means?
No one is arguing that it's literally impossible for there to be a single bottle in the entire mountain. I'm saying the idea that it's their staple alcoholic beverage doesn't hold up to scrutiny

>I'm saying the idea that it's their staple alcoholic beverage doesn't hold up to scrutiny
Maybe it is, and they just don't drink as much as we stereotype them to.

You should go read up on ancient Greece and the role they played in the early Bronze Age.

>doesn't hold up to scrutiny
You do know what caused the Opium Wars, right? Or why the British took India?