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Talk about literally anything besides Mage. How about Genius? Or Changling? Or fucking Hunter? IS anyone even IN any campaigns right now, old world or new?

The smell they make after they have been vaporized by my Schwifty ray gun

Fuck off.

Reasking from last thread, what is the worst Lodge in Forsaken?

Fine I kind of want to play in a friends Beast game. Yes I know beast is shit but my friend is an excellent ST and if anyone can make Beast cool and fun it will be him. Anyway I like this picture for my Beast but have zero clue what family or atavisms or even hunger for it.

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>What's the best thing about Mage?

The new Awakening smell, of course.

I am trying to assemble a VtR1e oneshot for my friend's housewarming party.
I am pregenning characters for them to choose from, would I best served using the core book, or are there example pcs I can use for guidance?

I really don't know much about Beast, tell me more about families and atavisms and I'll pitch you some ideas. And tell me more about your RP idea.

Well that's a Makara if I ever saw one.A solid deep sea baseline.
Can't help much past that.

>says he's posting genius art
>is really posting golden age sci-fi art

buddy, you're lame

In my experience pregens work best if they're done by template rather then exact character, so the players don't have to worry about getting it right.

For instance, make a Celerity focused vampire college girl and just label her "College Girl" with maybe an example name if the person wanting to play as her can't think of anything. And print at least 2 copies of each, so if two of your players go "Oh hey I want to be that person", they both can be speed-freak college girls.

And from there just think of some good stereotypes for whatever the theme of your one shot is. If you're familiar enough with the mechanics, I'd just make your own sheets as well, though I'm sure some example PCs exist somewhere if needed.

So, aimed spells essentially look like Harry Potter spells, right?

What's the practical difference between a technocrat mage (or son of ether) and a genius?

Genius don't use magic. Technocrats do.

So apparently there's a single massive faggot responsible for the state of this place.

Do we hire the mods for some mercenary work?

Yep except for things like fire ball, lightning etc.

One belongs in this thread, the other doesn't.

I'm just hunting for ideas.
Some people are familiar with gaming, some wth WoD in particular. My plan was to make characters with a wide range of personality archetypes, some negative, some positive, 15 in all, with the caveat that it is a blind pick up, and you play what you choose, period, even if it's something "bad", because no one sees themselves as the bad guy. I want people to roleplay the pc even in ways they thought they couldn't, and plan such variety, except no muslims.
Because I am a muslim, and I need less cringy, eye rolling nonsense in my life, not more, and don't want people ragging on me for HURR SELF INSERT.

>The new Awakening smell, of course.

And what does a new Awakening smell like?

Would you rather be werewolf (furry faggot) or vampire (gay faggot)? (oWoD or nWod).

If you don't choose either you get stuck as a beast.

This place used to have 100+ posters

Let that sink in

>And what does a new Awakening smell like?

It smells like supremacy, of course.

Are you or have you known any terrorists and if you don't openly support terrorist do you secretly turn a blind eye to their actions?

Why, the appropriate astrological sign of course.
Unsurprisingly, most smell like Cancer.

Trying way to hard with that bait, guy.

Yeah oWod really needs their own thread especially the shit show that is modern ascension

Where's the changeling (otherkin faggot) option?

Can we just give Mage their own wank thread?

Wrong kind of muslim, fag-, er, user.

So I need some ideas for weird ncps and phenomenons to populate mid-west and north for my campaign. Think fargo+carnivale+twin peaks+ lost highway

Anyone got something interesting

There are different kinds of muslims? So you don't support the truck of peace? If so that is good.

Mages, mages and more mages.

Also mages.

>Can we just give Mage their own wank thread?

Mage fans would wither without the woeful tears of the fans of other splats.

All we need is some new *good* material books from WW, and a lot of the mage trolling would disappear.

As long as we have few releases, with quality like Beast or the dreadful Requiem supplements, the void will be filled with crap.

Most people left when 5e came out. It's so much better than the Story Teller system it's funny.

I'm tired of seeing this suggestion. Yeah, go ahead and try. See what happens. It's definitely a foolproof idea that has never been attempted before, and definitely will not backfire horribly. What an elegantly simple solution. Undoubtedly you, post #55381301, will be hailed as the brilliant user that saved the general.

What are you waiting for?

Probably a good point there. I really doubt they could sustain a general anyway, would get boring pretty fast.

You keep saying this shit but provide no proof to back up your nonsensical mage fueled claims

>Magefags would wither without the woeful tears of the other splatfags
ftfy.

Nah it doesn't deserve it. I just got temp banned, assuredly for posting Genius in the Magewank thread. I can only assume one of the janitors is a Magefag and has a vested interest in the thread remaining shit.

Though I suppose there is some cruel irony in Magefaggotry being held up by an incorporeal entity spewing shit.

I already know it wouldn't work, but an user can dream.
Why are you so angry about it?

You're right, I've got nothing. Do it. Make that thread, buddy.

Yes. One of the Mods is an actual Exarch.

>Why are you so angry about it?
Tired and annoyed.

Nah, janitor. Given the tempban didn't go through as a full ban I have to assume the Mods themselves are Oracles.

Have they tried making it so that the threads always were, and will forever be less shitty?
Ah right, Pax.

Because he is a shitposting magefag. How have you not realized such a simple truth?

>posts off-topic content
>gets banned
>"surely i am not blame here"

Hey, fair enough. It seems this entire week has been draining, mentally and emotionally.

Low Ranking Technocrat: Believes his power comes from sufficiently advanced technology. It is actually him enforcing his will on a subjective reality.

High Ranking Technocrat: Believes his power comes from using technology to enforce his will on a subjective reality, which he models scientifically.

Son of Ether: Same as the high-ranking Technocrat, except he isn't ideologically committed to the idea of universal laws, believes in local reality.

Genius: Lunatic possessed by alien math that makes him believe incorrect things about the objective world he lives in, which then serve as theories to build devices that then work because of alien math spirits.

In short, the difference is the oWoD Mage is sane and the Genius isn't.

Fansplats aren't off-topic content, you insufferable cockmuncher.

I know Dave finds Mage Supremacy boring

But, do you ever wonder what he thinks of all these Magefags?

Isn't that what beast is?

>There are different kinds of muslims?
Amazingly enough, yes.
On point, this kind of foolishness is what I'm avoiding.
I thought Genius was WoD homebrew.
You can't about homebrew in this thread? What about other WW/OP games?
>I know Dave finds Mage Supremacy boring
Then why does he encourage it?

Yes they are, you horrid assdevourer

And yet I'm still posting them. Woo. Because it turns out you're allowed to talk about homebrew on Veeky Forums.

The devs would do well not to give a shit over this place

If it's not a game (or directly related to one) for either of the settings published by WW or OPP, it's off-topic.

Assdevourers and cockmunchers.

is that something from the abyss?

>Then why does he encourage it?
He doesn't? He jokes about it, sure, but that's about it.

Constantly, these days. I feel like he's a regretful God, looking down on a creation that in itself is fine, but attracts the worst of the worst. I'm probably projecting that on him, though.
>Insufferable mages is a phenomena local to the Veeky Forums general alone.
Yeah, okay buddy.

If they weren't already, they are now!

He consistently makes rules supporting it in the face of all challenges, and lore that buttresses it.
>no homebrew on Veeky Forums
Fuck, what's happened to this place?

Veeky Forums has fallen... they are coming!

>But, do you ever wonder what he thinks of all these Magefags?

He appreciates anyone who actually buys Mage products so he can earn a few extra dollars and encourage OPP/WW to release more books.

>basic economics

Give an example mudslime. And yes shit tier homebrew based on something that isn't in Wod/CofD doesn't deserve to be here.

>He consistently makes rules supporting it in the face of all challenges, and lore that buttresses it.
Mage Supremacy, such as it actually is, is more of a by product and not a priority. Sure, Mages are strong, but it doesn't really matter much when these games aren't meant for crossover play and Mages are their own main antagonists.

You don't deserve to be here.

Can his example be gesturing wildly to Veeky Forums as it has been for years?

>>no homebrew on Veeky Forums
Who said that? You can make your own thread for it, but don't bring it to the thread where it doesn't actually belong. This thread is for the WoD and CofD games, which fansplats are not.

>when these games aren't meant for crossover play
>makes crossover books
>using ipso facto logic to justify mages being powerful
It's like listening to 3.pf fans talk about how magic should be the best because it should be, when it need not, save for dev intent.

Yes they are. Anything related to WoD/CofD is allowed in the general, including homebrew, house rules, individual campaigns, and things you don't like.

Best to start with Atavisms, work backwards to Family.
* Scale unclear, but if supposed to be large, Looming Presence (Anakim).
* Has skin armor, so Unbreakable (Namtaru).
* With those jaws and claws, need damage.
- Basilisk's Touch (Namtaru) if poisonous
- Cyclopean Strength (Anakim) if really strong (does seem to have one eye)
- Limb From Limb (Eshmaki) if good at severing (closest match?)
* Assuming not aquatic — body not optimal in terms of swimming surfaces. Between that and not charismatic, not Makara.
* No sign of Ugallu flight either, and Ugallu senses would use up crucial slots at this stage.

Essentials: this is a tough monster that can shred people. Unbreakable and Limb From Limb. Family will help you get more atavisms with XP:
* Namtaru advancement: Shadowed Soul for darksight (pair with a dark Lair), Basilisk's Touch for poison.
* Eshmaki advancement: Dragonfire (pair with a fiery Lair), From the Shadows (chameleon effect), Relentless Hunter for added toughness.

Non-affinity atavisms you might get with XP later:
- Makara for aquatic, Monster From the Deep, Heart of the Ocean, suitable Lair. Depends on if you want to be aquatic. Tentacles look more like decorative icky tentacles than functional grabby tentacles (length, placement).
- Needs Must (Ugallu) is useful for every beast. Eye of Heaven (Ugallu) may be good too.

When in doubt, Hunger for Prey. The most intuitive Hunger, just like Frankensteins are the most intuitive Prometheans.

Lair: can add dark, fire or water when you get those atavisms. I like Thunderous/Sealed Exits because you can invoke it on any loud noise and it stops escapes. With Unbreakable, consider Razored.

Nightmares: Gonna help you hunt. Fear Is Contagious (multiple targets) or You Can't Wake Up (additional uses on same target), and depending on which is highest:
- Presence: You Deserve This
- Manipulation: Everything You Do Is Worthless
- Wits: You Cannot Run
- Intelligence: All Your Teeth Are Falling Out

We're already nearing 100 posts. What the fuck are you people doing. The thread was literally made within the hour.

Every other general has homebrew in it, so long as it is based on the existing system and is compatible.
You lot are just being fucktards. Probably the same one.

No, you fucklord. This is the place to discuss OPP/WW products, of which Genius and other fansplats don't quality.

Eat a cock.

Thanks a lot user. This is really helpful.

The crossover books are supplements. Optional things. It's not like DnD where playing mixed parties is the norm. In my experience the crossover books aren't even used for crossover games anyway, and most people just pick one of the splats.

I also didn't justify Mages being powerful, more like saying that Mage Supremacy doesn't even exist in their own game unless you focus the stories on weaker members of other splats. For some reason.

Better not post any personal, non-canon characters or story lines, I guess. God forbid someone homebrews a merit or power!

>muh purity
Let me guess, you crusaded against quests and /wst/ and hate Storytime threads.

I'm guessing a fuckord is a ruler over assdevourers and cockmunchers.

Damn right.

You can also leave.

If it's for the actual games, it's fine. Entirely made up games aren't. Nice false equivalency.

Yeah, fansplat posters need to be banned. They don't even belong here.

You all sound sexually frustrated.

What do you mean? I'm relieving myself right now.

I understand the direction you are going with this, but I disagree on the Family.
It looks to be based on a Dragonfish, Makara makes sense from that
The rest is fantastic.

Thinking about Behold My True Form for a nightmare as well. Also I think the beast looks some what nocturnal so maybe having dim lights as an easily accessible lair trait. But I also like the major trait but more of a blue or purplish colored fire. Lots to think about. Also if I am reading correctly if you want to manifest a major lair trait into the real world but don't have a good source you can use minor lair traits like dim lighting or loud sounds in order to manifest your lair with the major traits?

Most accurate post in the past 5 threads.
Print it out, sign it, frame it, put it on the wall.

It would make a decent banner.

Magefags are wizards for a reason

Small price to pay for infinite power

>lost virginity at 16
>not well adjusted at all
>she didn't cum
Gonna have to call bullshit on this chart, f a m.

Good second opinion, how about a Makara version?

Affinity:
* Alien Allure and Siren's Treacherous Song are out, this doesn't look like a Social Makara.
* Heart of the Ocean pairs with an underwater Lair, also good for sensing prey. If you take this, take a corresponding Lair trait.
* Monster From the Deep is an attack power which can also target groups. This would focus on tail/tentacle attacks. If you take this, take Fear Is Contagious to help hunt groups.

Non-Affinity:
* Unbreakable is still good to represent the scaly carapace.
* Basilisk's Touch/Cyclopean Strength/Limb From Limb are still useful attacks, but you probably want Monster From the Deep or Heart of the Ocean instead.
* Looming Presence can still represent large size if appropriate.

Lair: if you take Heart of the Ocean, take Flooded. Consider Currents, Sealed Exits, Cramped (especially with Monster From the Deep, to bunch targets up), and Razored (with Unbreakable). Obviously we're talking about an underwater cavern type place that can be invoked from a swimming pool or body of water generally, and has either dangerous undertow, no normal way out, tight passages, or sharp rocks.

The Makara birthright seems better for this than the Eshmaki or Namtaru ones. A Makara hunting Prey might get more out of victims who eat a lot of seafood, because that makes them part of his ecosystem and he's a top predator in it. The surprising jackpot: people who take fish oil supplements.

Pleased to be of service. I believe Beast is a salvageable game for groups that throw away "lessons" and embrace beasts as villain protagonists.

Behold My True Form is an alternative to physical attacks, and from the look of it, this broseph is a physical attack specialist.

Yes, you can use minor traits to manifest major traits, it's a key Lair strategy. Dim light and darkness are easy to get, but the easiest is Thunderous: any loud noise will do, even one you make.

This is looking great! Beast had a lot of potential, glad to see someone doing something positive with it.

only positive thing you can do with beast is wipe your ass with it.

You will still catch aids from it though

I don't know Beast, but one of the luring abilities might be appropriate to represent the bioluminescence it uses to lure prey?

There should be a suitable atavism for that, but there isn't. The Makara ones are more social and Siren's Song is specifically voice. A curiousity nightmare or will-o-wisp atavaism would be a welcome addition.

Ah, that's a shame, Alien Allure sounded like it had potential. Sorry for the misinformed thought!