Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1744: Exalted Charms Aren't Magic Though Edition

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Your waifus a shit

What is your opinions on husbandos?

How about they're whatever people think they are and we don't get into stupid arguments because this is a Single Player Game.

Sometimes the shitposter makes the thread, ironically, and he always puts in a subject meant to start fights.

Is anyone else's drive missing folders?

Also if they're ki, that's stupid because implies the entire world is made of ki and ki is something that comes from the soul.

>Exalted Charms Aren't Magic Though
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
But they totally are tho'!!!!

Creation is made from the souls of some of the Primordials. Specifically, Cytherea and Gaia. It's not connected to them like their own personal world-bodies are, but they used themselves as the raw material.

That said, Exalted doesn't actually have any ki/magic distinction. It's all just Essence, no matter how you use it. Charms are explicitly referred to as magic, even the Martial Arts charms that are more like ki techniques. Not everything has to fit into your categories, man, Exalted can do its own thing with its own mystical energies.

So minor spoiler for Death of the Outsider: The Outsider's Mark is actually his name, spelled out in the symbol-language of the civilization that created him.

Makes me wonder how that would interact with the Jumper's Mark that you can get for not spending any runes in the Dishonored 1 jump. I guess it would say your name, then?

Jumpers! If you were a video game boss, what would your boss theme be?

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They are magic. That's not at all debatable. What they're not necessarily is spells, depending on your interpretation.

>Also if they're ki, that's stupid because implies the entire world is made of ki and ki is something that comes from the soul.
No it doesn't. Ki is everywhere, and in all things. It's the life-breath of reality, flowing throughout the cosmos. It's not something distinct from magic, either, that's only in modern stories to distinguish Asian mysticism from Western magic, the classic stories have people doing magic fueled by ki all the time.

Reposting the question I messed up on posting at the end of thread.

Wasnt there a perk that gave you perfect fluency in any language you know?

I offer riskey notporn as payment.

Tell me of your waifus.

What "ki" is and where it comes from is extremely variable depending on the setting.

>implies the entire world is made of ki
So? Seems pretty silly to say metaphysics don't work the way they do just because you think it's "stupid". Especially when discussing a setting where everything is made up of tiny spirits and the laws of nature only exist because some junkies wanted a place to hide from some chaos rain.

I dont have any, I have a daughteru who is probably stronger than me in a straight fight,

A meido who is better with a spear than most heros in fate,

And a wand.

I dont need waifus. Waifus only make things difficult.

Definitely not the used goods in your pic.

It was in the Heros Jump by Baramasta

Anna

Listen here nigger

Actual things:
It says by purchasing a digivice you get a Partner Digimon under both digivices. Should I be assuming that's one digimon per any amount of digivice unless you take the Twin Digimon perk or did I fuck up?

Since we get custom crests, and the crests and digimentals sync up for the most part, why not a matching digimental option?

If we buy both digivices can we have one transform into the other like what happened with TK's, Kari's, and Ken's?

For the last one I mean, can it happen around the same time and not at the start of the jump?

Charms differ from the spells invoked through various practices of magic (sorcery, necromancy, or mortal thaumaturgy) in that spells are more exacting and are focused through sheer will alone, whereas Charms are an extension of the character's own inherent traits. Additionally, each type of Exalt or spirit can only learn Charms from the pool of Charms available to their own type (Solars, Lunars, etc), whereas access to sorcery or necromancy spells is only limited by the individual character's access to that circle of spells. Thus, a Solar cannot normally learn Lunar Charms (or vice versa), but all characters who have access to First Circle Sorcery can theoretically learn from the same pool of sorcery spells.

So there is a distinct difference in the two sets of abilities.

So do we have any items/perks that merge items and/or weapons perfectly? By that I mean something that gives all the powers and does not merge the forms together, for example say if you have a sword and a staff it wouldn't merge them into a halberd or spear.

Does anyone know if Gratuitous Cartoon Physics from the Smash Bros jump is toggleable?

On the same note does anyone know what the drop in option for that jump is

Mine likes gardening, reading in the shade, fighting, baking, and playing fun games like genocide.

Though the last one isn't something she gets to indulge in... much.

In setting there are three types of what we could call 'magic' : Sorcery, charms and thaumaturgy. Each are different, but we can readily classify them all as 'magic'.
As such any perks which effect 'magic' should potentially affect all three.

There's an import for that in Bayonetta.

>inb4 someone says "invalid jump" or similar

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>riskey
I believe you meant 'risque'.
Anyway, Tamaraneans can instantly learn the languages of people they kiss, and I'm pretty sure Heroes has some sort of Omnilingual perk, which sort of bypasses the need to learn languages in the first place.
I've never heard of a perk that let's you jump from intermediate, passable knowledge of a language to full-blown native speaker language professor.
There's plenty of intelligence and language learning perks in a bunch of jumps, so you could probably learn languages pretty fast without that perk.
Don't have any. What I do have is brief dalliances throughout my travels, perfect memory, and technopathy perks to offload my experiences into an easily transferable digital format.
I think there's a weapon enchantment in the King Arthur jump that let's your weapon absorb other weapons. It's pretty ambivalent on how exactly it works, IIRC.

INVALID JUMP
>Not really though, just proving you right, and this comment does not actually represent my opinion

Maybe the option for Sacred Treasure from Seven Deadily Sins that gives mutliple forms and imports?

About the closest thing my current Jumper has to a waifu at the moment is pic related, but that's still a work in progress. Mikotsu has made a lot of progress, dealing with many of the problems that weighed her down and hurt her. She even made peace with her sister. But even now, she's still dealing with a lifetime of neglect plus being imprisoned for so long as an undead in a hellish prison. Hell, she only recently regained her original, pure form while saving Jumper from the Light of Destruction! It will happen eventually, but not until she's ready. Besides, Jumper's own mind got fucked with by the Light of Destruction before she saved him, so he's not exactly in a good spot either.

Actually all three of those things are various levels of Reality Warping friendo, everything in Creation is just experssing itself through Reality Warping within 'Rules' set by the Shinma. Just because White Wolf is full of hacks doesn't mean we have to be hacks too.

Does Homura Akemi count as underaged?

Doesn't matter what you classify it as. What a setting classifies something as counts, otherwise you could go "magic is a systematized tool people use to affect the world around them, therefore it's technology and technology-enhancing perks should apply". However, you are right, though for the wrong reason. Charms are referred to as magic by Exalted. Magic-boosting perks should apply to them. Spell-boosting perks shouldn't, but those are rarer than general all-magic perks, so it's not much of an issue. The only one I can think of off the top of my head that's specifically spells is Infinity from Seven Deadly Sins, and Val herself has said that she's fine with people applying that to charms.

Yes. She's clearly not emotionally matured at all no matter how much subjective time she's spent looping, and is therefore a child both in body and in mind.

All the better. Now we can stop talking about this obvious bait and move on to something actually interesting.

Anyone got a build for Coiling Dragon Part 1 yet?

Medea is best girl.
Every genuine smile makes me nearly have a heart attack

Wait what counts as emotionally mature?

>White Wolf is a bunch of Westerners who used the word magic a few times where they should have beeen using eastern terms like Breath/Essence/Life-Force/etc.
>White Wolf a Hacks!

She's kind of like an inverse Superboy in that sense. Isn't she?

The reason I ask is because Homura is best classified as Traumatized and shell shocked but the same can happen to adults as well

user probably considers most twenty-sometimes and many people older to be children by his definition.

>Valeria
Who has not written a single White Wolf (In General)/Exalted (In particular) Jump and shouldn't have a horse in this conversation. That's kind of a presumtion when all the people who HAVE written them have fairly agreed that it's Life-Force/Ki/Reality Warping outright in some cases.

Things get real confusing morally when immortality and time travel is involved

>Traumatized and shell shocked
Regardless of age, you really shouldn't try to romance people when what they really need is psychological suport/therapy/a shoulder to cry on (without an ulterior motive)

Despite having all female Companions, none of them really fall into that category. Katia and I are really more of old adventuring buddies at this point. Poppy is really a rival in the heroism, except we get along really well so I'm not quite sure what to call that. And Tristiana is more of a tag along. She's always hunting for the next big battle or grand adventure. I'm mainly a means to that end.

>pic
I hope that's not shark fin soup...

Never said I would romance her out of the gate. Geez, therapy first then friendship than romance

>implying

Val's the thread authority. Those shittier jumpmakers don't have half the authority they think they do to rule otherwise. if Infinity works on Charms, then Charms are magic and are affected by magic-boosters and similar perks.

End of discussion.

Besides Pokémon Trainer, BTAS, & Fable which jump offers Eidetic Memory?

Easy solution. Get telepathy and retrain yourself to judge a person's maturity based not on arbitrary assumptions about age and supposed life experience, but instead through seeing how developed their minds are, effectively seeing how mature they are but /seeing/ how mature they are rather than using the intermediatries we have to in RL due to a lack of alternative!

Better, just remember though that using therapy sessions to lay the groundwork for future waifu'ing is a bad thing to do and you'll be fine.
You may want to dye your hair pink.

SCP has one, as I recall. Not sure it's a place I'd go just for that, though.

Considering it's a noodle shop...

>Better, just remember though that using therapy sessions to lay the groundwork for future waifu'ing is a bad thing to do and you'll be fine.

Possible future waifuing. I am fine with her having a emotionally stable relationship with Madoka.

>Val's the thread authority on her own jumps
FTFY
And yes she is. If she says a feature of her jump works a certain way or combos a certain way, then it does. Anyone who doesn't like it is free to houserule differently just keep it to yourself if you do, plz.
The only time Val overstepped the mark is when she declared after making the Street Fighter jump that a part of the Asura's Wrath jump which she didn't make was no longer valid (the whole staying in the setting between the end of Asura's Wrath and the start of Street Fighter where you'd jump it as normal). Considering how much she does for this thread, I think we can forgive one tiny misstep, can't we?

Jesus, you people are fucking pathetic.

And I'm sure you aren't, after all no pathetic person would make such a pointless derogatory post, right? /s

>pathetic.
~triggered!!!~
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

Seriously, do better than this. I need something substantial to make fun of.

You faggots are literally just playing semantics games. You have no real argument.

And you're implying Muyo had the right to infringe on another jump he had no plans to make. Val was more than in her right to tell that non-canon jump to go fuck itself.

Fate/kaleid have perk like that in drop it perk tree.

Or we could just ask Wukong if charms are magic and if magic boosting charms work with them.

Relavent Jumpmaker>other Jumpmaker

Should be how it works. Vals opinion is valid until proven false by the original creator

Ah I see you're a shitposter and hiding behind Valeria's 'authority', which only extends to her own Jumps as she is not the maker of the other Jumps in question, nah that's not legit at all. 'Thread authority' dude the shitposter(s), have been badgering Valeria so implying a Thread Consensus when most of us can't agree on the color of blue without a four page debate, as said she's the authority on her own jumps.
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She's overstepped with Asura's Wrath and then she overstepped with Exalted, this time by making a setting wide decision on a setting she only knew in passing and got descriptions from anons who wanted to push for a particular end goal.
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Muyo planned to make the Street Fighter Jump before they got ran off user.

>Should be how it works.

Opinions are worth only two pennies, user.

>implying
>infringe
>non-canon jump
You must be shitposting. You cannot be this dumb without trying to get a raise out of someone. I refuse to belive that you are legit this retarded.

Didn't say I disagree, but that comment says more about you than that 'semantics game' says about them.

That's fair. Has Wukong been around recently?

Are you implying a jumpmaker can't make statemtns of their own jumps with authority? That their opinion over their own jumps has less weight that a faggot user like you?

Fairy's Mind from Hyperdimension Neptunia

Death of the Author is a thing, Timmy.

>You must be shitposting.
Yes. Yes he is.
Finally one of your retards have realised the truth.
Now that you have, kindly stop feeding the shitposter.

>original creator
Wukong wasn't involved in the creation of Exalted as far as I know.

ITT

Wukong isnt dead though. Cross bridges when they are made

Wukong has no right to make sweeping rulings regarding a setting that he did not write. His opinion on whether or not Charms or magic does not supersede Word of God on the matter. Meanwhile, Val just ruled that Charms and things like them qualify for Infinity.

That's not how we do things here, newbie.
SB does that though, perhaps you should go there and choke on a bag of dicks along with the rest of them.

What's the option you guys are talking about? I only see one mention of Street Fighter in the document.

I meant the original creator of the Jump itself unless you want to bother Holden and Morke with a cyoa they could care less about

The stupidest thing is that you people were TOLD he was going to use the topic to shitpost at the start but you all still fucking bit.

So Val can give Word of God on other people's jumps, but Wukong can't on his own jump....
You are so full of shit I'm actually a little impressed.

No, they should not enforce their headcanon upon settings they did not create. The only rulings they should be able to make are on perks/items/etc. that they are wholly responsible for.

I'm an addict! I just can't stop!
The shitposter just feels soooo good to respond to! Sweet sweet bait...

Exactly that small part. Val said, flat out, that you couldn't do that little fluffy tidbit.

/jc/ is the easiest general to bait

Pretty sure Val herself would probably agree that Wukong himself would have more authority on his jump

Welcome to modern /jc/.

Soon jumpmakers will have to beg Valeria to make rulings for their own jumps because otherwise, the thread will tear into them.

Wukong can't rule shit. Mardukth made Infernals, if he has a different opinion than Wukong, then what? Val only said Infinite treats Charms as spells, no more than that.

>The only rulings they should be able to make are on perks/items/etc. that they are wholly responsible for.
Exactly. So Val can say what she wants about her jumps, Wukong can say what he wants about his jumps and so on. So, where's the argument?

>No, they should not enforce their headcanon upon settings they did not create.
I hope you mean 'create' as in the jump and not the property otherwise this would be incredibly stupid.

Go masturbate instead.

I don't understand, the only mention is that "Asura's Wrath is apparently the prehistory of Street Fighter", what did she say you couldn't do?

>You’ll live the rest of your life on Gaea, which depending on your perks can be a very long time. If you endure the following eons, you might yet witness the rise and fall of martial arts magic. If a Street Fighter Jump is created, you may spend ten years in that updated reality before jumping to another ‘verse. Changes you make in this jump apply to that one.

Do you really not see the difference between the rulings "no, this aspect of the setting that I had no part in producing works the way I say it does" and "yes, things A, B, and C that are related to a perk I wrote are covered under its effect"? They're not the same thing at all, user.

This is his standard procedure to try and chase off a jumpmaker, just obsession all day in either direction. If someone dropped thirty jumps tomorrow he'd forget about her completely and target that one instead, because that person would then be one of the primary people keeping this thread alive, which he hates despite fucking making this thread.

>Mardukth made Infernals, if he has a different opinion than Wukong, then what?
That's why they collaborated, to head that sort of problem off before it came up.

Why didn't I think of that! Great idea user! /s

The AW jump allows you to stay in the setting for the millions of years it take to catch up with Street Fighter. The AW jump stipulates this, Val decided to say after making SF that you couldn't, despite it being about someone else's jump.
Although I can't remember her giving any justification for it beyond her not liking it. If someone remembers a better reason given please share it with me.

Oh, well then that makes complete sense why Val would turn that down. Muyo doesn't really have any influence over the Street Fighter Jump since he didn't make it.

If the shitposter was a criminal you'd be counted as an accomplice, since he can't function without people like you responding.

To be fair, the way Muyo ruled Mantra as working makes no actual sense in the context of the game. It basically is non-canon.

Final Fantasy 1 jump
Wizard master race
But those Fighter perks though. . .

Yeah, you're just boring me now, shit-chan. Maybe I'm just overtird but you just seem so dull and uninteresting right now I can't muster up the effort to deal with you. Maybe someone else will give you some attention.

I broke the law and the law won.
Don't worry oversensitive user, I'm going to bed so I can't help the big bad shitposter ruin your nice clean thread.

Bored and tired, shitties. Night night.

>The AW jump stipulates this, Val decided to say after making SF that you couldn't, despite it being about someone else's jump.
But that doesn't make sense, Asura's Wrath is the one with an option to affect a different Jump, not the other way around. Muyo had nothing to do with Street Fighter, why would the option in his Jump that allows you to change the setting using Asura's Wrath stuff be allowed to take president?

Go for Red Mage. Have the best of all three worlds! That perkline is pretty sweet too. And the free perk gives you style, panache, and posing!