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Thread Question: There are cards that you see and think at once, "That needs to die". What are the cards where you (or your opponents) are instead blindsided with "That needed to die three turns ago and I let this happen"?

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tappedout.net/mtg-decks/extreme-extreme-extreme-dinosaurs/
tappedout.net/mtg-deckpaste/04-10-17-iwy-deck-paste/
youtube.com/watch?v=X8zv8irGIvU
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mtggoldfish.com/deck/782702#paper
veekyforums.com/thread/55711957/games

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

There are cards that you see and think at once, "That needs to die".
paradox engine

What are the cards where you (or your opponents) are instead blindsided with "That needed to die three turns ago and I let this happen"?
slivers in general

askme
askme

Does dash work on commanders?

SniperGod
SniperGod

yes

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

veekyforums.com/thread/55692442/games

Kalemne, I assume?

Hell, they just need more female Giants in Magic in general. Even some monsterous looking ones.

5mileys
5mileys

This card looks fun. How can I best use it?

eGremlin
eGremlin

When you need to push damage through for the win. It's just a fancy way of tapping all creatures you don't control. You can also use it to pseudo fog for a turn.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Reject the sins of the game store!

happy_sad
happy_sad

Use it in pillow fort as an alternative to Insurrection. Just throw it down and watch the table form grudges, tear into each other like animals, and ultimately eat each other whole. And in the wild world of table politics you can usually get away with it since who to attack was in the damage-dealer's hands the whole time.

askme
askme

i spent a game harassing someone with blue bullshit and he eventually dropped an iona naming blue and i just lolled my way to the grave

i think this is what happens when you start off as a timmy and venture off to do UG bullshit for a while

idontknow
idontknow

Any group slug deck, throw in a furnace or dicate of twin gods, watch people punch out and slap the winner.

Any deck where you can reliable recast it.

Or just any deck where you've got a free slot for it in the "fun pet cards" space, because its really nice disruption- breaks board stalls, breaks up combos some, forces people to get active.

Emberburn
Emberburn

takes 10 minute turns
good luck escaping this at kitchen table, if anything turns are always wayyy longer
no women in playgroup
lol, apart from the friends girlfriends who want to join in

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Also, eater of days

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Use it to punish dickhead swarm players.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Need some help building my first from scratch EDH deck. Should I just drop the the token theme entirely from this deck? I like the idea of them because with any of the soul sisters out it's easy life on everyone of my turns and would make playing Licia on any given first mainphase easier as well as giving me an attacking force that isn't completely reliant on my commander staying and retaining her counters.
tappedout.net/mtg-decks/licias-calvary/

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Yes, but dashing gets added to the commander tax which also applies to Dash.

massdebater
massdebater

I wish kitchen table was this good. Besides what said, people act like fucking tards because "muh kitchen tabul"

likme
likme

honestly licia is kind of a bad commander to build if you don't know exactly what you're doing. since you're new, i'd recommend building RWB tokens with queen marchesa if you want to focus on tokens, or WB voltron with karlov if you want to retain the lifegain theme. you don't really want to do both at the same time unless there is some explicit synergy between them.

or, if you really REALLY want to build tokens AND lifegain then you'd probably be better off with trostani, but then you'd be ditching red and black for green

quickly scanning through your deck, it falls into a lot of newbie traps, like including vanilla creatures and having a bunch of situational/weak includes like emerge unscathed

DeathDog
DeathDog

I can't build red for shit, it's the only color that even when paired, doesn't work for me. So I've decided to build a monored deck, because I think it's a good way to go about it

Question is: how do I make this guy good? I know there may be a lot of combos and stuff, but besides that, what should I do?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

looter effects and big creatures

sundial of the infinite

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

best equipment in the game?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

GUN

Playboyize
Playboyize

Sunforger

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

boots of haste and mind-clamp or whatever

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Sundial of the infinite + whatever you want to do. Remember to use it during the end step to exile the sacrifice step of the ability, I've seen too many people just do it immediately after combat or their second main by mistake their first time reading it

Illusionz
Illusionz

How do hapatra decks usually win?
I cant imagine 1/1 sneks being particularly potent

Lunatick
Lunatick

Sundial and LD. See how he feels with the likes of Orcish Settlers, Avalanche Riders, and Invader Parasite to fuck with people. More stax package wouldn't go amiss either.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

If you have infinite sneks, with haste thanks to t1 Concordant Crossroads, it is quite potent.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

REMINDER:
doms play control, switches play combo, and subs play aggro/midrange

askme
askme

My nephew plays combo and he is a mega sissy.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

And persons who don't define themselves by their sexual role play whatever seems fun today.

None of this is important information. Call us when you have a Razaketh ban or something.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Thanks! I'll definitelly get LD and Sundial. Also, good tip on the dial, thanks.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Only playing one archetype

TechHater
TechHater

EDH
aggro

Nojokur
Nojokur

I'm thinking about building a group hug deck just for shits and gigs. What colors or commander should I take? I'm thinking something Bant

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

No

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Mirri wrecks shit because nobody expects it

Playboyize
Playboyize

Its natural to be sexually confused at first.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Group hug players get the rope.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I always kill them first encase they are slug

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I'm a sub and I always play control. Although my newfound love for combo may explain why I'm starting to think subbing is boring

Spamalot
Spamalot

t1 Concordant Crossroads
seems like a bad play desu famalam

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I'll sexually confuse you.

FastChef
FastChef

veekyforums.com/thread/55692442/games
I'm not saying we should have lords or something for mass demons, but I do think it would be neat if we had more non-demon cards which supported them.

MPmaster
MPmaster

You know all that reanimator shit that black has in its inventory?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

When Decree of Silence comes out, everyone auto-turtles and waits for someone else to bite the bullet. Then I drop Solemnity.

Snarelure
Snarelure

More stuff like that ogre from Kamigawa that tutors a demon could be nice. Cost reducers and stuff that benefit from controlling a demon too (something like a Drumhunter that trigger from controlling a Demon, for example).

Firespawn
Firespawn

What are the best bloodrush cards?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Don't. Some decks get toxic when exposed to hug

happy_sad
happy_sad

Yeah, and that stuff works just as well with any fatty, not just demons in particular. Where's the flavor?

idontknow
idontknow

do you guys rush someone or spread the damage around?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Painful Quandary

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

ever attacking someone before you are about to win the game
doing politics wrong

Nojokur
Nojokur

Depends. If I think a deck is cEDH (Zur, Meren, Selvala, etc) I'll hate them right off the table if I can and everyone else is smart enough to turn it into impromptu Archenemy. Otherwise I try to stay as not the scariest board presence, until I get some serious threats out all at once.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Thread question
Statecraft, after I've inevitably donated it to some timmy

TreeEater
TreeEater

Where's the flavor?
How can you look at this spell and ask that question? Really hamstrining yourself with that attitude man.

RavySnake
RavySnake

no women at playgroup
chad

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Price of knowledge.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

i let a sneak attack survive for an entire game cos the deck running it was really bad compared to other things on the table.

Then someone played dovescape and this player who had been doing nothing all game won next turn with an inf combo using sneak attack while I couldn't do anything

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Man, I'm not saying reanimation is lacking flavor in general, I'm just saying it has little to do with demons specifically.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

combo control

Lunatick
Lunatick

if theyre on an infinite combo thats when I focus them, if its just a regular player ill spread the damage evenly

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

i play control and im the biggest sub ever

Lunatick
Lunatick

the best thing about playing scion is I get away with people thinking my combo deck is a harmless dragon tribal deck for longer than I should

massdebater
massdebater

veekyforums.com/thread/55692442/games
They're also the same kind of autists who screech about netdecking and expect people to have an encyclopedic knowledge of twenty plus years of cards.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Spread it out until someone become a sufficient threat to warrent singling them out, even then I try to not get tunnel vision.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

yes of course all my ice age cards are in not in english *sigh*, want me to get my phone out for translations for you *sigh*.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Is Expedition Map good in Teferi? I took apart Eldrazi Tron recently and am trying to find homes for it's parts.

viagrandad
viagrandad

is it reasonable to have non-tribal creatures in a tribal deck?

Snarelure
Snarelure

What are you wanting to get?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Buys proxies from China
implying Chads even know about bootleg Magic

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I guess Academy Ruins would be the only land to tutor up so yeah probably not worth it.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

It's most desirable to fetch either tabernacle or inventors fair. It's likely worth including even if you don't have a tabernacle (really, who has one of these anyway?) As fetching out IF or academy ruins in an emergency is still pretty good. It also helps turn on metalcraft and improvise and provides fodder for transmute artifact and reshape. It can even provide ramp in a pinch if you fetch out ancient tomb eot. Did I mention you can fetch it with trinket mage?

Supergrass
Supergrass

implying Chads even know about Magic
ftfy

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

why is Commander VS the best youtube commander content? is it because it has 3.5 well adjusted adults playing a game without being neckbeard faggots.

Oh, that .5 is Jeremy. You know he's a faggot.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Ask yourself: do they support my tribe? If not are they worth just by being insane value e.g. Consecrated Sphinx?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

using points
They are shit

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I like Command Zone because Jimmy a qt

Spamalot
Spamalot

not wanting to watch relaxing gameplay where dudes are just having fun
probably drinking beers off camera
maybe giving each other a bro-jerk off camera too
not too competitive because that would get boring in about 5 episodes

yeah, they sure are shit. Idiot.

Playboyize
Playboyize

the 5 minutes of ads, the fucking song every episode, and lee kwais fucking smug ass attitude have ruined that show for me

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Yes. Even from a flavor perspective it would be normal for a tribe to have some allies from outside the tribe. Also having tribe memebers from different planes is already a flavor stretch

Pretty much the only reason you would limit yourself to a strict tribe-only creature base is OCD/autism

RumChicken
RumChicken

I also dislike Josh and I use adblock

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

More Giants need Reach. Fucking Ruric Thar can block fliers but Kalemne can't.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

adblock doesnt block the "getur cards at CURD KINGDOME and make sure to bye ULTCHRA PRO EKLIPS SLIEVES!" every goddamn episode

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Or you're running something like say Elves or Vamps where you've got more than enough good in-tribe creatures already.

viagrandad
viagrandad

5 minutes of ads

i wish it were just that, the command zones most recent episode had a total of 17 minutes worth of ads and a grand total of 22 minutes worth of actual content if you could even call it that as all they talked about was EDHrec

takes2long
takes2long

I get a kick out of the laboratory maniacs. Dan is a bit of a twat though.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

You have a fair point but I'm willing to overlook it for a qt who owns a shiba. Also eclipse sleeves are a meme

SniperWish
SniperWish

Thread Question
Skybind. If someone spendt 5 mana casting it, they're not just planning on getting an occasional Constellation trigger.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Elves want craterhoof behemoth, if you were cutting that because it's not an elf that would be kinda silly

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I have little bitch hands, so I can shuffle a whole commander deck with eclipse sleeves. I can't with DS. Also, Eclipse are opaque. In every other way though, DS Matte are soooo much better. I just like the gay colors like Mint, Sky blue, APple green, etc.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

refusing to play stuff like birds or solemn is also stupid

they are just part of a base for a deck like lands imo

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Yeah. Listening to that was a fucking chore. If I was a patron, I'd be livid. I paid how much for them to talk about cards that annoy them for 10 minutes and it was like 30 minutes of ads for other content creators and/or products? Fuck that gay shit.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Alright thanks user. How about All is Dust for a board wipe? Or is it too cost prohibitive?

eGremlin
eGremlin

All answers beside Skullclamp are wrong
Jitte is fine but the clamps got it beat

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

ill never understand why people like eclipse sleeve so much. they split way easier than DS, they are cloudy so you cant see your foils very well, they dont come in packs of 100 so you have to buy 7 dollars more worth of sleeves to get enough for a deck then you have 60 extra sleeves you are not using, and they have barely any colors

5mileys
5mileys

i used to give 4 dollars every episode but after the last game knights which wasnt even about commander and was just another ad for WotC i pulled the plug and cancelled. its just not worth it any more, there are so many better content creators out there. hell jumbo commander does way better when it comes to commander content and its literally just some asshole with a mic and shitty free editing software

Snarelure
Snarelure

Dragon shield are too big, the double sleeved card slides around inside them. I've never seen an eclipse sleeve split but they are fairly new so idk.

You're right about the foil thing though hard to see them

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Yeah, realized as I was posting that Green tribes want Craterhoof. At the same time they'll be an Elf Craterhoof inside of a few years.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Hey, guys, I heard you were talking about equipment.

likme
likme

they split way easier than DS,
you have 60 extra sleeves you are not using
There may be some overlap there. Pretty sure plenty of people would love to have Dragonshields in packs of 120.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

the double sleeved card slides around inside them.
ive never seen that but i also dont personally double sleeve with DS, only the original KMCs. though to be honest i dont really see much of a point in double sleeving

WebTool
WebTool

I don't run it myself but I've seen other lists use it. I do run Ugin so make of that what you will. I'd say it's meta dependant. Definitly worth keeping around in case it becomes relevant. If you're fully kitted out with all the requisite rocks (or even with budget replacements) you should have little trouble reaching 7 mana in a timely fashion. There are other options too. You're already jamming cyclonic I'm sure and evacuation is a perfectly serviceable wipe, albeit temporary. Just cheese 'em with a wheel after poping that bad boy and you'll be fine.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Pretty sure plenty of people would love to have Dragonshields in packs of 120.
good thing DS sell sleeves in pack of 60 now then. you also get about 105 sleeve in every DS box so you have extras in case of splitting which ive personally never had a DS sleeve do

Lunatick
Lunatick

I mean there's already ezuri and he's great but you want another of that effect even if he's the commander

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Thoughts on As Foretold?

Soft_member
Soft_member

In my experience it slides around even more without double sleeving

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Pick it up along with Restore Balance, Ancestral Visions, Wheel of Fate

Emberburn
Emberburn

I wish I had an excuse to use it. It's too slow to be relevant for me.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

If it sticks, it's free mana. If it doesn't, someone wasted Enchantment Removal on a three drop

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Any deck is viable with tutors , old Dual lands and all the color fixing staples right ?

cum2soon
cum2soon

in my playgroup it would likely be hit by some sort of mass removal by the time it was useful

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Things have to go pretty well for it to be free mana though. If you spent 3 mana, that means you need to cast at least 4 mana in spells off it to have gained mana, which means you need the right stuff in hand

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

play only creatures and non tutor/ramp spells from homelands

whereismyname
whereismyname

Oh yeah, it's certainly not an auto-inclusion in any deck. But if you're running a deck with a lot of low CMC cards or even a bunch of Instants then it shines. It's a totally different card if your Commander is Baral.

I only really play it in my UW Enchantment Tribal since it draws targeted removal like mad, provides Devotion for Ephara when she gets out of the Command Zone, and gives me a helping hand since my only Artifact is Expedition Map.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

How do I build a Lich deck that uses all kinds of effects like and what Commander is worthy to command it?

I feel like white will also be mandatory due to Phyrexian Unlife.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

You could pull some shenanigans with Melira and Phyrexian Unlife to make yourself unable to die unless they remove either one of them.

Supergrass
Supergrass

I'm making cuts to upgrade Karador, and i'm not sure if Mirari's Wake is a good fit for the deck or not. I'd be replacing it with Enlightened Tutor, but I could always find another card to cut. Do you guys think it's worth the slot?

Booteefool
Booteefool

KMCs are king!

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

So Abzan?

Pic related and its plentiful equivalents would obviously have to be included.

farquit
farquit

Why would you replace a huge source of mana with a one time use thing?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Let's go with Vhati il-Dal. Let's make him have all the mana rocks, and manafixing in the world. What's his wincon? It's a lot of interesting interactions, but when he gets going, then what? Swinging with big guys? Reanimator? Tree combo to take someone out?

Not every deck is going to be some cedh monster that cleans the table turn 3, 4 or 5. Even at its most efficient state, many decks are just inherently weak. Color fixing and tutors just make decks more consistent.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Oloro. All the colors you need and the perfect ability.

likme
likme

There's only like 5 usable ones. GR I'm assuming?

hairygrape
hairygrape

Supposedly pheldagryff is like the most evil thing ever.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Diaochan, Artful Beauty group slug and chaos.

To make sure everyone REALLY hates you.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I'm just not sure if I need the huge source of mana, though. I don't run mana dorks, and the only rock I have is Chromatic Lantern, though, so maybe not.

StonedTime
StonedTime

I love me some holy swords

JunkTop
JunkTop

Meant to link

Illusionz
Illusionz

running primal surge in naya
been missing having good ol' fling
just discovered Bloodshot Cyclops
OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY, I GET TO THROW ELDERSCALE AT SOMEONE AGAIN.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Play Marionette Master
Equip a Thopter with Cranial Plating and swing in for 15
Equip with Cranial Plating to Master
Sac 2 Thopters to Breya and drain a dude for 26
Push my last Thopter to polish off the other guy
Breya as an affinity deck is kinda fun.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Not anymore. They got bought out by some corner cutting Chinese shitshow.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Heart-Piercer Manticore, my man.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

In Naya
Not running Brion instead
It's literally just a better version of bloodshot

Playboyize
Playboyize

just order the old ones

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

You guys ever use fake commanders? I recently found RoboRosewater and I'm tempted to run this fish in my group.

Any stuff I could use for fun or jank with this?

TechHater
TechHater

how did I forget about him.

Oh my god why are you guys doing this to my playgroup. They already hate my Naya deck.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Can confirm. The newest batch doesn't have the splitting problems that the early product had but it's clearly taken a sharp dip in quality. The corners and sides catch and get fucked up more easily than before. There is marked discoloration on the sides as well. I could identify which card was my divining top every time until I swapped it.

Spamalot
Spamalot

white for badass justice guys like Gideon
blue for counter spells
green for big badass creatures
black for (b) look at your opponents hand, fuck them in the ass regardless of mulligan
but why play red?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

You should try this, too.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Robosewater probably shouldn't be your source for unofficial commanders. Also the last clause is barely comprehensible.

FastChef
FastChef

Vedalkin orrery and eldrazi

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Wrong card! I have to give you a Sunbird for ants instead

Booteefool
Booteefool

hello guys I'm building my first white EDH Deck and I need your Help since I've never built white
The commander is Michiko Konda
Can anyone suggest more cards similar to Isolation cell because i want my opponents to waste mana on their choices same with Norns annex
I would also like ways to make them sac their board state and waste things which i why ill add some exile like swords to plow etc
was thinking of buying land tax and i know i want elsh norn in it

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

he doesn't play skulls for the best tutors in the game
he doesn't bend nature to his will through necromancy
he can't into yawgmoth's will

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

white
user. I have some bad news.

Emberfire
Emberfire

what is the best creature(or any other way) to deal with dovescape?

I'm thinking of elephant or bane of progress but these are pretty high mana cost

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Ghostly Prison, Sphere of Safety, Aurification, Norn's Annex, Karmic Justice, Martyr's Bond. Those are all pretty pillow-fort-ish. You might branch into Hatebears and/or Stax. Kismet, Static Orb, Winter Orb, Smokestack, Tangle Wire, Thalia 1.0, Torpor Orb, New Torpor Orb On Legs, Suppression Field, Cursed Totem, Null Rod, Dampning Matrix, Leonin Arbiter, Aven Mindcensor, that sort of stuff. Don't forget Armageddon, Catastrophe, Cataclysm maybe Ravages of War... you know, a nice robust suite of MLD. If you can spring for Land Tax to be sure to have a few in hand when you fuck the world, that's extra good.

Pack All is Dust for really tough board states.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

World Breaker is hard to interact with since it's a cast trigger and it's also recurrable. Though it's expensive.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Colors? Clearly you have green, at which point you probably shouldn't be complaining too much about mana cost. If you have white as well, consider trying to land Aura Shards before Dovescape lands.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Just beat their face in, famalam.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

K A Z U U L
A
Z
U
U
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Snarelure
Snarelure

5 colour scion combo/control, my beatdown plan is pretty poor

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

... is not a good choice for goad everybody more than any other red commander since goaded creatures will not attack you and thus will never make ogres happen.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Getting my Dinosaur list ready to pick up the remaining pieces for once I opened my Display/Fatpack.
youtube.com/watch?v=SqgJ6wzSW8k

How's this looking so far?
Any cuts/swaps/addition you'd deem absolutely necessary for a deck like it? I don't really often play Naya in any way, so I might be overlooking some things. I've got plenty of decent goodstuff value cards in Naya already lying around, but I just don't know what to cut for them.
Maybe I'm packing a bit too much land fetching and ramp and should at least drop the expensive ramp cards in favor of draw or removal?

Spamalot
Spamalot

I'm actually probably going to stick that in my Iroas deck... Which contains Lightmine Field.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Oh, right.
Damn.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Welp, that was the wrong link.
tappedout.net/mtg-decks/extreme-extreme-extreme-dinosaurs/

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Also Chronatog and Chronatog Totem.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Doesn't check out, my gf is a switch and plays nothing but control and I'm a massive sub and I play a bit of everything, though I lean more towards control/combo.

Flameblow
Flameblow

What if I play all three

SniperWish
SniperWish

U>R>W>B>G

RumChicken
RumChicken

Reclamation sage. Come on man

StonedTime
StonedTime

Last thread I complained about local shops and someone mentioned they found a good one in Houston. Which is where I am, actually.

Asgard is okay and I have a solid playgroup there, but we don't meet often so finding people to play with outside my little clique is a travesty.

What are the other good shops? I'll likely pass on trying to meet with y'all specifically since you will find out how much of a hypocrite I am about people being awful, but if there are more places with more pleasant people, I'd like to check them out.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Control players wish they were doms.

massdebater
massdebater

Direct damage is versatile and surprisingly fun. And haste is a good mechanic.

TechHater
TechHater

Feldon, Purp, Slobad, Chris Bosh and Neheb

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

green might be the strongest color in commander. at least when paired with another color.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

true, but then you end up being a green player and id be too embarrassed to trade my dignity for the strength of the color

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Should I be running lab man with locust god?

eGremlin
eGremlin

Probably.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

probably need to cut some cards to get a decent land count, but can i get some thoughts on this deck so far?

the idea is to create a bit of chaos while i sit back and watch.. and grow tokens and draw cards.
it's not trying to be competitive, just good old casual fun with some jank like entangler+shielded by faith+protector of the crown and/or fumiko

tappedout.net/mtg-deckpaste/04-10-17-iwy-deck-paste/

Flameblow
Flameblow

stop shilling custom cards and go back to your containment thread

Firespawn
Firespawn

the switch can play mtg? might be worth getting after all. :^)

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Those look like comfy pajamas

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

god id love to put a finger in her butt

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Check out strikezone for fnm draft, it's a bit out of the way but the entry is minimal, the payout is better than most stores, and the people are decent.
Some friends of mine are usually there a little early playing some EDH, they play on Saturdays too but I'm not always available. Asgards is a close second for me

takes2long
takes2long

Thread question
Boy oh boy, an excuse to post my favorite green token army tech. Seriously, for a card that gets overlooked as often as it does (or that people just haven't ever heard of) this thing can put in some work.

Emberburn
Emberburn

or finger in the bum?

Evilember
Evilember

WHEELS

SniperWish
SniperWish

can confirm this card is nuts. If you dry fire not enough tokens for lethal this can push you over the edge with a premature alpha strike.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Which card sleeves are the best?
What's your favorite color sleeves?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Dragonshields, any dragonshield sleeve but the blank ones.

I prefer black.

Supergrass
Supergrass

I like Dragonshields matte ivory/black loved kmc, a shame they went downhill.

massdebater
massdebater

think professor is accurate
get kmcs
do the pull test
split instantly
That was a couple of months after his video shilling them too.

idontknow
idontknow

Dragonshields are great, I picked up some hareruyas at a gp a few years ago and they're always been my low-key favorites though.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

i got dragonshield matte in black, white, blue and green.

i've used the white ones the most, no problems yet for any of them.

double sleeving with dragonshield is a bit of a pain though, very tight fit but doable. took me around 90 minutes for my edhdeck but that was also my first time double sleeving

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

he rereviewed them recently and gave them a c- or something. they were great up until october/november last year.

farquit
farquit

the prof always says the split test is just for show and a rough estimation of how they are, not how they actually work when playing regular mtg.

also as other anons pointed out kmc are shit tier now due to a shift in quality

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I'm pretty partial to Dragon Shields. Flat black sleeves are probably my favorite, but I dig the clear mattes I used for my Kozilek deck.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

dont listen to dragoncucks
those things build up grim within the first week, slide around if they dont have the gunk, and the cards dont even fit in properly

order up the old KMCs in dark blue or black
never need anything else

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

don't listen to kmc hypercuck
dragonshields are good

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Don't listen to the fools, BCW sleeves are the way

Supergrass
Supergrass

don't listen to either, buy eclipse! and donate to my patreon p..please.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I want you to tell me how many times youve replaced your dragonshields because you were too lazy to scrape the gunk off of them

I havent EVER had to replace my kmcs and Ive had them for years

id rather use dragonshields than become a goy

happy_sad
happy_sad

tfw casting kicked rite of replications on fog bank

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

All these guys are fags, just use 100 toploaders

massdebater
massdebater

dragonshields are the standard of card sleeves
kmcs are the modern
eclipse are the legacy
and top loaders are vintage tier

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

i've never had to replace or clean my dragonshields yet, althought they are only a year or so old.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

eclipse

I wanted to like them because everyone and their mother says they are good but I hate that matte front too much.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

using sleeved at all
not ruberbanding them together and storing them in your back pocket
not folding them in half to facilitate riffling

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

are you rudy?
youtube.com/watch?v=X8zv8irGIvU

w8t4u
w8t4u

There's a Virgin and Chad image somewhere in here, I just know it

StonedTime
StonedTime

how often do you play, I play ever friday night and the kmcs have been the only nerdgunk resistant sleeves
tho for my edh I can use dragonshields since I only use it every now and then and they dont get that much gunk on em and any time they do I can just scrape it off with an unused sleeve

King_Martha
King_Martha

I always sleeve my cards upside down

everyone at my shop always gives me shit for it for some reason

idontknow
idontknow

I want to make a Niv Mizzet vampire cops deck.

Emberfire
Emberfire

sure, i dont play too often, twice a month at best. i dont get much gametime in atm.
but twice a month is still roughly 20 drafts in a year and yes i resleeve them for drafts which adds to wear and tear.
But they still hold up just as well when i first bought them

WebTool
WebTool

where are all the other land creatures?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

All is Dust
Mono White is the archetype that would get the least mileage out of that sorcery unless your commander is 8.5 Tails

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

weirdly enough my kmc sleeves collect dust faster than my dragonshields.

farquit
farquit

I personally like Eclipse sleeves from ultra pro.

viagrandad
viagrandad

I was playing against a RW Land Destruction deck and managed to get this and From Beyond at the same time. They blew up everyone's lands and then realized I was suddenly miles ahead of everyone for it.

cum2soon
cum2soon

keep it in play to fuck over everyone else's spells

iluvmen
iluvmen

They're stupidly overrated.

Inmate
Inmate

are you australian or something

idontknow
idontknow

I'm switching some things up. I want to play a reanimator deck and a "steal stuff" mill deck but cant figure out between:
Scarab God Mill/Steal and BUG Sidisi Reanimator
Or
UB Taigam Reanimator and Mimeoplasm Mill/Steal

What combonation would give me more bang for my buck? I dont want too much overlap.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

no I live in colorado

Emberfire
Emberfire

i dont really see much of a point in double sleeving
A single spilled drink changes that opinion quickly

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Lightmine Field
you're including it's older brother, right?

JunkTop
JunkTop

Why do the Izzet and Golgari guilds hate each other? Who does the Orzhov have beef with?

massdebater
massdebater

Good with decks that run a lot of instants and cantrips/inherent card draw such as Rashmi or Talrand
Cute in Jhoira because time counters
Not great in any other deck

iluvmen
iluvmen

Izzet hate Golgari cause theyre dirty fucks who always gotta be interfering with the science
Golgaris hate Izzet cause they keep tossin out lightning while theyre eating the poop off the streets

Orzhovs have beef with everyone but since everyone owes them some money they have to deal with it

whereismyname
whereismyname

orzhov sorta gets along with the other white aligned guilds and simic
they hate gruul

Soft_member
Soft_member

The Virgin Card Protector
Quadruple sleeves his deck
sleeve color fits both the deck's colors and theme
Brand new Satin Tower that matches his decks sleeves
plays on a custom waifu playmat on top of a tourney prize mat on top of an Ultra-pro mat on top of a pre-release mat
gets pissy when his opponent mash shuffles his prized deck
routinely swaps out cards for PSA grade 8 and above
carries his deck in a modified suitcase
mumbles out his plays without looking at you
plays to win, loses terribly
uses obscure, dificult to achieve combo that he ripped off from cedh

Chad Back Pocket
No sleeves, sleeves are for the fools who can't wash their hands
No deck box, just rubber bands his cards and shoves them into his back pocket, next to his condoms
has no idea what a playmat is
cards are in pristine condition anyway, because Chad is able to use hygeine
looks you in the eyes as he loudly proclaims his plays with the volume of a jet plane taking off
plays to play, wins even if he loses because he plays fun decks
never actually loses because he relies on 2 card combos

askme
askme

Any recommendations for a Grimlock Voltron build?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

those both sound like cancer

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Fits the meme perfectly

Techpill
Techpill

For y'all that double sleeve, what box do you use to hold your cards?
I've only tried once and it was too much for all of my card boxes

Flameblow
Flameblow

I think you took the Virgin a bit far, isn't that side supposed to be uncomfortably relatable?

Supergrass
Supergrass

How do I live long enough?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

this is my wincon user

TreeEater
TreeEater

Wow that's sexy

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Brion can't target creatures with his flings

StonedTime
StonedTime

I don't know much, but I'm thinking Brago with a lot of removal and draw.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

No you're supposed to feel empathetic with the Chad side not the Virgin side. You aren't actually a virgin, are you, user?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Oh and stax.

Inmate
Inmate

gets pissy when his opponent mash shuffles his prized deck

How are you supposed to shuffle a sleeved deck then? That's half the point of owning sleeves, giving you the ability to mash them together. Should be about getting upset at someone even thinking of riffle shuffling such a thick deck.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Clamp, Greaves, Jitte, some of the Mirran Swords

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Can win with , right?

cum2soon
cum2soon

They don't play real EDH.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

No, I'm not though I haven't gotten any in like, five years, so I might as well be.

Firespawn
Firespawn

I still want /edhg/ vs /edhg/ commander matches

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

No. Firebird is a cast trigger, it will go on the stack above approach and resolve first.

Playboyize
Playboyize

When Sunbird's Invovcation triggers Approach of the Second Sun is still on the stack, if you cast another spell cmc 7 after Approach resolves you'll win.

happy_sad
happy_sad

real EDH
wat

Emberburn
Emberburn

I'm already imagining a Craterhoof Behemoth and a Scarred Puma getting played together side by side, game of a lifetime right there.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I never thought about copying it, and it should work, right? The copy is named Approach of the Second Sun, and the original one was cast from your hand.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

read the first line
"if approach was cast from your hand...you win the game"

the copy wasnt cast from your hand

Emberburn
Emberburn

Friendly reminder that the Command Zone use their advance knowledge about coming cards to do insider trading

Flameblow
Flameblow

It only works if you *cast* the copy (most copy effects don't) AND the original resolves/is cast second, and cast from your hand. I don't know of any cards that let you do that

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Oh, you're right, there aren't many copy effects that cast them.

The problem is not being cast from the hand. The first Approach doesn't need to be cast from your hand.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Dragonshield Matte Jet, just like matte black but better

SniperGod
SniperGod

elaborate

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

cards that blindside people
For some reason my playgroup doesn't see necropotence as a big threat when I play it.
master of cruelties
seriously it's basically a win con but my playgroup ignores it for awhile , tap out, then freak out when I play things like blade of selves or rogues passage after.

selenia dark angel
especially if she's my commander no one seems to think she's that great but she's my main way of winning in that deck

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

My camera is to much of a potato, but they got really small sparkly bits embedded a bit like automotive paint.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

For some reason my playgroup doesn't see necropotence as a big threat when I play it.
Is your playgroup retarded?

Lunatick
Lunatick

nice , hows the shuffle feel , and do you double sleeve?

5mileys
5mileys

Honestly yeah kind of. They don't see it as a threat because it by itself isn't a win con even though it finds them for me. for some reason they shit themselves if I play even basic ramp artifacts

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Jace and Vraska have romantic scenes

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I know you guys arent very good at giving advice but I need some deck help here

decks become stale after winning so in the same ways so im cutting 7 tutors and torment of hailfire
give me flavorful bolas cards to toss in
tappedout.net/mtg-deckpaste/04-10-17-Wbv-deck-paste/

Methnerd
Methnerd

Shuffle feels just like regular matte dragonshields (so really good imo), I haven't doublesleeved with these yet but I reckon it's not going to be much different than other dragonshields (very tight if the sleeve is fresh out of the box) so you might want to use them for a while sans inner sleeve maybe in another deck, that seems to loosen them up a bit making the process a whole lot easier.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Primus sucks.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I'm glad you shared that with me user

viagrandad
viagrandad

is mystical tutor into cyclonic rift the most uninspired play you can make?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

No different from any other tutor for answers.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

whats worse tutor for answer or tutor for infinite?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

When you are about to get curbstomped "inspired plays" are pretty low on the priority list, also pic related.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

tfw all your decks are in that unfortunate power level range where casual bros with modified precons get steamrolled but you're not actually equipped to fight tier 1 decks like tazri food chain or storm either

askme
askme

thats the sweetspot, id love to have you in my playgroup user as long as youre not running an infinite combo or just goodstuff

RumChicken
RumChicken

I know some people who'd say the former, but I personally think the latter.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

You think so user? Idk I feel bad crushing people just trying to have fun with cats and stuff but then if somebody was like "let's play competitive" I couldn't compete with all those tutors and turn3 wins, it's like there's no home for me

Unfortunately my decks are kind of goodstuffy though user

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I think I'm going to build mono red fireball tribal so I have something to play against low power people

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Tfw Bruna Voltron curbstomps most of my lgs, so I get relegated with the 95% Prossh guy.

I win about 1 game every 5, still haven't got him to play something else

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

I know that feel. My group tends to laser beam focus me before I can get on my bullshit though

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

The latter is fine if the dude going infinite has been struggling to even stay alive (which they always will once someone finds out they run a infinite combo deck) and uses combos as his primary wincon anyway.

takes2long
takes2long

yeah, if you have a playgroup of people who arent cancer tier and also hate tutors + combo then youre golden

sadly Im relegated to being the mono-control player since both of the people in my group are comboniggers
basically I have to play at the most optimal level in order to force them to stop being cunts while also sneaking out my wincon once I have control established and then keep it going so they dont manage to sneak something by me, force and pact are an auto-include in every deck I run or else I risk a tooth n nail sneaking by me ending up with an "oops heres deadeye + palinchron for the millionth time arent I fucking special"

but I actually enjoy control so preventing those fuckers from jacking off on the table brings me great joy, UR chaos serves to that same end too and I dont even have to run counterspells
my favorite was when I warp worlded out the locust gods alhammarrets archive + mindmoil + library of leng
fucker ended up not even being able to cast his laboratory maniac without decking himself

mindlock orb is a godsend as well

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Thread Question
I don't really have one but recently I tried to kill a Bant Tamiyo to prevent the sliver player from ulting her, I got cockblocked by the Azami player and the sliver dude won because he got the emblem and just shat out his deck and everyone else was like "Oh"

Also can a decent Ghave deck be built on a budget? What are some good cheap combos with him? I

Flameblow
Flameblow

That's not "aggro", that's voltron

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Why would ANYONE allow someone to get an Omniscience out, let alone the fucking Sliver player?

RavySnake
RavySnake

I can potentially kill someone with Vicious Shadows if I used Nin to kill a creature of theirs and overload their hand, right?

eGremlin
eGremlin

Yeah I'm confused why did he save the tamiyo?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Nin resolves first and gives them a million cards so yeah, should work.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

As per the OP image, that card rather fits the thread question. Nobody counters the damn thing because you'd rather counter the Rift or whatever? And they don't bother destroying it because on its own it does nothing so why not take out what's enabling it and kill two birds with one stone? And then after it's been forgotten some massive fucking bounce comes rolling through, boards are empty, and graveyards are full.

Illusionz
Illusionz

So, when are we getting anti-Emblem cards anyway?

Doubling Season with superfriends is retarded beyond belief.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

losing to supertrash

git gud

cum2soon
cum2soon

tfw I had Painful Quandry, Oppression, active Bloodchief Ascension and Liliana's Caress all on the field in my Neheb deck
I also once had active Bloodchief and Oppression in cEDH match and the Yidris player had me gain over 80 life during his turn and he didn't even realize that he couldn't kill me with the water tower
Didn't win the latter, but it was pretty damn fun

Flameblow
Flameblow

I kind of want one really antiplaneswalker card that does that. Some fuckhuege expensive enchantment that kills emblems and stops you from activating loyalty abilities

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Politics. Azami was getting hated out and was trying to get someone to bail him out of it.

The other two players in the game were just more knowledgeable about this Azami deck in particular and wanted it dead and just didn't pay attention to the sliver player because his board was Tamiyo and a 2/2. I played a big dragon at one point and it scared everyone and by that point they just forgot about sliver guy.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I was hoping the new Bolas would have an anti-planeswalker ability like GB Garruk had, this time targeting specifically emblems.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Just like keikaku.

I feel nobody wants to take the plunge and take care of it, so it just stays on board gently nagging everyone's nerves, what a great multiplayer card.

Flameblow
Flameblow

I wish, but walkers are THE cards. Wizards hate any kind of hate towards their pet cards and casuals love them for some reason, so it will not happen at least in years.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Dragonshield
I usually color-coordinate my sleeves eith the mana type of the deck, but I really like the dark green.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

That was still silly of the Azami guy. If anything, he should've used the Sliver player as a way to buy another turn and not invest in him. Getting an untouchable Omniscience is an instant win anyway, meaning he'd lose either to you or to the Sliver guy once his Emblem lands. Gambling on getting out of that spot himself would've probably been the better approach.

cum2soon
cum2soon

The reason they dislike planeswalker hate isn't about them being pet cards though. It's for limited reasons. If you get removal that only works on mythic rares it's a hella dead slot in draft, and you can't have it cluttering up the lower rarities. If you make the removal mythic then you have people bitching at wizards for cash grabbing. No winning move.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

then why not print an anti-emblem card in commander precons?

DeathDog
DeathDog

Then they need to print a bunch of planeswalkers in commander precons then, or it will be dead there too.

If each deck has 5+ walkers to make the removal worth including they will get scalped to hell and back, exacerbating a problem we already get on release.

You have to think this shit out man

FastChef
FastChef

I got a huge chunk of the '06 highschool football national champions to play mtg and WoW, so yeah they do.

Lunatick
Lunatick

man if only they had a set of commander precons that used planeswalkers as commanders

it would fit great in a set like that...

StonedTime
StonedTime

Scarab god and Hostage Taker's prices wont hold right?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Wanting more planeswalkers as commanders

Disgusting

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Scarab God might actually go up a little.

Hostage Taker will drop some as more people draft and sell the cards from drafting

SniperWish
SniperWish

I didnt say that I meant that an anti-emblem card couldve been printed in those sets with ease

give me a new ral zarek that can be used as a commander plz

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I have a question about the new ruling of Planeswalkers in Magic. Since new planeswalkers are being given "Legendary" and the "Planeswalker" sub type no longer does the same thing as legendary, does that mean I can have two planeswalkers of the same name on the field at the same time as long as they don't have the legendary subtype?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Yes, but all planeswalkers have had their oracle text changed, so without some shenanigans they are all legendary now.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

All they need are decent cards that have an added bonus when used on Walkers. The "X's Defeat" cycle was a step in the right direction but they pulled their punches. Consider a Shock variant but when redirected to a walker it deals triple.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Still looking for some help with a super jank Relentless Rats Karador deck, any secret tech would be appreciated

Remembrance
Secret Salvage
Dual nature
The fact the deck works exactly one time before someone runs a labotomy effect and it's worthless

Please respond

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Okay, thank you

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Well, you could always Nevermore or Memoricide THEIR lobotomy effects.

Anyway, as for cards that care about named things, Bloodbond March for obvious reasons. Aven Shrine, Nantuko Shrine, Pack Hunt, Bifurcate for more fun jank.

likme
likme

20 bucks

Methshot
Methshot

Yeah Bloodbond March was the first one that came to mind, those other suggestions are great though thanks user, it's exactly the kind of jank I want, Relentless Rats is really the only card in the whole of EDH that can benefit from cards like that and they make it abusable.

I might just focus more on surprising people with rats every few games rather than board protection, if someone wants to swap decks to deal with Relentless Rats and ruin my day I'll just run another deck.

Emberfire
Emberfire

i saw a guy run this in narset but now that i'm looking at the card that doesn't seem like it should work...

eGremlin
eGremlin

but user, its perfect for the vampire/dinosaur tribals

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Relentless Rats is really the only card in the whole of EDH that can benefit from cards like that
News for you, friend

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Well I guess I got an Atheroes deck to make, goddamn is it great being a Timmy

Spamalot
Spamalot

so wait if I have mirror gallery I can have as many twink jaces out as I want?

w8t4u
w8t4u

bought mine for $6
wew I don't even use it anymore

viagrandad
viagrandad

I run a 5 color "cursemander" as I call it

And it has a 6< turn win if you pull the perfect hand mtggoldfish.com/deck/782702#paper

likme
likme

planeswalkers are legendary now
mirror gallery makes the legendary rule not apply

how is this hard to figure out

Soft_member
Soft_member

Gib

RumChicken
RumChicken

This is one of the cards that make whirlermaker viable

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Coalition Victory is banned, breh

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

it is wednesday my dudes

massdebater
massdebater

I don't use it in actual games I only use it in casual ones with my freinds
I typically swap it out with Verduran enchantress if I ever go to FNM or anything

TreeEater
TreeEater

I should probably put that in the sideboard now that you bring it up thanks

TreeEater
TreeEater

Ok so I was playing my reanimator toolbox deck yesterday and I spent the game reanimating and copying my Jace's Mindseeker, but sadly I was up aganst 3 tribal decks so it did jack fuck

What other goofy creature should I reanimate and copy with this deck repeatedly? It is a BUG deck that can any creature I want on the board from like turn 3-4 onwards, so feel free to suggest something

I would run Protean Hulk but I hate winning

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

can any creature

can get any creature I mean

also I want this creature to either protect me or control the board a bit, one of the tribal decks smashed me for like 120 damage while I was busy getting my 7th Jace's Mindseeker ETB out

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

No thanks i prefer to watch people that play the game properly without making up babby rules to not hurt each other's feefees on how bad they are at playing and deck building.

idontknow
idontknow

Id like this too

who do you watch?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

originally spiked because of Locust God
Locust God got solved too quickly and a good chunk abandoned ship
Price memory stays
Tribal comes out
Ofc they wouldnt reprint it, shits powerful at 3cmc
tfw traded it away because I never did tribal and never will
Vampires is apperantly dank as shit and Im short one Shared Animosity
J U S T

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

find a way to give creatures +1+1 counters on entering the battlefield and then do it with clever impersonator

farquit
farquit

im revisiting my locust god deck and im tempted to buy it right now, fuck 20 bucks

using that with 10-20 bugs on the table

massdebater
massdebater

Emblems being something that can't be removed is central to their identity. It's the same reason they're never going to reprint Leeches and refuse to print any effects like it.

Snarelure
Snarelure

"lol being broken is their identity"

fuck off, weve gotten cards that can get themselves or other cards out of exile, that means that nothing in the game is impossible and sooner or later we'll get an anti-emblem card

Flameblow
Flameblow

lol being broken is their identity

They're not the broken thing, it's Doubling Season.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

you can get rid of doubling season tho

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

One of the things that's constantly been repeated about Magic design is that you shouldn't consider broken rules as being precedence. Rules are broken deliberately, case-by-case, not just "because we've broken this rule before". Any exception to a rule is an exception, not the new standard.

Besides which, if you really want it, technically Karn is the anti-emblem card. He breaks the rules, getting rid of poison and emblems, for a very specific purpose.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Karn Ultimate
And all colors cab use it!
You big fat baby

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Yes, and?
Emblems are only a problem when you can basically make a planeswalker into a sorcery that says "You get an Emblem" through Doubling Season. Otherwise Emblems mostly have the balancing factor of having to keep what is essentially the most frail card type alive for several turns.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

post more green cards that should be other colors

I want to play mono-green control

iluvmen
iluvmen

Commander clash, they aren't really competitive but they make fun goofy decks as well as good ones. If i want to watch people with cutthroat decks i watch lab maniacs.

Inmate
Inmate

Ultimately guard cheap plastic box. Very good quality despite the price.

DeathDog
DeathDog

selenia dark angel
How? Through cd?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

It's called Stifle.

Methshot
Methshot

If you want cheap: ultimate guard 100+ cards plastic boxes
If you want quality: ultimate guard monolith

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Appreciate, I'll get one to check it out

Emberburn
Emberburn

I feel like most people in my local playgroup play way too passively. People don't use many board wipes and they are scared of attacking even when they have a lot of creatures. In most games people just sit around amassing creatures, ramping and whatever until someone can resolve their biggest, baddest spell and win. I realize this is sort of what happens in edh, but I want more attacking and action in general.

Aside from playing more aggressively myself I want out make/incentivize other people to bash face. I was thinking of making a Grenzo deck and add a few spells like Disrupt Decorum.

Any suggestions for cards to achieve this? Preferably not ones that will draw too much hate.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Selenia is usually built as life total shenanigans.
So you pay your life down to nothing and then trade it with someone else.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

The trick is to play Chaos decks. Warp World, Scrambleverse, Grip of Chaos, Wild Evocation etc.

Evilember
Evilember

This is the best way to play, the blind rage from some people who get attacked by a 2/2 at the start of the game is the best. They'll send all their hate towards that player all game and ignore everything else, same goes for curses if you're the one who played it.

I removed a good bit of player curses from my deck for that reason, it draws too much attention towards you when it's much easier to make everyone kill each other with a little instigating

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

New thread

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