There will never be female space marines

No they would not, they would sell maximum just as much as sobs, probably less.

There is no lore friendly way to explain it though, and making one up just for the sake of diversity is stupid

I doubt it.
I mean, sororitas don't even sell all that good(hence no new models).

Plus, female SM would be so fucking manly that they would look like male SM

Will the emprah become a girl if they have their way?

He's already dead spread too much faith to have his representation questioned. The Emprah is immune to accusations of sexism, for he is supreme.

Holy fuck it's really disgusting that people like that exist (assuming I'm not retarded and this is just a big false flag or whatever).

I will fight for this with all my might cause I know that if we allow femmarines, femmorkz are next.

And I dont think anyone ever should be exposed to the horror of female orks ever again.

>women
>physical labor
No. There is a reason they have lower standards for tests and shit. There's no way they could survive the process beforehand.
Peak man>peak woman

How could you argue that inserting roided up shemales into 40k will do a single good thing for the setting or the playerbase?
Cause im pretty sure 40k not having She-Hulks is not the reason why not a lot of women play it.

Would these people shut up if Sisters of Battle got plastic models? Female IG would be fine too, but why the butthurt over an all male organization?

its funny that they think GW would cater to people who dont play the game when they dont even cater to their own fanbase, especially the longterm fans

no, these people never shut up
if you cave in, they increase demands
first they want more women, then they want 50% women in every faction, then they want people of colour to be represented, then they want more trans, they want more gay characters and then we get to Mork actually being a muslim female etc etc

Must be good to be empy

The Marine process forces their dick out and rips all the stitches in the most painful way possible. The survivors are then made into Imperial Fists.

not to mention that 99% marines are wearing helmets so if these people actually were into the game, they would know they can just buy a few female heads to sprinkle on the sergeants and characters and voila

but no, they want femmarines even in fluff cause a roided up female super mutant barely human would totally bring in a new female perspective into 40k and draw in all those women who otherwise wouldnt play

Because men, even fictional ones, are no longer allowed to have purely masculine spaces. We must let the women join in, but they can totally have their own "men-free" zones.

This ignores that wouldn't really WANT to be a space marine as you're a freak of nature.

Just like trannies...

I thought it was emperor's children?

I might be more upset about this if there was an actual reason they're all male that would be ruined by having female space marines. I've heard plenty of arguments why they "have to be" male, but they don't really prove that the setting is better that way, just giving an in-universe justification for GW not wanting to buy twice the torso molds back in the day.

Thanks, Slash Gordon. In these dark times, it's good to know light still exists.

You have no proof of female marines making the setting better, and all the real world evidence of females being shit soldiers.

ok?

>female SM would be so fucking manly that they would look like male SM
Veeky Forums says otherwise

Because the Emperor said no girls allowed, they're ugly.

>You have no proof of female marines making the setting better,
Which is why I said I couldn't bring myself to care, not that they need to do this right fucking now

they're yucky, I meant

As if that has stopped the Egyptians/Ancient Hebrews/Aztecs/Jesus/Shakespeare/Hitler from being revised into blacks. Hell, Vikings are Muslim now.

>dead
But that's false, traitor

What would be the point though? Female Space Marines, from both a narrative and performance view, would operate entirely the same as any other Battle Brother. They would still be walking, talking, breathing weapons, made to kill the enemies of the Imperium. They wouldn't have any feminine qualities or values or any thoughts. So why bother having them?

You don't understand. The monkey's paw is still in effect. If we get any sort of proper Sisters support, it will be an "event." And there won't be any Female Space Marines because the update they get will make them functionally the same as Space Marines in models, crunch, and even fluff. Primaris'd Sisters. GW gets to make more Space Marines without calling them Space Marines, just like they did for the Sigmarines. Regular Sisters gradually phased out and Squatted because anything even shaped like a Space Marine pushes more models. And they'll have the same lore bullshit of Cawl finding Malcados's secret porn stash or whatever to justify it in fluff too. And even though nobody will be happy, GW will make money.

Go ahead and tell me this isn't likely. Look at what they've done so far and tell me this level GW fuckery isn't going through their heads.

>all the real world evidence of females being shit soldiers
Yeah, if you try to run them as professional soldiers with Western standards. They are as able as men in an irregular army

There's also the fact that a female analogue to the Space Marines already exist in the Sisters of Battle, so anyone who asks for this sort of shit can be disregarded as someone who knows fuck all about 40k.

>Yeah, if you try to hold them up to such high standards. Lower the standards to rabble and they are just as able as men who also weren't cut out for actual soldiering
Do you even hear yourself?

>Space Marines
>not professional soldiers with Western standards, times a million
>Space Marines
>irregular army

We're not talking about female conscripts here.

>50% women in every faction
Yes girl orkz

but they were retconned out I thought

Whenever this argument comes up I always wonder if people forget SoB exist. Themematically they're the same thing: shock troops with a religious bent. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that the reason they were fucking created by GW? To make it so that 40K wasn't just Boy's Club?

GW just needs to show SoB more love and give people a reason to roll them.

nothing like posting some crazy fringe bitch to get folks all riled up

Last time I checked Tier 1 Opperators had the same weakness to bullets as Joe Goat Farmer does. Youre talking about what? Hundreds of thousands of dollars in training and equipment with months of schooling that is just as killable as the guy with zero schooling and a $200 rifle. So, in a fire fight, the female is just as deadly as the male in the human species.

Doesn't matter.
As has already been mentioned: Culture warriors don't want to have their own thing. They see something that's male-dominated or male-only, regard that as bad and decree that it must be changed.

If people were just advocating for more SoB support then everyone would be on board. But that's not what they want.

>I've heard plenty of arguments why they "have to be" male, but they don't really prove that the setting is better that way
Calling each other "brother" and using terms like it are cooler. It's easier to have a "brotherhood" be close and have common values than have something that just any fucking person can join. If females can join the space marines, it's not an exclusive club anymore, because that means most males can now join as well.

Yes, and those T1 operators will work better in a group, have superior tactical awareness, use the terrain and the military tactics that they have learned, and thus are far more likely to both kill more enemy combatants and avoid being caught undefended. Your trash-tier person with their trash-tier rifle is going to break her wrist after a few shots and likely not understand the concept of suppressing fire, flanking, or working with a group beyond mob mentality.

Bless

We have (trash) reserves.

Why do we keep having these threads? They are pointless.
>If we stay silent, the culture warriors will dominate.
Noise doesn't matter on Veeky Forums. All some unhinged neoliberal lurker needs to do is take the worst post out-of-context, share it with his or her prideless echo-chamber of white hipsters, and they can use that as a weapon to ignore and suppress any legitimate criticism or arguments.
The best we can hope for is to either moderate ourselves and somehow make dumbass "NIGGUR JUUZ" post unpopular, or vote with our wallets if GW ends up releasing the social justice zealot's dream. If you guys have better ideas or think I'm being pessimistic, then I'm all ears, but I recommend not being caustic if you want a good chance of persuading me.

Tactics can only go so far to cover the human weakness to bullets. Because the flesh is weak.

What fucking fundamental human right do males have that women don't? The fuck is wrong with these morons? They're not fucking wartorn peasants from Ethiopa or in slavery or bondage. They have more fucking human rights than black people.

Which is why Uzbekistan is as credible as a military threat as the US.

Uzbekistan can't begin to match the US's raw military funding and logistical infrastructure.

No, you see, to them having a "right" means "the ability to have it." Like if I have the right to play in the NBA, that means I can just get in and nobody can stop me.

What the fuck is all that gonna do from stopping a bunch of farmers with guns shooting everybody?

It's a no-win situation really until businesses start taking note of how these things roll out.

Either you stay quiet and they get their way, or you object and they use it as evidence that there's an infestation of 'screaming white manbabies' and they should get their way because they have better social credit.
Voting with your wallet works, but it's bittersweet because by that point the damage is already done.

You really sure that motto will let you get ahead in life?

It would go against the central themes of the universe which are brotherhood and fatherhood, as well as being metal as crap.

For there too be a female space marine it would ruin one of the reasons I enjoy the setting and I would abandon ship.

If he had a metal head/neck he would have lived. Checkmate Chaos

>Because the flesh is weak.

Yes and men are usually a lot stronger and have a pelvis that is better suited to bear the weight of at least 70lb at any time. There was a female candidate who cracked her pelvis during training when they were carrying their maximum carry load.

Wanna run that by me again?

Maybe they're talking about 3rd world nations?
Maybe they're talking about the laws in practice rather than the laws in theory?
I don't know because it's a picture of a protestor taken out-of-context, so for all I know they could be whining about how they're being oppressed by somebody questioning the purpose of alimony.

I was hoping you would contradict me, but I would rather your honest opinion.

well then it's a good thing no one asked for it...? What's the point of this thread? Just /pol/ jerking off to nothing?

I know I'm beating a dead horse but don't these idiots read the fluff? Gene seed is priceless.

Even if you could make a female space marine they will always be physically inferior to a male space marine.

If you're going to put something that is so rare and valuable into a candidate then you would choose the best candidate... a male.

>culture warriors
nigger what
>The best we can hope for is to either moderate ourselves
nigger fuck you
>somehow make dumbass "NIGGUR JUUZ" post unpopular
nigger jew
>I recommend not being caustic if you want a good chance of persuading me.
Go sit on a throne of dicks, I don't have anything to prove to you.

The hope comes in the form of the social credit part. They're burning through goodwill like there's no tomorrow and when it's gone, it's gone.
We just have to hope it's fast enough.

You misunderstand the point entirely.

Mistakes are to be learned from. Perhaps that's why you haven't had the balls to try and finish the job. You know what'd happen.

All I'm hearing is someone proving my point.

So, no bullshit, how bad is this going to fuck up my autistic hobby?

>anyone saying no female SM cos science is a whiny bitch

As opposed to the whiny bitches whining about no female SM being...?

I like he talks about all this scientific justification then says "just increase the female's testosterone to match" when male marines already get so much testosterone they literally die from overdose, and they're the gender whose body actually readily accepts testosterone.

Your moms body readily accepted my testosterone last night. BOOSH!

>Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that the reason they were fucking created by GW?
Originally, way back in the RT lore when the Space Marines were roided up criminals, the SoB were there to hunt down marines who went rogue.

I browse this board. Not all of us are faggots

That's not even Catachan level yet.

>on Veeky Forums
>not a fag
pick one

Is anyone?

The darker skin on her head makes it look like the body is one of those Hawaii cutouts of some buff dude and she's just standing behind him.

>What fucking fundamental human right do males have that women don't?

Having Space Marine miniatures made in their image?

That's not a human right.

Put female head on space marine body?

...says the male with space marines made in your genders image.

Did you just assume my gender you Nazi?

What more do you want?

I wouldn't care if they gave the sisters of battle a lore re-work to make them more of an important force in the universe. But shoehorning in grillz to appease a niche audience is retarded. If you want girl space marines make a chapter up and model them. If you want the lore to change go fuck yourself.

>f you want girl space marines make a chapter up and model them. If you want the lore to change go fuck yourself.

In fairness, if I saw somebody with a modeled female space marine army in a game store, I'd do my best to smash the models. We don't need that sort of person in this hobby.

You'll never need to resort to such vandalism, as the kind of people clamoring for female space marines aren't also the types to just macguyver that shit themselves. That would require actual effort and imagination.

Doesn't mean it's a human right. It just makes more sense. It's always made sense in war to have the men fight the wars and the women stay behind. If that hurts your fee-fees, I'm sorry civilization has made you so soft, so sheltered, and so delusional that you're complaining there's not an equal amount of female participants and casualties in war.
Don't shitpost, don't feed the trolls.

THICC

No. This via the internet. That means you're either a male, or a female(male). I don't have to assume anything.

>What more do you want?

Equality. No faction should ever be monogendered as long as they have discernible genders (so female orks are unnecessary). With as many times as GWs changed the fluff, one more change to correct this means leas than nothing. The fluff is just words on a screen - hardly immutable, even if you don't like it.

>No faction should ever be monogendered as long as they have discernible genders

Yes! Brothers of Battle wearing power armor and bolters living monastic lives, here I come!

Yeah, and?

And hardened trench war veterans using napoleonic tactics in the age of modern combined arms here I come!

Why should no faction be mono-gendered?

The fluff is more than words on the screen, its the backdrop so that you can make your doodz feel like they are alive and operating withing a world. It makes the game an enjoyable experience.

>No faction should ever be monogendered as long as they have discernible genders

That's not how creative liberty works, faggot. People can create a monogendered faction of they want, and all you can do is stew in your safe space.

>male power fantasy
Why is this a bad thing? Why is a dude looking up to a strong, capable, masculine character a bad thing?

Because the church of Feminism demands men prostrate themselves in worship before women. Feminism has always been built on the idea of tearing down masculinity and denying men autonomy.