The Feminids cometh

So that's why we only get the trolls. Oh well, it's not like our hobby is full of playboys anyway.

If you think this hobby hasn't changed you're in for a surprise. Although I imagine a lot of people are looking at it from the outside, though.

This is the future we chose.

Female guardsmen model are totally fine but fuck off already with that female spesh muhreen bs. That shit goes against the fucking lore and should never be tolerated.

I too am terrified of women

>I honestly think the autism barrier is too high for the pop culture morality police to intrude upon.
That's why they reset the game with 8th so they could make it more accessible. I'm not saying I liked 7th, I prefer 8th to that clusterfuck, but my fucking GOD 8th is also a clusterfuck of simplified rules that leave absolutely no room for abstraction and thus becume clunky as fuck.
>you can see the tip of this gigantic model's wing even though he's behind a bulwark, therefore you can shoot him without pentalty
>you can see the entirety of this 11-foot-tall ornate-armored marshalling dude but because an 6-foot-tall random human grunt in basic clothing is in front of him a little then the human dude in olive anbd khaki drab and the giant blue-and-gold guy become indistinguishable unless you have a very specific weapon that is functionally shit at doing the job for which it was designed

>click video
>ex-gamergate twitter celebrity trying to milk 40K community for clicks
>2h30m
2deep down the rabbit hole4me, user. He's just the logical antithesis to Sarkeezian, if he didn't exist, she'd have to invent him. And he's just as uninteresting.

>something we need to keep an eye on
So, perhaps a dumb question, but what exactly happens when you keep an eye on it?

It makes sense, if you have no options, mtg or whatever hobby is a way to meet guys. not playboys like you said, but at least a potential mate. its just a shame that the divisive politics come along with it

>2h20m
>the absolute state of them comments

Fucking funny when a bunch of neckbeard whiners on the internet think they're leading the Great Culture War.

Why are we seeing a proliferation in these threads anyway? Bored of getting this angry over video games now?

Are you that dense to realise that Lore can be changed? Especially in the case of Primaris, Cawl pulled some major advancements out if his ass, why is it unfeasible that he could have created Women Marines? It's not, and to think that 'lore' is some sacred thing that is set in stone is foolish.

People see GW's recent moves and are terrified that soon we'll get, shock and horror, female models. And then the gates will be open for SJW culture to overtake 40k. Or something like that.

You still have to sit down, learn the rules from a book and spend hours to assemble and paint. On top of paying quite a substantive amount of money.

It's niche and will stay so.

We're currently in a state of having no big nerd controversy to get angry over and people are trying to find the next big gamergate or some shit because that way money lies.

That shit is hilarious bs. As if having slightly less change of heart attack offsets the fact that women are physically weaker and have less endurance than males, traits which are very important in combat situations. Men evolved to be fucking warriors of human tribes. There is a reason why we fucking differ from women physically. Space Marines are supposed to be fucking superhuman warriors so it makes complete sense to start with men who already are far better suited for combat than women are.

>Cawl pulled some major advancements out if his ass
No he just copied the Raven Guard supermarines but GW totally couldn't acknowledge this because they needed girlyman and cawl to be their special snowflake hotcake sellers.

Calling Sargon a "gamergate celebrity" is a conspicuous anachronism
its Sarkeesian btw

People are bored like said, stuff is going fairly fine for GW and /pol/ I guess.

Yeah, to be fair it does seem pretty easy to give yourself some nickname, ramble on incoherently but round on the enemy [SJWs/Alt-Right], then beg people to donate on Patreon or whatever.

Look at how elements of /pol/ will flock to any human garbage with mildly aligning views.

I just can't imagine ever wanting to participate vicariously in that.

40k will never be a gamergate thing
its too tiny and too insignificant

Yeah, but that's just buying a book and some dice. Wargaming is a separate matter entirely.

>Are you that dense to realise that Lore can be changed?
No shit the lore can be changed. The question is WHY should it be changed and HOW those changes would improve the setting.
Adding female space marines just because a bunch of intersectional feminist cunts, aka fucking cultural marxists want to claim another venue of entertainment under their stranglehold most definitely would not improve the setting. Rejecting these fucking culture warriors is of prime importance if we don't want gw to go down the road Marvel went.

The culture war moved far beyond nerds on Veeky Forums years ago.

Remember when they said comics were too much of a financial and temporal commitment?

Didn't stop the feminists from nearly collectively destroying them. Feminists and liverals don't buy this shit. They never have. That's the issue here.

40K is a super idiotic fantasy setting that throws logic and reason over board all 5 seconds and doesn't give a shit about science or even internal consistency 99% of the time.

How come you expect that they care about your clever academic points about mago-genetically mutrated men being better Superhero Warriors than genetically mutated Women? Maybe they'll give them a Primaris Tit organ that shoots fucking plasma! Or a Vagina Dentata that can detach and attack at an additional vector! Would you say that's about on par with the precious scientific accuracy of 40K?

>Imagine getting this rustled over female plastic miniatures and women.

The future is now, old man. Your Warhammer shall be assimilated into modern times where all can enjoy instead of being a club for overweight white dudes to sperg out over dice rolls in a shop that smells like paint stripper.

I know, but comics are still very easy to read. It's not a huge investment to sit down and read a comic. Now tell them to sit down, learn 300 pags of rules and then pour countless hours into building and painting little plastic models,weirdly enough there won't be many people left.

PlusGW is sensible enough I think. They gave PETA the finger, I doubt we'll get trans or female space marines. I'm all for more sisters or guarswomen, stuff like that. As long as it doesn't break the lore I'm fine.

Only Sargon tells the alt-right to fuck off at every turn. He got banned twice for tweeting them interracial porn. good to see you know what you're talking about though

>300 pags of rules
12 (+ advanced rules which are optional)

>PlusGW is sensible enough I think.

You're a funny guy. It all comes down to whether they think chasing fads will be worth it. One positive thing no one can really argue with is GW being anal about their lore.

Primaris Uterus, can birth 1d4 fully kitted Guardsmen on the battlefield per round.

Can someone explain to me why female space marines would impact negatively the game?
Hard mode: "the lore" is not a valid answer because it's all fantasy anyway.

Didn't even mention him, just a general sense of how people on either side will cling onto these people for some reason. Like that porn star or Lauren Southern raking in sweaty /pol/ donations.

Then the Codex of your faction, and associated lore, yada yada.

Really, I'm confident about it being a good barrier. As another user said, the autism barrier is high enough to stop the vast majority of people.

>forgetting papa smurf came back and made new ultramarines

it can be done

This has been a revolution that hasn't damaged the hobby at all though- all my games are oversubscribed- it's fantastic

The lore is litteraly the biggest reason. Why do some people think that all rules are meant to be broken? It's one of the biggest point of the setting.

Let's replace all jedi's lightsabers with blasters, surely that won't matter right? You don't change a pillar of a setting just satisfy a ridiculously small part of your fanbase. Fucking hell, every single woman that manifest herself here or in the shops say they don't care about representation, which is why they all play tyranids. It has the least amount of representation. Talk aboit a loud minority.

It detracts from the mechanical and aesthetic niche of the sisters. It's the same reason roks don't fall to chaos and why tyranids don't create a unit the size of Gork and just devour planets whole. Does it make sense from an in universe perspective? Sure, kinda. Would it make for a better game without unnecessarily gimping other factions? Fuck no.

>lol it's fiction we can change it however we want.

Piss off. 40k fans like 40k as it is. Nobody opposes female guardsmen models. They fit into the setting. Female space marines require a change to the setting, a change for no other reason than to please a bunch of marxists. Why on earth should we accommodate the demands of these human vermin?

>Hard mode: "the lore" is not a valid answer because it's all fantasy anyway.
Would you be okay with spaceship suddenly appearing and blasting everything from orbit in LOTR? Because it's all fantasy anyway.

Try harder with that baiting.

They'll "update" the Sisters of Battle to get some new Primaris upgrade bullshit. Not because of agendas, but because GW is lazy and knows Space Marines sell even when they're not called Space Marines. SoB are poorly supported as-is, they can pretend that this is some big "event" to show support while in actuality they're Squatting them and just making SoB-flavored not-Marines. Few people will be happy with this move. GW will make money anyway.

And your post right there is proof that this scenario is far more likely than what some dumbass are "worrying" about.

Should it ever happen (I mean we're bitching about this back and forth for like 10 years now), it'd be 2-3 Primaris models at most imo. Maybe some snowflake rules to go with them. They won't suddenly force you to feminize your entire squad in order to play tournaments. So it's just another bullshit snowflake model in a universe that never cared much for internal consistency. I couldn't care less, even if it happened.

It doesn't, and some men will be too scared to say otherwise as their fictitious board game might include some women in it.
Why when your You sustains me?

They won't upgrade sisters. Their whole ppint is to be normal women, albeit with better armor, that fight better than most thanks to their faith. Thei faith is genuinely more put into focus than the SM's faith when theyre the protagonists. No need for upgrades.

Besides, who needs SJWs to ruin 40k when GW are turning "fluff" into "main-characters-only-teleporting-around-the-universe" kind of narrative shit?

Sounds like you know a lot about these people you don't like or watch.

Not him but it's extremely hard to avoid if one can't even go on Veeky Forums without being linked to their stuff, innit?

But spaceships don't exist in the LotR world, women do in the 40k one.

my biggest gripe with this quest for female marines is that 40k already has them in theme. SoB are already the religious super soldiers they want.

But it is a fantasy so who cares?

If your problem is with content creators on YouTube and how they make their money just don't watch or donate to them problem solved

>another bullshit snowflake model in a universe that never cared much for internal consistency. I couldn't care less

Let me rephrase: The setting never cared much for consistency, so I made my own. And within that consistency, with the Primaris introduced, it'd be easy for me to fit as "Cawl was pretty much ordered to do weirdo experiments. Snowflake stuff happened."

They could introduce 1-2 Ogryn Marine snowflake models, female Marine models, even Squat Marine models for all I care, because it'd easily be rationalized as a couple outliers of an explicitly explorative weird science experiment.

And also because I don't care much about the Primaris.

You do realise there is a ship that flys into space in the Simarillion right? Also you sound like your bad argument is falling apart.

I've never really watched them but a quick google of a name you see a few times is hardly a massive research effort, is it now.

GW'll circumvent the "NO FEMALE MARINES ALLOWED" rule by having sisters get elevated instead.

And it'll be lore-friendly in a way because:-
1: they're slowly eroding the Emperor to make look incompetent and fallible, thus allowing for the disreputation of his claim that female marines are impossible
2: special snowflake characters that can do a load of cool shit despite the established lore saying that doing cool shit is basically impossible in the regressive Imperium
3: the Imperium is being made to seem less xenophobic (mostly towards Eldar, for now) so there'll be more crosscontamination of sciences meaning female marines could be likely that way
4: GW are using establishedlore to appease lorefags by simply putting what could barely be called a footnote, saying "some in the imperium were angry/suspicious by this" although it doesn't fucking matter — just look at Primaris marines being accepted by 99% of chapters; yes even the traditionalist Wolves, yes even the distrusting Dark Angels, yes even the anti-heretical (meddling with technology is heretical) Black Templars, yes even the anti-flesh Iron Hands who would have no use for elevated marines since they augment themselves with tech to achieve the same end

Yea man, fake rape accusation, court case always in favor of them, being enslaved inside your own property...

yeah. i kinda figured we'll get a bit about cawl giving his 3 new organs to the Adeptus Soriatus in their eventual codex.

it would be kinda interesting if they made their upgraded stats match the boost primaris marines get. So S4 T3 W2 and A2 instead of just more S4 T4 MEQ

What I meant is, you can't go many places without being jumped at by this debate, so those accusations of "if you don't like them how do you know weird tidbits about the whole affair" are pointless, those tidbits are the background radiation of the circles we move in.

Why do people even want female space marines? I can understand wanting female guard and new SoB but why do people want female space marines?

But female SM don't exist either.

Joke is on you, he's not me.

>Also you sound like your bad argument is falling apart.
How so? If you my argument is falling apart then his argument is also falling apart since it's the same thing. If anything you're giving me reason since you immediatly fell back on the internal consistency argument.

It entirely depends on GW. If they capitulate, even once, it's over.

I'd have said the same thing about MTG 10 years ago though... and the MTG community is swamped with SJW crap now (at least it is in my locale).

No idea man, I didn't do it. I'd rather have Sq- I mean Demiurge models.

Lore is a poor excuse to not include something, especially when the Current Lore is so elastic and malleable.

WotC is American. SJW don't have as much influence in the UK, although they're still way too present by EU standards.

I describe such a scenario because it's more likely than GW making female Space Marines. Your argument against it comes mostly from lore and people who play Sisters liking them as-is. Such people are not a very large part of the playerbase, and GW made it clear that they'll put more energy into making more things like Space Marines. We had the baby carrier Dreadknight, we had the Sigmarine Stormcast Eternals, and recently we got the "this is to loyalty even further beyond!" Primaris. GW can pretend to make people happy by not adding in female Space Marines with some these hypothetical "Primaris Sisters" while at the same time still making another faction more like Space Marines.

Plus it goes along with the retarded Codex bloat and powerlevel shit that's been pushed recently. They're bigger, stronger, better than before. Lore justification will probably be dumb anyway. Just say Cawl found Malcador's super secret porn stash or whatever.

>So S4 T3 W2 and A2 instead of just more S4 T4 MEQ
If it happens, they'd probably do something like that. Give players more reason to pick them up. Maybe with better saves.

Explain to me why a setting that is known for its lore should change one of its pillar then.

I don't know why anyone should even bother. A few female models aint gonna get women to go into a Warhammer store and be stared at by 300 pound neckbeards.

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If GW would make female space marines wound't that be literal female objectification since minis are objects?

Space marines are genetically half Clones of the primarchs

Where are the female primarchs?

GW will make one or two more woman sculpts that are bad or mediocre, then forget the whole thing after the feminists move on because they're not actually interested.

The two lost Primarchs were actually Primarchettes. Rumor in the Black Library is that Slaneesh is keeping them trapped beneath a ceiling of pure soulstone.

This. Especially since women don't really play females.

>. SJW don't have as much influence in the UK,

You fags literally have illegal opinions and charge people as criminals for having a pug Heil Hitler as a joke.

the asshurt in this thread is delicious. seek sunlight y'all. women and lgbt play your games, 50% of your shy quiet boys went tranny. Blizzard Workshop of the Coast smells a profit from your conetits she-nerds. deal /w it

you seem upset justice exists, and right and wrong exists, good sir. may i please recommend you leave and go to back to your libertarian subreddit theres a good chappy

The fact that you call that justice is all the explanation one needs when one wonders why your empire is a dead thing that can be humiliated by Krauts and Frogs. I'd pity you but you did this to yourselves.

This "geneticist" should loose any credibilit if they said people with X0 chromosones are fine. Turner syndrome is a bitch

Why would female space marines cause so much butthurt anyway?

I mean in theory they probably would look the same anyway. Just some different helmetless models.

Are you this angry over Primaris Marines and Primarchs being introduced into Warhammer? What about the Eye Of Terror increasing across half the galaxy? Cadia being destroyed? These were all 'Pillars' of 40k lore that, suprise, have changed.

Maybe its because Space Marines are inferior clones of Primarchs. And the genetic difference between men and women is too large for the geneseed to take.

Still, there's not books with 36 genders being passed in school and whatnot, the SJW crowd is obectively more present in the US, you dirty fags founded that shit.

America is the country of extremisms. It seems like you guys can't find a middle ground. Either SJWs or Nazis basically. It's baffling really.

But they weren't changed for political reasons you doofus.

Remember, people are more accepting of Wolf Space Marines then Women Space Marines.
'But my Lore! Women's anatomys are too different wa!

>Political reasons

No, they, and if female marines were introduced, were made to make money, just like everything else.

You'll have to bait better than that user.

Well they ARE a bunch of illiterate furfags.

empire was evil and the fact people still harp on about it as if it was happy sunshine world is testament to ignorance and failure of education. the british are permanently children and never accept responsibility that any brit did anything bad ever. anytime America does anything there is always some prematurely balding jug-earred fuck who comments 'hmmm yesss well maybe if you were still a colony run by us these bad things wouldn't be happening'. its a nation of smug eternal children who are inbred and ugly. if ever a nation deserved to die on its ass, user, its britain. shame on you for treating the british as people or their achievements as significant

Are you a Sargon fan who lacks awareness or just using him to start up shit? Also, isn't this like the 5th, 6th time you have posted this?