Orc Country

It's barren and desolate yet somehow supports huge populations of large, beefy people.

Open field, a place good for raising mount. Not!Genghis Khan need place of origin.

the problem is that this just isn't sustainable

there's only so many villages, and surely the orcs would get hunted down by an army or something

They've been completely exterminated on the surface, but have adapted well to life in the upper Underdark. These caves have fairly abundant water and fungal life, some Orcs live as hunter-gatherers in mushroom jungles while others graze their herds on vast fields of moss. None of them have forgotten or forgiven what has been done to their people, and the Dwarves who monitor the Deep Earth fear that it is a matter of time before a unified Orc army storms the lower gates of their fortress-cities.

Orcs. Nothing but orcs as far as the eye can see. pic unrelated

the coins in orc stain are fucked up

Orcs don't have a homeland, they only take land from others for their own.

Scythia/Mongolia pretty much.

The orc homeland is a pretty quiet place, very orderly, with a lot of attention paid to being on time to meetings and work and such. Beautiful mountains. Now the ones that colonized the islands and the far coast, those orcs are pretty bloodthirsty.

Ive no idea what im looking at.

>It's shit. They don't do agriculture, or build houses, or much of anything
Africa then.

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He's not wrong though

You seriously believe the entire continent of africa has yet to discover agriculture?

Like a Dark Ages version of Switzerland. The Orc homeland is mountainous and dense with natural obstacles. There are several large city states on the sparse plains within the region, but most Orcs live within secluded, autonomous Cantons. Each Canton maintains it's own military and governs itself independantly, only ever interacting with other Cantons or the City States to fight each other or a common foe.
Humans, Elves and Dwarves have all, at some point, attempted to invade the Orcish homelands, only to be repelled by the unparalleled natural defenses of the region.

A huge swampland dominated by ogres and all led by a human village girl as figurehead and a shadow government of dwarven jews

Didn't the Orcs originally live in forests but then the Elves kicked them out because they were repulsed that a bunch of filthy savages were living among and practicing bloody animal sacrifices within their precious trees?

So basically, any time a village is raided by Orcs it's the Elves fault?

No, there were a few white farmers until they were removed, but niggers really don't do it

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The orcs were made in the lands of the east, where the influence of the elemental plane of fire is strongest in the world. Their homelands consist of sun-baked deserts, savannahs and steppes for the most part.

They live under the rule of the Dark Elves.

As far as a matriarchal religious-military dictatorship goes it's actually not that bad. When the orcs were ruling themselves they were Mordor minus volcanoes plus Somalia. Under the rule of the Dark Elf Sisterhoods they have built a functioning civilization that feeds the masses, defends the borders, turns vast swathes of arid wasteland green, trades extensively with it's neighbours, has beautiful cities that rival any other empire, looks after the lame and the lost and is making breakthroughs in medicine.

The only thing really bad about it is that punishments for breaking the law is pretty fucking brutal. You get torn apart by wild tortoises, it is not a quick death.

but there are no jungles in the ME, or near turkey for that matter

A place where honor matters more then ones life
Samurai like

It's like they're the Europeans who never left for the new world and now like a thousand years later they've devolved into orcs.

Titan>Giant>Ogre >Troll>Orc>Goblin>

Originally a brutal frozen wasteland on the steppes, long thought to be unsurvivable by anyone besides them.
Now the northern half of the Orc/Human empire, a landscape covered in dwellings, long lonely mud roads and farmland, that feeds approximately a third of the kingdom.

A dungeon close to hell, where blood mage created them to conquer the world. Was axed by the more cunning orc warchief about 1/16way of implementing this plan.

The vast majority of orcs live in self-sufficient high-orbital space colonies orbiting the planet.
The remaining 2% or so of orcs on the planet are descendants of luddites whose souls were weighed down by Earf.

They hail from the steppes, where the sky is vast and life is harsh. Nomadic by nature, the ones who settle down tend to do so either near the mountains (where the mining is good) or by the coastal marshlands (where trade and some minor agriculture can be conducted). Most, however, keep on the move, carrying all their earthly belongings with them, raiding caravans and border towns. Armor, weapons, clothing, tattoos, tools, a steed, and accessories are thus all important social signifiers and status symbols within orc society, as they lack the notion of property beyond one's immediate personal effects. Land, such as it can be owned, and material wealth, such as it can be accumulated, belong to the tribe or horde as a unit, to be used as the chieftain sees fit. Orc religion is traditionally shamanistic, what magic they practice falling more in line with pact-making or druidcraft. Orcish cultural traditions lean heavily on music and ornate clothing. Tribes tend not to leave written records, but various members are required to memorize their tribe's personalized funeral dirge, an ever-growing list of their feats and accomplishments. If a single orc is to find his tribe, as a whole, has been wiped out, it is his duty as the last remaining member to sing the story of their history to the uncaring, open sky, before taking his own life.

There is an understanding in such a society that war is the way of things, and there is no room for grudges. Unwary travelers deserve no mercy, and fallen orcs are not to be mourned. The winners live, the losers die. There is no sense in revenge, bargaining, or petty politics on the battlefield.

>what is literally every subsaharan African civilization
>what is every niger-congo civilization that ever existed
>what are bantus

Jesus christ Veeky Forums really is bad at history.

An orc Amy invading other orcs. The biotechnologicl war machines have faces cause they're cool, orcs breed fast in the fertile tropical soil of the south. The phallic shapes are because orc culture revolves around penises.

Mountainous.
Since they are warlike and primarily survive by raiding the mountains are a fantastic place to set up camp.

Some Orc tribes have taken to the nomadic lifestyle and live on the steppes and regularly butt heads with the Centaur native there.
The Centaurs while not as dependant on raiding as the Orcs (they are primarily hunter-gatherers) do occasionally raid to sate their bloodlust and so must compete with the Orcs for prey and land.

A few Orc tribes have attempted to live in a similar fashion to the Human kingdoms, of which there are many, but all attempts so far have been shut down (violently).

And you are bad at current events.

South Africa went from being one of the most prosperous parts of the continent to being a shithole begging for food aid in less than a decade after all the white farmers got murdered or chased out of the country.

Sounds like the villages are pretty shit if these guys can't even do metal working

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The Athei Wastes are a rocky desert with plenty of groundwater and bismuth veins. Sadly the Athei also has a lot of salt so any well will only produce saltwater. Luckily there are many plants that filter out the salt and store water in fleshy, spherical sacks (actually fruit and the water inside is closer to coconut milk). Because there's no freshwater most large animals are herbivores that feed on the bulbous plants. Most of the predators are blood drinkers. Mosquitos, ticks and fleas are common as are the slime and vermin common to stagnant pools.

The orcs themselves bleed livestock and drink blood. Plantwater is seen as food for cattle and so no self respecting orc would lower themselves to drinking it (if forced to by travelling in the desert they would lie about it).

Orcs mostly trade salt and mirrors (made from bismuth) for bronze and food. They use bismuth power in religious ceremonies as it burns blue like their god Ulban, who can been seen every night travelling from west to east across the sky as a trail of blue flame.

There are still white farmers in South Africa though? The whole "white genocide" thing is a myth. You know that right? It's a meme.

Do you really believe that... what, that South Africa doesn't have agriculture now? Really? Is that what /pol/ tells you? And that the economic problems faced by South Africa have nothing to do with disinvestment in the 80s due to outrage over apartheid, or rapidly-changing economic sector, or decrease in number of farmers due to modernisation, but because... it's ruled by black people now?

What does /pol/ tell you about the fact that South Africa is actually doing better now than it ever has? Because it is. South Africa and Rwanda, due to rapid uptake of technology, efficient financial markets, and a focus on strengthening institutions, are the most competitive nations in Africa currently. And what does /pol/ tell you about the fact that South Africa was a shithole during apartheid? Because it was an unbelievable shithole unless you were white.

Sorry to break it to you, but /pol/ is wrong. Lay off the red pills for awhile buddy.

Ha' ye e'er been ta th' ool' cantra, tusklin'? Roollin' hells, es fahr as th' oiy cahn say. Repplin' gress, as hoiy as yer oiy, pell yallo agin' th' rahst-callad sod.

Kill yourself

Another thread derailed, not by /pol/ but by the "people" who see /pol/ where there is no /pol/

How is "niggers never farmed they're too stupid" not /pol/ though

Fuck off you spaz, the nig nogs did kick out the white farmers but they had to beg them to come back.
Which they did.

derailed the thread because of a rather distasteful joke.

Finally someone who can be bothered to refute /pol/tards.
I applaud you, and thank you for your service towards keeping our board educated and unwelcoming of ignorant talking point racism.

Often I feel like fighting against racists on Veeky Forums is a quixotic task.
I'm glad to see someone doing though.

They're memeing about Zimbabwe, where whites were banned from owning land a few years ago so all the white farmers (who weren't murdered by niggers) moved out and there was a massive food shortage which still persists today.

Stop being so assblasted, you rectally ruined goblin muncher and learn to take a joke.

They, in fact, did not.

You are aware that most farmers in South Africa are in fact black, right? South Africans are a very small minority, just like they've always been. Except now they don't rule the country.

*Boers are a very small minority

l always liked the Warcraft version where the Orcs fuck up their homeland so bad they have to leave. So kind of like Africa or India

white farmers were kicked out of east africa, resulting in a food crisis

someone who can't handle that is trying to talk about how great south africa is as a smokescreen

White genocide is actually, literally happening right now in South Africa. Like it's an officially classified phenomena. You should do your research.

>He said with no sources

ITT: Africa is one country

Oh I get it, you're quoting Trump tweets. I thought it was from /pol/ but I recognize that from one of Trump's tweets (which he also pulled out of his ass).

>Like it's an officially classified phenomena.

I'm afraid that's quite simply not true.

They, in fact, did.
Resulting in a food crisis and the ooga boogas begging the whites to come back.

just wait, he'll be back in a moment with something from stormfront or some other retarded publication with an article that barely holds up to a spellcheck, let alone a peer review.

Sorry hon, but I deal in fact facts, not alternative facts. Sorry if that's fake news to you or whatever.

Hey user, google "Zimbabwe farmers" and tell me what you see. Because I see news articles from all over the place about white farmers being murdered, food shortages and Genocide Watch declaring what is happening to whites being a Stage 5 Case.

>yet another thread about orcs derailed by complaining about niggers

Why are /pol/tards so creatively bankrupt?

Zimbabwe and South Africa are different countries. And Zimbabwe being a shithole has nothing to do with genetics or black people being inferior or whatever but with Mugabe being a lunatic and running the country into the ground. And also during Rhodesia, the farms were all run by whites so the native Shona have little experience running farms.

Of course, the region had had farming since antiquity. I mean, just looking at the word for the Zimbabwean genocide (gukurahundi, which in Shona means something like "the early rain which washes away the chaff (as in grain chaff) before the spring rain)" should make that obvious. I mean just ask yourself, why would a people who had no native concept of farming have a specific word like that? Anyway, the ancient farming economy got disrupted by white colonisation, and now modern living Shona have little to no experience farming.

Zimbabwe isnt south africa tho

You can be an ass all you want but that doesn't make your right.
washingtonpost.com/world/africa/zimbabwe-seized-white-farmers-land-now-some-are-being-invited-back/2015/09/14/456f66d6-45d2-11e5-9f53-d1e3ddfd0cda_story.html?utm_term=.d7f3884dc7d0
washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/13/robert-mugabe-threatens-zimbabwes-white-farmers-wi/
I'm sure there are more but you'll probably just bluster and call me a racist and say my news is fake.

Little slow on the draw there buddy. Consider the two posts above yours responses to this post.

>Zimbabwe is South Africa
>Being this American

Zimbabwe is south Africa it's not South Africa. It's an easy confusion to make.

I never said it was. I specifically said it was East Africa, not South, were whites were being killed and the food shortages were. Saying "Trueman never killed any Jews" doesn't change the fact Hitler did, and saying things in South Africa are fine doesn't excuse or erase what is happening in East Africa.

Just because some user said south when he should has said east doesn't change that either.

It's very southern, so it's quite hot most of the year round, but there's a big stream of cold air forced through a wide break between two mountain passes on the mainland, so they can occasionally get some snow if the weather is right; it's not really yearly though like it is on most of the continent.

It's often considered one of the most beautiful places in the world, since it has a lot of natural wonders. It's one of the largest islands, and the actual largest, Frostlocke, isn't anywhere near the equator (obviously), so Porcia is a prime region to find barrier reefs and other places where coral likes to congregate. They have a shitload of fish because the water is warm and there's quite a lot of sheltered bays for when the monsoons come to town.

There's a small mountain range in the center of the island which helps make more rain - Porcia is pretty flat, so if they didn't have that they'd be a desert. However the uncommon rains and poor drainage combine to create a weird sort of mix between a forest and a swamp - after it rains, water tends to gather in pools, where it stays until it's drunk or evaporates and goes away, at which point it's generally pretty dry until another well-timed gust of wind hits the mountains.

This means the wildlife is pretty adaptable. Regions can oscillate pretty quickly between swampland and dry forest, so the trees tend to be coniferous and the plants have a lot of other adaptations to handle rapid salinization and drought. The animals are vibrantly colored, especially on the main island where they don't have direct contact with mainland species. But all in all, the biodiversity is colorful but relatively sparse compared to places like woodmother.

It's still beautiful though, especially right after it rains. And orcish cities tend to also be full of bright colors, since they have access to a lot of vibrant dyes right off the shore and in the forests. They usually paint their paper walls bright greens, reds, and blues.

Orcs, goblins, hobgoblins, bugbears, trolls, ogres and the like have been present in humanity through the akashic records of the libraries of the old world regardless of location or time, though their origin has never been explained. As they never developed more than rudimentary languages with a bare few hundred words, each largely unique to local tribes, and have technologically only advanced as far as to understand the basics of working with wood, bone and rock they have no history of their own with which to elucidate mankind. Even in attempts by scholars to communicate with their kind, all that has come to be known is that many tribes of their ilk consider all their forms to be of one mold, that humanity - and furthermore the elf-kin of the sister plane - are devils to be destroyed, and that it is universal amongst tribes, even those with no communication, to think might amongst their own is the sole virtue to which one can aspire, with no concept of crime beyond being too weak to stop anyone who dislikes what you do, punished simply by death at the hands of your enemies. Perhaps in some unknown future this might advance to a code of law, but there is no known uniformity of what does or does not upset their kind to solidify the agreement that any one particular act, save not being of their races, is wrong.

It can only be speculated that whatever drove humanity to reside in all corners of our great island also drove their myriad races to follow.

Right, I guess I assumed you were the other user. Yeah, the Zimbabwe situation is terrible. I'm not denying that, or that genocide happened. Mugabe is like a cartoon villain, and that's what makes him so horrifying.

Anyway this'll be my last post on the subject. This derail has gone on long enough.

It was mostly taken over by pillaging humans years and years ago, and the last few surviving orcs have been pushed onto tiny little ancestral lands (usually sacred sites of one type or another) that they fiercely defend.

Stinky

LESS POL, MORE ORCS

LOOK AT THIS SMUG-LOOKING MOTHERFUCKER

BET YOU THOUGHT ALL ORCS WERE DUMB AS SHIT, NOT THIS BITCH

WIZARD GRAD WITH STUDENT LOANS

THIS HERE'S THE REAL MUSCLE WIZARD

SURVIVE THE FIREBALL, HE'LL BEAT YOUR CANDY ASS

STILL STANDING WITH 1 HP

THIS POST IS STUPID AS SHIT BUT IT'S STILL BETTER THAN EVERY POST IN THIS THREAD NOT TALKING ABOUT ORCS

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Orcish civilization, such as it is, is a relatively recent phenomenon that borrows from their more eastern and agrigarian brothers on the mainland. These eastern orcs (The Taifei and Dong Han, in particular) were originally raiders from the old orcish kingdoms who were impressed by the wealth of the settled peoples and eventually settled in the lands they raided.

Hinata Hisoka changed this, uniting the diseparate orcish tribes and forcing them to settle and begin agriculture, citing the recent victory of the mainland civilizations as signs that the orcs were growing weaker. He's now hailed as a national hero, and is most likely responsible for the birth of the Silk Lane and thus the coming of the Areonetian Renaissance.

Once settled, the orcs began to work what they were good at - the dry wood of their forests. This wood makes up the vast majority of their buildings, as the walls are made of wooden poles with large sheets of dyed paper between them. They're made to be largely replacable, so if a monsoon destroys a town it can be rebuilt within weeks. The central mountiains provide some iron, but their roughness and the lack of orcish skill at stoneworking means that iron deposits are difficult to reach, so most orcish homes are built using wooden studs rather than iron nails like human or elvish houses. However the orcs do take after the elves in building more upward, with the majority of buildings even in rural areas being two or even three stories tall. Larger buildings have been constructed out of cobblestone, but these are usually the domain of rich orcish nobility who want to show off their wealth by importing foreign stoneworkers.

Orcish culture holds self-control to be the highest virtue, in direct contrast to the previous orcish civilizations who embraced the natural berserker state orcs can accomplish. Instead, the newer orcish civilization craves "beauty" in everything one does, and this can be enforced with an iron fist.

Orcs originally came from what is essentially Russia in my setting. A cold, barren tundra/steppe with the odd mountain here and forest there. Like humans and goblins, orcs have migrated and settled all over the world. So you'll find orcs in deserts and jungles on the other side of the planet, just like humans.

>The entire continent of Africa is represented by Zimbabwe
That's like saying North America is represented by the worst parts of Mexico.

There's plenty of prospering areas of Africa, you just don't hear about them because it makes for shitty news to say "Oh hey, Mali/Chad/Niger/Bobanaduk seems to be doing pretty well!"

Casual racism and the word "nigger" have existed on Veeky Forums long before /pol/ was made, you delusional newfag.

My take on this is that you don't have an understanding of African countries and their history and how they ended up the way they are now beyond memes.

Mugabe is evil, and he has ruined that country, I will agree to that much.

Keep you shitty racist jokes and opinions in your containment board.

Except it used to be slightly different from just a general expression for black people though.

Nigger used to be a term used to delinate between a "Black guy" who was middle class, an "african American", who was upper-class and intelligent, and ghetto trash.

Now it just refers to anyone with a shade of skin darker than porcelain.

I'm getting a Chinese vibe from your orcs (one Japanese name aside). Interesting, I don't think I've seen that.

Blasted, barren wasteland, the places no one else will go, and no good thing will grow. There, they live an existence of constant suffering, which they inflict on others as a form of catharsis.

Wherever they go, even in lands that have never heard of them, they are driven away from any resource that might alleviate their wretched lot.

Orcs are a people so convinced that they will never be accepted, that they will never be happy, that they will never be a part of this world, that they rarely get it in their heads to try. When they do, it goes about as well as you might expect.

>invade a people's land
>tear apart their subsistence farming, force them to grow cash crops and work in mines for the brand-new paper money that means nothing to their cultural context
>force their infrastructure and continued survival to rely on anything but growing their own food and living as they used to
>force them into massive debt
>be surprised when they can't grow food anymore without defaulting on their debts

Swamps and wetlands in general

Not civilisation. Kingdoms do not imply in civilisation

>Bantus lived in SA before white farmers

It's not that hard to google the most basic and known socio-political things that are happening around the world in times of universal internet access. You yourself could look something up iif you don't believe it. Just shouting haha he diddn't show me anything just makes you look stupid when everyone else knowns whats happening.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_farm_attacks
ecosia.org/search?q=white farmer south africa

No but it is what happened in Zimbabwe

It's meant to be pseudo-Japanese, but yeah, thanks.

I got there because orcs are usually given some sort of natural inclination to be high END and STR, but low AC. Which would be kinda terrible once they come up on proper armor in any semi-realistic universe. So I tried to think about what they might do once they realized being tribal nomads trying to raid heavily armored fuckers sucked, and I realized it'd be a great excuse to give them a sort of japanese vibe which would be unique and make sense in-universe.

It also means that my setting can have orcish ninja fighting elvish pirates on magical ironclads, which just sounds metal as fuck, and if we can justify it all the better.

I did similar things to dwarves. Rather than just have them be their usual cave-dwelling selves, I asked what might actually, realistically drive them to build cities underground, since that's super work-heavy for not really much gain. The answer was super-mongols. Lots and lots of super-mongols. So I made them Russian (also comes with convenient myths about forests being bad places, and vodka abuse, which is very dwarfy). Although the majority of them still live on the surface - I forwent an underdark and they do need to farm still.

That would be a nice narrative if you didn't understand that the Black people in SA are also immigrants not from the region too.

If they're horse nomads then they could rely on trade/theft interactions with towns for their manufactured goods, like the Mongols or whatever. But they could just be settled people, with metalworking and whatnot, who live in a shitty place where you can't grow much crops so you end up fighting over cows/goats with your neighbors.

Just a bunch of a clannish, constantly warring pastoralists living in some rocky highlands with their incomprehensible accents. But then you just have dwarves, don't you?

A mix of Mongolia and Thailand, Thai for the mythology and ghosts

So, they are an entire race of uber-Nihilists then? Sounds incredibly depressing user.

Heres a thought.

Orcs always wanna be top orc so you always have the orcs who aren't top orcs leaving to go found new orc colonies elsewhere. Being tough and laconic, culturally unwilling to fear death even when they really should, they're willing to move to frozen shitpiles and desert hellscapes just to not be under the thumb of human kings or orc chiefs and what have you. Orc settlements tend to be small frontier outposts and can be found all over the world in all types of environments. This sort of Viking expansion thing is also why you have orcish soldiers working for evil human overlords as mercenaries or elite guards and orcs here and there leading goblin bandit groups and other typical greenskin mountain clans.

Even though goblins will literally slit your throat in your sleep or poison your food, orcs refuse to be afraid of goblins, because orcs refuse to rely on civilization. Doesn't mean they don't, and plenty of orcs do get bushwhacked when their reign becomes loose enough for a goblin to work up the courage to frag them, but it also means a fair number of orcs live off the land like survivalists and are always prepared.