Just finished The Dirty Mary Sue Dozen. Is Dark Imperium as bad as this? Or the Cadia Novel?

Ulrik the Slayer vs Kharn would be a good fight.

No one likes Space Wolves.

can see Ulrik getting smashed... but then again, Arjac Rockfist + Grimnar vs Kharn?

Ulrik got a Standing Salute from Angron during Armageddon though after he smashed the fuck out of several of his Marine Champions.

I'd say Ulrik has a pretty good chance because thrashing Khorne followers is what he does.

fuck. Did not know. Is that in a book or codex?

Old Lore, in most Wolf codexes.

First War for Armageddon When Angron gathered a huge fucking Chaos Host and it took both the full might of the Spess Wulfs and the Grey Knightos to finally get them to fuck off.

Grimnar was a greenhorn Great Wolf and he took on like 3 bloodthristers to give the Grey Knight Grandmaster enough time to banish Angron and the rest of his 8 Bloodthrister Bodyguard.

Grimnar then had a falling out with said Grand Master and took his head off with a Not!Khornate Axe.

But Ulrik pretty much waded through every Chaos Marine that went up against him, enough to get a salute from Angron.

For more minor characters Tyberos the Red Wake vs Asterion Moloc is a fight I really want to see.

>Space Wolf killing a Grey Knight

Now I really hate those fucks.

Why?

Grey knights are pretty good fighters, but they're not exactly the best at Marine Marine confrontations.

While Space Wolves are. And Grimnar is probably one of the best 1v1 fighters in the setting.

Also Khorne really enjoys letting him fuck people over.

man i hate the art of gw nowadays...

>Khorne assaults hive city by ramming Hellbringer light cruiser into the side of it. Somehow, there's enough chaos on board to disembark and fight, and the hive city is still standing.

You retarded piece of shit. Celestine did not go toe to toe with Abaddon. She went with more sets of toes against his toe. It's said that she alone was no match for Abaddon. She needed her two bodyguards to make the fight even.

As for Kharn, Abaddon (who was holding back the entire fight) demolished Kharn utterly.

So that leaves Celestine was the weakest of the three combatants. The Emperor's own avatar and the Last of the Living Saints couldn't beat the chmapions of Chaos nor given them a decent fight.

Calm down Carnac. Nobody reads the Fanfiction Black Library shit.

Creed and depowered Celestine managed to smack Abbadon enough for him to run away.

Except you supposedly read it and discussing, you lying piece of shit. If you are not, then why are you here? Get out.

All Celestine did was backstab Abaddon while he was torturing Creed and then flee, and it wasn't that what forced him to retreat. It was the swarming Cadians and the Pylon chocking out the remaining Warp. And that does not distract from the fact that Celestine is a weakling who could never beat Abaddon in a straight fight with or without her powers. Heck, even in the novel, It's said the Celestine stood no chance at beating Kharn.

Is this...the power of the emperor? Laughable.

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Not because he was able to beat him, but because the fight happened in the first place. Dogman should have followed the lead of the GK.

Are you guys just going to spout memes and measure imaginary characters dick size?

I for one like the book. Author managed to keep the AL chaotic but still a bit ambiguous. Any follow up xould be interesting, even though the leader is now well and truely into Chaos' grasp, so can't get any real salvation, and will only get one by sacrificing himself or something.

Sorry, I really don't pay attention to secondary canon from BL Chaos-wankery.

Kharn has become a meme, and Abbadon has always been such a meme.

It's like how you constantly harp up Khayon or whoever he is, but as a footnote he's literally nothing.

Celestine isn't some super Daemon level mega warrior, Living saints never are.

But Abbadon still never managed to kill Celestine, despite TWO additional Seraphim with swords.

So yeah, the GRAND MASTER OF ALL CHAOS WITH THE ABSOLUTE BLESSING OF CHAOS WITH A THOUSAND YEARS OF EXPERIENCE

Only just managed to defeat three floating Nuns.

>GK goes on a purging spree
>SW don't like that

You do know the GK Grandmaster struck first?

Talk shit, get hit,

Underrated post

>assaults hive city by ramming hellbringer light cruiser into the side of it

in fairness the sheer awesomeness of that situation makes up for how little sense it makes

the others though...

kek

Also, if you've read the Emperors Gift, you'd be aware that the Grey Knights had sworn, on their word, not to purge the Guardsmen who had not been present at the final battle, or the civilians at the Southern Hives that never got involved in the fighting. The moment that the Inquisition had stormtroopers on the ground, they broke this word, and the Grey Knights helped. The Grey Knights then began shooting at Space Wolf ships trying to escort troop transports. The Space Wolves escorted several out, so the Inquisition began hunting down transports outside of Armageddon. This involved blowing up relay stations with millions innocent civilians. Then the Space Wolves called a truce, to negotiate. The Grey knights tried to arrest the Space Wolves, after shooting and crippling Grimnirs ship before the Space Wolves could retaliate. So in fairness, the Space Wolves were fully justified in their actions

Well, that only matters if you somehow think fighting over the galaxy will be decided by a long chain of 1v1 duels. Abbadon can't afford to frontline general all the time or someone will shove a cyclonic torpedo down his throat and bang goes the black crusade. Hell, no idea why the Imperium couldn't rig Cadia to detonate when they knew it was going down, they could have wiped out a hell of a lot of stuff.

I think this is the problem with Kharn and co in general. Sure, they're fast and tough and protected by the gods, but there's enough building-levelling artillery on the planet that sooner or later, these icons are going to drop like flies.

>Space Wolves turn Thousand Sons to Chaos
>Space Wolves release potentially millions of corrupted men and women into the greater galaxy
Truly Chaos has few if any greater servants.

Really? The Space Wolves say, lets not kill billions of people with no chance of chaos corruption any higher than any other member of the Imperium, and the Inquisition, whose opening negotiation gambit was "Give us Angrons ship, we want to investigate it!" are in the right?

Also, Thousand Sons had already been claimed by Tzeentch before the Burning, or did you forget Magnus making a deal with Tzeentch to save his legion?

>Kill people thousands of miles away from the chaos threat, with no signs of chaos corrupt
>While the Inquistion were busy looting the chaos things in the first place.

It's like fucking comics now. What have they done to my 40k?

Pretty much. It's "we're sure to win because our skills are superior" for Chaos, to which nobody ever seems to reply with "Mate, have you got ANY idea how big a fucking planet is?" You only have a few thousand ships full of random cultists to screen you, the Admech and the Guard have actual armies and they're going to fuck you up with Exterminatus and Ordinatus Minoris before you've chopped apart the first Legiones Skitarii.

Same applies to the Space Marine Legions and the Primarchs. 2 million guy, even Marines, is still a pretty small number for a Hive or Forge World, let alone half the galaxy.

>30 Alpha Legion murder 200 Emperor's Children in an ambush (fair enough)

It is not fair enough.
At all. Why did you think it was?

The difference between numbers are too great and EC are not some syrians rebels with ak's

>Khorne assaults hive city by ramming Hellbringer light cruiser

Yes, because come on , ancient starships have huge sales in the eye of terror all the time. Lets just waste it. We will buy another one next month.

>Sorry, I really don't pay attention to secondary canon from BL Chaos-wankery.

Either you are a chickenshit being so afraid of me you have to lie or you are here for shitpostting. Either way you are a bitch.

>secondary canon

Nice opinion you got there.

>It's like how you constantly harp up Khayon or whoever he is, but as a footnote he's literally nothing.

Irrelevant to the conversation

>Celestine isn't some super Daemon level mega warrior, Living saints never are.

Except for the fact that Celestine was shown to match daemon princes and her mere presence causes some daemons even greater daemons to combust.

I like how you respond to my lore citation with lies and omissions. Like how you lied about Celestine's powerlvl and omitted the fact that her bodyguard are practically immortal. Healing all wounds and even raising from the dead as much as Celestine wishes. So we can at least a daemon prince level character alongside two holy immortal warriors standing before Abaddon and they can barely hold him off.

The book is just the start of the Alpha Legion redemption arc. There is another book coming.

>Alpha legionnaire Occam the Untrue leads his warband out of its hunting grounds in the Maelstrom on an epic quest for salvation, not just for himself, but for his whole Legion.

>In the hostile universe of the 41st millennium, where allegiances are ever fickle, few of the Emperors sons are more difficult to understand or predict than the Alpha Legion. Branded traitor since the Heresy, their motives and actions have always been shrouded in mystery. Alpha Legionnaire Occam the Untrue leads his warband out of its hunting grounds in the Maelstrom on an epic quest for salvation, not just for himself, but for his whole Legion. With the forces of the Inquisition snapping at their heels, Occam and his followers must use all their guile and considerable martial prowess as they make their way to the cold heart of the galaxy, to a confrontation that no one, least of all Occam himself, could have foreseen.

>I for one like the book.

OP Here. I have no problem with anyone liking the book. My biggest complaint more than anything was the obscene amount of plot armour the guys seemed to carry. Had this have been Phal'kir surviving at the end, or a pair of marines to carry the memory, fine. Just... fucking hell it was like the beach scene in Rogue One for levels of plot armour.

>Occam

Come on now.

In her defense, Celestine just got finished defeating a Keeper of Secrets and a bunch of other Slaanesh daemons before fighting Kharn. She was likely exhausted by that point.

The rest of this book is trash. That sounds awesome. Big tits on a fat girl are still nice OP.

And Kharn had been fighting all day long and was involved in two crashes (ship crash and train crash).