Tonight, Taliesin Jaffe gets behind the DM Screen to run a multi-part One-Shot in the world of Vampires: The Masquerade (Based on the World of Darkness system)
Players: None Announced (I'd guess Liam and possibly Satine Phoenix)
Other CR News: >Matt and Marisha are getting married on Saturday (Taliesin will be officiating) >There will be an extended Talks Machina Campaign Wrap-up Q&A and the Level 20 battle Royale after Matt & Marisha come back >Time permitting Laura and Sam both want to run a One-Shot during the break >New Campaign in the new year
Interesting Things from Talks Machina: >Liam DESPERATELY wanted a happy ending for Vax, but was happy his arc got a fitting conclusion >If VM would have gotten feisty with the Raven Queen she was going to shut them the fuck down and tell them they are nothing and everything they accomplished was nothing more than Divine Intervention from the Gods solely for their own Divine Machinations >Percy came so fucking close to using the contract, it would have likely cost him his soul and cost Keyleth her life (He was going to ask for Vax to live till Keyleth's natural death, which would have happened but Keyleth would have gotten sick and died very soon after the deal) >Talisen made up everything else on the fly in the moment (Including "I miss my family"/the clocktower) because he was planning on burning his character down but had a change of heart during the dialogue with Vex >Sam probably could have at least stalled Vax dying/made a decent deal if he would have had his Wish >Liam is picking Sam's Class/Race again just like he did for this game
I'm ambivalent about CR. On one hand, there are moments where their RP is amazing - character interplay is deep and not metagamey in the slightest, with great chemistry between the PCs. Mercer is amazing when it comes to fleshing out NPCs through acting and usually makes good spontaneous judgements that help rather than hinder story flow and fun (although he should have let Grog die when he drew Void - missed the perfect ending for him there). On the other hand, you really wouldn't be able to tell that these people have been playing for several years now. They make beginner mistakes all the fucking time, don't know their spells, don't know their rules and so forth. Some obvious ones are particularly bad at this. And sometimes, they milk dramatic scenes so goddamn hard that it starts feeling forced and cringy.
Caleb Nelson
I feel the same way, but I find it easy to look past the mistakes.
I think some of them could really use some spell cards/better materials (Ashley since she wasn't around often, and Marisha, who is seemly pretty intelligent in real life but devoid of any strategy/understanding in game sometimes). It gets so bad that sometimes I wonder if she is meta-RPing as Keyleth as I've seen her play other classes with little to no problems. Hopefully it's just a case of Druid not being the right fit for her (as she seems to do well with less strategic classes). Liam needed a better breakdown between Sneak Attack/Surprise Attack as well
Either way I don't understand the vitrol people shove into the show/the players. Between Broomgate (Which was retarded cause it was COMPLETELY in character and Vex had been slipping alignment forever), the Kevdak fight(which made perfect sense), and the Kraken people need to learn not to take it so seriously. Fuck I'd play with any one of them. Sure sometimes they fuck up/get cringy/ect but they are passionate as fuck and all truly love playing the game.which is important above all else imo.
Xavier Torres
guy on the top left looks like he's already becoming a beast
Luis Hill
This is either going to be the cringiest shit or fucking kino
DO NOT talk that was of the best damn Bard around
Daniel Gomez
God I hope it's good
Elijah Cook
>Talisen made up everything else on the fly in the moment (Including "I miss my family"/the clocktower) because he was planning on burning his character down but had a change of heart during the dialogue with Vex
It wasn't just that. Taliesin had based Percy upon a character in a short story he wrote a long time ago and was struggling to find a fitting ending for him that didn't result in him burning the character down.
He was panicking and struggling to find a "happy" resolution to him and it was only after re-reading his original short story that he remembered the whole, "I think I wanted to be a clockmaker" line and at damn near the last second was able to find a resolution for him. Taliesin described it on Talks Machina like this (with some paraphrasing):
"For Percy, he was just the normal guy left to die in a jail cell, and he's trying to make peace with that and the death of his family, and then suddenly BOOM, there's dwarves and elves and they go, 'come with us,' and he just latched on for the ride, not once actually thinking about what happened to his family and him. And in that moment, when he sees Vax get taken away, it's another one of his family that dies in front of him, and he suddenly realizes he never truly resolved his feelings and emotions about losing his family at the hands of the Briarwoods. And it's only at the end, sitting on that ledge with the devil's contract in hand, that he's starting to realize that fact."
In my eyes/opinion, what pulls him back from that edge of the abyss (both literal and figurative) is Vex, who is also grieving with him, and her pain is just as great if not more-so, because she lost her brother and someone she's known literally her whole life, and is just a wreck emotionally but knows that she can get through it together with this adopted family she's made with the rest of VM, along with the help of Percy.
Colton Thomas
I'm also expecting tonight's episode to be so bad/hoakey it does a full 180 and becomes good.
> They're all coming off an emotional 4-5 year journey with their last characters in the last campaign
> They're starting to get emotional again as Matt and Marisha are getting married in less that 48 hours
> Taliesin is GMing a game system he hasn't touched in at least a decade and no one else has experience with
> Said game system is 100% pure emo goth late 90's, early 2000s
> It's getting close to Halloween, and this one-shot might provide the cast an excuse to break out the goth, emo, lolita garb that I'm sure they have access to
It's going to be a fucking train wreck and I can't wait. Also, the picture is Laura and Travis dressed up as the Briarwoods for a prior episode that aired around Halloween a year or two ago, to give you an idea of how much they might get into it.
Samuel Johnson
Official critical role tier list
>BASED TIER Sam Travis
>SECRETLY BASED TIER Liam
>MEH TIER Mercer Ashley
>YOU'RE BORING ME NOW TIER Laura Orion
>GO HOME AND DIE TIER pretty much every guest star, especially Patrick fucking Rothfuss and Wil XDton Talesin Marisha
Michael White
swap Talesin and Orion and you MIGHT be accurate.
Caleb Edwards
According to Reddit (so shoot me it's the only decent place to get news for CR) Liam confirmed on one of the other shows today that it is a mini campaign, not a one-shot.
Lincoln Campbell
REDDIT is a perfectly acceptable website to browse as long as you are aware of the implicit culture of the userbase and know how to avoid getting sucked into its shitness, furthermore the belief that it's somehow wrong to use two different websites to shitpost random stuff is asinine and a pretty annoying habit tbqh famalam REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Jack Long
Hardwick was fucking awesome and meshed well with the cast without stealing the spotlight. Literally the perfect guest star. He deserves his own placement imo
Isaiah Watson
This shit is insufferable.
Colton Fisher
The list is very different if you base it on characters rather than players. Orion is absolutely terrible as a player but Tiberius was a decent character.
Laura is more or less the same. She metagames a TON but she roleplays Vex really well.
Matthew Reed
>perfect guest star >not Perkins
Tyler Ross
Of all the one/two shot guests I think the best was unironically Felicia Day. She was a bit over the top at first, but once she got comfortable she meshed perfectly with the cast and it was quite an enjoyable two parter.
Grayson Reed
Perkins was good but wasn't memorable enough in his role imo.
Guest stars have a difficult job. They have to show up in a well-established game and be interesting enough for the party to want to interact with them but not TOO interesting/powerful or else they come off as a Mary Sue.
In Perkins' case he was such a background character that we really had no reason to want to see more of him (her).
Dominic Lewis
I wanna get into this show but the 3 hour episodes are a little bit of a scary format to sit there and watch. Will I miss much if I listen to them akin to a podcast?
Aiden Sanders
they've been steadily adding them in podcast form and it works just fine to get into the show.
Justin Ortiz
You'll miss a little of the fun but nothing too important. Sometimes Mercer will unveil a cool battle map or Sam will pantomime something but otherwise you'll get the full effect
Isaac Collins
I'm glad I'll finally be able to get into this new campaign without going through 400 hours of past content.
Charles Taylor
hearing talesin speak makes me want to slit my throat
Oliver Williams
thats because it takes him 4 tries to finish a sentence
Carson Ward
Generally speaking most of the visual pantomime moments occur when Sam and Travis are off doing stuff together.
And speaking of Sam and Travis, did anyone get #2 of the origins comic? If so, how is it? I read the first one and it was passable.
Julian Nguyen
I liked the second a lot more. Had a lot of Scanlan action.
David Allen
I enjoy it, outside Marisha and combat. Combat they're generally OP as fuck due to items from when they were playing PF, and deal a ton of damage. Then every time someone gets hit for 15 "OH NO, THAT MUCH?!"
Ashley is fine, but doesn't know her class. I'd imagine part of that was a massive time out, not that long after coming across from PF. Marisha, though, doesn't know her spells, doesn't know half her abilities, meta-games, her RP is annoying as fuck and can't let anything go by without involving her, if not starring her.
Josiah Morales
ego-wise i imagine she has the most to prove out of all of the cast. She is the least successful when it comes to acting. Very likely a failed actress/model that now works for G&S. Imagine being surrounded by some of the most successful people in the VA industry and having to show up and Act every thursday. She probably reaches for attention more often to make up more her lack of talent
Eli Evans
I've been ripping the audio and listening while exercising, and it's fine. I miss a couple gags an episode at most, really, and their combat is the weak part anyway so no map doesn't really matter.
Jordan Kelly
Marisha's biggest problem (Other than not knowing her spells) is that she was "leader" of the group. It makes no fucking sense for the naive, shy, socially awkward character to be the leader, no matter how important her backstory is.
Also I agree she probably feels like she has a lot to prove. Other than the things you mentioned she is also the DM's (soon the be) wife, so she probably feels like she needs to be great in order to keep people from criticizing her for it.
I'm hoping a character change does her well. She was WAYY better in the one-shots she has done, so heres hoping.
Liam Campbell
Scanlan used to be the leader of the group, sort of. Honestly, though? I'm hoping Travis or Sam take up a leadership role in the next game.
Cooper Lee
Hardwick is an annoying shit and im glad matt slapped him down in the force grey series
liam is an annoying over-actor with anger management issues
orion as a cunt
marisha is either very stupid or very lazy
wheton is a cuck
everyone else is fine. sam, matt, travis, and laura are god tier
Christopher Evans
Tfw I don't hate Marisha. I'm usually a rules nazi too, but I think CR is 100x more enjoyable when they bend things (on occasion) for the plot. Other than that I think she just gets too nervous and doesn't think out her action enough, so when it comes to her turn she has a thousand options that do specific things but in her haste she kind of neglects the specifics. Her RP shit is whatever, some people enjoyed her and Liam (I didn't), but whatever I haven't watched the Vecna fight back (for the infamous ignoring Sam telling her about the concentration) but I could imagine it would be easy to not hear/think he was talking to someone else. I'm not saying she did or didn't do it on purpose, I just don't know, and desu it seems like no one cares except her critics and rules nazis. I could go the rest of my life without another Keyleth drunk scene though
Landon Campbell
she very much needs to play a dumb barbarian or something simple. She isn't strong tactically or roleplay wise so "run up and hit stuff" is definitely where she needs to stay.
It sounds like she is really into Monk though, which is another high WIS class. Once again, this directly contradicts what she is capable of mentally so I'm kinda worried.
Also I don't think Keyleth was ever seen as the leader of the group. She was the leader of her people (the Air Nation or whatever) but not Vox Machina.
Scanlan was the face of the party (high CHA + Sam being an awesome roleplayer) but he was never leader of VM. He would occasionally joke about being the leader but it was pretty obvious that he wasn't being serious.
Jackson Hill
At least if she plays Monk it will answer the argument of whether she was RPing Keyleth to be dumb or if she isn't great at DnD.
The biggest issue I had was that she was high WIS, but her character was super anxious, naive, and had no self confidence. IMO these two things CAN NEVER EVER pair together correctly because someone with high WIS would NEVER lack all those quantities(some of them sure, but not all). It honestly seems like they made her character for a one shot (Thus never thinking about the eventually high as fuck WIS) and then when it became a campaign she stayed true to her character instead of adapting.
Sebastian Watson
Where the fuck did the "Marisha is smart" meme begin?
Bentley Price
dm ranking so far
Matt > Liam > Sam
let's see how tal does
Jeremiah Allen
is it meant to be ironic?
Chase Sanders
I think you're right, but at any point in the ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN EPISODES they played they could have done a serious pivot on Keyleth as a character. Character growth is important for any successful story and Keyleth was dumb the whole way through, no matter how much she went through.
She had every opportunity to take the naive, kind-hearted girl and turn her into the badass leader hardened by years of fighting and loss, Now wise to what the world truly is.
We didn't get that. Instead she focused on the "MY BOYFRIEND IS DEAD" story. Actors aren't writers I guess.
Robert Scott
its VtM so hes automatically at the bottom for taste alone
Also she is Creative Director of G&S and helped steer them from disaster
Jacob Smith
>Main CR Crew >None of them ever played World of Darkness >Tal hasn't DM'ed in over 10 years, and is mishmashing 3 different version of VtM together
Its gonna be brutal for the first episode
Jonathan Martinez
sam is a treasure
Carter Lopez
i'm glad the seating is rearranged
Juan Flores
>Matt and Marisha showed up to play TWO DAYS before they get married
Carter Robinson
a national treasure
Wyatt Taylor
The guy who is officiating their wedding is GMing.
Anthony Torres
A beautiful clusterfuck.
John Carter
>Actually want the artbook >Its $60
Evan Ortiz
Tal cleans up pretty nice desu, and Matt looks like a fucking Elf
Jose Perry
Speaking as a married dude, most of the work takes place weeks/months beforehand. The week of the wedding shouldn't be very stressful.
I was playing video games with my friends the morning of the wedding.
Luis Wilson
Who was he again?
Dylan Long
He's the only I've ever seen that can adequately pull off goth without looking like a tool
Benjamin Lopez
> Everyone is dressed up in some form of goth, emo, or prep school outfit > Most have eyeliner, mascara, or dark/black lipstick on > Taliesin looks like an extra from one of the Underworld movies
This is already a horrible trainwreck and I'm loving every second of it.
Jose Adams
>META
Joseph Scott
>not cutting Vax out of the intro
I knew it wasn't really feasible but I'm still a little disappointed
Justin Myers
>Matt and Marisha >Laura and Travis >Liam and Sam
everyone is gonna go home and have crazy costume sex tonight
Benjamin Rivera
Matt looks like he could play a corporate Shadowrun Elf with minimal effort.
Brayden Clark
Liam is Nosferatu
John Martinez
Doesn't he already play one
Jack Rodriguez
>Liam and Sam
Xavier Lopez
Problem being that Matt/Marisha were both working their actual jobs, and with CR climaxing the past month or so Matt has been working around the clock on the final pieces of the campaign (Apparently he spent over 8hrsrying time just making the Entropis set alone) AND THEN he had that horrible Sciatica flareup that cost him 2 weeks
I'm loving it already. The meta intro was fun
>Marisha already confused >Laura already knows exactly what she is doing She proves again she is the best waifu
Joshua Turner
I've never played World of Darkness and this seems complicated as fuck
Caleb Campbell
alright this is too awkward, i'll check back in this thread and see from y'all's reactions if this gets better
Cooper Peterson
This must be your first episode of Critical Role then
Angel Morales
i've seen almost every episode, and that's the exact reason why i'm bailing. i'm used to seeing everyone get on with the show, this flailing and floundering is just uncomfortable
Kevin Gomez
It's not too complicated. It's a d10 system. Normally 7-9 is a success, 10 is a successful exploding die (reroll and if you succeed or explode again, add again). You usually get 1-2 die pools to reference from, usually a physical or mental stat and a skill, and the larger your stat or skill pool, the more die you roll.
For tonight Taliesin's ruling it as 6-10 as success.
I suspect the red die represents their vampiric hunger.
David Richardson
Did you see Liam's one shots? They started out the same way, it's typical when they're feeling out a new game.
Ryan Stewart
Red dice are probably from the fresh Vampire 4E, or whatever it is called now.
Brody Hill
this will probably be more like free-form rpg with some VtM thrown in
Eli Lopez
It's uncanny
Brayden Cook
>Travis always wanting to leave his friends behind whenever they do a game where they play themselves
I hope he never changes
David Roberts
>Their characters are based on their Vox Machina counterparts
Cameron Ramirez
>sam could have stalled Vax dying if he had his wish
That was the plan. That's why he saved his level 9 spell for a long ass time. But when it came down to either: Counter the spell Entire team dies
He had no choice. That's why he was apologizing and sad even though they'd technically won.
Blake Young
It's like pre-alpha system of the new VtM
John Morgan
>Taliesin is officiating the wedding Shit, really? Is he gonna fuck them both too? i can’t be the only one who sees it
Landon Cooper
I think they are perma friendzoned so hard that they aren't even attracted to each other. I had a friend like that before.
Juan Hill
Tal is knocking this shit out of the park.
Luke Diaz
i thought taliesin was gay (or something else entirely)
Matthew Davis
Yeah like for some I had no idea they were so well-versed. >oh shit is that Gaara >what do you mean he was the dub director for Naruto >what do you mean he’s the voice director for shadow of war
Josiah Ross
He is minimum bi since during the Winter's Crest episode at the end of the Whitestone Arc his gf made them all cookies and they were talking about it
It blew my mind that Liam was the voice of Illidan and then it made complete fucking sense
Logan Cooper
his mettle has not been tested yet.
we will see
Dylan Thomas
Liam is super talented. Back when Naruto Abridged was still a thing, my favorite joke was making fun of VAs who can’t voice differentiate, and out of nowhere Liam shows up in the last clip they showed with a “hey kids it’s Gaara” caption
Anthony Smith
When are they getting Steve “I pave rural driveways with my voice” Blum on the show
Jackson Allen
>You will never lay in bed and share Lucky Charms with Laura
;_;
Luke Martinez
I'd say Liam is good at the things he's good at, if that makes sense. I don't really see him as having lots of range though (beyond Gollum, but everyone can do Gollum).
He's as good at being whimsical as Sam is good at being a casual cowboy.
I'm just some faggot on the internet though so who cares what I think
Hudson Wright
>Would you recognize him by his parts? >Some of the parts weren't group up correctly Jesus Taliesin
Gavin Foster
So pay attention to the Alpha Twitter cause they are sending reference pictures of the office
Also that video is a repost and it’s still 10 years old, where has the time gone
Oliver Walker
Wait, so if they fail (Less than 7) on the red is it an issue, or if they roll a 1 on the red?
Ayden Lopez
>extra special erp episode featuring Major-voice and Terry McGinnis-voice Schway
Camden Lopez
It's rolling a 1 on the red die that they get issues. That super failure on them by Marisha is what made her forehead extend out and go a bit feral vampire-like.
Easton Ortiz
Ok, and if they roll a 1 on a normal dice nothing happens then.
Essentially the more red dice you have the more chances you have of crit failing, and the more hunger you have the more bad things the DM can make you do
Chase Adams
>DM is the first to die
Eli Jackson
>Matt walking into sunlight I don't care what anyone says, that's hilarious.
Daniel Carter
I thought sunlight wasn't insta death in VtM? I'm pretty sure there were survivors with heavy burn scars.
Logan Morales
Why would he be compelled to check if he rolled that many successes?