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Now that Forgeworld is building a team just for AoS what do you think they are going to do?
Hudson Kelly
So, now that we have the four warbands for this year, which one do you think is the best in AoS so far?
Josiah Edwards
more chaos dwarves
Joseph Adams
they're all incredibly inefficient to the point where you won't see any of them
Luke Rivera
Don't get my hopes up, we all know it's more stormcast/khorne
Easton Gutierrez
>nuGW and its spawn >releasing other than lamecast for fantasy
Levi Ward
What would a forgeworld stormcast even be?
If they put out a stormcast that is the size of a rogue idol I'll buy three
Adam Martinez
Since AoS forgeworld has released a greater khorgorath and chaos dwarf stuff, 0 samecast
It's possible that an AoS FW team is just making another warhammer quest but given what they've added and expanded in terms of actual forgeworld release it LOOKS like they're focused on chaos dwarves and fimir
Oliver Scott
Eh, I can see myself using the 'ard Boys one, 80pts is pretty reasonable for a unit that has both shields and (mostly) dual weapons plus a pretty good boss. It also means I can use something besides a Warchanter to spend any leftover points.
Noah Thompson
sweet skeletons, how much will they be?
Jackson Perez
>stormcast giant I didn't know I even wanted that, but now I do.
The SCE one isn't horrible. They make decent and cheap-ish troubleshooters.
Brody Martinez
FW AoS stuff has largely been repurposed Fantasy stuff.
Ethan Cruz
BEND OVER SLAVE
Lincoln White
Greater Khorgorath was originally supposed to be a K'Daii destroyer for Chaos Dwarfs, but then turned into Khorne. The Chaos Dwarf model that was released was made of leftover bits from the original K'daii. They aren't focusing on Chaos Dwarfs.
Asher Russell
>The SCE one isn't horrible. They make decent and cheap-ish troubleshooters What a surprise that only the SCE team is viable in AoS...
Oliver Lee
I would like to see the god trees for the Sylvaneth and the parasite engines for Skryre.
Jaxon Allen
Stormcasts, a bunch of Khorne and Nurgle, a new ultraexpensive army with retardedly big monsters. Fimir maybe?
And conversion kits. A shitload of conversion kits. Pauldrons like there is no tomorrow.
And Chaos Stormcasts Eternals.
Leo Hill
>Mfw Brayherd battalion box has only 360 points of models Fuck, they are to cheap point wise to be a good option for a poorfag. Even with two battalion boxes and two heroes I will have not enough stuff to play 1k pts
Lincoln Price
No please, not Chaos Stormcast, that's just a bad idea all around.
Death Stormcast is where it's at.
Jack Campbell
what are some cheap armies to build to 1k?
Camden Turner
It's Forgeworld. You know it's going to be Chaos. Embrace despair and buy some Nurgle Plaguecasts.
Jackson Lee
A lot of armies are cheap for 1000pts games Nurgle daemons (2x SC + Epidemius) BCR (2x SC) FEC (2x SC or SC + 2 skirmish boxes) SCE (starter set + SC) Khorne mortals (starter set + SC) Khorne daemons (2x SC and a box of bloodletters IIRC) Ironjawz (SC + Skirmish box + Megaboss)
Lincoln Brooks
To be fair, they're all viable in some way, bar the Sepulchral Guard, who are just pure dogshit rules-wise. - Liberators have high damage with a small footprint and are flexible enough to handle lesser monsters or heroes. - Bloodreavers add an easy Bloodtithe point and the champion can cause a couple of mortal wounds. - 'ard Boys are a cheap unit to fil out the last spare points and combine two loadouts in one unit.
Joseph Brooks
orruks are allowed to mix weapons in their unit anyways
Nolan James
almost anything
Kevin Fisher
why are people telling others to buy the SC! SCE, it doesn't make any sense, thunder and blood is the same price and it comes with more stormcast
Bentley Hall
I totally forgot about this box desu - my bad
Jason Morris
True, but these guys get those benefits to the last twin chopa-armed guy. It's not huge, but a neat bonus, I think.
Joshua Jenkins
Any Krautanons here? How would you translate Stormcast Eternals in German?
-cast? What does that even mean?
Charles Cook
cast means thrown. As in thrown dice/thrown from the storm/thrown from heaven.
Easton Lopez
Why would you want to translate the invented name? >What does that even mean? Storm + casted
I thought it was "cast" as in "cast in the form of", or like being cast from a mold or die.
Mason Davis
It also has to do with forging. Its a metalworking term
Ryan Watson
hey guys i've never played warhammer before but my wife and me would like to get into aos. know how long is a match between two starter boxes? is it a fast paced game or does it take several hours?
Tyler Martin
Cast is the noun for something that has been casted (like a bronze statue, or the actual Stormcast miniatures). Casted (sort of like crafted) by the storm.
William Nguyen
Sturmgeschmiedete Ewigwährende
Lucas Price
The first game gonna take some time but if you learn the rules small games will take about 45 minutes I think.
Juan Wilson
Sturmgeschmiedete Ewige or Sturmgeschaffene Ewige, I'd say. But GW doesn't translate names anymore, which makes for awful reading.
Zachary Evans
Cast is meant as 'gegossen' in this context, such as cast-iron means 'gusseisern'. It is to be taken more in a 'forged, made using' sense here, though. Basically, think 'Sturmgeschaffene Immerwährende', for example.
Brody Murphy
Stormcast Eternals TM
Eli Russell
shadespire is super fun, but how do i git gud with khorne? stormcast slap my shit every time
Brandon Hill
Suck less. Khornates are better unless you rush in like a dumbass.
Aaron Thompson
Got any tips? Stormcast always play defensively and force me on the offense
Josiah Rivera
So my friends and I want to try miniature wargaming, because one of my friends has autism. Any tips for starting? I've DMed stuff before, so has another person. What are we in for?
Nolan Cruz
miniature wargaming is not just gaming but also a hobby
Do you want to build, paint, collect, read lore, and play strategy games using those miniatures? You don't have to like every aspect of the hobby - lots of people just build and play, or just paint and read.
If so, look at getting one of the starter boxes - if you dont like the factions in the starter then check out the Start Collecting boxes for a good way to build a specific faction
- play defensively - gang up on targets of opportunity - engage on your terms - use your shitty cannon fodder guys to force the opponent into awkward situations - bait like a motherfucker - use your cards sensibly - learn to love Saek
Kevin Jackson
Have GW specified which? As they are literally cast out of storms when they do their not-deepstrike deployent so that was my assumption. Did GW say they were literally formed/forged in storms or were made of lightning in some way?
Nathan Cox
>What are we in for? Wargaming is 10% of games and 90% of hobby like painting, kitbashing, bitching about stuff on Veeky Forums or tga etc. You have to know that you will spend money not only on models but also on paints, brushes, drills, magnets etc. Is it more expensive than other hobbies like mtg? Yeah - if you are playing pauper or casual commander. Wargaming can be pretty cheap if you don't want to buy everything right now. - You should guys start with a start collecting box each or split the starter set if you like these factions. That's a good first step - not very expensive, gives you plenty of models to practice painting etc. - Equipment. You need a hobby knife (~$2), few brushes (~$2), plastic glue, plastic clippers, hand drill (~$5) and magnets (~$1). You can find all these stuff on aliexpress. - Paints. You don't need 20 of them. What you need to start is a spray primer, 2-3 base colours, 2-3 layers and a shade or two. That's it.
Asher Moore
>I've DMed stuff before, so has another person. What are we in for?
Honestly you guys can have a lot of fun if you want to push it towards tabletop RPG type stuff Wargaming is more of a system, it's a set of rules which you can use to have fun with.
If you guys want you can just smash models together on the table while rolling dice, or you can do things like draw up a map, set up kingdoms, roleplay diplomatic meetings with one another, settling disputes and border wars with games.
Or you can go hyper competitive, pickup GHB2017 and play tightly balanced games trying to discover new strategies and paths to victory.
Or you guys can just amass a collection of NPC models for your TTRPGs and use inches as measurement for movement when you have tabletop battles, eshewing the grid for a more natural tactical feel as you build scenery to embellish your encounters (and it doubles as wargaming terrain).
Really wargaming isn't any one thing, it's a huge mashup of several hobbies. Building, Painting, Collecting and Playing.
How you play will be different to how other people play. Most often people like a variety and maybe one day they have a huge narrative battle where they wrote an actual physical letter of challenge to the other warlord and the next day will be "tournament" practice
Nolan Ward
If it were the latter Stormforged would seem to make more sense to me than stormcast. Who knows maybe it references both?
Cooper Jenkins
>Is it more expensive than other hobbies like mtg? Yeah - if you are playing pauper or casual commander.
Commander decks can be thousands and thousands of dollars, and some of these aren't even full foil decks.
Also MTG rotates cards, where as in wargaming your models are never invalid, they'll always have rules, wargamers are a lot more forgiving of proxies and even before you play wargaming lets you "get your moneys worth" of entertainment by building and painting.
Magic is a game. Wargaming is a hobby.
Aaron Williams
It's definitely a play on words for both.
Given that they're stormforged warriors and they deepstrike from lightning clouds
Gabriel Ross
Special weapons. You get more bodies with T&B, but if you build your list up to 2k only buying monopose sets you'll be suboptimal due to the lack of grandhammers etc.
Noah Bailey
>Commander decks can be thousands and thousands of dollars, and some of these aren't even full foil decks Why do you think I used a "casual" word?
Connor Rodriguez
Its both.
Sigmar uses the power of celestial storms to reforge mortals into his super soldiers and then casts them into the realms to fight against chaos
They arrive on the battlefield through lightning strikes
Prosecutors throw their hammers, grab lightning bolts, turn them into celestial hammers, and then throw them again
So they are both "cast" from the storm, and "cast" into battle through the storm. It's surprisingly good wordplay.
Nathaniel Brown
if you want special weapons then go with the raw boxes, SC! is such shit value for SCE
Chase Allen
Thanks. It still feels clunky. The name really doesn't translate well into German. Even "Sturmgeborene" sounds weird. No wonder they opted with keeping the name in English only.
Leo Flores
If you're going that casual there are board games which emulate magic-like-gameplay and are far cheaper and more fun.
Even pauper MTG is really expensive due to the rarity of old commons
Thomas Gomez
Should get both
You can use the grand weapons from the SC! box to get enough grandhammers for every liberator unit.
You'll want at least 1 relictor in your list, those prayers are insanely good.
Then you pick up the 2 liberator box and you've got a decent starting force.
Easton Bailey
>If you're going that casual there are board games which emulate magic-like-gameplay and are far cheaper and more fun I have spend $20 on my EDH Iroas deck and I don't feel like not having fun
Brayden Ramirez
face me then, I'll show you my jace tms and loads of other fun cards
Brandon James
Khorne.
That's it.
Christopher Phillips
>you have to use fuckin expensive cards to have fun in casual games I see no point in facing you
William Cruz
they're not expensive if you got them when they came out :)
Josiah Diaz
>refusing to play with someone because they happen to have fun cards that you don't I see no point in facing you
Henry Adams
guys after getting myself hyped for some slaves to darkness I feel like the sigmarines are looking really good to me. what is happening? help me get over the sigmarines I DONT want them
Ethan Bell
Well, who'd want a versatile force with a large selection of models, multiple ways to approach force collection *and* list building? And all those conversion options, assured support and guaranteed updates are shitty, too. That really sounds awful!
Ayden Miller
user, all jokes aside Sigmarines are good: good selection of models, good variety in lists, good number of plastic models, few in number, maximum "your guys" effect. They're tragic heroes, doomed to fight and die, fight and die, again and again, each time coming back a little less humans. Yet they still keep fighting. Because it's the right thing to do. They're the sword and shield the free peoples need, they oppose raw destruction, barbarity and horrible enslavement to forces too horrible to comprehend. They're heroes. You know you want them, and you know why you want them. Search your feelings, user. You know it to be true.
Brayden Scott
There is literally nothing wrong with Stormcast Eternals.
Julian Ortiz
There is nothing wrong with SCE. You fall to jewcast meme
Liam Torres
Soon
Oliver White
...
Asher Myers
Nice try.
Nicholas Roberts
Someone give me a really cheap army Like right now, I want the cheapest 1000 you can find
David Sanders
SCE are basically upscaled StD with way more models you can choose from, a huge amount of lists
Joshua Diaz
Sorry mate, not this time. SCE are a newbie-friendly faction - easy to collect, paint and run. Also they have nice lore but this is my subjective opinion
Benjamin Wilson
See
Ryan Harris
Is it possible to go even cheaper? I don't care if my army is super effective, I just want to spend less than $200.
Zachary Johnson
So I've FINALLY unlocked the Kongo, I'm sick of playing with the Myogi
I've still not used her though, what should I expect?
I'm quite hyped because i've heard a lot of good things about her
Brody Johnson
split a starter set and storm of sigmar with someone
Thomas Bell
I think you're in the wrong thread.
Mason Rivera
Mate - Start Collecting costs $85 on GW site. Online stores and LGSs usually have 15-20% discount on GW boxes. Every army that has a start collecting box can be played below $200. The cheapest option ever is 2x Spire of Dawn. You can sell spare square bases and aelf models an end up paying 40% of the cost for a ~1400pts army
Daniel White
>being this Slav
Jackson Martinez
Fuck
Thanks, I'm in both threads at the same time and got confused
Brayden Gutierrez
Sorry, forgot to mention I'm living in Canada I would order 3rd party, but the guy who owns the store is a good friend of mine.
David Cox
Tell me, are you playing at GW store or LGS? If LGS - do they have a discount?
Christopher Green
A shame then the rest of the factions didn't get that treatment
James Taylor
GW store.
Henry Robinson
I mean, Fyreslayers did.
They're Slayers, from the realm of Fire. They're on fire. They slay things. They have fire monsters that slay things. They were founded by a big fire beast being slain.
Nolan Garcia
Well mate, you are the lucky one. Spire of Dawn is available in Canada. If you have $200 buy two boxes. I bought two boxes for 450 PLN in total. I sold aelves half for 220 PLN and spare square bases for 80 PLN. At the end of the day I get ~65% of my money back. You will have two blocks of 40 clanrats (battleline), 4 heroes, 4 weapon teams and some moulder stuff. It's a great way to build a mixed skaven army that can be re-organised into mono-skryre army one day
Nathaniel Sanders
Does anyone know of any good beastmen (bray and war herd) lists to counter seraphon? Particularly Bastiladons as they look nasty on paper.
Asher Watson
But the Dorfs got shafted and still got the Space Wolf treatment. Only where Space Wolves were 'everything wolf' dorfs got 'everything gold - 'Ur-Gold' instead of say 'Grimnite' or 'Divine shards' 'Aether-gold' instead of 'Aetheric gas' or 'Helium' 'Oath gold' instead of....gold.
It's like dorfs had to be the ultimate jews and weren't allowed to want anything if 'gold' wasn't in the name somewhere.
Then there's Khorne with 'blood'. You got Bloodwrath with the Bloodlord on a Bloodthrone leading a Bloodhound of bloodwarriors and blood reavers supported by bloodcrushers. It starts to get silly.
Juan Nelson
fucking lizardmen my friend just said he can use some bullshit combo to teleport behind me turn one for 24d6 shooting attacks and then gets a free shooting attack again if i try to charge him
Landon Ortiz
Ur-Gold makes sense, as it's gold made of their ancestor. Aether-gold is good because it links aethyric science to dwarfs love of gold. Oath gold is actually a WHFB thing, so there's nothing wrong with the sequal having it.
Benjamin Lee
Guys . How can i use hellbrutes models in AoS to converten to what ? iam trying to make nurgle army
Oliver Gutierrez
What are some good 3rd party online stores in Canada anyways? I have a sudden urge to start Beastclaw raiders
Gavin Gutierrez
Bruh I fucking know right, its bullshit. I'm thinking of using ambush to flank him and shoot the fuck out of him