"good" in D&D is the objective will of good-aligned cosmic forces...

"good" in D&D is the objective will of good-aligned cosmic forces. That means that if such cosmic force orders you to slaughter children, it is a good act. If this were not the case, then either deities must be infallible, or there is no objective good. If deities are infallible, then they may not disagree in any way, and are functionally the same will.

Objective cosmic forces aligning with human ideals is philosophically unsustainable.

>Objective cosmic forces aligning with human ideals is philosophically unsustainable.
in D&D it's magic, you ain't got to explain shit

You're a shit-talking retarded idiot. You're ignoring DnD's traditionally consequentialist morality while conflating 'objective' with 'absolute'. Keep hitting the books, grasshopper.

>DnD's traditionally consequentialist morality
*non-consequentialist

>Objective cosmic forces aligning with human ideals is philosophically unsustainable.

Dragons generating lift under their own power is physically impossible.

But what do the cosmic forces dictate is "good"?

What do the cosmic forces dictate is "evil"?

What do the cosmic forces dictate is "lawful"?

What do the cosmic forces dictate is "chaotic"?

If you showed the trolley problem to an archon of Mount Celestia, how would they answer it? Would the answer differ if the archon was a hound, a sword, a trumpet, or a throne?

What if you showed the trolley problem to a guardinal of Elysium? Would they answer it any differently from the archon? Would they get into an argument with the archon if they had to answer it together? Would the answer differ depending on whether you showed it to a lupinal, an avoral, an ursinal, or a leonal?

If you asked a Gehenna-born yugoloth whether it would be more evil to let the Blood War go on or to end it, what would they say? If you asked the same thing of a Grey-Waste-born yugoloth, how would they respond? What of a Carceri-born yugoloth?

Cast down the gods and replace their law with the truth you know in your own heart.

If

Mind Flayers punching holes through someone's skull with their tentacles is physically impossible.

Of course it's possible. You just need a universe with different physics, or dragon wings made out of exotic matter.

Alignment in D&D is never consistently clearly defined enough to make many absolute claims about what exactly it is or how it works.

Yep, it's pretty fucked up.

>Objective cosmic forces aligning with human ideals is philosophically unsustainable.
What about a third option?

The Gods are goodness incarnate and would never tell you to do something bad because they ARE goodness?

That looks like a variant on that misused argument about how God must define what is good so if something obviously terrible is said to be good in his sacred books then it's somehow actually moral.
That's actually wrong and an evidence AGAINST that religion.
Good is good because how good aligned gods are but good aligned goods STILL have to actually be good or your setting is impossible but that's more the fault of the alignment system and gods if you use them in an impossible way.

,D&D morality is like sudoku. Even if there are tons of open squares that are open for interpretation, not a single combination of numbers is capable of solving a board that has contradictions.

Firstly, deities ≠ allignment. The deities are not infaliable beause they're not pushing the absolute GOOD EVIL CHAOS LAW bullshit. That's the Exemplars, and their leaders. People like Asmodeus and Demogorgon and Zaphkiel. The gods are more often puppets than puppetmasters.

Secondly, just because there is an objective GOOD does not mean that there isn't an objective Good. It just means that GOOD and Good aren't always the same thing, and that sometimes EVIL and Good are.

But yeah, objective allignment bullshit is awful at defining morality. That's because it actually defines what side you're on in the great cosmic proxywar

The moment you start to think about aligments, it's the moment you lost already.

Alignments are whatever the fuck you say they are in your game, period.

... But Good Gods would never order you to do that. That's like saying "If everyone had babies for dinner, we'd all think it was normal." The supposition is so retarded that the conclusion is meaningless, even though it's true.

>get put onto the wall

Lmao so edgy

The good aligned deities serve the philosophy of good, that the well being of others is sometimes more important than your own, not the other way around.

It's a corrosive that allows them to do that

You don't get put into the wall, if you're strong enough to win. Seize the heavens by force, grind the gods beneath your heel, and rule as a Godking!

Good in D&D is an objective thing, but it is not tied to gods, as evidenced by gods turning evil and changing their good mojo for bad mojo. It's like with regular characters.

>Being this much of a pussy

You've got eyes on the front of your head for a reason, user

>That means that if such cosmic force orders you to slaughter children, it is a good act.
Technically true but I feel it's like asking what happens if you could divide by zero.