Hey user, my character has amnesia, that's her backstory

>hey user, my character has amnesia, that's her backstory
>Hey user can I play a kitsune thief?

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Literally nothing wrong with a kitsune thief unless they use some kind of furry art

Completely agree about amnesia backstory. 100% aids that makes me want to burn my players.

>"Ok, since you don't know or care what your backstory is I get to fill in the blanks."

>"Well, I'm not going to tell you no you can't play that, just be prepared to be suspect everywhere you go because your playing a race known for trickery."

Anyone who wants to play an amnesiac gives me a blank check to make up whatever shit I want about your backstory.

I played an amnesiac who had a backstory he just didn’t know because of severe head trauma. It made his life infinitely more complicated.

>nothing wrong with kitsune
>unless they use some kind of furry art
that isn't physically possible. Kitsune are a furry race, so you cant draw one with out it being furry, unless you dont include the character in the character art.

If it's a player I trust, I'm always happy to work with an amnesia backstory. As a GM, it gives me all sorts of interesting options.

Of course, I still want some definition of who they are as a person. Where they were found, what they had on them, any skills or personality traits that persist, any theories as to their origin, that kind of thing. If the player gives a little direction, it makes it easier to work into the plot in interesting ways.

...No? Kitsune, at least classically, are not furry. They're either purely animal or mostly human with, in some depictions, minor animalistic features. They're never classically depicted as anthropomorphic animals.

>Sorry but if you are going to play a character with amnesia I get to decide what to do with his/her backstory

This. The last time I had a player make an amnesiac character we wrote a rough backstory and came up with a reason why they had no memory before game started and the player let me fill in the details so it would be a surprise in and out of character.

>They're never classically depicted as anthropomorphic animals.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuzunoha

They're, in appearance anyway, humans with animal features, not the other way around, so not furries.

user, take a human, add fluffy tail, replace human ears with fox ears. Boom, kitsune.

>Implying that Pathfinder's depiction of Kitsune has any relation to actual mythology

...Which proves my point, yes?

user are you having a stroke?

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Her shadow clearly depicts a bipedal fox.

This. They are fully animals until they change into their human form
Close, but not quite. The animal features are very minor and are more of a "tell" than anything else. Kitsune try to hide them so they aren't outed as demons
I don't think you know what anthropomorphic means

That's a human shadow. The 'mouth' is her handkerchief.

>plays game that includes kitsune thief
>whines when players wish to play a kitsune thief

You have only yourself to blame.

An arc where the character has amnesia and is trying to get their bearings can be good if executed properly, though. It's only awful when they use it to have no personality and no backstory at all.

Ehh, sometimes.

I once had a miserable experience with that exact premise, an amnesiac trying to get their bearings. I died maybe 20 minutes into the first session because my character was lethally addicted to this particular drug, didn't remember his addiction, and died from the withdrawal symptoms, having passed up taking that kind of crap because it would be really bad for him to get hooked.

>hey user, my character has amnesia, that's her backstory
Nope. Try actually writing a character.

>Hey user can I play a kitsune thief?
Sure thing. Wanna discuss how kitsune work in my setting so we can establish them as a race and incorporate them into the setting in such a way that they don't contradict anything that's already established? Your character may be a marginalized minority though, how do you feel about that?

>I died maybe 20 minutes into the first session because my character was lethally addicted to this particular drug, didn't remember his addiction, and died from the withdrawal symptoms

I think this was more due to poor planning than the concept itself being bad, user. Did your GM force you to take that trait?

It was one of several proffered characters, and while I wasn't forced into playing that particular one, it did look enticing and once I accepted it, I was stuck with the pre-written backstory. So yes, in a weak sense.

That's pretty rough. I think your GM should have been a bit more lenient, given the circumstances.

If anyone wants to have amnesia, that's fine. They want to have me make this amnesiac character's backstory, that's fine too... in fact, I mandate it.

I reserve all rights, at that point, to be a dick about it. Something made you lose your memory, or you opted to voluntarily lose your memory to forget something.
The kind of thing that would probably tear a kitsune thief limb from limb if it caught her.

Do you have that weird syndrome where you actively and willfully avert your eyes from the obvious when it challenges your worldview?

Not that user; I think she just has a fox-shaped shadow in human form. Her body isn't fox-shaped at all until she's actually in fox form.

>hey user my character has an extreme hatred for [common fantasy race the setting is full of] and would like to one day exterminate them
>hey user my character is an orc raised by humans and wants to find out more about his birth parents
>hey user my character is a tiefling

What about a half-orc half-infernal who's raised by humans and wants to find out more about his orcish mother who was killed by elves igniting genocidal anti-elf rage within her?

Yes, her. She's a sexy musclegirl in chainmail bikini with a feminine dick.

I was with you up until
>feminine dick

>hey user, my character has amnesia, that's her backstory
>Hey user can I play a kitsune thief?
Sure thing!
>The twist is it's Shadowrun and angry yakuza kidnapped a Lonestar operative who had killed some of their brothel staff and wiped his memory and gave him a full gender and even race level of reassignment surgery just so they can degrade him further

>its not furry!! it just has a tail and ears and looks like a fox!!!
if it looks like a fury, is a furry, and meets the definition of a furry, then its a furry.

>but im not a fur fag!! i swear! its not a furry!
yes it is, yes you are, your are all fur fags.

>Character has amnesia
>Backstory has nothing to do with the overarching plot and the amnesia is a result of utterly mundane misfortune

>its only a little furry! that means its not furry!
>i only suck dick and fuck men! that dosnt make me gay!
>at least its not a catalak! that means because it isnt the most degenerate version of a furry that it isnt furry.

it is what it is. you are what your are. Add a little or take a little and still being the same thing means your still the same thing.

>tfw rolled a mindwiped in DH

Isn't that a full fox still wearing the clothes?

'Furry' has a specific definition. Kemonomimi has a specific definition. They are not the same thing.

>Hey user, I've never played a roleplaying game I just hang out on Veeky Forums cause I like the atmosphere

Okay, user, nobody's kicking you out, but you shouldn't make threads like this one. Contribute things, don't just stick to making argument bait.

Oh user how Fucking Wrong you are. The only time anything remotely yiff related is tolerable is if we're all playing W:tA- and even then you watch suspected furfags hard

Liking catgirls doesn't make you a furry anymore than liking tomboys makes you gay

Animal ears and a tail on an otherwise completely human face and body is not furry

What if said tail is half her body?

>it’s not furry
...and it doesn’t matter anyways, there is literally nothing wrong with being a furry.

Yes it is. Animal ears make you furry. An animal tail makes you furry. Fur of any description makes you furry. The only exception to this is the minor overlap between certain hairless tails and goat legs that comes with demonic shit. the lack of fur or hair is the deciding factor in this one exact situation

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no less bad then rape, loli, anime, or corruption (and etc) fetishes.

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If you're operating by an entirely subjective definition that is significantly different from the general consensus sure? I guess?

What do you gain from asserting something so arbitrary?

I go by Encyclopedia Dramatica's take on the subject.

So, am I in the minority of people on character design that think pretty much any character, so long as they fit the setting and have a well done backstory, is okay for a character to play?

Granted, I have a longtime group that has run hundreds of story lines (we have been together since '81) and they all RP their characters well.

There were some issues in regards to anime style characters for a couple years, but once they came around and started reading up into some Japanese mythology, it hammered itself out as we started running the occasional Asian themed campaign.

>anthro lizards/birds/fish/etc aren't furry

no bait intended.

there is truely nothing wrong with being a furry. however, doing wrong things is still wrong yet being a furry has nothing wrong with it

So it means I can fap to dragons with my mind at ease? No fur on my dragon titties~!

user there are numerous things wrong with being a furfag. And loli, anime, or corruption (and etc), while terrible in their own right, are miles above furfaggotry.

This is the sort of puritan thinking that got the U.S all kinds of messed up shit throughout its history.

It's the small victories that get me through the day

Oh yes there is. Furry inevitably is a sign that shit is going to get pornographic. And not some sort of sane kind of porn, but often very, very messed up porn.

You wanna be somewhere furry-friendly? Go to /co/

literally no difference between being attracted to a fictional anthromorphic animals and fictional girls

Except the animal part. Fucking degenerate. Stop acting like it's a normal thing. Keep that shit out of here.

But you don't actually have any argument as to why it's different. You just continue to assert that it's true.

Years of experience.

I’m honestly not a furry.

fapping to a drawing is nothing more than fapping to a picture with lines on it. There is no difference.

The issues come when those obsessions come into the real world and hurt people, but that’s the same as with any fetish

Hair is fur though

>Furry shows up

What's that following you? Ah, of course - it's diaper porn! Somebody get me my coat, once furries show up it's time to leave.

That’s a fallacy, not all furries have a diaper fetish and many other groups have them as well.

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As you continue to assert that your viewpoint is true with only your opinion

And I am, I know what depraved shit we're into. However, unlike the rest of them, I'm smart enough to keep that shit in the closet. It's got no place here.

So far, I've not asserted anything. I've just asked you to explain your claims and argue them.

Only the first is an issue, calm your tits sir

This debate has literally been going on for over a decade, and there is still no end in sight.

There will never be an end because no one will ever decide on what a furry is

Furry is easy. Anthro animal=furry.

literally anime

if you really wanted to do mythological kitsune just make a demure japanese woman, bam your done.

You realize humans are athro animals right? Also things like elves, and monstergirls

Monstergirls are often furry.

>it's a furry thread

>monster girls are furry thread

reminder that not even furries themselves can decide what a furry is

Of course a degenerate skubfag would try to equate their disgusting addiction to an inane discussion on fetishes. You're not going to normalize your obsession.

this is a skub-friendly board don't bring your anti-skub bullshit here.

How dare you

There's literally nothing wrong with skub. Only pinko commies are anti-skub, it's more American than apple pie.

Holy shit you fucknuggets it's really easy.

>it has a snout
Furry

>it has a human face
Kemonomimi/monster girl

>it has a human face, tendrils, slimy maw where her chest should be, ten sets of tits and spider legs
Setouchi plz go and stay go

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Yes, and it's objectively correct.

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well one player once said to me:
>My backstory is that i have amnesia the only thing i remember was that i was fighting with myself

it was exciting finding out why he was fighting himself

but by your definition Kobolds are furry too and we all know it's wrong.

Why is a furry race allowed to be in the 5e core races?

I have the 5e PHB right here mate... The only thing that could be described as 'furry' if you REALLY stretch the definition is Dragonborn. The rest are core races that have been there since at least 3.5... Plus Tieflings, but they get a free pass because Neeshka was best girl.

What if all the players had amnesia. Like they woke up in some lab and have to figure out what skills they have?

kemonomimi is not furry you fucking invalid

That and DB + Tieflings were 4e corebook races so it's not really surprising they are in 5e corebook. Like the Warlock.

correct
How the hell are they not?
>inb4 hurrdurr scales not fur
semantics, 'furry' has come to mean 'any anthro animal'.

Id say being a pedo is probably a little worse than being a furry.

>corruption
Do I even want to know? I'm kind of surprised I don't, but my curiousity is getting the better of me.

It's a tag searchable on some hentai doujins. The attached image should help with its definition as per its use here.