Can I get rule set suggestions? The setting is Blade Runner-lite with mega cities, androids, religious cults, and neo-noir investigating. There would be some standard cyberpunk stuff, but no insane body modifications. The game would be a series of one- and two-session scenarios where players infiltrate corporations, kill targets, smuggle goods, use negotiating skills, explore the city, etc. No aliens or mutants. The rules should fit (or be easily altered to fit) country-sized Kowloon Walled City 200 years into the future instead of Deus Ex meets Blade Runner.
I know Cyberpunk 2020, GURPS Cyberpunk, and Traveller are standard entry level but I wanted rules light and possibly OSR.
This is a pretty good suggestion, it's setting neutral but designed to do noir games, for something based on Blade Runner the noir stuff is probably more important than the setting stuff, which is what Cyberpunk RPGs tend to focus on.
David Barnes
mini six if you don't mind doing some work putting it together.
Tyler Adams
Never tried a dice pool system, although I've wanted to try ORE for a while.
James Rivera
Depending on you definition of rules-light, The Sprawl or Headspace.
Jose Morales
never played it so I can't speak of its quality (or lack of it)
Here's a mingame that lets you find out who's a replicant.
Liam Robinson
I was looking at The Sprawl, but I can't seem to find the full pdf anywhere. The beta pdf is around but I don't know how much is different.
Brayden Adams
Look at the PBTA trove in Da Archive.
>you MIGHT want to check The Veil as well, but it's more philosophical and shit
Nathan Jackson
Thanks.
The Sprawl has some cool stuff, but also some things I don't know if I'd like (the clocks, rolling to get paid after a mission). Blade Runner seems tuned to playing as a Blade Runner specifically, but it's nice and light A Dirty World is definitely not what I'm looking for, but ORE might still work. Technoir is pretty barebones and doesn't seem to offer anything special. Mini Six could definitely work but I would have to do most of the leg work. The Veil's rulebook is extremely fluffy, but has a lot of interesting stuff to work with.
Thanks for the suggestions. At this point I'm going to look into making ORE or Mini Six work for the setting or use The Veil.
Leo Clark
This A Dirty World, or Technoir if you don't like ORE
Asher Thompson
Stars Without Number 1.04 Revised Beta + Polychrome Supplement. Nix the bits of stuff that doesn't fit your setting.
That's really the only way right now you can get any decent system to do even the slightest bit of Cyberpunk without going painfully crunchy like Shadowrun or pig-disgusting narrativism without going so far as to write your own or using GURPS.
Oliver Gomez
Hunter-Seeker is a lighter version of Cyberpunk 2020 that might work.
>people are still recommending this incomplete system for what fucking reason would you suggest a system that isn't even finished yet? and i say this as a fan of CP2020
Brody Brooks
Can anyone recommend me a ruleset? Similar thing to OP here, I'm trying to run a Cthulhu punk game. If you're not familliar with it, look up Spoony's video by the same name. Basically, a generic cyberpunk setting with no magic. The players take on a job to break into a research lab, and start running into lovecraftian shit.
Christian Morris
Shadowrun Anarchy, leave out the fantasy.
Nicholas Myers
C2020 is pretty easy to get into and play, easy to change to your preferences too. If you're not impressed by the level of tech I'd check out the space sourcebook and if that's not enough, just make your own shit, it's really easy.
Brandon Ward
In what way is it incomplete? Just by glancing at the rules it seems to be usable.
Asher Ward
Well I'm planning on running an Android setting in Genisys when it comes out.
Dominic Carter
no rules for drones or drugs and the augs upgrade section is incomplete, as is the section on vehicles. the creator even says its only 90% complete
Gabriel Bailey
Silent Legions+Polychrome.
Charles Perez
>Silent Legions+Polychrome. Wouldn't running Silent legions kind of give away that you're planning on including Lovecraft type stuff?
Logan Butler
bump b
Nathan Wood
There are a lot of rules light cyberpunk games that can support a multitude of settings. The Sprawl is a favorite of mine
John Clark
come here to post this, The Sprawl is pretty great if you like the Powered by the Apocalypse stuff.
Thomas Long
This. I used Cyberpunk 2020 as introductory game for new players in clubs and conventions because it’s so basic. All players need to know is how to make a skill check, how to roll for initiative and how the health monitor works. Once they know this and they know their character sheet it gets really fast and enjoyable. And like you point out, making your own shit (background, gear...) is really simple.
Hunter Stewart
GURPS + Cyberpunk + Cthulhupunk (yes, there is an official CoC/Cyberpunk sourcebook). Don’t know if it’s compatible with the latest GURPS edition since it was made for the previous one.
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Samuel Sanders
You cannot go much more OSR than Cyberpunk 2020 since it’s the first cyberpunk RPG (actually it’s CP2013, but their pretty identical - 2013 is more crunchy).
John Howard
I don't think you know what OSR is.
Parker Gray
I just realized the Gibson quote is positively retrofuturistic now. Kids will be exposed to dead channel only if watching older movies and shit. It wouldn't happen IRL.
Elijah Hernandez
It does, but it's just blank blue, and requires you to circumvent the various ways your TV/set-top box have of not showing you a channel without signal.
That said, who watches TV anymore? Just watch shit on your computer.
Jack Young
OSR stands for Old School Revival. Apart of that I have no idea what it’s about and honestly I don’t really care. My point was simply that CP2020 is the most old school you can go in term of cyberpunk - don’t know if it fits the OSR label though.
Alexander Moore
Yeah, but Gibson referred to static, of course. TV is alive and well, tough it's slowly shifting to internet (but I don't think radio trasmission will die totally).
Aaaaanyway it's kinda of the problem with cyberpunk. As it is generally understood, it had been dead for at least two decades. The Sprawl isn't a bad game but it's pretty much retrofuturistic in that sense. Headspace has a nice idea about to make future shock in game by some fears about the future coming too real (if I understand what is beyond the whole idea of shared consciousness).
>mfw GITS is positively post-cyberpunk already by some definitions
Gabriel Morris
It does not. OSR is most easily defined as knockoff B/X (and other old TSR D&D, but mostly B/X).
The most OSR you can get for cyberpunk is Stars w/o Number + Polychrome, as somebody mentioned up-thread.
Luis Walker
What is or isn't OSR is vague and depends on who you ask, but I think most people would agree CP2020 (or 2013) isn't OSR. OSR games tend to be closer in design philosophy to Basic D&D or AD&D (or classic Traveller when it comes to sci-fi). It's hard to explain, but basically if it's from after 1980 or older and doesn't say it tries to imitate games from the '70s in some way, it probably isn't OSR.
Gabriel Wright
grognards insist its just old D&D systems from the 70s and 80s
I fail to see what special rules would be required for a country sized Kowloon Walled City. Everything you describe is pretty much basic cyberpunk.
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Christian Bell
I don’t get the appeal of those 1-page rule light systems. Sure, for a one shot they might be interesting, but otherwise?
Chase Roberts
Medium crunch games feel more rewarding to me since there are more possibilities to make the character evolve.
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Nathan Smith
>for a one shot they might be interesting That's what they're for, dumbass.
Nolan Garcia
Electronic Battleship?
Joshua Gomez
>knockoff B/X Knockoff AD&D. Basic and Original are tag-alongs.
Thomas Butler
OSRIC is knockoff AD&D. Most other OSR systems are B/X hacks, because it's easier to hack.
Jose Morris
...shadowrun? or shadowrun anarchy if you are afraid of the written word!
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Eli Reed
Most B/X hacks have not been played once.
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Hudson Richardson
OP asked for a rule light game for a serie you fucking asswipe. Hence my reserve regarding rule light system for what he intends to do.
Carter Johnson
Just means its a nice blue tone. and if you wanna get overly deep with it, it just means the dystopian corporate future isnt dark and foreboding. It's always been the nice blue sky you're living in now.
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Leo Evans
I need more art Pls
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Lincoln Anderson
These are part of a mind-control porn set, aren't they?
Tyler Richardson
>it had been dead for at least two decades.
It aint dead, it Just grew up. Ian McDonald and Cory Doctorow are both very prominent SF authors and they both write primarily cyberpunk, it's just Cyberpunk that isn't completely formulaic
