What kind of setting would foster an environment where Pinup style clothes and armor would be widely accepted?

Exalted.

A setting where compact personal shields exist.

It's the only example I could think of that would justify the near absence of clothes.

So the brother of the guy who did Naruto has a manga called Crazy Chimera World...

Current problem, assuming using Gamma world and PCs are manimals trying to get laid but not torn to peices and eaten if how to create a reward system and "combat system" for fucking without dying.

An environment that resembles the one most industrialized nations find themselves in today, spurring the acceptance of women in the military. The important elements here are:
>Great peace and stability
>A massive technological advantage over all potential enemies
>An arbitrary societal push for more women in the military
>Decline of social (and more specifically sexual) mores to the point of total degeneracy
>A focus on asymmetrical warfare, where small and elite strike groups operate in the field as opposed to mass armies clashing

The third element would explain the presence of women where they don't belong: the military. The first two would explain why they would be omnipresent. The fourth would justify pin-up clothing. The fifth would be the saving grace of the army, allowing the real warriors to function unopposed by the eyecandy of diversity.

If you can somehow secure that the technological advantage of a certain empire is so huge warfare is trivialized, but they somehow haven't entered the age of gunpowder warfare, you can see pin-up style armor being common among women. Especially the rich, the leisure class has always defined itself by wearing the most impractical garb possible. Something like in your pic, but with stupidly high heels that almost resemble stilts on top of that.

What Americans call "liberal" is the dominant worldview in the West, especially among the younger generations. Technically the guy you're responding to isn't wrong because of that.

A setting where adventurers are celebrities sponsored by legions of adoring fans ranging from lowly peasants to the gods themselves, so being sexy and titillating will get you just as far if not farther than common sense

Pornogladiators? Pornogladiators.

>women are bad for the military
Fuck off /pol/

Is that apocalypto

yeah

>Say something lefty weenies don't like
>You must automatically be /pol/
And you wonder why the political landscape is becoming more and more polarized?

The fact is that women are horrible for any military, as any unit is only as strong as its weakest element. Now look up the entry requirements for men and women in any military, and you'll find that women in their early 20s struggle to achieve the same things as men in their late 30s. Women in the military are a luxury only the most peaceful and technologically societies can afford, or a last ditch effort only the most backwards and down-on-their-luck societies are forced to rely upon.

14 fucking posts.

stop talking to yourself

No, we're saying fuck off because THIS IS Veeky Forums YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

>present a viewpoint commonly held by users of /pol/
Mate, there are military positions that don't require you to be some ripped dude who can lift a truck with his nuts. You didn't say they would be bad for front line infantry or artillery or some such, you said they would be bad for the military in any position and that's blatantly wrong.

>logic isn't common sense, idiot.
You're the only one speaking it.

literally dark sun

welcome to 1991

You're right, but this is Veeky Forums and this isn't Veeky Forums related

You live in a setting where, the majority of society believes that scars are points of Honor. And thus going shirtless in the battle is seen as and honorable thing to do.

>You didn't say they would be bad for front line infantry
Maybe in the sense of WW1 frontline infantry that only exists to catch bullets they'd be fine, but then we get into the whole evolutionary male disposability affair. As much as I hate to paraphrase Lindybeige of all people, if a war is decided by who has the most vases you don't fight the war by throwing vases at eachother.

If you mean frontline infantry that's actually expected to survive an engagement and inflict damage on the enemy, I'm saying that women would be unsuited for this. They're smaller, they're weaker, they can carry less, they're less mentally stable under pressure, they have less stamina. In most of these operations, commanding officers prefer to weed out the utter weaklings as they'd just weigh down the rest of the unit. That one extra gun isn't worth much if it means the entire unit functions worse because of it.

This is why we only see significant numbers of female warriors in the most desperate of situations or in the most privileged of societies. That's a fact you cannot dispute.

I'm directly responding to the OPs question so it's more on topic than half the complaints against me. If you don't like it you're free to ignore my post.

This.
Imperial Japan used a lot of comfort women, some kind of military job focused on women giving pleasure to the soldiers would be very usefull

Are you fucking retarded?
Learn to parse a sentence kid, I said you would be right for those roles but the fact is there are plenty of other roles where physical endurance and strength is far less important, and women can do those roles just as well as men.

Excuse me the Greater East Asian Coprosperity Sphere did not, you filthy canadians, now take down those memorials to things we absolutely didn't do

Now you're just falling for the "woman are incapable and worse at everything" meme and will get another long winded lecture THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH Veeky Forums.

I'm waiting for him to claim being front line infantry or something despite being a fat neckbeard armchair general.

A setting where it's in fashion.

Even full armour suits usually had some nods towards the fashions of the time, and clothing is nothing but fashion.

Maybe showing off one's body is considered a sign of confidence or health and success in a culture - where hiding your body means you must be a fat loser, or sick, or a coward.

Of course that means in that culture near-nudity would be unremarkable, and not sexual in itself.

So for clothes it's easy, for armour it's harder - although magic etc can mean that no armour is required, it becomes harder to justify wearing any armour at that point.

It could be that on the battlefield armour is acceptable for the regular soldiers but officers and the wealthy fight using just their magic bracers and rings.

Celts used to go into battle with not much on except blue paint - to earn the gods favour - perhaps something similar?

You don't really need a special setting for it. It could even be the real world during the era of sword and arrow combat. But if your character is a mage, an archer, or a warrior carrying a decently sized shield, the need for conventional clothing or armour becomes less relevant.

Therefore, pin-ups for you!

Apparently the Celts were famous for wearing little in the ways of armour, because their use of shields reduced the need for it. And you have a lot of African tribes who didn't wear a lot of armour, but had tall, wide shields and fought in organised ranks.

The only "fantasy" here is the intentionally overly sexualised outfits designed to specifically tease with near nudity, as opposed to outfits that just so happen to look rather skimpy by Western standards.

It would help further to remove the taboo of (near) nudity, so that people don't scream in horror to see an exposed ankle.

One where aesthetic is more important than authenticity. That's all it comes down to.

You can try to justify it, but honestly I don't see the point. If that's how the setting is, that's how the setting is, so why obfuscate it?

A setting where people commonly develop superhuman durability to the point that mundane armor is redundant, but is made to be stylized to show off your confidence in your powers.

Anything with magic is already a free pass to throw conventional practicality out of the window.

And really, you don't even need magic. Actual soldiers in real life wore some unbelievable shit in history. The era of head-to-toe steel was only a couple specific centuries, not the norm. There was a time and place when the standard issue gear for a completely 100% serious warrior (male) was a miniskirt and boobplate with nipples and carved abs. Some cultures fought wearing nothing but bodypaint, and so on.

If you want your tiddy armor, all you need to do is put it in. You don't have to excuse it with anything.

Subtle trolling.

>there are plenty of other roles where physical endurance and strength is far less important, and women can do those roles just as well as men
How many of these roles involve wearing armor?

FUCK OFF YOU TIRESOME LITTLE CUNT.
Push your sad, insecurity-driven agenda somewhere else. It's fucking pathetic.

Scifi thanks to skin-tight bodysuits

Any setting where the creator wants it to be that way. Fantasy settings don't have to make sense.

I'd say they have to make sense, just that 'making sense' has no relationship with 'be realistic'.

You can establish the laws of the universe to be absolutely anything you like. They should be consistent enough to make sense, but it's honestly pretty trivial to do so.

Agenda? Ask literally anybody in any country's military, and they will tell you that women soldiers are bad for the military and endanger everyone around them simply by being there. There is complete consensus in this among actual military personnel. It's only civilians pushing this, because civilians have gotten into their heads somehow that women simply must be a part of the military now, they just have to, otherwise sexism and other buzzwords. Can't have that, that's bad. Better for people to die than have sexism.

This is Veeky Forums. What you're talking about is irrelevant, off topic, and annoying. That you fixate on it and push it so fucking hard just proves you have an agenda, and it's just as pathetic as the prior poster said it was. Fuck off.

Mine, obviously.

DESSSERTS!

>soviets have female conscripts
>nazis are uberpatriarchal
Soviets win

>israel has female conscripts
>every single arab nation around them is uberpatriarchal
Israel wins. Every. Time.

>NVA has female conscripts
>US army and SVA are uberpatriarchal
NVA wins.

History speaks quite loudly.
And it says Rin pleases old generals for the honor of her nation.

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A setting that emphasizes fun and aesthetics and doesn't take itself too seriously. You don't need to fall over yourself trying to find some way to justify it. If you want ladies in skimpy cheesecake armor, put them in skimpy cheesecake armor and leave it at that.

A world in which human flesh is tougher than metal!

Why does she have high heels?

Quote your sources or shut your hole. Oh wait, this is Veeky Forums, just shut your hole.

or there could be skeleton monsters who steal everyone's clothes and give them bombs instead.

Because it looks good

Artist fetish?

Because they're cute and go with the pretty dress. ...have you never been to an event where girls had to wear dresses and heels, user?

Have you ever been to an event where girls had to wear armor and high heels?

Sure. Convention cosplay.

why don't you have high heels?

Renaissance fairs. Girls like to put armor over their dresses sometimes.

Mate, the woman uses a lance on foot and wears a armored dress as protection, safe to say practicality was the last thing on her mind.

MAID or an hack thereof.

Pornopunk

Oh boy, that thread was trippy, having a penis in that world is a borderline death sentence.

If we're being totally fair, men wore heels to keep secured on their stirrups. She could be dismounted cavalry.

What said.
Just be honest why you want to include it and use it in any setting you like. You're not fooling anyone with this "Actually, it's realistic because ..." act.

Well, it is pretty sexist that only men are allowed to die in wars, if we're going to have equality, then women should be allowed to enjoy that too.

Soviet won because they literally drowned the Germans in human waves and industrial power, not because they had some token female units that never achieved much anyway.
As for israel, you can get away with it when you have your US puppet state backing you and can use all kinds of high tech weapons to smoke out civvies and AK wielding rebels. They also have the particular problem with the orthodox jews being rabid about not serving in the military, even though they're the largest demographic, so that might be another reason.

It's okay as long as your big sis masturbates and collects her love juice into a small bottle that she dabs on your face while you sleep to hide your male scent.

>As for israel, you can get away with it when you have your US puppet state backing you and can use all kinds of high tech weapons to smoke out civvies and AK wielding rebels.
You forgot the most important element: Arab culture is the fucking antithesis to modern warfare. Generals are appointed out of nepotism, the army is deliberately kept ineffective to reduce the chances of a succesful coup and knowledge isn't passed on because an officer is only valuable if he's the only one possessing certain knowledge (like how to repair a malfunctioning tank).

defencejournal.com/2003/apr/arabs-lose-wars.htm

I'm pretty sure even an Israeli woman-only army could win against Arabs. That's how bad they are.

>Israel wins. Every. Time.
I'm not sure you have a solid grasp on the nature of the israel/palestine situation.

Wh-what is this fetish? Where can I read it? I missed the thread.

MONK ONLY SETTING

>Soviet won because they literally drowned the Germans in human waves

T-36s being literally undestroyable by nazi tanks didn't help at all I'm sure.

But if the fight is drowning people in bodies, who the fuck cares what gender the bodies are, unles you're a nazi who rapes corpses?

>As for (((israel))) [hurr durr doesn't count when they beat US tanks and aircraft with *french* aircraft and tanks in the field over and over again]

Yeah yeah, nice wrong opinions brah.

>High Gravity
Wearing anything heavy or dense is pretty much impractical on this world as even with the (aesthetically) improved musculature and bone structures of the people in it, armor will slow you down exponentially. The prudish can still wear lighter stuff like cloth or leather, but it must be fitted to allow movement in this awkward environment.

>Parasite Armor
All armor is crafted from parasitic creatures that drain energy from the wearer. The bigger your armor the bigger the drain on your being, so most people have to make do with less. There will still be heavily armored individuals but they steadily lose their health/humanity in the process of regularly wearing it.

>Onechanbara Method
Literally bathing in the blood of your enemies gives you power. Exposed skin and flesh in combat allows you to maintain a berserk cycle that makes you faster and stronger with each wound and kill you perform. Wizards might get away with magicking blood into/onto an exposed patch or orifice, but gathering blood manually like this presents its own problems.

>Weeaboo Fightan Magic
Like the blood power setting, but mandated by wizardry and martial arts. Heavy armor materials interfere with the flow of arcane energy and qi, and any light armor needs to at least be fitted to allow range of motion. Fighters et al are muscle wizards.

>But if the fight is drowning people in bodies, who the fuck cares what gender the bodies are, unles you're a nazi who rapes corpses?
It matters if you're concerned about population rates, general morale and aren't a gurofag.

>MONK ONLY SETTING
I doubt female monks would wear bikini armor. Not that I'd complain, whatever they end up wearing is probably sexier.

You also forgot the Lend-Lease that the Soviet Union tried to censor into oblivion, ashamed of having to admit that without American support the entire war effort would've collapsed after Stalingrad.

A setting wherein heavily enchanted clothes was used in place of armor because it was objectively superior.

>less then 1% of the Soviet military is composed of women
>that’s why they won against the Nazis women stronk

Not a bad idea, actually.

Someplace with a hot climate. Staying cool would be important enough to skimp on protection.

I love poofy dress armor, yet I am bothered by the high heels. Is there something wrong with me

The stilts on her heels magically polymorph into spurs when she goes mounted?

>What kind of setting would foster an environment where Pinup style clothes and armor would be widely accepted?

Any that is made by HBO

>T-36
Uh, I assume you mean T34? In which case they were crushed in droves once the Germans started fielding mainly 75mms. The T34s were a huge threat when they were first introduced against the mainly Pz.kpfw III and early IVs that relied on blitzkrieg strategy, but once they started spewing out Tigers, Panthers, PZ IV auf.h and all manners of 75mm+ assault guns and tank destroyers, the t34s couldn't rely on their sloped armour anymore. At that point they only won because they had near unending amounts of them being pushed out all the time while the Germans' industrial capacity and population was being massacred by allied bombing.

I've no idea what you're going on about with Israel though, it's a fact they have massive amounts of backing from the US regardless of what materiel they use.

Yes, because lances imply cavalry and heels were away worn by cavalry. You guys are worrying about her footing when her weapon isn't meant to be wielded on foot

or the material are super expensive, so there no point to make a full armor out of it when you could have 200 super bikini which are as efficient.

One where protective spells only affect the caster's skin, making clothing and armor more or less cosmetic rather than functional.

Setting where warriors are being pitched on the arenas to fight to death for the amusement of the crowds.

Soviet tactics: Ram your fucking tank into the enemy's fucking tank so they cannot use their turret. Both tanks rendered fucking useless. You got fucking more of them, though.... So... Fuck 'em.

Western Allies and Soviets simply out-produced the Nazis when it came to tanks. Mostly due to production facilities not being bombed and their designs not being over-engineered bullshit.

It's called Crazy Chimera World, there's only spanish translations of the first two chapters around, and scans are light on the ground atm.

Basically the world is a desert or something, some plague or something has turned all animals and plants into part human chimeras, and all women in the setting hunt male creatures for food and rape.

What's worrying is that I can see how you'd structure a game around the setting, because there's human looking women wandering around who output psychic "come here" vibes or something, and playing a group of male creatures whose end goal is to pilgrimage to some even more powerful version of these women and mate with her, preferably in a way that lets them survive afterwards. and along the way they all have to survive predation/rapedation of various female monsters that hunt males.

The arguement was that ANY women in the military destroys that military's ability to fight effectively.

So while I can think of armies with female conscripts who won fairly major wars, I can't think of a single army destroyed from the inside by the presence of female conscripts.

>spewing out tigers

The huge amount of resources that went into each tiger and the slow speed with which they were produced and their maintenance problems did almost as much damage to the nazis as the T34 itself.

The recurring theme of ww2 is "nazis eventually make something that can compete with their enemies' 2nd generation war machines, but it cripples their economy in some way", whether it's tigers and leopards to defeat T34s, or Me262s to deal with flying fortresses. Always the nazis responded to the changing nature of war by setting themselves on fire "because the allies can't beat us if we're on fire".

boards.fireden.net/a/thread/164807405/#164807405

I remember a doc on the war that had Israel fighting two of its neighbors (7 day war?)... They got zerged but had a terrain advantage. They also had engineers build bridges that allowed them to flank their opposition.

Thanks for the source. Annoying when I do a reverse but it's completely in chinese so I don't get the name.

Germany also used slave labor to make some of those tanks, leading to sabotage and substandard production.

Six Day War actually, but yes.

Fuck off, /pol/. It's already annoying enough to have you invade /k/, to the point we can't even have a decent thread on naval decoy launchers without a retard shilling his political views.

We aren't telling you that you're a waste of a human being because of your opinions; you are a waste of a human being because you can't shut up about it, no matter how irrelevant it is to the discussion.
You're the redneck equivalent of vatniks and chinkshills, except at least they are smart enough to get paid in the process.
Have you ever thought that you might get spotted immediately because you act like an insufferable faggot, and not because of some feminist conspiracy that wants to neuter you and sends its watchdogs to the threads you post in?

So, fuck off. I'm here because I want to discuss traditional games. If I wanted to discuss the impact of sexual dimorphism on society, I'm only one click away from /pol/. I can do it on my own, I don't need you to show me the way.

This

While the average woman is likely to meet the standard, have you considered that in a scenario where each person can be measured and tested on an individual basis, statistics mean far less? That leaves only endangering mentalities, that the woman should be treated as anything other than a soldier.

one where visual appearances don't reflect what is going on.

like some kind of "videogame" or setting.