Asks if anthropomorphic races exist in a homebrew setting of mine

id maybe allow it. make it clear you don't want any fetishist stuff.

if he wants to stay wolf form all the time fine. But pretty much eveyone is then going to treat him as a monster, either wanting to flee or kill him.

t.furfag

>giant mini-gun leaning against the jeep, correction, giant SCOPED minigun.
>nobody there is stronk enough to shoulder that monster and it obviously doesn't have a forward grip.

That 'human' is a werewolf and secretly the alpha of the damn pack, hell, I'll bet it's his kitsune waifu and halfbreed kids! Probably wrapped the rifle to slightly protect it when he turns and drops it for his preferred (also scoped) weapon. Even his clothing and gear is simpler and cheaper (check his pant legs) because it's supposed to be disposable or easy to slip out of.

I wouldn't find too much of an issue as long as it would make sense in the setting. But given the setting of your game, you're being extremely generous as it is by possibly allowing the werewolf-type thing.

If you really want him as part of this game, try to compromise by saying that if he plays a normal character in this game then he can play whatever fursona he wants in the next game.

More like apathetic. I let a guy play as a slime in an RPG. He had no face or story and his personality was mostly talking about how gross internal organs are, it was just a slime that traveled with the rest. At my table nobody cares. Just get on with it.

That depends OP, are you okay with having a furfag in your game?

To be honest, I’d boot him just for asking.

I mean in one of the godlike pregen encounters there is a nazi who is also an elephant. The only reason he isn't elephant all of the time is the logistical issues that would provoke.
Just saying, there is totally president in the system for it.

But seriously tell him to fuck off with the fetish shit, or start a fetish arms race with him and repeatedly kill or subject his character to a fetish he doesn't much care for to drive the point home.

Let him play a hirsute Wild Man of the Woods, with a moist nugget that has since run out of ammo and is mostly used as a bayoneted spear.
Sure, let him think he's a wolf, but he'a actually a really hairy man who lives innawoods and thinks he's a wolf.

No. It will only get worse if you let him inject his creepy fetish.

Maybe I'm wrong but aren't like 70% of furries not even into it as a fetish?

Its the other way around

just say no. Other games exist for that, perfectly good games, but this is not one of them.

Maybe I'm wrong but aren't like 70% of people that are into watersports not even into it as a fetish?

I don't think that's correct. I thought I saw a statistic about it.

I'm not trying to defend furries here, but I'm pretty sure it's possible to think cartoon animals are cool without wanting to bang them. I don't know why you'd want to get pissed on unless it turned you on.

youtube.com/watch?v=Kntyuz16I18

Tell him no. It's obvious what his angle is and the last thing you need to do is enable him.

>uhhuh no I don't furiously pound my johnson to cartoon animals I just like them (?) for some reason
Eat shit furfag, literally no one believes you when you say this.

>I just like them (?) for some reason
I'm not even talking about me. I just swear I thought I read about it somewhere.

Regardless, if it doesn't fit into OP's game, it shouldn't be allowed.

>but its like as soon as we found out, it's all he wants to fucking play anymore.
By not shaming him for his fetish you have communicated to the degenerate that you accept it. Of course he is going to keep bringing it up, it's not like he's going to find another accepting place anytime soon.

> I swear I'm not a furry I'm just protecting their honor online
Oh for sure man.

Just remember man, if you move an inch, they take a mile. Draw a line in the sand and keep it.

Ask him what the idea is.

If it's something inline with the setting roll with it and see what it does.

If it feels off then talk to him and tell him you'd prefer him to make a new concept.

Pretty much this. I have a furry in my group, but since we play traveller and Vargr (basically dog people for all you uncultured plebs) are a major race in that it is a complete non-issue. It is basically the equivalent of someone always wanting to play elf/dwarf/whatever in a fantasy setting.

Bros how do I get my DM to agree to let me act out my lactation fetish in an RPG

Pretty sure they aren't.

I know a group of furries who absolutely love Ironclaw, and unironically have all sorts of furry toys and accessories, and are very adamant about their love for it, and they find the fetish absolutely repulsive, and hates the fact that it even exists.

Thr hate is probably connected to the connotations it creates, as without the porn, they would not have to worry about people instantly assuming they have Bad Dragon dildos and fursuits and a collection of furry porn.

But of course, anectdotal evidence. I don't think there is an actual statistic of how many furfags are into the fetish or not.

How would you even go about that? Foot fetish dude here, I just went with a barefooted monk and mindspace my degeneracy.

I'm betting Minotauress.

You sound like one of those "GAYS SHOULD BE KILLED, REMOVE THEM ALL FROM EARTH REEE, ALSO I AM TOTALLY NOT GAY, REALLY HONEST!" closet fags.

I mean, I would never allow furfags in my game, because I dont want their fetish messing everything up, but you seem a tad too defensive there. You sure you aren't just trying to convince yourself you aren't also a furfag?

Other than that, I have to admit, you are kind of an idiot if you just hate anthropomorphic animals by default. Zootropolis, Robin Hood, and all those children's movies, are great fun. You have to be a special kind of Autist (or be a super closet furfag) to hate those movies.

Stop playing with mentally ill people.

No. Be an adult. Say no. He can fucking take it or leave it. You don't want fetish shit in the game.

My partner's a huge snake-furry, but it doesn't matter in d&d because they can just play a Yuan-Ti.

I don't want to fuck slimegirls, but I put non-girl slimes & oozes all over my campaigns because they're tough bastards to fight when done right and also I played a cool flash game ten years ago.

Everything is a fetish. Fuck, I once stumbled into a forum for people who jack off to death animations in video games. Better not have anyone die in your d&d game or you're catering to degenerates!

No. Disfigured human nearing some shit like Quasimodo or something around those lines? Fine. Animal mix? Don't.

what about CRABBO LORD OF THE CRUSTACEANS?

make it really unfun for him by dealing with realistic consequences, such as his body not being able to digest the stuff that he eats, or his bones and muscles being ruined due to all the stuff that he does in wolf form, also some illnesses that his human form can't handle.

don't let him play out his supernatural powerfantasies, slap him with rational reality, let him be the crappy weird ill dog mutant abormination thing that he wants to be

Aren't all races anthropomorphic?

>let him be the crappy weird ill dog mutant abormination thing that he wants to be
Joke's on you, that's my fetish

>player wants to make a character that doesn't fit the campaign
>i know, i won't say no like an adult, that would be too simple!
>instead i'll just act really passive-aggressive and make sure his character has all these disadvantages that wouldn't ever have come up for any other player otherwise!
>by lowering the quality of the game for everyone by diverting all of my attention to petty antics targeting one player, i'm sure to generate an epic greentext story!
every thread, without fail

No you fucking don't!
Do you want to be a doormat, OP? Because letting this shit in is the first wipe.

If your setting doesn't have it proper then I'd say no. I'd let him play a literal animal if he wanted, though.

Unless they're shaped like starfishes, Tangela, blobs, dolphins in power armor, sentient discharges of energy, or snakes without limbs. Or too many limbs.

You realize this thread's premise involves a superhero system that does not have mechanical downsides right?

>”How would you play a female werewolf” thread gets removed because a few anons made jokes about fortune cookies
>”How would you do a xenophilia setting” thread gets removed despite have NO lewd in it
>Meanwhile, we have multiple concurrent threads griping about a furry boogeyman in hypothetical anecdotes that never actually happened
>We also had TWO simultaneous threads for some “Cestree” anime bitch, one of which was about her fucking hair color

Someone help me figure out what this is supposed to mean. Double standards? A raid from Reddit? The return of Nazi mod? Why do we have this sudden influx of posts reading like they came directly out of 2006?

>Cestree
>anime
Oh, to be new again.

>what about CRABBO LORD OF THE CRUSTACEANS?
Depends on the setting.

>We also had TWO simultaneous threads for some “Cestree” anime bitch, one of which was about her fucking hair color
You seem new. The artist who draws her needs constant validation, so he spams pictures of his waifus on Veeky Forums a lot.

Run, just run, OP.

Worst answer in the thread desu. Choosing to make the game shitty for him is top garbage, if you don't want the guy to be a beast, say no. If you do, say yes. It's the magic of being a grown-ass adult. Stop the bullshit of hating it and saying yes so you can punish him for wanting a specific character.

It's not a minigun, it has lightening cuts in the barrel.

>Does it fit the setting?

If so, consider it, if not, put your foot down.

Alt-history WWI werewolf could be friggin kickass, imagine that thing jumping into a trench and tearing a bunch of screaming troopers apart with teeth and claws.

But if it doesn't fit, it doesn't fit, and that's the end of it. You're in charge, you're the GM, maybe let him play a werewolf but give limits on the transformations and such, make it work, if you want.

Have a private talk with him, he's probably just excited that he can finally be open about something he likes but has been ashamed of. He's probably been consciously hiding his preferences for years and was afraid you'd reject him if you ever found out.

Where are you finding these people? I've had a couple games with literal furries and in the face of not being able to play a furry character, they just go and make a normal one.

national holiday in bongland

Basically it's a repressed want. Well it's out now, let him get it out of his system.

WW1 you say? Yeah there is some precedent for it. Up to you if transforming or always wolf fits your world better.

oh god i fucked up, meant to say burgerland instead

ITT: A bunch of newfags who don't really understand why Veeky Forums hated/hates furries but really, really want to fit in

"What idea?"

Cool, let me break it down for the newfags.

Back when moot founded the site and he was a 15 year old shitter making an "18+ only lol" website based on the posting style of a japanese site he didn't understand he was also really into the popular website Something Awful, so based upon a running joke that was also an inside joke he didn't understand he banned furries...

What was the joke, you ask? A moderator who was a furry had just left Something Awful. He was considered one of the best moderators and a cool guy. He came up with great material. So to honor him after his passing in true Something Awful fashion... they began a 'Furry Purge" styled heavily after Nazi Germany and the Holocaust. It was role playing with witch trials and a concentration camp board 'suspected furries' were confined to until their 'execution' which was basically just a ceremonious ban.

So 15 year old little shit brain moot sees all of this in progress, assumes it's actually serious because he can;t be arsed to lurk for 5 minutes, and bans furries on Veeky Forums to in order to be like his big bro Something Awful that he looks up to. Veeky Forums was to Something Awful what Reddit was to Veeky Forums when it first hit and ripped Veeky Forums off so badly. Veeky Forums did not have a great start.

So there you have it. The true origin of furry hate on Veeky Forums is Veeky Forums's founder not understanding holocaust jokes.

I lolbombed Second Life furry sims with the PN way back, I've had a furry in my group for a very long time and I've brushed up furry communities for ten years straight.
These people are not wrong.
Furries are not 100% bad, but in my experience, the only furries who're worth a single moment of your game are the ones who just fap to something with a muzzle once in a while.
I've developed a theory about furries from the ones I've met - they almost always have the common points of an overly pampering parent (most often a mother), a childhood mostly spent watching cartoons and a few seeds of autism which end up being watered into full-grown hugbox trees by their guardians and teachers. This means that a lot of them tend to ask things in a childish way ("can I play X in this campaign" is a red flag), deal badly with rejection and have a hard time understanding that real people don't think like cartoon characters.
If someone happens to have a bit of furry porn on their laptop, keep playing with them.
If someone is an actual furry, you will not be in doubt. Furries share a lot of personality traits and behavioral habits that are almost uncannily similar, and you'll learn to pick out the bad ones.
Then smite them with fire. There is no salvation and no redemption - furries are used to parental approval, black-and-white cartoon morality and echo chamber websites. They will try to compromise their way into playing a furry character (be very wary of people who want to play big, male lizardmen/dragonborn, ESPECIALLY if they really care too much about small details like "but he has to have the tail", because trust me furry barafags are the absolute lowest), then spin around and ruin the game, either with ERP or with space logic that they expect the NPCs to react completely natural to.
Furries are bred in echo chambers away from common logic. Furries are persistent, martyred, shrill and take offense to anything. Furries do not respond well to logic.
Not even once.

Spoken like someone who wasn't there. Furries acted the same way bronies acted a few years ago, except they also claimed it was their lifestyle and that anyone who was sick of them shoving it every-fucking-where were literally persecuting them.

I've played with several furries and one full blown otherkin and they were all really chill players. Otherkin was actually pretty cool to play with and made two solid characters, everyone in the group was sad when he left due to getting a new job.

So everything wrong with furries is basically the hallmark of a 4channer, got it.

So you know, I'm a full blown furry and those people infuriate me, probably more than you.

I cannot goddamn stand preachy pretentious assholes demanding everyone conform to their whims, and being so disrespectful of everyone else as to make others uncomfortable for their own amusement.

>>>/reddit/

>I was there, I saw what the furries did to bring it upon themselves

You mean you saw Veeky Forums trolling. Interesting you bring up the Bronies, too. Literally the same thing except moot was older and there wasn't a running nazi joke on something awful for moot to misunderstand.

it's like weebshitters can, will and actively must disregard facts that don't fit their narrative

No. No, what are you retarded or something? Hell no.

4channers, but worse.
I am giving you this advice not out of spite, but because I want to help.
It might be sad that 99% of furries are horrendous abominations who only react to any kind of advice or input with instantly vaulting into the five stages of anger (there must be some psychological reason why furries always go through the phases neatly), but that's what I've experienced, so that's what I'm saying.
I don't want to play the oldfag card too much, but I've never actually went to Reddit, I only found out it existed after I'd been on Veeky Forums for four years and I hate the place.
I think you might just be a self-hating Reddit refugee, if you don't understand the implications of "lolbombing Second Life with the PN". Hint: it was way before Reddit hit it big.

>Veeky Forums
No, they were all over the net. Gaslighting people isn't very nice, user.

It's amazing, right? I wonder, when you look at a mirror in the morning does it take you a minute to realize that it's yourself?

MUH NARRATIVE!!!!

>"can I play X in this campaign" is a red flag
wat
How else would you ask?
t.ESL

Furry hate is practically mainstream because they were a real problem everywhere. You really think 2005 Veeky Forums had the cultural pull to make the entire internet hate furries? Back when it was just a handful of goons fucking around?

Oh no, of course not... meanwhile 2007-2010 Veeky Forums had the cultural pull to effect major industries and politics. And it did. With hilarious results.

Furfag here.
No don't let him shoehorn that in. He doesn't have to make everything in his life furry. It's dangerous and normally leads to a bad time and unhealthy obsession.
He can save that stuff for online time, vidya or going to furmeets.
I always tried to avoid imposing it on anyone else in my late teens and early twenties.

You're not trying to oppress him, just not catering to him at the sacrifice of your world building.

Furry hate is older than Veeky Forums anyway, so your narrative is pretty stupid.

>older than Veeky Forums
>doesn't remember 1995-2005 culture and internet
>Omaha, Fritz, and all the anthro stuff that predates Disney's anthro stuff is unknown to him
>animal hybrid people endemic to human culture since the bronze age is something he's never studied.

So you're a child that doesn't read books. Furry hate is a bizarre fad, a moment in human history that is already passing.

>furries existed before Veeky Forums
Yes, that is a prerequisite for people hating them. I'm glad we had this discussion, I was afraid that there were people who thought that furry hate was actually older than furries.

Furries pushing it as a lifestyle and constantly, endlessly trying to shove it in every single facet of their life is a bizarre fad that thankfully has mostly faded, but clearly hasn't gone away enough yet, given that this thread exists.

You read the books first.
That's the most fucking important thing.
You read up on the setting and the game, and then you come to the GM with a character pitch that shows you're willing to read about the setting and play by its rules even if not everything about it is your cup of tea.
I can give examples, because I'm not lacking for experiences. Let's assume I'm playing a Vampire: the Masquerade game (yes, it attracts retards; no, they're not worse than D&Drones) and a player comes to me with a character suggestion.
1. >Can I play a lizard-man in this setting?
2. >I haven't gotten around to reading the books yet, but can you tell me if there are any interesting options if I want to play a character who can take some punishment?
3. >Are City Gangrel allowed in your campaign, or are you going with only Camarilla clans? I got this image of a Gangrel who fled to the Everglades after he was Embraced, and now he's coming back to find that it's not the world that's changed, it's him.
1 is out in my book. It shows a lack of willingness to research and a lack of interest in the setting - the guy just wants to get from A to lizardman in the shortest time possible. These people I have nothing but bad experiences with.
2 is the one I get the most. The player has a character type they'd like to play, and they tell the GM so very clearly. They show that they're willing to admit that they've done something wrong (not reading up on even the basics) and they keep the concept loose so that they don't end up forcing the GM into a compromise they don't want to make or gimp themselves playing a ridiculously gimmicky character.
3 might actually be a bit desperate, but it's still the best - it tells me that the player has researched, they're interested in the setting, they have a character concept that can be realized within the system and that they're willing to risk being shot down.
You might notice that 2 and 3 are trying to get to the exact same character concept as 1.

Ah yes, that wonderful part of the Veeky Forums conversation cycle where you clearly missed the point just to declare yourself right. Which means you're either trolling and will continue to not understand, or genuinely stupid and won't understand no matter how I explain. So, congrats, you self-declared winner, you self-declared won. Good game.

Your "point" is literally a lie. Furry hate is older than Veeky Forums and Veeky Forums had no cultural influence at the time of its peak. You are wrong at best, but probably just lying.

Oh I thought you meant the wording, not the question itself.

>You read the books first.
>That's the most fucking important thing.
>You read up on the setting and the game
Pretty funny considering I was reading another thread with people yelling and crying they'd never read a GM's 3 pages long setting guide.

>Veeky Forums had no cultural influence at the time of it's peak

Gary...

You don't have a point. Furry as a lifestyle is not an ancient, sacred part of our cultural history. It was an annoying part of the mid aughts internet that was rightly hated after they shoved it everywhere it didn't belong.

So you think that a few dozen old goons and one 15 year old on a knockoff imageboard somehow made the entire internet hate furries before they even started existing in the same site?

If you're doing supers with Godlike, I could see it working as his power, I suppose.

It's been a long time since I spent much time with that book, but if you're playing it pretty close to that, I think you could have it as an always on Talent kind of thing. Maybe his Talent developed as a result of some horrific event, and having his wolf thing always on is his coping mechanism for shellshock?

But ultimately, you know the guy and your ideas for the setting. If you have any doubts, either about his ability to not make it weird or it's place in the setting, just ask him to come up with something else.

Well for one thing, wasn't the entire internet, mostly just Veeky Forums, it was one of the many Veeky Forums phenomenons that didn't get much traction outside of Veeky Forums.

Second, Veeky Forums still had a big impact on culture and politics otherwise, pretty good for a 15 year old who didn't understand holocaust jokes.

I'm just fine with never playing a game with that kind of person.
I've done so multiple times. Those people run on entitlement and the idea that their time and energy is somehow more precious than everyone else's.
The rulebooks are there to read them. I don't care if you don't read it twice - I have the fucking Revised rulebook, I'll hand it to you and you'll read it before the session, if "reading PDFs hurts your eyes".
If players and GM alike don't know the rules all of them are going to be using, the game immediately becomes less enjoyable as a huge chunk of playtime has to be dedicated to getting people back on track.
The rulebook is not optional. It's obligatory. If you can't spend five hours reading, you can't spend five hours concentrating on the game.
I have seen exactly one exception to this, and it was a kid with Tourette's who had a very hard time with stationary activities. He listened to me giving him a resume, and he actually remembered the rules.

>it's not an ancient, sacred part of our cultural history

Bastet says hi.

It was the entire internet, and it began before 2003. Veeky Forums didn't really take off until 2007. You are wrong.

Ancient egyptian shit stopped being anyone's culture literally thousands of years ago, and yiffing wasn't considered a lifestyle and pushed in other people's faces even when Bastet was relevant.