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What's Veeky Forums's take on Alpha Legion being outed as 100% Chaos, then? Personally I liked the ambiguity about their true allegiance.
Xavier Sanders
YEAAAHH
Cooper Howard
>AL being "outed" Just as planned
John Robinson
I'm glade they've moved away from that piece of shitty lore. That was only a piece brought up due to the HH series, it isn't an essential piece to their long established history. I far prefer them operating as they do as a force of Chaos.
Justin Rivera
So sisters of silence: How useful are the different variants? As far as I can tell sword seem to be the clear winners, but I might be missing something.
Hudson Hall
I updated my 2000pts list with the Chapter Approved changes. r8 me please
Death Guard Battalion detachment
>HQ Typhus – 175pts Winged Daemon Prince – x2 Malefic Talons, The Suppurating Plate - 180pts
Exodites when? I wanna see an in lore fight between Exodites and T'au and see the T'au fucking lose. It would be hilarious and this is coming from a T'aufag.
Chase Sanchez
>outed That's just what we want you to think.
Grayson Garcia
Looks pretty solid to me. I'd consider moving away from the Hellforged but that's just because I'm not overly fond them as compared to another Pred or a PBC.
Josiah Hall
Battles against Space Amish would be picking on hobos
Evan Gonzalez
>newest codex gives yor once per turn psychic power to an entire army for free So this is what it feels like to be kicked in the balls when your already down, huh? >t. Gk player
Adrian Rogers
>that fucking tranny >a QT Lol
Angel Moore
Can someone upload those Dorn screenshots from the instagram? thx
Parker Watson
When are SoB going to get new models and units? They look like Ogryn currently.
Nicholas Turner
>widest hips you ever done seent >tranny
Blake Walker
I'm looking at my Blood Angels in light of the new codex preview and I'm debating between tacticals and intercessors and I just don't see the reason to take tacticals as a Blood Angel.
Yes, BA tacticals get a heavy flamer, woo.
However you're paying 17 additional points to put it on a 1W model with a 3+ save.
A heavy flamer has an 8'' range and does D6 S5 AP-1 D1 auto hitting shots.
I'm sorry but that's just not a good enough reason for me when I can take a squad of intercessors who have rapid fire 30'' AP-1 rifles and are easier to keep alive with a narthecium and the new ancient banner giving them a 5+++
Can someone point out how I'm wrong?
Brandon Powell
That crawler looks like shit prove me wrong you can't
Andrew Watson
Honestly they seem the least detailed legion despite not really being the one with the least screen time. (Which is probably Iron Hands?)
Their core concept is interesting enough, but they haven't really done anything with it.
Samuel Green
Seriously shite art right there
Ayden Barnes
>10 of each SoS+Rhinos is 726pts What's a fluffy way to bring that to 1000? I'm thinking about an inquisitor stand in for an Oblivion Knight-Centura, but idk what to do from there.
Julian Gray
It's a decent looking tank, but gives no visual indication of being a daemon engine.
Jacob King
Meh, I guess if you're a fan of hamfisted narrative and being spoon fed everything.
Landon Wilson
I can't say I didn't see it coming. I knew the rumor was legit.
>tfw Sanctuary was swiftly nerfed but Psychic Barrier Crusaders is working as intended
Kevin Edwards
Rate my Green Armor Bros alliance list. It's a little light on bodies, but seems pretty good and should survive going 2nd.
Owen Richardson
What's wrong with it?
Parker Jones
BLOOD ANGELS WILL RULE ONCE MORE
LEAD BY A FLYING WIZARD TRAPPED IN A ROBO SARCOPHAGUS
FFS ITS WARP CHARGE 5
Lucas Ross
I'm just going to assume you started with 40k lore during the HH series and disregard your opinion.
Ethan Morgan
Chaplain dreadnought maybe? Would help you capitalize on those swords while giving you some much needed lascannons and your tank rhinos can ensure he can't be targeted
Nicholas Thomas
Really? I agree there are aspects which could be tightened up, but on the whole it's decent. t. Drawfag in training
Cameron Turner
I prefer the idea of them being so deep into it that not even they know anymore
Adrian Adams
>it isn't an essential piece to their long established history If by that you mean most underdeveloped legion in the game than yeah.
Jackson Gray
The problem is I'm going to kill the Wizard well before he gets dangerous.
Adam Roberts
Source?
Benjamin Hall
Not sold on Chaos Predator.
Consider maybe getting a noxious blightbringer, if youre gonna use poxwalkers in combat, you need to get in.
Eli Wright
Neither of these Stratagems are failures to use the Keyword system. Fire Frenzy is a Stratagem that affects a single unit, and so it names that unit. Daemonforge affects units with like ten different Keywords, so it uses a shorthand notation defined within the rules.
No. That's not a "Helbrute." This is clear, people just act retarded because they don't want to face the truth.
No, you need to stop being retarded and face the truth. The Stratagem rules are in that section. None of the powers require a "Chaos Space Marine" target.
Jace Rivera
You can't deny that GW is dumbing everything down. This is just one aspect of it. Everything has to conform to the lines in the sand, otherwise people might have to think and draw conclusions. In b4 GW confirms the fate/status of the Emperor and everything Cypher related.
Jaxon Howard
What are you, Vostroyan? Because snipers will do jack shit to a Dread, and your AT weapons cannot shoot him.
Jack Barnes
Why does Abaddon have the same topknot popularised by the sisters of silence?
Ayden Green
the problem is that the wizard doesn't do enough damage.
But it does move pretty fast
Hudson Davis
Not even tzeentch knows, but he does.
Alexander Torres
Bumping Q
Robert Watson
You mean why do Sisters of Silence have the same top-knot as the Warmaster of Chaos? He predates them visually.
Robert Baker
I play Eldar and yes I can shoot at him because he's in a fucking dreadnaught and it has 10 wounds. Or do you think anyone was concerned with a flying actual librarian?
Brandon Thomas
A heavy weapon and two specials is way better than AP 1 bolters. And primaris can't ride anything except for their floating shitbox. What a joke.
Luke Lewis
The 8thE Chaos codex.
Jace Ramirez
Topknot used to be the "warrior's haircut" back in the day. It just isn't cool in the current year is all.
Christian Ward
He wanted to feel pretty.
Elijah Murphy
Are sisters of battle and silence virgins or do they fugg?
Benjamin Edwards
That's out of universe. In-universe, Zeke will have seen the silent sisterhood long before he chaosed.
Liam Hall
Must not have left much of an effect seeing as we are only talking about it now.
Zachary Wood
iirc its a Cthonian gang haircut, it's common in the Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus/Black Legion/whatever they call themselves these days
Wyatt Torres
Repostan
Hey, just wanted to let y'all know that chart-user isn't gonna keep on updating the mathhammer doc, but I'll take over. Starting next week I'll update the point costs first, then fill in the missing units and options. I'll let you all know when I start in case there are any specific requests. Can't guarantee I'll do as good a job as him, but I'll try.
Josiah Parker
Difference is Crusaders are a smidge weaker than fucking Draigo
Leo Richardson
Aaaargh
Oliver Brooks
Librarian Dreads have 8 wounds, checkmate xenosfag. Try reading the army rules before posting next time.
Aaron Baker
>That's not a "Helbrute" As says it is super ambiguous and I hate that.
Cameron Ward
Draigo is the only unit in the codex who can still get a 2++, retard. All the nerf did was take the option away from unnamed GMs and Brotherhood Champions.
Jace White
I'm doing an Inquisition army and I was thinking it would be fun to include some Jokaero Weaponsmiths now that they have the Authority of the Inquisition rule too. What do you think would be a good count as model?
Jack Walker
>bloodletter in picture ????
Levi Hall
Pauldron - too long Gorget - too distended Bolt Rifle - Magazine is thicker than the gun which is about as thick as an assassins codex Tiny hand syndrome. Tiny power pack syndrome. Tiny head syndrome.
>t. Drawfag in training Never gonna make it if you settle for decent
Jason Wright
Green stuff hair all over an ork boy and paint him brown/orange.
Chase Gutierrez
Cut outs from your family photo album
Cameron Fisher
Oh well, still Hemlockable. Still Autarch with a Reaper Launcherable.
Anthony Parker
You know the poseability of these gals is kinda awful? The first 5 look good, but they're just short of monopose. Next five will come out almost identical.
Ryder Cook
Brotherhood champion can also get a 2++ with the Heed the Prognosticar statagem...for 2CP...in an army that can literally never field a brigade under 2k points...
Thomas Foster
They're just worse SoB with a very situational rule.
Christopher Carter
Riding is overrated this edition. You don't need to ride very far when you have an effective 36 inch range. Alternatively you can use Assault Bolt Rifles and move 6'' + D6 inches and STILL fire 2 rounds 24 inches.
Blake Robinson
>mfw reading CA leaks on Death Guard
Joshua Stewart
>tfw Blood Angels become a WAAC and then when i show up with my army that took me years to paint for my first game i will be considered a Bandwagoner Loving daddy is pain.
Joseph Reed
And baller swords and a pysker fucking tank transport
Joseph Collins
Heed the Prognosticars, asshole.
Camden Brooks
You're going to be playing a melee marine army. Don't worry no one is going to think your a WAAC player.
Carson Baker
SoB don't have a five +1S force swords variant.
Isaac Murphy
Up your conersion skills, user. Dont settle for mediocrity.
Gabriel Williams
nobody is gonna call you a WAAC because if your army is painted you couldnt of done it that fast
Ian Edwards
In that case it's 100% a Helbrute, just with variant weapon options. It definitely is a valid target for Fire Frenzy.
Noah Martinez
Did you even read my post?
Explain how Prognosticars can give anyone a 2++ aside from Draigo and the champ, the latter being only in melee on the defensive, aka worthless.
Benjamin Anderson
Too much fine detail to convert en-masse really, and I say that as a guy who tried to diversify 30 Necron destroyers a bit.
Kayden Martinez
Is it considered taboo to copy somebody's conversion..?
Sebastian Robinson
Nah, sometimes there's not many options
Logan Gray
>3 attacks
who fucking cares lmao
Colton Foster
Not in the slightest, I know I'd be flattered if someone copied me. Don't know why you'd copy your pic though.
Adam Roberts
>All great art is great theft Definitely not taboo.
Justin Parker
>reposting an image you posted a few generals ago
really
Christian Jenkins
I'm so hyped to fight someone in melee finally. Come Blood Angels, let us punch each other for 5 rounds. Catachans, Psykers, Bullgryns, Assasins and melee Inquisitors. Gay mind powers and mauls everywhere!
Lincoln Wright
Nah - imitation is honestly flattery.
Gavin Parker
>Never gonna make it if you settle for decent Who said I do? I didn't draw that picture and wouldn't consider it finished in that state if I had. It's not shitty though. Your comment actually gave me autism with it's idiocy. Thanks.
Aiden Young
Got any good 3rd party models for the Redcowls or is it kitbash only ?
Evan Morales
Muscle wizard?
Michael Ramirez
Thinking of starting GSC over Christmas. Is this a good starting point?
Colton Bailey
redcowls are literally made from a kitbash
David Perry
Maybe.
Easton Gutierrez
>Jumping to your own defence at an imagined slight Jesus fucking christ get a load of you.
Thomas Rodriguez
>tfw worked from 7am to 7pm today >missed the entire BA reaction I might be shit at 40k, but uh, this looks pretty good. What were y'all's reactions to the preview? I know there was one user last night praying for landspeeder storms, and I see he got his wish.
Ryder Butler
Almost literally Skitarii Rangers with Guardsmen arms. You weren't seriously going to buy a ton of the flak coat the official models use, after all, were you?
Owen Phillips
I'm already prepared for it with my Alpha Legion. Honestly though, fuck it. Anyone that screams "WAACFAG!!1" isn't worth your time.
Elijah Moore
>Riding is overrated this edition. Rhinos are fucking awesome what are you talking about?
>You don't need to ride very far when you have an effective 36 inch range. Whoa bolters with more range and ap 1 holy shit. For the price of 8 Intercessors you can buy a tac squad with full plasma, which will kill three times the MEQ, and can hurt hard targets. The intercessors are a bit tougher, but bolters+ isn't much to sing about.