Appeal to children because kiddies mommies and daddies have more money

>appeal to children because kiddies mommies and daddies have more money
>lose all of your long time fans who have sustainable income
>lose all your good writers/designers
>kiddies grow up
>grow out of the games which are now designed for kids
>no more money
>desperately try to appeal to your old fans again
>release shit like "chapter approved" for nostalgia appeal
>no one buys it
>stock dying
>staff quitting
>outright lying in meetings with investors
>rumours of backroom staff not getting paid

Where were you when these fucking idiots got exactly what they deserved?

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I have literally zero sympathy for this company.

I'm just now getting into 40k....what happened?
I heard they are trying to be more 'inclusive' and 'diverse' now which is a red flag of what happened to the video game industry.

our lfgs manager dropped a red pill on us last week, hes given up, handing in his notice

he gets contradictory emails from head office, bureaucratic hell, "do this, don't do this" and then the other email 30 mins later "change all displays to last weeks display scheme" and then "ignore previous message"

then a visit from a suit to check if he followed the instructions the next day, no idea which set he was supposed to follow

A million different things
but what this user is complaining about is that GW adopted a pump-and-dump marketing strategy focused on attracting and extracting max profit out of newcomers while alienating enfranchised players leading to high player turnover and customer dissatisfaction.

>ITT: Bootyblasted 12 year olds get angry at a company doing better than ever.

I mean how pathetic do you have to be to make literal lies on the internet.

You know it won't bring WHFB back.

source this shit, motherfucker

If you're only just getting into 40k, get out. There's better games out there.

I'll bite.

What games?

why should I get out? I'm kind of dissapointed now. should I get into war machine instead? what happened that I need to know?

>doing better than ever

I did my econ thesis on Games Workshop user, they are not doing better than ever. They have closed 20 stores, some of which have been open for more than a decade.

Two major investors have pulled out and released public statements on the matter, I reccomend you take a look.

take a look at the catalog of Veeky Forums, theres dozens of games out there

...

Found the poor fag. My shares in GW are going up by the day. I bought chapter approved which I LOVE and I might treat myself to a Forgeworld model for Christmas.

You mad breh?

Post it then.

Hey look, it's that shareholder folio which caused two investors to quit because it's basically outright lies.

>There's documentary evidence of the point I'm trying to make, which I will cite as evidence that I am right
>But you can go find it yourself because fuck you.

Seems legit.

OPs probably just mad his friend's BA army will stomp his with their new codex.

Literally 30 seconds on google. If you're that lazy why should anyone help you?

>>that shareholder folio which caused two investors to quit because it's basically outright lies

Can you deliver a source for that claim?
I'm seriously interested.

Oh you mean people like Richard Beddard?

Who's argument is literally "Waaaah GW are doing restructuring I am angry at this"

Who by the pay pulled out at 2016, Before the massive increase in Sales profit and Growth.

Also, FYI, GW are opening new stores in the UK.

Best thing you can do as a new 40k player is ignore the shitposting on Veeky Forums.

What a coincidence, I quit 3 months ago. Somewhere around when we got a letter in the post telling us how to paint models for in store use.

Because you know, we weren't doing it right apparently.

I met someone while on manager training, getting an ASSM job at an independent stocker in my same city, and i've encouraged the two other guys who worked there to apply.

With any luck soon that store will be run by a 45 year old who's only been playing the game for 6 months, and a bunch of new kids on the block.

Because you're the one making the claim

Literally no sources. user's talking out his ass instead of studying for his micro final which he knows he's going to fail.

Especially since every google thing I bring up has names like Mark Rogers, the Head of UK investing at Motley Fool, basically saying GW's massive Profit increase still has room for growth and GW is extremely good to invest in.

Yeah this shit is getting pretty unbearable. The christmas displays have gone up, been taken down, and gone up again and it's only just turned december. Who the fuck is actually in charge, and whos emails am I supposed to actually listen to? Our bs is taking the "just do everything every email says" approach, I guess they think we can't get in trouble if we do every set of instructions in the order we get them. It's like the fucking red army in 1944.

This. It's not my responsibility to prove your point.

Spot the Americlap stores.

>someone who has sunk a huge investment into a company and wants to get out is encouraging people to invest in a company

What a surprise.

>in the post
You're a special one.

Same shit here. Feels like there's no one guiding this ship sometimes. We've lost two staff of four this year, one still hasn't been replaced. I'm working 6 days a week.

spot the salty yuropoor

>"Wants to get out"

I think you are probably the most autistic person ever, GW literally doubled their stock price in one quarter.

That's literally a economic miracle. You don't do things like that by fudging numbers, especially in things like the London Stock Exchange.

What GW are you even talking about then?

To be fair GW Stores haven't been ideal for a while. They are run like mattress stores, but with more bureaucratic meddling.

>Argues about a European Company
>Y-Yuropoor

So you're pretty much confirming this is a /pol/ gaslight thread.

>work in scottish store
>last two internals didn't even mention scottish stores once
>speak to HQ on the phone
>what store are you calling from
>ive never heard of that store is this a prank
>youre not on our system goodbye
>hang up

Sure feels good to feel loved...

ITT: Retail employees complaining about retail.

You fuckers are lucky grognards need a communal place to play, otherwise UPS would have put you on unemployment. I pray no manager ever has to endure your incompetence with anything actually important.

Gonna be honest.

GW stores are not fucking hard to run. Literally one till, super niche items on stock, Always just single doorway entrances.

I have met tons of Ineffectual managers who simply cannot run one of the easiest stores to run ever conceived.

I've been a manager for 6 years, and that's the best analogy I've ever heard. Difference is if you work in Dreams or something like you get to lie down on a mattress when you're not busy, not 5 quid cheap plastic chairs with no lumbar support.

Ok, I'll rephrase. What games with actually someone who I can play against?

I think I found him.

The store itself is easy to run, it's the customers. Not all of them, but you know which ones.
We've recieved special training on how to deal with customers with mental disabilities.
Name any other retail store on earth where their staff have to undergo what is essentially a 3 hour course on how to deal with an autistic meltdown.
I run the store 4 hours out of 5 days a week, and guarunteed, I will have to act like a nursery school minder at least once a week.
That and breaking up kids fighting over rules despite the fact theyre being specifically written for children to be able to understand.

Our course was a lot longer than 3 hours, or are you just talking about the day dealing with autism spectrum disorder?

I spent 3 days living in a Premier Inn learning how to deal with spoilt brats, essentially. At least we got paid for it.

Honestly, when GW dies I'll be glad to see it go. I know two people at the store who buy exclusively recasts online or printed stuff just so they don't give us any money, and I seriously don't blame them.

You're not special, I used to Manage an Argos.

Same shit, but you don't have to worry about Stock issues and your suppliers being literal cockmonglers.

>Name any other retail store on earth where their staff have to undergo what is essentially a 3 hour course on how to deal with an autistic meltdown

LEGO

Your job's not hard. You're just disappointed you're not as important as you thought you'd be.

>I seriously don't blame them

Please tell me your GW so I can report it then.

Is... lego a shop? I don't think you get exclusively lego shops do you?

Battletech.

lego.com/en-us/stores

We've been waiting 3 weeks for someone's £200+ order to arrive. I've been calling CS every single day. It's fucking embarassing.

If it's out of stock, then say that. Don't let these orders just pile up while you make the customer wait for you to find the shit or make more.

Yeah, it feels like a damn car dealership lmao

Depends where you live. If you are in a large city/metro area then there will probably be historical and other miniature groups at the flgs's.

I moved out temporarily to a less urban place and all people play is 40k and infinity.

Nothing worse than someone who can barely fit through the door screaming about his sisters not being here in 3 days like the website promised.

What in a GW store? That's slim pickings.

Imagine having half your hours cut down because you manage to hit your Quotas.

Argos punish you for hitting your goals. At least you don't need to push insurance and cards.

except it appeals to kids. which feels pretty damn sleazy.

As soon as a staff member leaves, we get stuck on 40 hour weeks. As soon as they hire a new one, back down to a 0 hour contract and the new guy gets daily shifts for training.

Try budgeting on that income.

Toy Stores operate the same way.

yeah but most toy stores dont have a salesman holding the box in front of the kids face, with training on how to sell to kids

You haven't been to Toy Stores recently.

Budget on your average when you have new staff and stack when you get 40.

It's not hard. Even high school kids figure it out.

At least you're given the hours. Are your hours based not only on How big your stock inflow is, but also based entirely on how much Credit card and product care you sell.

Like legit, they changed it so it's not even £ wise now, it's literally "What % of sales did you get did you get product care on"

Our store hired a woman for the first time this year. She quit in a month. Apparently she thought she was used to it after spending a day or two a week here. She had no idea what the daily grind was like.

Look into Saga, or Bolt Action or Drop zone Commander

>Historicals and a fucking Epic scale game

Historicals have the best community bar none.

Also the highest percentage of white supremacists.

Hard pass.

>yfw when you warcrimes the well to do

>Paint your Germans an ever so slightly different colour of tan or Grey.

>Entire club goes into an Autistic frenzy

You know, unless you encounter wehraboos.

>He fell for the feldgrau meme

That's why they're the best though

I never said I was being historically inaccurate, I said that Historicals are fucking Autistic retards best left well enough alone so their kind can die off slowly.

>>no one buys it
>>stock dying
>>staff quitting
>>outright lying in meetings with investors

Meanwhile while In reality
thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-5135791/Games-Workshop-gearing-sharp-rise-sales.html

>Games Workshop gears up for sharp rise in sales and profits as revival that sent shares up 150% in a year continues
>Nottingham-based group expecting half year sales of around £109m, up 54%
>Operating profits expected to be around £38m, up from £13.8m
>Share price up over 6%, having seen an increase of over 150% in a year
>According to FactSet figures, the performance of Games Workshop's shares make it the top stock on the FTSE All-Share Index over the last year.

>stock dying
>lying to investors

What the hell are you on about? GW has never been more profitable, their stock have never been higher, and they have never been more successful.

But a few bad managers and investors who missed the stock soar said bad things!

The point was that historical players usually understand that modern uniforms varied in shades and no one really cares unless you do something ridiculous.

>That's why they're the best though
Racism aside, anyone who's obvious about it is typically low-class, broke as fuck, and doesn't always have engaging interests.

I don't need to hear about how black people are mooches while also bragging about your "brand new" truck you traded your sister's bf a $400 AR for (cause ya know, the gubmint has 5.56 too high anyway).

40k is full of White supremacists, they all play Space Marines.

I'll take things that never happened for 500 Alex!

>Anonymous 12/03/17(Sun)10:55:21 No.56743409(You)
>40k is full of White supremacists

On Veeky Forums. At my local store it's mostly just kids.

What is this dumbfuck talking about

Everything is full of white supremacist if you dig hard enough. 95% they're easy to spot and avoid anyway. Sooner or later they drop their spaghetti and look ridiculous.

And I say that as a fairly racist person. But I played against (admittedly very rare) black guys, and there wasn't any problem whatsoever.

It's the social retards you have to watch, no matter the activity. The proportion of dumbass and cunts is the same everywhere.

I mean don't get me wrong, Games Workshop manages its stores terribly, it has very low employee satisfaction, and probably sucks to work for at least on the showroom floor. Also they are miss managing, or rather, purposefully bilking their specialist products like necromunda. However if we are discussing the success of the company itself, there is really no room for argument and they are performing better than they have in possibly the entire history of the company as a publicly traded syndicate. Their value has tripled in one year's time

The Media praised Enron stock, the dot com bubble of the 90s, and a whole lot of other failed ventures. It's called pumping the stock. You release some lies, get the stock value up, then dump it before the ponzi scheme comes crashing down.

top kek

what a whiny cunt

I like how no one disputes that historicals are full of white supremacists, but instead acts like that's a good thing.

>someone has no idea how stocks are manipulated

>GW is horrrible at management
>Their value has tripled in one year's time

This is the classic sign of a pump and dump operation.

The Enron scheme was a very special and unique case that also resulted in the changing of many laws. I'm not saying that Games Workshop isn't necessary a bubble, and they may still deflate, however you may rest assured that their current growth and profits are very much real.

That may be but it does not change the fact that the company is performing exceptionally well for its investors. Now does this have long-term benefits? That is up for question. I would argue that no publicly traded company really can perform and it wise and future-proof matter due to fiduciary responsibility. The simple fact is that despite the laws surrounding at, no company can really experience Perpetual growth year after year with no break or stagnancy. The issue there of course lays within the laws that govern are publicly traded companies. Such laws exist to protect investors from swindlers and embezzlers, however they emphasize and promote predatory practices amongst the company themselves

Historicals are not full of white supremacists. /k/ and /pol/ are, but your average Bolt Action game is not going to be against a goose stepping skinhead with a hitler stache and swastika decorated backpack.

Sure, there are some wehraboos, but hey, germans had some cool tech so its inevitable someone is going to jerk it to a King Tiger. (Not many british players get turned on by their armour options, save the Firefly.)

When it comes to naval, you have people who would suck their own dick for a chance to hump a Yamato, and believe that the belt armor on the Fuso was folded 1000 times for superior japanese craftsmanship. Doesn't mean they think bombing pearl harbor was a smart thing to do.

Anecdotally, I've only met one white supremacist gaming, and it was in WHFB of all games. He played 40k as well (Ultrasmurfs) but that wasn't the game we were playing. He was laughing and telling me this story about how the darkies and the jews secretely controlled the world. I nodded politely and answered my phone then left because I couldn't play with him.

Feeling more feminine vestors perspective Games Workshop is managing it's still as exactly how they should. They are keeping a close eye on their Shelf space and explicitly pushing high-value items that will have a positive effect on their bottom line. This may make them incredibly annoying both to shop at and work for, however and maximize their profits as a niche market boutique store. The size of the market, the limitations of shelf space, and the overhead from maintaining physical stores make Games Workshops business very risky, especially as a niche product

In my personal experience I've only ever run into white supremacist at work, never gaming. Even if someone has awful beliefs like that, doesn't necessarily mean that you have to respond in kind.

Found the Redshirt.

Everyone in this hobby of ours is autistic, regardless of historics or not.

It should be noted that GW stated several times to the investors that it was aiming at long-term goals, not quick bucks. For what it's worth of course, it could show that the company really isn't looking to do toxic practices that would be the easy solutions to make more money (anymore, since they were definitely doing that under Kirby, trying to make some cash as the company was dying).

B- but the SJWs!

I've found historical players to be fun to talk to, most love history and really are good people to chat with.

40k is full of autists, as are similar games in the 40k style. Even in this thread, GW employees are taught to deal with weaponized autism when it walks into one of their stores.

My local historical focused hobby shop never has to deal with that sort of thing.

Remember user, the fact that they decided to paint like 5 black guys over 2 years of releases and made 1 black priest definitely means they are advocating for 36 genders, zoophilia and the end of the white race!

I got into Warhammer as a kid because of pic related. this shit was never serious business.

the real problem is that youre a grown man playing a game designed for children and then complaining that its not mature or edgy enough for your grown up tastes