When did traditonal games get so political?

When did traditonal games get so political?

I just wanted to talk about orcs...

You mean refugees? :^)

When people like you flooded the board with politics and got fun things banned because they were badwrongfun.

Around the time you came here from /pol/ and started spamming your memes.

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Around the time Veeky Forums decided that it would throw a huge shitfit every time something even remotely right of center came up, and attempt to shout down any dissent by autistically replying with no real arguments. Because sure, THAT'S how you get /pol/ to fuck off.

Yeah, sure. It's the others' side fault. What a surprise.
What hypocrisy is that

Actually, Veeky Forums has always handled things right of center. They play fuckin' 40k.

However, it does rightfully throw a fit when you /pol/ folk show up who don't realize that you don't talk about real life politics or religion when you are trying to have fun.

Its the 40k players who make this board be like this, they should get their own board.

don't confuse /pol/ for 40k players, user.
40k has been here far longer than frogs, trumps, and whatever other memes /pol/ wants to try to force.

Wanna solve the problem? Don't respond to /pol/-bait threads or posts. Don't respond to SJW-bait threads or posts. And don't make threads like this.

>don't reply to trolls
The best advice that no one follows.

Test

So, who wants to take bets? How long will it be until frogposter gets himself banned this time?

Because newfags don't realize that Warhammer 40k is satire and that people here are mostly ironic in being hyper religious xenophobic fascists.

Around the time /pol/ became the new furfags, I'd say the new /mlp/ but even /mlp/ at least had the common courtesy to stay in their containment board most of the time

WE SEE YOU YOU LITTLE FAGGOT DONT THINK YOU CAN HIDE TOUR TEST FROM US

HEY LOOK GUYS THIS user IS TESTING SOMETHING

EVERYBODY POINT AND LAUGH

Fixed

Agreed. If there is one thing you should learn before going to the internet, it's this law. Not following it should earn you mandatory attendance to "how not to be an idiot online 101"

The worst part of this, is the original with street sharks and hot babes is unironically the best possible configuration.

Basically there are a lot more shitposters from /pol/ now who see it as their manifest destiny to redpill everyone else on Veeky Forums.

And by redpill I mean shitpost and ruin Veeky Forums.

Its literally the least political board I frequent, by a mile. But, whether you like it or not people are a little obsessed with politics and that trickles into a lot of places. And when you tell people who express any right wing opinion to "go back to pol", it tends to piss them off and make them want to stay. Because, shockingly, not all conservative people on the site come from /pol/.

Its also worth noting that there is no lefty equivalent of "go back to pol" around here... so its fairly obvious that the people who use it are just libs or left-leaning centrists who are uncomfortable with contrary opinions.

The trolls shouldnt be there in the first place

This.
Also Veeky Forums has started to take everything far more personally in the last year or two

>no lefty equivalent of "go back to pol"
sometimes you might see a mention of "leftypol" (or however it's spelled), a leftist board on twotimes4chan

>Its also worth noting that there is no lefty equivalent of "go back to pol" around here... so its fairly obvious that the people who use it are just sick of /pol/tards shoehorning complaints about muslims and trannies into every thread on the roleplaying board

Correct.

SJWs infested the hobby a couple years back and like everything else they touch, decided to fuck it up for everyone.
Then Veeky Forums got a Reddit influx and got filled with retards who scream "/pol/!" at everything they don't like and went further to shit. And of course OP, you're the evil /pol/ man too, you used the very offensive frog picture and hurt the anons feelings.

You're on the wrong site.

I don't think regular, well-adjusted right-wingers run around looking for jew analogies in fantasy settings, user. Atleast not the ones I know.

Yeah pretty much my thought too.

>folk
Could you at least try?

This. Im a literal oldfag and i feel agenda shoved down my throat every day from all directions, left right and center.
When you grow up a bit youll feel the same... then again, i dont think most of you will ever grow up

This 100%
People need to stop being so aggressive or else it radicalizes people even more.

If you keep calling someone who's a conservative a NAZI then he might just become one

>When did traditonal games get so political?

Everything is political. And since it's a global world, there's no place to go to get away from the dissenting side.

Unless/until one side subjugates/exterminates the other, or we lose the ability to communicate via mass and social media, this will never end.

The entire world, and the United States specifically, is going through a cultural transition phase. It's on a lot of minds nearly nonstop, and people have devolved into ideological factions always looking for a fight; this dramatically exacerbated by the prevalence of the internet. Anyone blaming a single "side" for this shit is most assuredly a faction member of the opposition. If you bring up /pol/ shit all the time, you're a faction goon. If you bring up how much you hate /pol/ shit all the time, you're a faction goon. All these people fucking hate each other, but all do the same shit.

Within 5 years the dust will start to settle and we'll begin to approach a new status quo. And it will probably take longer than that because institutions tend to lag behind by several years.

>anything that isn't deep throating the SJW propaganda is /pol/ shitposting

>If you keep calling someone who's a conservative a NAZI then he might just become one

Then kill him too. Along with the communists. Fuck both ends of the horseshoe; the middle outnumbers you both combined and we're getting fucking tired of ALL extreme party-side shit.

>anyone who's sick of constant /pol/ derails on Veeky Forums is a SJW
Wow that was an easy post to make.

>then kill him too
>we're
So, I'm not sure I agreed on a collective representation for us mid-dwellers, but I'm not sure it would be someone who advocates exterminating people based on political opinion. That's a bit extreme?

>radical centrist extremist

Nazis ain't good for nothing but shootin'

Veeky Forums has gotten really boring when you can accurately predict what kind of replies you'll get. Why even bother posting at that point?

I was never implying that it's okay for /pol/ to spread its propaganda here.
But I think speaking out against clearly hamfisted ideals in our games is a completely acceptable. If we the fans don't speak out against ideologies we don't like, invading our hobby for a few extra bucks, then the hobby will die due to a lack of valid feed back.

I detest the push for "inclusivity and diversity" in games like magic, 40k and DND; it's a a pushed agenda and it's ruining the core content of the material

No, killing Nazis isn't extreme. Grandpa had it right

because everything is political in 2017 despite no one anywhere knowing at all what they are talking about

>Veeky Forums has gotten really boring when you can accurately predict what kind of replies you'll get. Why even bother posting at that point?
Luckily with our mod moving all the fun interactive threads to /qst/, we have a backup board.

To add, anytime this valid feedback is given, you get called a NAZI /pol/ shit poster and when you hear it long enough you just say fuck it, I guess I'm a NAZI now.

Core content was political in its own way and is just being replaced by something better. DnD is doing way better thanks to this, magic and then 40k is next.

>Im a literal oldfag

That's odd. You type like a twelve year old.

Feeling bad about Dresden was a mistake

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This would be true if the word Nazi still meant "German National Socialist" and not "people I disagree with on a few topics."

>tfw you unironically miss the 90s
Anyone who thinks token minorities is evidence of SJW conspiracy is a certifiable newfag

>German

Fuck off Nazi

You wear a swastika, you don't get to complain when I kill you

This, i frequent Pol but i keep pol on pol.
Sometimes i see ppl here get flak and "back to pol" responses for expressing non left opinions where the same opinions would get called cuck/bluepilled on pol.

>anytime this valid feedback is given, you get called a NAZI /pol/ shit poster
Pro-tip, speaking out against token inclusiveness by shouting WE WUZ KANGS is not valid feedback

You realize that 40K has always been maximum left, right? The guys who think the Imperium are role models to be emulated are retarded.

guy you're accusing of being a NAZI
>hey let's just be mindful of the fact that we disagree on a few things

You
>GENOCIDE THEM ALL

Then why is 40k community not kicking out those people. They are letting them run the place.

Oh shit, look out nazis
>read: anyone i disagree with

You sound like the violent radical

How the fuck do you kick people out of tabletop?

In a culture war, all aspects of culture become subject to the political.

No, I'm not talking about memes. I'm talking about changing preexisting lore to fit with the SJW agenda. I'm talking about gutting real content and depth in favor of cheap marketing toward the LGBT community. I don't have a problem if this stuff is done tastefully and with respect to the material, but instead it's completely forced and devoid of any real quality while clashing with the base conception of the core material.

The decline of quality at marvel is a great example of this.

Veeky Forums is completely incapable of ignoring trolls
always has been

modern bait is typically political, and gives easy (you)s to those desperate for that kind of attention

>you wear a swastika
Except nobody does.

>"Guys you're just using Nazi to mean 'person I don't agree with'"
>wears swastikas and shouts Heil Hitler while marching in SS cosplay

Get bombed

>strawmanning this hard in order to avoid valid criticism of board culture

Well too bad, they're gonna be there always. Now remember what is common sense. Sticks and stones and, no one is forcing you to respond to a troll. A troll feeds off attention, ignore it and it goes away.

>I detest the push for "inclusivity and diversity" in games like magic, 40k and DND; it's a a pushed agenda and it's ruining the core content of the material

I cant speak for 40K or DND but MtG this social inclusive shit is just harmless virtue signaling. We havnt had a good standard in ages because WotC is being pushed by faceless suits in Hasbro to keep a 3% growth on profits. My issue is with the cards always being midrange value-factories that lead to a standard that has a diversity of cards playing the same midrange deck in different colors. The fact that theres a nigger on my removal spell doesnt even register when Im using it to get rid of a Mythic that could have just been named "the $30 bill" because
>Midrange value cards test positively with our focus groups, so make more of those and make them better

That's completely contrived...

What the hell are you on about?

Me thinks a troll. Just leave it under the bridge.

For me, my I was just becoming a teenager around 2008-2009, so that's always going to be greenzone for what things should be like.

>It didn't happen!

Kill a lying Nazi today

2007-2011 was fucking comfy.

In my campaign setting, it's the drow who are refugees, fleeing an awful civil war that's broken out in the Underdark as the matriarchy of Lolth is finally collapsing in on itself.

Orcs are going through a different set of problems; namely that the Last Horde got crushed before it could do any significant looting or plundering, thanks to the other races embracing gunpowder. Entire tribes of orcs have been wiped out, nearly an entire generation of young orc men and women are dead and gone, their carcasses long having since rotted away. The Orcish Domain is full of orcs that are either too old or too young, with precious few able-bodied adults left.

A lot of them are moving east, though, having heard of a new goblinoid nation, the Haraskan Empire, looking for food and work. The Empire will likely be glad to take them in, though, since it's a young nation that could use migrants, especially to bolster its defenses against a nearby dwarf kingdom that's determined to wipe them out.

...yeah, I know no one is actually going to read this, but I can live and hope.

>apoliteia is right-wing

makes you think

>...yeah, I know no one is actually going to read this, but I can live and hope.
I skipped over your first three paragraphs, but I read the last line.

>implying it isn't year after year of shitty contrived events, catering to the movie crowd, Hollywood-style character reboots, company cutdowns and bad leadership that are killing Marvel

ITT: motte and bailey fallacies and trolling

>posting multiple infographs about nigger IQ scores in a thread about dragons is shitposting
Come on user, you're almost there!

Plus the second Magic "big set", Mirage block, was set in not!Africa, and the first Magic expansion was Arabian Nights. Magic has always been inclusive.

This, changing things to appeal to a small group of vocal asshats that 90% of the time don't even play the game/hobby to any serious extent further supported by a bunch of betas that just want pussy, so virtue signal and support the asshats. Their concerns are so disconnected from rhe rest of the players that when a change happens players are blindsided and don't understand why. This Sjw shit in gaming gets the same response political correctness gets, It's fucking cancer.

Someone post that image, the life cycle of a hobby.

The problem is that virtue signaling quickly becomes policy.

See the comic book industry

It's the focus of their content
See:

It wasn't "inclusive". It was just doing cool stuff because it was interesting and creative. It wasn't picking content to appeal to demographics.

Whats wrong with appealing to demographics?

They're demographics he doesn't like

It makes very little difference if the choice was because it was interesting or because of demographics.The end result still was that you ended up with something which could be considered inclusive.

Man, you should see the shit that WoD has fallen to. Around 2013, same time RPG.net turned into the pit of cancer it is now, they went from "Gay people probably aren't the Devil" progressive to full on "Chug so much koolaid you look like a Tumblr parody"
The fluff has gone to shit, the quality of the company has gone to shit. I just want to play a goddamn game about Werewolves and Wizards, not hear about the evils of Republicans, non organic food and people saying mean things online, along with the oppression of several made up genders and sexual orientations the devs made up this week. Which have all been included as actual things, this is not shitposting.

>A small group of vocal asshats that 90% of the time don't even play the game/hobby
...So, /pol/?

I read it and thought it sounded cool, so don't worry user.

Then he is free to leave, nobody forces you to play anything if they can't get over the company wanting to attract bigger audiences.

Besides every company in the world has always used demographics, it's a handy tool to reach the market you want to expand in, to complain about demographics is to not understand how companies work.

>no lefty equivalent
>>>/tumblr/
>>>/reddit/

That's what we've all been saying but he keeps bitching that the changes are badwrongfun, you know, like those Sjws he won't shut the fuck up about

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What the fuuuuck

If that's the focus of your creation, then it will lack character and creative flux. This is an old idea in content creation.

It's okay to tailor your work to your audience, but to create works to draw in a certain audience is
a) deceptive
b) alienates the core fan base
c) creates content dependent on the consumer and not the other way around

c leads to a lot of problems, like a DM who makes all his decisions based on player input.
> (Give us jet packs!)

Cape shit is dying because teeny bopper writers cant think of a plot furthur than their virtue signaling and making a mass appeal blockbuster movie. With MtG the virtue signaling is a symptom of Hasbro demanding record profits at the expense of the quality of the game. The game isnt losing numbers because some thot got patrolled or because someone used a decade old conviction to ban a guy that styled on him. Its dying because the last 10 standards have been "3-5 color Midrange: the Gathering" and because we have had 2 good draft sets in the last 3 years. Not "thank fuck we are out of BfZ" good, just good in general.

The intention matters a ton.

Though I'd agree; good content is inherently inclusive but will almost ever focus on inclusivity.

Jesus Christ literally every point in this post is wrong