Refugee from /v/ here

While you're going to find a lot of /v/ and /pol/ toxicity on Veeky Forums (and boy howdy there is a lot of it) you'll probably find a lot of Veeky Forums nerds who are nicer and friendlier compared to /v/irgins for two simple reasons.

One, even with online tabletops most of our hobby is face to face. Much of /v/ can perform all their multiplayer exclusively through the internet. When your hobby requires personally socializing with actual people you develop a habit of treating people in online mediums the same way when it comes to your hobby. This isn't always the case, but it happens enough to affect Veeky Forums conversation.

Two, an overwhelming number of our games are alarmingly cooperative compared to /v/. Even versus games like wargames and cardgames tend to encourage a game be less about winning so hard your opponent never wants to touch a deck/army again and more about having a good time, learning from losses and engaging in some semblance of sportsmanship, which /v/ wholeheartedly lacks.

Competitive nerds who haven't built a grasp of sportsmanship are in fact the worst kind of human beings. We don't entertain a high enough percentage of them in our population here because that usually turns you into That Guy.

I've been here a month and nobody has called anyone a cuck or a soyboy yet it is very difficult to comprehend

We like insults that don't make you sound 14.

are there anymore pdfs like this one?

What games do you play?

Veeky Forums is protected by its patron saints.

They don't do a particularly good job, but it's better than nothing.

>Why is everyone on this board so helpful?
>Why aren't you always shitting on each other?

Have you been in literally any other thread on the board?

check out

To be fair, what we consider a hostile thread is bread and butter for where OP is from.

Veeky Forums is frighteningly still one of the okay boards, even if we're not the best one anymore.

The worst part is that the people who are pretending to be helpful by suggesting other systems are actually spreading the most misinformation and blatant lies.

Thinking about it now, I don't think there's a single mention of soyboy or cuck, and there is not a single person telling anyone else to commit suicide.

What do you consider the "Best Boards"?

Maybe because our hobbies, Tabletop Wargames, Roleplaying Games etc. are even more autistic than yours. Not that this is bad, I actually think its the reason for beeing nicer, from my experience, just measuring by the way how people communicate with each other, /d/ is one of the nicest boards.

This. Veeky Forums's not as good as we used to be five years back, but I think we're still doing alright.

Don't drag that discussion over here, let it die quietly. Anyone can see it's full of trolls.

I've had nothing but good experiences on Veeky Forums, /diy/ and /out/, so maybe them.

I miss /fitlit/ from the crossover thing.

>Veeky Forums

I once admitted to liking Sriracha. I had no idea it was an inflammatory subject there.

That might be the case with our board too, in the sense that what's an inflammatory topic here is not so evident to outsiders.

Soyboy cuck kill yourself.

>Sleep requires a metal spike, that is driven into the victim’s brain to keep them comatose.

Muscle Wizard detected.

>Because the average age of /v/ is probably 15, here it's probably 25+
This is a biiiiig part of it.

Any gaming community with teenagers in it is going to be shitty by default.

HOW WILL FLUMPH EVER RECOVER

I post on both. Veeky Forums has no idea how bad things could possibly be. At the time of this posting there's a couple system war threads, no less than four "this is my waifu say something nice about her" threads, a handful of "this popular game is bad" threads, and a porn thread.
This is a good day for /v/, as there's currently no "nintendo wojak getting sucked up into golden sonybro's ass while the OP is filled with VRRRRRRR WHIIRRRRRR CHK OH GOD PLEASE HELP SHLOOOOORK" threads.

>nothing but good experiences on /out/
Fucking what?

Admittedly my last sojourn there was quite a while ago.

/get/ /out/ /side/, check it out, it's a cool place.

Scrabble and Cluedo are my big two at the moment.

"Veeky Forums: you don't need other boards any more."

That used to be sort of a tagline for this board but over the last 5 years or so we've been on the decline. Mods have slowly banned more and more of the topics that made this board, in my opinion, fun as hell. We're still better than most boards on this site all things considered.

That was just a slogan used by shitposting trolls to try and defend their offtopic shitposting.

Some of my fondest memories of this board was from that offtopic shitposting.

What would the Veeky Forums equivalent of golden wojak anal vore threads be?

>That might be the case with our board too, in the sense that what's an inflammatory topic here is not so evident to outsiders.
That's probably true of all the boards to some degree. On /tg it's saying that AoS looks neat, or not being able to identify a well-balanced longsword. On /v it's comparing consoles or saying you thought Breath of the Wild was pretty satisfactory. On /co it's mentioning anything critical about comic art styles in any context. On /tv it's missing a crucial sopranos reference. And so on.

In all cases, you need to lurk a bit before you can figure out what the hell's going on.

>mods banning shit
Acceptable losses that prevented us from getting the full force of the autism storm that hit /tv/ and /co/.

"Why haven't you stopped playing D&D" threads.

40K threads, I guess?

I would like to still agree with this phrase and blame the mods, but really, when 24/7 general threads start forming and thing like quests became a set number in the board (even if small), I can't say it doesn't make sense to start cutting some of the fat.

>On /tg it's saying that AoS looks neat, or not being able to identify a well-balanced longsword.
Recommend D&D 3.5 to someone and watch the shit fly.

Some of that offtopic shitposting was better than the actual thread.
I remember many many threads where people would be having upwards of two conversations at once, all happy and nice, discussing weird shit like thermodynamics in the same thread as the practical effects of elf slavery. it was nice when people cared.

I'd say so. Stat me threads and 'how do I X in d20' are things that can trigger flame wars but are also kind of innocuous newbie things, for example.

Seriously. For as much as Veeky Forums pines for a distant golden age at least we're not swamped by low energy template threads to the same degree /v/ is. Right now it's pretty much adventure guild bitching and a Magic shitflinging.

I'd say the "Best Primarch" threads personally.

I'll agree the majority of the things banned were for the betterment of the board but there are a handful of things I do miss. That said I'd rather have a few things I like be banned if it means the rest of the board stays at a fairly reasonable level of sanity.

>Mods have slowly banned more and more of the topics that made this board, in my opinion, fun as hell.
Those threads were badwrongfun and also retroactively not Veeky Forums-related.

Noooo don't hurt the nice flumph they're like Lawful Good, friendly Beholders

>Recommend D&D 3.5 to someone and watch the shit fly.
Or that, sure. Any edition vs edition or system vs system debate is going to generate a lot. Flip side is that those discussions do also often have a lot of good info on the relative merits of games. If you're willing to sift through a little shit, these boards are actually a great place to get turned on to alternative systems, or discuss playing legacy versions of games.

Veeky Forums stopped being good more than an half decade ago.
The "Veeky Forums is the best board" is an outdated meme, and those hypocritical circlejerking meta-threads surely don't help.

If you want to see Veeky Forums at its worst, discuss women.

>there's currently no "nintendo wojak getting sucked up into golden sonybro's ass while the OP is filled with VRRRRRRR WHIIRRRRRR CHK OH GOD PLEASE HELP SHLOOOOORK" threads.
Fuck, I love those. Dumb as they are, they always make me chuckle

>I remember many many threads where people would be having upwards of two conversations at once, all happy and nice
A couple of the more-general, uh, generals still capture that magic most of the time. /hwg, /wbg, /wip and /awg are all on my regular reading list specifically because of that aspect.

>like Lawful Good, friendly Beholders
You mean like weak, retarded and completely useless Beholders. No offense intended if you happen to be a Flumph.

Adventure guilds or "stop playing humans/nonhumans/dnd"

This. One of the most best pastimes on old Veeky Forums was taking a troll thread at face value and do something fun with it. It's that kind of spontaneity we're lacking nowadays, but I can't tell why. What happened to the playfullness? Why this place is so much angrier now?

>If you want to see Veeky Forums at its worst, discuss women.
You've got no idea what you're talking about, user. Go try that exact same thing on /v and compare reactions. Not saying /tg is good, exactly.. we definitely forgot to take our meds, but /v is straight up bouncing around a padded room in a straightjacket on this subject.

Some offtopic discussions are nice, but that's far removed from offtopic shitposting.

Even if our worst is better than their worst, you can't deny the shitflinging that happens once you post a thread that talks about "the SJWs are getting into 40k" or advocating something be done to bring more chicks into D&D or whatever is basically our lowest point as a board.

Whether you wanna post here or not after being in one of those is a good way to measure your ability to handle Veeky Forums.

You're either accidentally or willingly forgetting the thousands of troll threads being unfun shitflinging. I'm all for a more fun Veeky Forums but people really need to remember that we're more than screencaps from 2012. It's just now instead of calling 4e shittwinkie WoW edition you just have to type WE to get the storm brewing.

I for some reason want to blame reddit.
But I can't exactly explain why.
More specifically the type of people on that website.

Virgins? Yes.

>Why is this place so much angrier now?
The world got a lot angrier over the last few years man. Especially after 2016 the internet as a whole reached peak levels of mad. I hope everything cools off eventually.

All community problems come from the new blood and the young blood

>One of the most best pastimes on old Veeky Forums was taking a troll thread at face value and do something fun with it.

>I can't tell why.

Visible sage was removed, timed posting limits, the thread post cap was extended to 300+, and the catalog system. Before, sagebombing was actually possible. Two people could sage bomb a thread with a hundred posts in less than five minutes, and ten people could have a discussion that kills a thread in a similar time.

Now, EPIC DERAILS XD don't do anything except stroke the troll OP's ego by adding to his post count, and prompting him to make a new thread once the old one is finished.

Basically, the only way to deal with troll threads is to report and ignore them, and hope the mods delete them. Sometimes, the mods are good with that. Often, not so much.

Now, if you want to enjoy that same old crazy derailing feeling, do that to legitimate threads, because it's very often that those don't get more than a handful of posts before falling off the board. Even derailing one of those threads for a hundred posts just means bumping it for that period of time, leaving it with another two hundred posts before it reaches the bump limit.

Blame people who want to farm Veeky Forums for (you)s and the stupid people who enable them. Blaming other websites is just a sign that we've lost the ability to self police.

Nah, that's fair. Though I usually just chalk those threads up to leaks in the /pol containment field. Every board has a few of them. The manifestation varies but the core content does not. I mean, if you're talking a particularly crass character art thread going off the rails, or a surprisingly well-documented debate about the merits of boob armor, sure, that's /tg all the way. But a lot of those threads don't have the smell and texture of authentic /tg... they're outsiders, or maybe Outsiders.

Long time /tg natives are usually neckbeards, sometimes fedoras, generally munchkins and almost always a bunch of truly WEIRD motherfuckers, but on the whole we stop short of being actual flesh-and-blood troglodytes.

They generate nothing but horrible misinformation from biased trolls, and pretending otherwise is being no better than the people in /v/.

It's plain and simple mindless system warring. We can discuss system recommendations here, but to go into a system war thread and pretend there's anything worthwhile there is the dumbest thing a person could do outside of going to /pol/ to discuss racism.

>Sriracha.
What's wrong with siracha? It seems like a perfectly acceptable catsup substitute if you prefer spicier foods

>/v/ is contrarian by shitting on popular games
>Veeky Forums is contrarian by shitting on popular systems
>Veeky Forums is contrarian by shitting on popular condiments

>Virgins
Pft, half of the good (and bad) threads come from people that lust after things that aren't real (not for lack of trying).
I mean the inhabitants of Reddit as I see them, Pseudo-Intellectuals and people who try to appear mature, but are actually no more developed than children. Now individual subreddits are fine and dandy on the occasion, but the biggest ones where the site culture takes over are stage five leukemia

I'm blaming the refugees from another website who are the dipshits that take bait. It's a "People flock in too quickly and don't have time to assimilate" issue with both here and /pol/.
("More SJW's in 40k")- Type shit seems to just be cross-posters (You) farming. Holy shit do I miss old Veeky Forums and old /pol/.

I think with /pol/ is that the place has become so radical that the more moderate users go to other boards. (like me)

Check the catalog for the PDF share thread

>This implies that the masses aren't just meme driven NPC's with shit coding and no souls.

The creative people left. Mods drive them out. Not just quests, but writethreads and things like that too.
I didn’t like quests at ALL mind you, but the people on there at least ATTEMPTED to create and interact, and thus were genuinely creative and could improve given time.

It’s basic logic, sort of like how if you stop properly educating kids eventually you’ll get a bunch of stupid adults.

>weak, retarded and completely useless Beholders.
Higher CL than your ass.

/v/ has the worst taste in games with PUBG, Overwatch, and Undertale almost always on page 1
/co/ has the worst taste in cartoons with Adventure Time, Rick&Morty, and Steven Universe taking up half of all discussions
/a/ has the worst taste in anime with nonstop moeshit threads drowning out every other thread
/mu/ has the worst taste in music with everpresent Kanye and Taytay fights
Is Veeky Forums immune to this?

>("More SJW's in 40k")- Type shit seems to just be cross-posters (You) farming.
Definitely. I mean, someone using the term "SJW" sincerely in a post is a pretty sure sign that they are "not from 'round these parts", as a fella says.

>Is Veeky Forums immune to this?
>looks at the number of GW and MTG threads on the board
no, I don't think so.

>>Veeky Forums is contrarian by shitting on popular systems
To be fair, at least one of those systems, Pathfinder, is pretty shit, and GW is retarded with 40K. I have no complaints about 5e and 4e though. The only realy way to make PF interesting and viable is a shitload of homebrew and 3pp rules

fuck off /v/

We have endless bitching about Primarchs, especially with annoying Russfags and Magnusfags just shitting up whole threads with their circlejerk

>Blaming other websites is just a sign that we've lost the ability to self police.
We lost the ability to self-police when Veeky Forums was assigned a mod who identified as a Veeky Forums user.

Having no dedicated Veeky Forums mods and only being held to the global rules was what made classic Veeky Forums such a fantastic board. As soon as we got a mod who thought he understood board culture and knew what was best for "his" board, things started going to shit.

This is because a global mod would see someone hammering the report button on Veeky Forums, look into the thread, say to himself, "Well, it doesn't look like anyone is breaking the global rules", and ignore the thread. Once we got a neckbeard as a mod, he started banning all the fun things that HE personally didn't think were Veeky Forums-related, even if literally every other user on the board considered them board-related. Think of things like "Star Wars is not a traditional game", "Spergling shooped a mod post", and all the other fun and enlightening stickies that we got from Nazimod and his proteges.

There's nothing wrong with it. It's a popular and tasty condiment.

But, there's people on Veeky Forums who call it a meme sauce, a sauce they don't like the flavor of in comparison to lesser known hot sauces, so they get really upset when people talk about it. They need you to know that Bubba's Scorpion sauce or Nia Chiang Shien is the best shit, even though most people don't really like them all that much and those sauces cater to a very niche market. That, and a lot of less-than-great-tasting junk food tie-ins.

It's really not unlike D&D, in the sense that it's a good system, but it gets a lot of undeserved hate because its popularity tends to eclipse everything else in the market, and people who prefer the flavor of other games start to develop the elitist and utterly false opinion that the only people who like D&D are people who have not tried other games. They think they're doing people a favor by being contrarians, when really they're just being petty assholes.

It's one thing to say "Sriracha's not bad, but I prefer something a lot spicier" and another thing to go "Sriracha is baby's first hot sauce, go sip on your memesauce in the corner while we big boys chug expired gasoline."

Well except 40kg General. Cancercells on there reform pretty much every 12 hours at the latest

My first board was Veeky Forums. At some point, I started frequenting /g/ more often than here; recently decided to dump /g/ and stay where I belong.

Veeky Forums is honestly utopian compared with the unironically toxic atmosphere of /g/. Even /trash/ is somehow better than there.

Remember that time a dumb troll picture gave us eight threads of kinda okay worldbuilding?
I miss fun. At least /k/ is still okay 3 AM

ISLAMABAMA LIVES

What patron saints?

>It's really not unlike D&D, in the sense that it's a good system, but it gets a lot of undeserved hate
Depends on the edition, but if you're comparing D&D 3.PF to Siracha, then that is a horrible offense to Siracha!

>I think with /pol/ is that the place has become so radical that the more moderate users go to other boards. (like me)
This. I used to spend all my free time on Veeky Forums having fun making homebrew stuff for Veeky Forums.

Now I can hardly stand this board because of all the /pol/ garbage, and now most of my fun is had making OC on a different board that hasn't been as saturated with /pol/tards.

This.

I've GMed for lots of my friends before. The ones that stuck and became regular players were those who could, basically, get over themselves and play together. It's what makes this community so much nicer than the rest of Veeky Forums, and why I typically avoid competitive multiplayer games.

>baby troll tries

Give it up. There might be systems you prefer more, but trying to call it a bad system is just you being a contrarian.

>This. Veeky Forums's not as good as we used to be five years back, but I think we're still doing alright.
Still needs to bring back the smut though...

>Mods have slowly banned more and more of the topics that made this board, in my opinion, fun as hell.
Indeed...

>Noooo don't hurt the nice flumph they're like Lawful Good, friendly Beholders
>No offense intended if you happen to be a Flumph.
Would you a Flumph?

tg loves W40K, so no.

Have you ever been on 40k General?
There is also that "what if the princess is a lesbian" thread that I think still loves right now.
I swear, whenever a thread has some semblence of lgbt topics or whatever, poltards gonna jump on it with the force of 12000 autismo

/trash/ has a similar atmo to /monster/ in my opinion.
Of "Be nicer to each other because you sought out this deliberately, so you know your a degenerate in good company."

I think you just lack the ability to calm the fuck down and ignore it.

Hell No Hell Yes but only at like 3am on Saturday

Ribbon and Cestree, patron saints of Traditional Games.

Most of the board is adults (25+ years old) compared to /v/ average age of 15
A lot of these adults are total normalfags
There are even a sizable number of actual reddit and tumblr users here, no boogeyman needed.

Personally, I don't have any problem with people from other boards (pol included), coming here. Just (and I'm not talking about you personally here), don't bring your retarded politic bullshit here. I see enough of this shit around me to not have to be bothered by it on the children's game section of this pakistani basket weaving forum