All the Primarchs at least attempt to build their own Ultramar-like realm during the Great Crusade. What are they like...

All the Primarchs at least attempt to build their own Ultramar-like realm during the Great Crusade. What are they like, and what happens to them during/after the heresy?

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>Angronmar
>Literally zero living citizens or intact buildings

Remind me why the Emperor thought giving him a legion was a good idea?

"during the Great Crusade"?

But, user, Ultramar was already a thing before the GC arrived at the Eastern Fringe.

The Emperor intended for a single, streamlined Imperium for all Mankind. I doubt, he would allow the Primarchs to each carve out their own sub-empires.

Not in modern canon. Maccrage only traded with the worlds of Ultramar by the time the Emperor showed up now.

because useful tool XDDDDDD

Might as well keep him chained to a water heater and release him on random planets that need to be fucked up properly.

Isn't that basically what they ended up doing.

He still had enough power to turn his dudes into braindead murderhobos. Curze was the most unstable you should bother with. Angry Ron was a dead man walking, Emp should know well enough that it was a choice between this slaver planet and one of primarchs.

Emps was so good at not giving a single fuck about his sons, he accidentally the Imperium.

Alphamar

Location: Unknown
Year Established: Unknown
Capital: Unknown
Population: Alpharius
Heresy Affiliation: Not even they know

Pertumar
>free tendies for all
>cheap wargame minis
>no imperial fists allowed
sounds comfy

But where's the grimderp? Are tendies made from little babies and paint for minis isn't lead free?

Tendies are handcrafted by secret Imperial Fist slaves attached to torture devices that will fuck them up if they dare do literally anything that isn't making tendies. Is that grimderp enough?

Yep. You should work for BL.

They get purged because that's what the Emperor intended. Horus actually did nothing wrong.

You left out decimation.

Magnusmar probably turns into a big ol' Warp Rift post-Heresy.

"All is dust"

Dornium? Rogalia? fisteeverse?
whatever, doesnt matter.
>all beautifully constructed buildings, which double as fortifications.
>fortress doctrine means something completly different, mostly because no burgaler can penetrate a house's defenses.
>buildings are permanant once built
>everything is gold plated, so much so that reflections of cities can be seen farther than the astronomicon
>strict rules, and even teprements. little emotion is ever shown by the denziens, except when they go on vacation/mandatory sojurn to their version of Vegas
>templarium, a cruel and violent place, full of churches, armories, crusading, purging, and the color black.
>almost no gold to be found, everything is covered in woad ash for pentience
>local administratum lies to Dornium about their population numbers, but never fail to pay their pentient taxes four times over, so they are overlooked.

>Gladitoria, Maw of the City Eaters
A Small Empire based around Nuceria, Angron dictated it be ruled by honor, discipline, and the strength to back up one's perspective. However, one problem remains; When setting up the government, Angron really only gave one command, and that was to never repeat the mistakes of old Nuceria, while never actually explaining what those mistakes were other than the cruelty of the slave arenas. This leaves the mighty warrior kings of Gladitoria in a constant state of confusion, unsure of what exactly Angron meant before he rushes into another war with his fleet. Angron occasional comes back to them, tells them what a good job they are doing, and charges out again almost as soon as he arrived, making the Warrior Kings even more confused.

>Post Heresy
>The Warlords of Gladitoria are even now, still very confused.
>Constant warfare and anarchy around them, but they feel they can't actually do anything about it, lest they turn their backs on Daemon Angron's ancient Will
>Strong, "Keep what you kill" mentality has occasional hotshot warlords challenege the Overlords for their position
>The newly inducted warlord expects to rule with an iron fist, and is immediately beset by the extremely bored and pessimistic warrior kings
>Over time, they slowly explain to the new overlord the issue
>This happens every time a new Overlord is inducted
>Daemon Angron himself will sometimes appear before the Overlords, still telling them what a wonderful job they are doing
>Secretly, each Overlord prays every night to just fall completely to the Nails rather than to deal with the boredom

I fucking love this idea. I would kill for Daemon Angron to boil out of the Immaterium and give me a pep talk about running his hellhole of a planet.

>everything is good plated
>almost no gold to be found
Hmmm

That was Templarium, the Black Templars' sub-sub-empire.

Didn't Dorn actually create a small stellar Empire before the emperor found him?

That was Russ' job. Unlike Angron amd Curze he could be trusted to be the Emperor's sanction.

He couldn't even do that right; instead of just killing people til they agreed to join the Imperium and pay their taxes, Angron just killed all of them. What the Emperor should have done is let Angron loose on xenos threats to the Imperium. I know uniting humanity acorss the galaxy was important but wholesale slaughter is literally the only thing Angron is good for and that's Big E's policy towards aliens.

Because he would absolutely level whatever he was pointed at but Horus told him about a certain guy who makes you even better at it

>Dornistan
>Even the fortifications are fortified
>all the warships are mobile star-fortresses like the Phalanx
Try to invade, chaosfags, I dare you.

While there are some other worlds near Fenris, it is ill suited to be the key to a solar empire.

It is stated plainly in Book 7, Fenris is a world that should not be. It has too eccentric an orbit for an atmosphere to have formed naturally, its natural ecology makes no sense with a dozen varieties of predatory megafauna ripped from ancient Norse mythology, and it has a culture purely ripped from ancient Scandanavia/ early Russia. There are fingerprints of the whole thing being deliberately engineered as a zoo gone way wrong at some point in the Golden Age of Technology, and monkeyed with again after Russ's reunion with the Emperor. The Fang was built, the tribes tampered with further, etc.

But for argument's sake, you could make seven or eight frozen shithole planets inhabited by scattered Iron Age tribesmen living on longships or in barns, killing each other over land and resources, the whole thing overseen by the Sixth Legion as a recruitment and farm team apparatus.

>Ravenmar
Mandatory poem writing.
Poe is the best selling author all year every year.
Mandatory stealth training that went so well, classes don't know whether the teacher is there or not.
Lot of black paint and make up is used.
A raven theme for every occasion.
More poetry and even slams.

Ironhandus 3, Capital of Handimar, named in honor of Iron Hands, leader of the Iron Hands and known for his Iron Hands.

>Sanguinar
>Everything looks pretty
>Damn this all seems pretty nice
>Why does it sound like there's screaming coming from that tower?
>Why is there red liquid flowing out from under that door?

Perturabo's vision of a perfect world from "Angel Exterminatus" is so fucking comfy all of Ultramar can go and unremember itself.

>Curzenar
>everyone's scared to shit

>Alphanar
>there is no such realm

Vulkamar
>everyone is friendly
>lots of arts and crafts classes
>playing with fire is not only allowed, it's encouraged

So Fenris was designed to be the deathliest death world? Why did it get settled in the first place during the DAoT was it some vault tec type of experiment?

Haha good joke Lorgar could never build a stellar empire. If he did, it'd probably get converted to his janky religion and bled dry for legionary recruits and fodder for the cultist hordes. Ultramarines would probably destroy it in the Scouring.

he did, it did, they did

Lorgar was so gay. Faggot couldnt do anything right.

Humans during DAoT had so OP tech that no deathworld was uninhabitable for them. So they probably just settled there for whatever reason, and then shit went to hell, and now there are no wolves on Fenris.

>pretty much engineered the Heresy
>couldn't do anything right

It would be a copy of their homeworlds but bigger.
Except for Angron. His empire would crumble due to the lack of infrascture and would be based on only a single world

What about Curze, cant imagine him having an empire

...

>Implying Perturabo could make his perfect world
Perturabo's such a fuckup that any world he makes would probably turn out worse than Nostramo.

>Failed to overthrow the emperor
>Imperium survives
Yeah, can't do anything right.

I'm with . The HH was such a gigantic fuck up itslike an episode of the 3 stooges. Dipshits couldnt even work together.

>Curzemar
More of a playground for Curze anyways. An empire that is kept completely inline by paranoia and fear. Night Lords are constantly deployed randomly to keep them in line. Everyone is miserable.

After the Horus Heresy, the Night Lords completely abandon the realm of Curzemar to the fleets of the Imperium. The realm descends to anarchy while the Imperial navy enacts exterminatus.

Not only that:
>imperium now has as State religion the religion he founded but turned against in favour of chaos after Big E punished him

How is that counted as a win? If anything thats a huge failure as he betrayed his own faith

Don't think he was defending Lorgar, think he was adding to his failure.

>Lionmar
>lots of green forests
>knights with bright heraldry
>ladies with large bosoms and flowers in their hair
>grand tournaments

Oh fuck that was Caliban and it got blown apart

>tfw

He did
The Inwit Cluster.

Also depending on which BL hack you believe Dorn also either built or found the Phalanx.

ferrusmar manusmar

>there are literally no cripples whatsoever
>nobody is 100% organic, though
>lots of gunmetal
>all time forge sounds
>everyone is a blacksmith
>hungry? go to the foodsmith
>pain on the back? go to the spinesmith
>debate is encouraged as long as it's done inside a forge
>but everywhere is a forge or an armory

>Lion
>liking ladies

Hes a homo user.

For how many decades have you been telling this joke. Has anyone laughed yet?

>Primarch named after a faggot poet
>legion named after said poets most famous poem
>poem is about hiding his homo sexuality from the public
>flagship is named after gay bar near GW's first headquarters

Its not a joke user. Lion is queer as fuck.

Ravenmar eventually births a Chaos God of melancholy brooding. The ripples of this new deific entity's birth throw an entire segmentum into a short period of mild depression.

>he thinks the Lion being gay is a joke
Fucking newfags

>short period of mild depression.
I'm sure 99% of people living on affected hive cities won't notice.

>Lorgarmar
A funny name for Holy Terra. Earth and the Imperium are basically "if Lorgar remained loyal"

What was Pert's perfect world?

>Spinesmith

That sounds metal as fuck

Mortarion only got his full Daemonhood after making a new plague planet/garden of nurgle for his legion to live in after the heresy

It's probably a pretty chill place to live, if you're happy with nurgle's way of life.

Maybe it’s a play on the fact they are secretive and hide secrets?

>pic is you

secrets like being gay lmao. Lion is a faggot man, its long established canon. No need to get so booty blasted about it.

Maybe you'd have a point if there was only references to the poet and his secret desires and all that.

But the gay bar reference? come on.

Fuck off dogfucker

I wonder who could possibly be behind these posts?

>Huh, normally the blood gets off on the third floor

>lots of green forests
Nigga had PTSD about trees. I wouldn't be the reason for the Dreadwing was to herbicide the shit out of any world they came to

>Wolfmar
>National Anthem youtu.be/Jw6KRkx0vNg
>Everyone is required by law to have a detailed fursona
>Psykers are unregulated as long as they can meet the Rune Priest standard of bullshit excuse-making
>All Forge Worlds must be called Fur Foundries
>Region boasts about it's incredible martial prowess and is constantly threatening its neighbours despite being comparatively tiny and having no real successes to it's name
>Wolves are legally people and can be married by Russ

Lionmar would be called Thundara. Also it wouldn’t be an overt thing, it would be a shadow government, ready to take over the second before the imperium collapsed. A government waiting in the closet, if you will.

Based and Comfy

Why is Veeky Forums able to come up with better fluff for the Primarchs than Black Fucking Library?

could also be some heretic stuff about some guy who uses spines to make weapons
that's the sort of stuff chaos would do

Serves them right for being such insufferable arrogant retards

A big Nostramo.
Not really that weird. Curze's way of war were very usefull at empire building

I'm just picturing the Imperium discovering a portion of the galaxy cut off for thousands of years to find that in this system they have named every born child Alpharius.

Dude, as a DA player myself, I can confirm he is homo as fuck.

The question is why does that matter and why are you so fucking defensive about it?

Is he any less bad ass because he liked men?
Spartans had homosexual tendencies as well, are they less for it?

I see what you did there

>Chaos god of melancholy brooding and self loathing is birthed.
>Fueled by depression and despair, he ventures to make sure thathe has loyal servants to command.
>First thing he notices is that no one worships him directly, and their depression gives him strength.
>Fading in and out of the immaterium at will, he goes to some of his most depressed "Followers" and tells them to keep it up, as well as gifting them with his own poetry and his own made-up curse words.
>"Followers" don't even acknowledge that he's a god, causing him to feel even more woeful and depressed, fuelling him again indirectly.
>His mere presence drives even the most strong-willed to want to go to their quarters, light some candles, listen to some poems and talk about the cruelt of life and their meaningless existance, which is coincidentally the same thing he does in his spare time.
>He doesn't know that he's already more powerfull than the other chaos gods, and has a strong dominion in the warp. His territory keeps subconsciously expanding.
>When the chaos gods attempt to reclaim their lost territory by sending out their daemons, they come back regrettably.
>Bloodthirsters come back Angsty and yell "WHATEVER, DAD!" and go to their quarters, Unclean Ones are suicidal and are the unliveliest of the bunch, Keepers of secrets come out with makeup and black eyeshadow they didn't even had, and Lords of Change come out with newly written poems that constantly state how depressed they are and keep getting crossed out and rewritten.
>The Immaterium changes as a whole, and the chaos gods are powerless to stop it, as their new partner consistently gets stronger.
>Meanwhile, in the materium, nothing changes, but all the psykers have been acting a lot depressed lately.

>Also it wouldn’t be an overt thing, it would be a shadow government, ready to take over the second before the imperium collapsed.
Yeah, that sounds like the Lion's MO...

>A government waiting in the closet, if you will.
... DAMMIT user

(I laughed)

So Malal?

>Tendies are handcrafted by secret Imperial Fist slaves attached to torture devices that will fuck them up if they dare do literally anything that isn't making tendies.
Did you forget this is the Fists? That's only going to encourage them to disobey.

Worse. Malal sees the chaos gods as a threat, and wishes to extinguish them for chaos and freedom.
This one just fills it with nothing but despair and self hate and the meaninglessness of life.

Yep. It's as if everyone considered your flawed mistake as your materpiece, shunnig the second try that you worked hard for, while also hating your guts.

Several of them DID, though it was confined to one world. Ultramar was only unique in that it was a system of planets.

>Fulgrim micromanaged a desolate rock into being an industrial powerhouse
>Horus was already the ruler of a powerful world when he met the Emperor
>Jangthai Khan has conquered his world
>Mortarion had united the humans and banished the masters to the furthest corners of the world
>Lorgar had jesus world

>jesus world
Sounds like a Deep South theme park

>Magnamar
>Enormous library, LGS on every street corner, fur faggotry is punishable by death

seems like a nice place

Basically this.
>behave or I will murder the shit out of you in front of everyone you love for decades and decades and decades
Then again, there was also a great blurb in the CSM Codex about a NL who ran a planet really well by murdering people who broke the law. Things were great for awhile except that he was chaos crazy and eventually started murdering people for filling out forms wrong or not recycling properly.

I'd imagine Dornian Curzemar is pretty comfy, though.

wait, dark angles big secret is that they are all faggots not that they were secret traitors


those mother fuckers

Didn't Magnus basically turn the Death World of Prospero into a complete paradise?

OP is asking why only Guiliman was a star lord, certainly all Primarchs could've designed their own ships and colonised their locals systems.

Because the Emperor didnt set the Primarchs to all be Guilliman. Angronmar was just meant to destroy

Yeah, a literal shining monument of beauty on a world that was more or less a blasted rock.


Then the RainFurrest M31 came to town

>they have named every born child Alpharius.
And they all look exactly alike.

Alpharius (male) have a great choice in hairstyle, shame about Alpharius (girl).

I get the impression that some of them didn't have time to do so before Emps showed up.

I think you're confused friend, there is no alpharius (girl) in that picture, there is only alpharius (alpharius)