QOTT: If you had to choose Eldrazi Temple or Expedition Map to be banned, which would you choose and why? Personally I'd ban Expedition Map. Smooths the curve into Urzatron too well and doesn't axe any other legitimate strategy.
This isn't Modern related but it is closer to Modern Relevancy then Standard or EDH to me.
I got a box of Conspiracy: Take the Crown recently and have done several drafts with less then 8 Players, I now have 6 packs left. What should I do with them? Just open them to see what I got and add stuff to my attempt at a cube, or wait and use the packs in some sort of Chaos or Mixed draft.
Angel Scott
Fuck no Storm is the funniest deck in modern
Charles Morris
just open 'em and binder the goods or play flip/rip for fun
Cameron Jackson
Nothing in them that makes me regret just opening them instead of drafting them. Something like Arcane Savant or Soveirgn's Realm are the type of thing that woulda made me regret it, all the draft specific cards were shitty.
Levi Murphy
If you didn't play tribal kithkin in modern you wouldn't be saying autistic shit like this
Grayson Richardson
kithkin is a stax deck though isnt it
Adam Jones
Do you think Master 25 not having Modern in the name means it won't be Modern oriented? Maybe a mix between Eternal and Modern?
Should I finish mono green stompy or build mono red gy/hollow one?
Blake Hughes
Decided to whip up Eldrazi Tron, with my intent being to make it as shitty as possible. I run one of each titan, colossus of Akros, steel hellkite, dumb shit like that.
I still haven't lost a game. This archetype is too goddamn good.
Map should 100% be banned. Eldrazi temple is also a problem, but more people are playing moon again, so an outright ban isn't necessary
Levi Evans
>Come to these threads thinking I'll see actualy discussion about the format
>Most of the posts are about fucking shitty tier 1000 decks
Holy shit
Xavier Scott
I think my deck choices are starting to rattle people at my LGS. What do I do.
Lucas Walker
Probably because the T1 decks have been discussed to death. What else is there to say? At least with T1000 decks you can have some actual discussion about how to make it not too shit.
Logan Hernandez
Rate my garbage tier 1000 deck Tips appreciated. I feel like more burn and less green creatures / stompy would be beneficial. The gimmick would be getting blood sun via idyllic tutor, making the shocks act like duals. Not sure what to do with that gimmick.
If you want something real gimmicky for blood sun, play the karoo lands, they're just amazing sol lands after a bloodsun.
Nathaniel Campbell
It's going to have goodies for all the formats.
Kayden Morgan
I feel pretty much confident in every matchup as mono blue turns, but Jund is a bit tricky. If I can't land a howling mine or dictate of cruphix before they resolve Liliana, I'm fighting a tough uphill battle. Any tips? My mainboard is solid but the sideboard is very much open to change: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/25-02-16-taking-turns/
Nathan Williams
Just played against pox and man is that matchup a coinflip. If he has a turn 1 thoughtseize/duress, I've pretty much lost. If I can resolve a mine or DoC before I'm empty, I pretty much win.
Angel Sanchez
Jund is a bit of a pain; aside from creature-combo like Infect/Kiln Fiend and other aggressive decks like Burn/Zoowhacker, it's probably one of the tougher matchups, just the way she goes dude. A pithing needle in the board can be a good and cheap option, and works against other difficult matchups like Druid combo which I tend to group as creature-combo these days (if you don't kill Druid, they untap and win ala Kilnfiend/Infect)
Other than that I'm saving up for 2 copies of Ancestral Vision in the sideboard (arguable for maindeck as it's worse than a Mine imho, but against Jund they are a blessing), and also a singleton copy of Day's Undoing in the sideboard. Day's Undoing is experimental but you'll notice that games vs Jund often lead with them handhating/decay etc all your Mines and slamming a threat or a Lilly, leaving you with extraneous Time Warps in hand and no engine left. Normally this fucking sucks, in this situation you jam out whatever Warps you can and you're left with a bunch of landdrops and an empty hand, but a Day's Undoing off the top can flip this around completely (might also give you Gigadrowse/Remand/Dictate to play on their turn as well)
I'm also packing a TiTi which while arguable, is a nice additional 2drop "Mine" they need to Decay/Seize etc; basically since they tend to focus on being hyperreactive to cuck all your shit, being proactive with the cards you slam can stretch their ressources. I bring in Jace VP too even though he's bolt bait, pushing for a critical mass of must-answers instead of permission spells seems to work better.
Hope this helps.
Carter Ramirez
Definitely, thanks a lot turnbro. Thoughts on this li'l fella?
Owen Myers
>tfw you realize this card isn't legal in Modern
RIP the Ghalta dream
Christian Young
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Jace Gutierrez
god damn it Infect ruins everything
Zachary Lee
>modern >not trash >le epic memedern xD >laughs in real format next you will complain water is wet
Connor Collins
>turn four supreme verdict to stabilize >pic related slaps your deck on the ass what do
Zachary Turner
Bolt the little shit once it resolved.
Benjamin Rogers
im just thankful berserk isnt legal
Christian Mitchell
>turn 4 >5 mana
Christian Anderson
exiled a simian?
Grayson Fisher
Really like everything about the card, but realistically suffers from being a creature in an otherwise creatureless deck. Giving Fatal Push a target feels bad compared to regular ol' Howling Mine, all things considered though he won't be killed as often postboard and is a neat Commander. Beautiful card though and looks hella, just has the Magus of the Moon syndrome
>yfw wotc drops modern as a supported format after arena is released so they can focus only on standard in paper and digital format
Ian Flores
alright tg how do we break pic related
Isaac Barnes
So should I run one more Serra Avenger (I already have on main board) or one more Copter on monowhite d&t?
Tyler Price
>>Most of the posts are about fucking shitty tier 1000 decks So you hate good discussion?
Kayden Davis
if you have to ask how to break a 7 mana spell, you probably should not be playing said 7 mana spell
serra
copter is bad
Jeremiah Jackson
help me fix this please
Kayden Morales
i need help, im brewing a B/R goblins deck with warren instigator, im out of ideas of goblins i could cheat in
William Brooks
Heres the list so far. tips would be nice
[spoilers] i know the sideboard is shit dont bulli too much
Noah Perez
Update, added in zo-zu for Prime time matchups
Carter Morgan
in the SB that is
Matthew Brown
drop the black, drop instigators and anything over cmc 3 add more burn
as much as it seems on paper your instigator will never damage an opponent, it will be killed or blocked by something much bigger t2 and you will be combo'ed out or they boardwipe t4 and you will be left with no hand and/or drawing 1/1s till they kill you
Wyatt Miller
8 whack list from 2 years ago might be a place to start
I mean they've been trying to kill modern for years now so I don't think I'd be too shocked.
Brody Edwards
modern was basicly created because people got angry they couldn't use any cards, nobody played vintage and 36 people played legacy, now the only formats played are standard and edh, its only that collectors are sitting on all the modern masters unopened boxes that the product sold at all and now hasbro want to sell off wotc its done, stick a fork in it
Wyatt Cox
>and now hasbro want to sell off wotc Lol, wut?
Hunter Peterson
>give some power back to standard >un-retire the landwalk and regen mechanics and evergreen them again >Acknowledge Frontier as a official format (basically nu-extended) >clean out R&D and knock MaRo from design lead
did i fix it?
Eli Phillips
>Acknowledge Frontier as a official format (basically nu-extended) Memerange: the format 2
Adam Gonzalez
Yes, please make Frontier an actual thing. Abzan Midrange and UR Ensoul were some of my favorite Standard decks to play. Bant CoCo would be awesome as well.
Wyatt Rodriguez
Frontier needs to happen eventually. If Wizards want to lower the power level of standard in order to "open up more design space" they need to acknowledge that 95% of cards printed under that design motif are going to be worthless after rotation.
Jace Cruz
Where does Frontier start from?
Angel Taylor
M15 onward i belive.
Josiah Howard
What needs to happen is a legacy replacement. I would love to see a format with the modern border but including ancillary sets. Just a format of cards printed 2003 and beyond.
Owen Sanders
Frontier starts with M15, when the boarders changed to the curved bottom and the holo-stamped rates. Great starting point, in my opinion.
MaRo has gone on record as saying that if they ever made a Frontier-like format, it would start at Origins, when they really started lowering the power of Standard sets as a whole and they don't have to deal with "troublesome" cards like Seige Rhino, Collected Company and fetchlands.
Noah Edwards
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Christian Adams
Wotc is retarded, but not that retarded. They've openly acknowledged that Modern is extremely popular. As long as Modern Masters rakes in the shekels, they'll support it. Modern is played a lot. Alpha Investments conspiracy theory. Frontier does not need to happen, ever. Wotc can barely support the formats it has now.
Jordan Collins
nah, fetchlands is stilla problem. It should start at Origins.
Juan Phillips
>Alpha Investments conspiracy theory I just want to say that I think anyone who makes youtube videos about Magic, that are not deck techs/games/drafts, should do us a favir and set themselves on fire.
Gabriel Cox
>MagicManSam >lore and story channels >Nizzahon top 10 lists >Judge's Corner >History channels
maybe you should set yourself on fire
Isaac Torres
>fetchlands is stilla problem Not anymore
You are now realizing that no-fun hate cards serve an important purpose.
Dylan Mitchell
>art, lore and history that no one cares about >A judge series that you shouldn't care about if you READ THE FUCKING RULES At least Nizzahon plays games, but top ten lists are cancer.
Kevin Sanchez
Judge's Corner is still a thing? I thought they stopped a long time ago.
Jayden Nelson
>Chalice of the Void serves an important purpose
Grayson Wilson
Yes.
James Barnes
nobody cares about you
John Robinson
only thing going on in the judges corner is fucking children
Hudson Gomez
No, it doesn't. It's a thorn in the side of every format it's legal in.
Jonathan Kelly
>every format brainstorm baby detected. What's wrong, no idea how to play when your broken card is gone?
Liam Johnson
Yes, it does. Don't play a deck that doesn't fold to it and you won't have a problem. That some people hate it tells me that it's doing exactly what it should be doing.
Gavin Allen
>Don't play a deck that folds to it and you won't have a problem Fixed. I swear I'm not drunk.
Cameron Carter
Honestly I want to play eldrazi tron just because chalice of the void is so brutal.
Matthew Adams
is Eldrazi & Taxes still the most popular DnT variant in modern?
Bentley Turner
Humans has a similar sort of game plan.
Connor Mitchell
About equally popular to thalia and taxes.
Asher Smith
You're thinking of the wrong card, user
Jayden Myers
ayy lmao Is there even a deck in Modern than runs Thorn of Amethyst?
Kayden Ross
>opponent has mage on path for forever >wait patiently while i fish for a second displacer >bait a block for mage to see if i can fish a path out of his hand >it works >tries to path my displacer >vial in another displacer, blink the other displacer >he spellquellers his own path >attacks for whatever, i blink pontiff for -1s >my turn >swing all >he blocks with that spellqueller >blink the creature he blocked >blink pontiff for +1/+1 >10 damage for exactsies
it's just social engineering. narrowing the field of possible matchups makes it easier to metagame.
Jeremiah Nelson
>Just play a deck that mainboards 4 Ensnaring Bridge and 4 Dismember! Why was Eldrazi winter even a thing lmao
Ian Nguyen
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Isaac Jenkins
Maybe if you're a professional player whose job it is to play magic, and you have time to get good with multiple decks as the meta changes. With a field so wide right now, you'll be rewarded on your knowledge with your own deck more than anything, and you'll get more practice in with a deck you like. I'd hate to be a bad dredge player if the meta shifts towards more graveyard hate any time. I do agree on his assessment on eldrazi tron though, deck had nothing but MTGO league results for months and people over rated it massively.
Jordan Bennett
>no fun allowed Alpha Investments is the best Youtube channel. Not just magic related, the best all around.
James Martin
So right now the best sleeves are Dragon Shield Matte Art, right? Do you think their non-art line will be updated as well? Because I'd like to get the Copper ones, I don't like the Art ones that released in January,
If only old KMC were recognizable from the new ones.
Nicholas Powell
Out of those 2, Serra Avenger. You could also consider Selfless Spirit as a 2 Flying drop
Samuel Ortiz
Lately Mono White version has been getting better positioned.
Oliver Harris
I built a uw dnt list and I've been loving the flickering and sideboard tech at my lgs. Herkylls recall is so much fun to use against all the people who play lantern here.
Logan Rogers
I feel like saying it's the best is hyperbole, but I like the concept from a business standpoint. This dude is working the market, I gotta give him credit.
Nathaniel Davis
>Dude these Rivals of Ixalan boxes are full of money! Hahaha. Sure thing, Rudy.
Samuel Ward
I'm sure from a bulk opening perspective it's profitable but prices fall off so soon after release.
Nathan Robinson
>UWx Hurloon
what?
Dylan Butler
oh wow
so the modern community is "inbred" because they're playing what they want to instead of playing the same 4 decks
I see now
Dominic Bennett
This is the thread for discussing the Modern format of Magic. Several of the cards in your deck are not modern legal. I'm all for brewing shitty decks and helping them be less shitty, but please educate yourself on the bare minimum criteria for a modern deck before asking for advice on how to improve one.